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Abohboy:
Not sure what happened there what I was saying is that Benin stopped trading with England fro about 30-40 years and England became angry by how they had stopped trade, so they started sending reporters to Benin to demonise the place and make it look barbaric and evil all in the name of imperialism no such reports of human sacrifice had come before then

source?

Abohboy:
Do Turkish people consider themselves European. I’m not really sure if you can claim turkey as European history but

Constantinople was a European City........look it up

Abohboy:
But somehow they couldn’t provide any photo evidence of this pit or where exactly it was located physically, for some reason they just looked at the bodies and left it there but somehow without taking any pictures or writing down any measurements they came to the conclusion that there were 41 female women yep that totally sounds believable and is very accurate and not just pure speculation.

show me photographic evidence of Benin's street lamps

Abohboy:
Show me the Benin scriptures and stop dodging

https://academic.oup.com/afraf/article-abstract/84/334/53/23191?redirectedFrom=fulltext

kabe1:
Are these still in service?

I thought the army was going to retire them after placing an order for the MI-28NE?


Of the 42 units of MI-28NE ordered how many have been delivered?

Why would they retire modern superhinds?

Lurker4Long:
Is that a Truvelo rifle I see? Can't be. Kabe said South Africans only make armoured vehicles. Kabe also said Nigeria won't buy from SA.

It fvcking heavy I can tell you that

Abohboy:
No such things as Benin scriptures was presented by the British no single artefact in Benin shows human sacrifice also the evidence said most were executed criminals. And 41 bodies over an over 400 year period for criminals ain’t that bad. I don’t believe in the human sacrifice stuff because most customs were represented in their artefacts. Find me the Benin scriptures you speak of first.

- Uhm they literally found a sacrificial pit!!

mtisTheQubit:
jl115 am not that good in history so please i beg,tell me alittle bit about your people the boers..where did they come from coz definitely they don't look black..were they hunters or gathers or did they get lost an landed in the south tip of Africa..
waiting...

Boer history is pretty well documented bru just google it.

Abohboy:
Which major modern European societies had low crime and murder like at similar time periods to Benin empire not the Greeks

why cant i choose the Greeks

but anyway Constantinople was probably the most impressive city in European history, probably even the world

Abohboy:
I don’t want to blame the failings of my people on the whitey but you cannot lie thst the whitey stalled our development, and used religion as a tool to keep us in mental servitude and in top of that European explorers at the time documented how much little crime, robbery, murder etc. We’re going on at the time not only in Benin kingdom but also in the Asante kingdom as well as Oyo empire.

Maybe it did maybe it didn't but I don't care about what ifs.....only facts!! and the fact is most advancements came to Africa thanks to the West

Some African societies had low crime and murder......just like there were African societies were the opposite was true! just like in Europe

Abohboy:
Many you have consistently mentioned one also you haven’t provided evidence British missionaries is not evidence because they were angry at Benin for stopping trade with them which is why they labeled them as cannibals, murderers, savages, etc shall I go on

What?

Abohboy:
No we didn’t but the point is we were developed to a high standard before they came and things liek the slave trade, constant attack from the British and colonisation stalled our industriousness

Slave trade existed in Africa centuries before colonisation and no one disputed that there weren't advanced civilisations in Africa.......

Abohboy:
Benin had no form of writing until the British came so stfu with your lies this is actually funny Benin scripture huh. They never had any form of writing this benin bronzes was their form of marking history so stop lying human sacrifices was British propaganda created to demonise African empires

SMH!! scripture doesn't necessary mean written words.......

tylann:
Thanks for that
The guy resorted to insults when he couldn't counter facts

the Mfecane isn't an insult but a historical fact............you sound like some of those Apartheid deniers we have in SA

Abohboy:
We’re talking about the americas not africa dumbass

OMG you are ret@rded!!

Abohboy:
Only became documented by the British when they wanted to take over Benin as a colony before then no Portuguese or Dutch explorer mentioned anything the British had a habit of blacklisting and demonising Africans before taking over

It was mentioned by Benin scripture not by the British........also there is physical evidence of human sacrifice

gallivant:
I know, dont ruin it with blanket statements like all Africans were barbaric; that's just West Africans and Zulus. Loving the debate though.

I said all races have had barbaric history.............I never said all Africans were barbaric..........read before making false statements

Abohboy:
I don’t blame everything but look at what you guys did to Patrice lumumba, Thomas sankara, supporting civil wars in Africa including the biafra civil war, the coups you supported against good leaders like Kwame Nkrumah and shagari, your evils have been going since the slave trade and till today. The one agenda of the whitey has been to stall development in Africa.

I’m not saying all genocides etc are caused by the whites and I’m not saying it didn’t happen. But the scale it is happening at today can only be attributed to the introduction of western customs and civilization to Africa. Robbery and murder were a lot less rampant within Africa especially west Africa before they came with civilization this is very clear and evident by any mentions of scholars at the time who visited these great African empires.

case and point

gallivant:
Yo chill out.

