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bosa1:As Mabel had said , salvation Is the first step. If he and also you are born again already, then it's very sweet to deal with. Satan is terrified by your awareness of authority in christ. Simply rebuke the spirit of fear from him. Command it with authority. If you're born again , look into his eyes while you make the command if possible. The devil will leave him. |
mabell:Mabel ,God bless for your response. |
Enigma:I know if you haven't brought CEC or oyakhilome into a thread , your body will not rest. We don't use such utterance in CEC . It's a teaching church brodo. |
nlMediator:Far from it. It's Yoruba thing. And if you observed , it's mostly among the yorubas. It has nothing to do with the emergence of new churches. It started in the 1940s. The emergence of the White garment churches who had supernatural manifestations and miracles. Nominal christians began to leave the old churches to join the miraculous churches. "the God of orimolade" etc. As a child in celestial church as far back as the 70s I used to hear such sayings as "Olorun Oschoffa " (God of oschoffa) so let's not use everything to attack innocent men Of God. It is not them that make such claim but the followers. It's a Yoruba thing. |
nlMediator:There can only be an interpretation for scriptures. Stop privatising interpretations. 2 Peter 1:20 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. . But what the copying preacher should not do is deny that he received it from the other preacher or indicate that he got it some other way. Also, he should not see reference to the fact that somebody preached the message earlier as a claim that the message could only have originated in a certain country.I still maintain that this "copy" utterance is carnal. Do you copy the word of God? . There is difference between Inspiration and copy. I can be influenced and inspired by another man. In different ways. If you teach truth and it agrees with my heart . I accept based on the word. Not because Mr A says so. But because the word says so. Anybody can quote truth from scriptures . I will take it because it is in the scriptures like the bereans. For that I don't need to quote a man. But if I'm quoting a man teaching. Or principles, nuggets ,quotes etc . Of course courtesy demands we make references to such sources. And I do where applicable. . |
. . Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice (Psalm 141:2). Paul prayed a beautiful prayer for the saints at Ephesus, making mention of how he bowed his knees in prayer: “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named…” (Ephesians 3:14-15). There are certain things you do at times of communion with the Father that are spiritual acts of worship, and tend to make your prayer much more effective. For example, when you bow your knees and lift your hands to the Lord in prayer; it’s a demonstration of deep spiritual truth revealed to us in God’s Word. Exodus 17 tells us the story of how Joshua led Israel to battle against the Amalekites at Rephidim. The Bible specifically revealed to us that the course of the battle was determined – not by the fierceness of the warlords – but outside the battle ground; on the mountain where Moses lifted up his hands: “And it came pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed: and when let down his hand, Amalek prevailed” (Exodus 17:11). When Aaron and Hur discovered this “secret” and observed that Moses’ hands had become heavy, therefore going down, they took a stone, placed it under him, so he could sit down. Then, the Bible says Aaron and Hur held up his hands, one on either side. Thus, Moses’ hands were steady until the going down of the sun, until Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword (Exodus 17:12-13). There’s something powerful in the lifting up of our hands unto the Lord in prayer and in worship. As your hands are lifted up in the presence of the Lord during prayer, and you speak forth words of praise and worship to Him, extolling His majesty, you’re sending incense of a sweet-smelling savour unto heaven. Learn to do this often. As you bow your knees to the Lord in prayer, let your hands go up as well. This has nothing to do whether or not you feel like it; do it because the Word says so. 1 Timothy 2:8 says “I will therefore that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.” The Apostle Paul was referring to spiritual worship, where you extol the king and glorify His holy Name with your hands lifted high! The more you do this, praying intensely from your spirit, the easier it’ll be for you to make contact with God’s divine flow, making your life an outflow of the miraculous. Prayer Dear Father, I lift my hands to you today in holiness, to bless and adore you for your glory, majesty and grace! Thank you for the great love wherewith you’ve loved me, and thank you for the glorious life you’ve given me in Christ Jesus. I rejoice in you today, knowing that you’re the glory of my life and the solid rock on which I stand, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. Further Study Psalms 134:2 Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the LORD. Lamentations 3:41 Let us lift up our heart with our hands unto God in the heavens. |
