₦airaland Forum

Austine1213:
TANZANIA

kikuyu1:
Do you have a source? The WB Human Capital Index was first prepared in 2018 using a measure of child survival,education qty and qly and general health to gauge the potential productivity of a citizen. We were joint first with Algeria while you guys were at Tz levels.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Capital_Index

Kazikazi:
Give me a link which show SA is at top 20 in infrastructure.

mtisTheQubit:
so in terms of development, which continent do you belong to?

Kazikazi:
SA is just ordinary middle class economy. Its still a work in progress.Truth be told,nothing is special

mtisTheQubit:
You mean south Africa is not africa...dang it an i thought I was good in geography

TayserMahri:
Btw, ive been chatting with a southie who wants to move to Kenya. Says everything so fvcked up in SA>

rvp20182:
For a South African I will ignore that...you don't want to start dicing your country..I mean you're the only fools attacking refugees for taking your jobs..I mean Somalis..who does that.Youre like the bottom in your own country after whites, Asians and Africa refugees.

rvp20182:
South Africa has slums with muddy roads...it not a developed nation.It stuck in a middle class trap..half developed.

rvp20182:
There is no beef.It my long considered opinion that all things considered Kenya will catch up with South Africa in 15yrs or less. Medium term South Africa is in serious problems.. politically, economically and even socially.

rvp20182:
I am on my phone but some things we have overtaken South Africa include avacados and dairy industry hahaha tech sector South Africa are also seeing dust just like in basic education

morpheus24:
"Normally I would rebut but the initial point was to let you know that you are not the first Afrikaaner I have encountered or debated with and probably wont be the last."


"You are comfortable in Africa, You have no[b]solidarity[/b] with the continent. There's a difference. If you did you would have not been isolationist during all the independence revolutions in Africa. To be anti-black is to be Anti-African.



Yet their entire history has been anti-African and solely based on the homeland and the expansion of the "chosen" people, something inspired by their Calvanist dutch religion, which again emanates from Europe and European conquest.





I have spoken in fact have debated with many of them. I would point out that the ones I debate with tend to be more of British or of other European ancestry versus your Afrikaaner kind. The former are little bit more open minded in general.



"It is an excellent read that contrasts most other South African historical narratives I have read.[b] It is quite blunt and unapologetic.[/b]compared to other versions I have read.

morpheus24:
This is why you need to read.



I will refer you to all my past posts if you need evidence as regards my knowledge base. They go way back.




Good now we have established what you know we can debate this further.

The escapade in Angola was a front for regional influence by SA in the name of capitalism and in an effort to impede communism from infiltrating into the SA controlled "South West Africa"/ Namibia today, sold to the South African public as a fight against communism when in fact was a proxy war for Western powers aligned with the nationalist government which supposedly had a laisse affair approach with the rest of the continent.




one persons assertion against a multitude of evidence.



You are skeptical but open minded at the same time. Hmmm?

He is very blunt in his depictions, he doesn't sugar coat specifics regarding all sides that contributed to the history of South Africa including the so called Boers.


Of course he would, wouldn't he. Its your history. I refer you to the above statement for a clearer understanding, read the book!

morpheus24:
1. I never said anything about Africa being peaceful. Your assumption.

2. As far as conquest well that's the story they tell you when you go to your Dutch reformist Churches on Sundays. Which people on earth do you know that would willing admit their atrocities to their offspring?

3. The reason nobody chased the Afrikaner away was because they were an extension of a "European"/Western power that dominated the region not because they were "Afrikaner". The fight was not a fair one.



1.Don't be mad now my friend, my knowledge of South and Southern African in general goes way past just debates or interviews.

2. In suggesting that you read more, the idea is to get you to a better grasp of African history in particular. When I mentioned Angola, you should have understood the reference immediately but you didn't.





I can see you are bruised at this assertion. The conclusion is based on fact and not feelings. Afrikaners/Boers and by extension all White South Africans are an extension of European conquest. They have and will always be that. You can continue to assert your African-ness that's your prerogative. The evidence however is profound and contrary and I have enumerated some points for all to see.


PS I would suggest to all a very good book on South African history. It is an excellent read that contrasts most other South African historical narratives I have read. It is quite blunt and unapologetic. "The history of South Africa" by Eric Walker.

DictatorZAR1:
Let it be because last time I checked you were one of those starting e wars here. Don't act like you're a saint