Im chilled boet having a good debate

mtisTheQubit:
say what!

Im talking about Ahoboy who blames the genocide rape and murder in Africa happening today on White people alone...........I never denied colonisation was an evil practise but to blame everything bad happening on our continent today on colonisation instead of our own leaders is ridicules and backwords

Kazikazi:
Africans were barbaric and are still barbaric today.
All these stories of ritual killings tells you how some folks are shitholes and barbaric

All races are barbaric or have barbaric history.........that's human nature

Kazikazi:
Can you elaborate more on this shithole story about human sacrifices

You should know.........it's pretty prevalent even today in Tanzania

mtisTheQubit:
The problem with you jl115 is that you are not patient ...

That is entirely true bru!!........won't deny it!

Abohboy:
You haven’t brought facts either you just bring quotes I also brought quotes of Dutch and Portuguese explorers who went there but you don’t believe them. It is called selective acceptance. You accept what you want and leave the rest I can post the pictures again. The society was conducted in such a way that there was no need for doors not because they didn’t know what they were or how t9 use them but because there was so little crime and robbery in the area. They had long straight roads, tall walls and metal poles to light the streets. They had very shiny houses and all the roads were very clean these are accounts from the 1400s - 1600s

I brought actual citations from reputable news outlets......I also posted several sources on the post that got me banned.

And FYI I never denied Africa didn't have extremely advanced societies like the Benin kingdom or Zimbabwean kingdom.

What im saying is Africa had slavery, murder, genocide, rape ect ect long before the colonisers came............YOU have a victim mentality and want to blame the failings of your own people on the Whitey to make yourself feel better.

Abohboy:
Exactly some and who’s to say that these some participated in the slave trade, majority of berbers are Arabic not black so the point still stands about Africans and they are predominantly Muslims. Find me a society of Africans who practiced traditional beliefs who were as barbaric and misogynistic as the European societies

Your precious Benin kingdom for one practised slavery............must I name more? because I can

Also there were many barbaric African societies........the Mfecane is a great example of that!!

Abohboy:
Nobody had anything of the things you listed until the 20th century. England didn’t have piped sewage systems until the 1930s. Internet 1990s and Africans helped to develop that, piped sewage systems they had pipes which would get rid of poop in each community. Tv who really had that until the 1950s. So yes do go on

And? did Africans invent there own Electricity, Internet, Tarmac and Tv... ...Colonisation in Africa lasted till the 1960s

Abohboy:
Then where did you get the accounts of human sacrifice, the Portuguese and Dutch never mentioned such. And Benin city had oil street lamps whether you want to accept it or not were not talking electric. We are talking about oil street KAMO and the first one was built in Benin in the 1500s

From Benin scripture........they worshiped the God of Iron

Abohboy:
Those numbers are likely highly inflated but nobody is denying the slave trade there was a slave trade but there were also Africans in The americas before there were Europeans there.

You said there was no slavery in Africa before Europeans came to Africa?

mtisTheQubit:
but someone today denied that ths stuff never happened..that it was all lies ..

At first Abohboy denies Africans ever traded slaves......yet now he even states African had white slave(this is true btw)

mtisTheQubit:
hi boss ..can you explain ths..
"Anthony Johnson, held as an indentured servant in 1621, he earned his freedom after several years, and was granted land by the colony"
To me it don't make sense to call him the first slave owner while he himself was in a way a slave

Kikuyu1 is busy having his conspiracy theory fetishes again!! just ignore him!!

Abohboy:
Jln115 is weirdly quiet and for once I actually believe in one of your conspiracies which is now a fact. A lot of propaganda was used by whites to label the blacks badly. We were never extremely violent, we never did human sacrifice we were highly spiritual people

I was banned that's why.........Secondly you are believing in a dude that claims the Earth is flat, Nazis were black, reptilians and believes in Unicorns.

And yes human sacrifice in Africa is very well documented as well in ancient Benin

kikuyu1:
YOU'VE forgotten ALREADY!? There was no mfecane wherein Shakas' empire building supposedly killed 2 mn Africans .
Firstly that would've been 50% of the entire population at the time. Here's an academic breakdown of that myth.


[url][/https://www.jstor.org/stable/182353?seq=1]



It's complete BS! Like the empty land myth: they say when the Dutch landed in Cape Town in 1652 the whole land was empty. When you ask why then were they in conflict with the Khoi Khoi a mere DECADE after their arrival you hear crickets!

LOL!!! You do realise the Mfecane can be proven by Zulu scripture?? Nothing to do with the British!! ..............Also your own source doesn't deny that the Mfecane didn't happen, it simply disputes what triggered it!! nice try though !