. . .But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:23-24). Exodus chapter 20 reveals the account of the children of Israel, asking that God should speak to them directly, instead of through Moses. But when God eventfully showed up at Mount Sinai, it burnt with flames. There was lightening and thundering and the children of Israel, terrified, drew backwards and cried to Moses saying: “…speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die” (Exodus 20:19). Now, in spite of all these terrifying acts that brought the fear of Jehovah into the hearts of the Israelites, they still broke His law, and didn’t obey His commandments. So God introduced a new principle; the love-principle. The Bible says He commended his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, He sent Jesus to die for us (Romans 5: . We weren’t the ones that called out to God to send Jesus to come die for us and save us from our sins. Our salvation was God’s idea; He was the One who reached out to us with the message of His love and reconciled us to Himself: “And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation” (2 Corinthians 5:18). In John 3:16, the Bible says “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 15:13 also tells us: “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” This is exactly what God did for us by sending Jesus to die for the sins of the whole world.As a Christian, you’re greatly loved of God, and His love has been shed abroad in your heart by the Holy Spirit who lives in you (Romans 5:5). That’s means you’ve become an ambassador of His love; you’re to love those around you with the same kind of love God demonstrated towards us. This kind of love goes beyond the barriers of every wrong; it’s unfeigned, unconditional and without limits. Prayer Dear heavenly Father, thank you for the love you demonstrated by sending Jesus as a propitiation of the sins of the whole world. This same love is shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, your love flows out freely and genuinely through me today, to my world, in Jesus Name. Amen. Further Study John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 1 John 4:10-13 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. |
@NLmediator 6. Never said that any truth originated from America. But if you study the law of gravity or the law of relativity and do not acknowledge Newton or Einstein, after reading them and getting the ideas from them, you’ll be treated as an academic fraud.True Claiming that thVery funny post. Who is claiming originality. Does Gods word have copyrights. When I quote pastor chris article ,I always acknowledge the source. And when I quote bible ,I didn't claim to write it, I acknowledge the book. Wetin remain? I’m completely surprised that you’re trying to claim that God actually revealed these truths to you when you clearly got them from others. Nothing wrong in learning from others – I do that all the time - but my quarrel is pretending this knowledge either originated from you or is peculiar to you when you *know* for sure that’s not true. I consider that dishonest.Where did i make these funny and petty claim of yours? Somebody must be missing something here. And Which preacher I'm I copying?. ![]() |
nuella2:No mind the guy. I didnt read your post early enough , I wouldn't have bothered responding. You've said it all. I remembered in some of those crusades with Pastor chris, even when some of us are sent to fish out those who have been healed. We still need to pass through the medicals , who will further scrutinise them and ask them to do what they couldn't do before now. Before we finally get clearance to take them to senior pastors for final stage testimony. |
jbx:You be lie lie. The pastors only take names of those who testify to have been healed. Naturally, prayers are made generally. And a call would be made for those who recieve a healing to come forward. Except you came forward in pretence. So as to recieve extra prayers . Some people do that , and we send them back to wait for their healing if we discover such deception. |
nuella2:I agree , but thats a different issue. But when someone says it is unscriptural for a minister to aswer to "man of God" I wonder which scripture he is referring to. That's my issue with the op. |
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Ephesians 6:12). It’s common in our day to find some believers who spend so much of their time praying against perceived human enemies in their lives. This is an error borne out of their ignorance of the Scriptures. The opening scripture says “We wrestle not against flesh and blood,” meaning that the real adversary is not flesh and blood, and therefore couldn’t be any man. Someone may hate and despise you but he’s not your enemy. Your real adversary is the devil and his spiritual cohorts of “principalities,” “powers,” “rulers of the darkness of this world,” and “spiritual wickedness in high places” (Ephesians 6:12); these are not flesh and blood. The trick of the devil is to make people think fellow men are their adversaries and so divert attention from himself. So while they’re busy at war with their neighbours or the government, or even with fellow brothers and sisters in the church, the devil runs rampage – causing havoc all around the world. But we’re smarter than that! The Bible says we’re not ignorant of his devices; his wiles, crafty schemes and stratagems (2 Corinthians 2:11). James 4:7 says “…Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” Notice it didn’t say resist your fellow man or your fellow brothers and sisters. Rather you’re to love them and do them good, and pray for them even those who despitefully use you, and persecute you (Matthew 5:44). Why? Because they’re not the enemy! The arch-enemy of the believer is satan. He’s the accuser of the brethren, but he’s a defeated foe: “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night” (Revelation 12;10). So you have authority to stop him, and keep him under your feet where he belongs. Prayer Dear heavenly Father, I give you thanks for the opportunity to be blessed by your precious Word today. I’m not ignorant of satan’s devices and refuse to fall prey to them. I keep satan and the cohorts of hell under my feet, where they belong, in Jesus’ mighty Name. Amen. Further Study 1 Peter 5:8-9 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 2 Corinthians 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. |
Sweetnecta:I'm still trying to get the head and tail of your post. ![]() . i know you are preaching prosperity gospel. wealthiest man on earth today is not a christian. some of the poorest countries on earth practice christianity.I preach Jesus dude. ![]() |
It's a futile effort. Jesus had declared Matthew 16:18 I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. But I observed you keep saying "sons of benia. Do you mean sons of belial? |
nlMediator:Read the bible for yourself dear. Ministers were called , man of God , prophet , teacher, master. Etc. Jesus himself was called master , by people of his time . Because that was the way to address leaders. I don't know why you guys just have bad belle for ministers . The fact that paul and Peter address each other by name doesn't mean they were addresses by their followers likewise. Theres difference. Paul himself taught many times about respect for leaders. 1 Thessalonians 5:12-13 12 Dear brothers, honor the officers of your church who work hard among you and warn you against all that is wrong. 13 Think highly of them and give them your wholehearted love because they are straining to help you. And remember, no quarreling among yourselves. Resorting to ‘you were not there in the Bible days to know what happened’ is a cheap ploy often employed when it’s convenient and quickly discarded when it is not. That is, you start demanding for chapter and verse when it is in your interest and when it’s not, you ask us to accept or be bound by a practice not in the Bible because it “must” have been so. Interesting.This long Tory. Question, is it wrong to call ministers men of God? Answer = no it is scriptural to call them so. Case closed. I agree with you about critics and “I’m better than you” attitude. But you need to look at the mirror more often because it applies readily to you. An example is your constant reference to “lesser truth” or that churches are operating at the level of their understanding, in a way that drips of “I’m better than you.”That's your personal bias. I never said I knew more than any person. But I'm glad to share what I know. Of a truth different ministers function at different levels of understanding. That's true. Paul obviously had deeper revelations than Peter and co. It's not a compettition. Peter himself acknowledged it. BTW, that’s part of why I point out when you’re copying the teachings of American pastors, not because I want to show America is competing with Nigeria.That is carnal of you to use such language. Can you copy truth. Truth is truth . Did they write their own bible? We believe and teach what the bible say. Was paul an American ? Or John? . Even smith wiggles worth known as apostle of faith is not an amerrican. Why over exalting American preachers. I think you still have what they call the slave mentality. (not an insult but observation). Those who believe nothing good is in africa. I quote scritptures and not american man dear. Point being that you can’t go about “oppressing” others with what you copied or establishing your “specialness “with something you know is available outside your circles. That may be good for marketing, but something about it is not right.Let who has been "oppressed" by me make that complain. |
nlMediator:You've just answered yourself. How about those that have faith in the church? If their giving multiplied all the time, wouldn't they all be richer than Carlos Slim by now?the wealth of a christian is not by what he has aqcuired . A christian is a channel of blessing to his world. It is carnal to quantify blessing by THINGS. |
nlMediator:What are we saying , when people give, is it not for their own good?. Principles are beyond testaments and dispensations. It is universal. Are you saying giving doesn't work? |
The prophet was told to migrate to Zarephat for his own sustenance, and not to go sustain the widow as you claimedThat's what it appears to be physically but a man that has understanding of spiritual laws knows it's the other way. When we pray to God for example , are we helping him? We help ourselves . Nesides,When God says he has commanded the widow, that doesn't mean she heard any voice. It was a prophetic utterance just like saying "I have ordained her" to feed you. But the woman physically was broke. She was about to die. But the blessing lies with the manor God. A man of God carries anointing to prosper. She had to connect to the anointing by ministring to him with the food. If she had not done that , she would have died even though she had been ordained to feed him. She must connect to "the prophets reward" and that's what he made her do. He wasn't selfish , he had to make her operate spiritual law. What she gave was a lesser blessing, what she received was a greater blessing. Why was paul rejoicing for the things the philipians sent . He rejoiced not because he was excited at their gift, but he was excited about what they will recieve from him. Who is helping who? The anointed man carries the blessing. When you give him, you position yourself to recieve period. |
God takes care of the man of God, because of his ministry. He sent the bird to feed him he also sent an angel to feed him another time. He could have done it. |
nlMediator:Is there a front view mirror in a car? . There is only one mirror . Na mirror. ![]() I think what he meant is that you can't drive for long.Let him be the one to say that, he had used a wrong illustration. I only pointed it out. |
nlMediator:I don't see any point of argument here. A minister criticises another for being called MAN OF GOD . And I said it is not unscriptural. It is left for individuals what they want to be called. Either it is "brother" hagin o or "pastor" chris or "prophet"tb or "bishop"td jakes. You were not there to know what brethren call the early apostles. They must have addressed them according to their offices. Paul many times emphasised his apostleship . In Jesus days , teachers were called. Rabbi, master, etc. Jesus also was addressed as master many times. I don't know know why people are just on the cases of servants of God for condemnation. Is that a message? Let's leave off petty matters. “Pastors nowadays don’t answer ministers of God, they now answer ‘Men of God’, which is not right at all.Is there any place in the bible where people addressed them as "minister" of God?. What we have in the bible is "man of God" .And the funny thing here is that the person criticising MOG here himself is addressed as "BISHOP" what contradiction? The issue with critics is the idea of "I am better than others" yet they don't see the hypocrisy . |
ogajim:so when you use the mirror while switching lanes, does your car still continue going forward or you have to stop each time you look at your mirror? Talk. . . |
Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. . . |
. . ,But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth… (Luke 5:24). Even though He was the Son of God, the Lord Jesus in the days of His earthly ministry often referred to Himself as the Son of Man. Some have wondered how He could be both at the same the time. The explanation for this is simple: He was the Son of God in the sense that He was born of God’s Word; He was the Word of God made flesh: “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth” (John 1:14). He called Himself the Son of Man because He came as man’s legal representative. He came to represent man to God, such that whatever judgment God placed on Jesus on account of men’s sins sufficed for the salvation of all men: “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed” (Isaiah 53:4-5). Jesus was man’s legal representative and He knew this about Himself; that’s why He called Himself the Son of Man. He was bold to confess and declare it before God, angels and devils. He wanted everyone to know He was man’s substitute. That’s why when He suffered and died on the Cross, we suffered and died with Him, and when He was buried, we were buried with Him. He suffered and died for our sins, as our substitute, so that we could be free. When God raised Him up, we were raised up together with Him. When He ascended into the presence of God, we were brought into the presence of God where we couldn’t have entered by ourselves. Now 1 John 4:17 says “…as He is, so are we in this world.” That means the life, the glory and the name He now has belongs to us. This is the reason the Apostle Paul admonished us in Colossians 3:17 to do all things in the Name of Jesus. So today, we live in the Name of Jesus. When we pray to God, we do in the Name of Jesus. And when you live your life in the Name of Jesus; no sickness or disease can take a hold of your body; and no demon can destroy your life. This is the victory of Christianity! Confession I live in absolute victory over sickness, disease and poverty today and always! No weapon of darkness fashioned against me shall ever prosper, because I live in the Name of Jesus! I’ve been delivered from sin, sickness and death, and catapulted into God’s realm of abundant life where I reign victoriously with Christ, everyday, in Jesus’ Name. Further Study Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; - pastor chris |
@patsey @ Joagbaje: Your thought process is, in my estimate, so twisted that engaging with you would apparently tantamount to flogging a dead horse. You need a sound, and definitely not the crooked, theological education which the likes of you have, at your perils, been subjected to.At least I contributed meaningfully. But what is your own contribution? Nothing but criticism . A critic is not a builder. He only disturb those doing something. |
The wicked will end up in the lake of fire which was prepared for Satan and his followers. |
nlMediator:1 Timothy 6:11 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 1 Samuel 2:27 And there came a man of God unto Eli, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord. . 2 Kings 1:11 11 Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly. 2 Timothy 3:17 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. You should know that we don't usually use such term in CEC . But nothing is wrong with those who use it. And I don't think anyone has ever said it is a taboo to address a MOG as pastor "John" or pastor "chris" |
smaller:There is no discrimination in heaven. There is no special heaven for police or teacher. If a policeman is born again , why not? . Besides , achrisian doesn't need to try and make heaven. It's a lesser truth. If you're born again you're born from above. |
Explain yourself. |
Heberew Language ?But languages don't matter in heaven. God communicates spiritually , and in the realm of the spirit . We have unity of communication. Languages are for earthly realm. Besides languages came for a particular reason. The world once had only one language. |
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. We weren’t the ones that called out to God to send Jesus to come die for us and save us from our sins. Our salvation was God’s idea; He was the One who reached out to us with the message of His love and reconciled us to Himself:
e law of relativity is the truth regardless of who says it will not absolve you. Worse still, when you pretend that you discovered the truth by reading the bible when there is every indication you borrowed it from known authors.