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dhope:
I recently overheard a discussion and was baffled to know if it could be true. my curiosity is borne out of desire to get more understanding and enlightenment on behavior of human spirit. the argument was that " Can someone spirit be summoned consistently in darkness world such as coven to join and operate with other without that person having a knowledge of being there?
pls drop ur view if u have understanding of this.

daryoor:
with demon u will know but witch craft, u might not know

Some may know. Some may not know. They may have dreams that reveals such signs but if they are not enlightened they may not know . someone can have spirit of witchcraft and not necessarily be a witch. Demon and witcraft spirit can use the body of someone as a host in a family to afflict others. yet the person may not know.

Desyner:
I suspect she is being interpreted out of context.

Thats true. it happens a lot here. by the time you get the real story many insults would have passed under the bridge.

GeneralShepherd:
So you believe this with zero proof? No wonder you are a Christian

I believe .She has proof . We communicated ,She'workrs in institution all the way from America.

brokewaist:
I am preparing a short charge and this was extremely edifying and helpful. The lord continue to grant you understanding in the light of his word.

Thank you so much .

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you brother, sir.
That was very kind of you.
For the record, what we agree on, is a lot more, than what we might disagree on, in posts.

Nice to hear that o

Empiree:
That doesnt mean you had to edit my post

As much as i don’t agree with muttleylaff post . But he didn’t do wrong . It’s allowed to quote from a post the area of your interest or concern . He doesn’t have to quote entire post just as you are not under obligation to quote entire chapter of the Bible but the verse or the line of your interest

Goshen360:
I knew the boss will show up. Welcome sir.

You can use all kinds of technical names to deceive folks that's you that we know.

That’s not nice

What does Hebrews 10vs8 says....notice things mentioned there including SIN OFFERINGS.

Go ahead

Seearch , you will see that The condemnation of the law is only in the area of Salvation i.e justification

That’s The context of the scripture you quote .

Hebrews 10:10 (KJV)
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

It was contrasting offerings of animal for sin with offering of jesus . Animal offering will only cover din but Jesus blood wipes away

Goshen360:
. We don't give OFFERINGS no more today in the church BECAUSE CHRIST ALREADY FULFILLED THE MEANINGS OF OFFERINGS.

Wrong. Tithes , Offering , sacrifices are eternal principles . Jesus only fulfilled SIN offering .

He didn’t fulfill your thanksgiving offering or free will offering or your tithe or your personal sacrifice .

Tsyl74:
My name is Todd and I am a Paranormal Investigator in the US. I try to help people being tormented by spirits, especially those of the inhuman variety. I recently had a horrific experience when a woman contacted my group saying she feared a demon was attacking her and trying to possess her. It seems she had gotten involved with a group of demon worshipers in LA and when the Demonic infestation began she ran home to Boston but the Demon followed. Anyway the day we were to try and help her I woke up that morning feeling sick and as if someone really angry was following me around my home trying to intimidate me only I was the only one there. About two hours before we were to leave and investigate this woman's claims and try to help her text messages began coming into my phone. These are the messages: 1. Demon was watching you earlier 2. Demon made you sick. Then a messages saying Demon is in Judy, that's our clients name. Then as I walked around the store I began to feel angry and when a customer said something to upset me I began to feel enraged, a minute later a message comes in saying Demon made you mad. Then texts began to come in naming my children in a threatening manner. Every message had a different number attached and when I called the client she claimed to have no knowledge if this. My group even had a different investigation planned for a couple of days later and I got text saying Demon and see you at and it named the other location specifically. By then I was totally freaked out and after my children were threatened I was forced to cancel the investigation. I emailed you specifically about these events could you please get back to me asap. Thank you

I’m vindicated at last! I will check the mail now.

NPComplete:
When u see a man invested in this tithe collection like Joagbaje, just know he owns a church or is planning to own a church in the future.
Now Daddy Freeze has reduced the number of gullible morons to help him fuel his tithe coveting habit.

Open your bible and Deal with the topic not personal attacks .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P_e4eB4n-8

Also Benny announces a trip to israel with pastor chris .You May kindly send your prayer request . Which they will take to Jerusalem for intercession

Share your testimonies

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ikorodureporta:
can u see this: BREAKING FORTH...

I don't really get the message.

bingbagbo:
I need scholars to help me!!

He was just a child na

ifyalways:
Interesting. Never thought of this before.

Any takers @ topic. Joagbaje?

toltee4real:
I am deeply concern as regards the dictate of Christianity as a religion, the guides and procedures for burying our dead relatives. I found it necessary to bring it up here as the Muslims has a unique way of handling it. Does bible stipulates any guidance?

Burial , weddings etc all have ceremonies which may not be biblical. And not being biblical doesn't mean it's wrong . We can class them as"Acceptable will of God" when Ananias died there was no ceremony likewise John the Baptist . It's a matter of choice to bury the individual immediately or follow ceremony .

OtemSapien:
That's what we call hypnotism

You're wrong .

This was posted over 4 years ago . Why posting it again

ikorodureporta:
I need an explanation to why the numbers 13 & 33 reflects on some churches' events, activities & nomenclature. In the catholic church, events usually hold on the 13th, or on a date that adds up to 13 or 33. Eg may 8, oct 3, etc. When you do the arithmetic, the number 13 or 33 is always coded there. Their harvests, weddings, funerals, baptism, other events, even publications carry that secret code. Eg,Mary was celebrated on the 13th of this month.Its not only in catholic churches....i'v observed a few others......


1. CHRIST EMBASSY = 13


2. WINNERS CHAPEL= 13


3. ROCK CATHEDRAL = 13


4. THE EXPERIENCE = 13


5. THRONE OF GRACE (rccg) = 13


6. ONE LOVE FAMILY (gurumaharaji) = 13., The first letters, O=15, L=12, F=6, also adds up to 33...


7. JEHOVA WITNESS..... J=10, W=23, 10 + 23 = 33......


I'v seen many others which i cannot recall now.


What do you think is the secret behind it??


Seun, Lalasticlala, olaadegbu, kingebukasblog, omooba77, ubenedictus, joagbaje, analice107, annyplenty, come & explain!

It's merely coincidences

dalaman:
. If man is hard wired to be religious then which religion is he hard wired to believe in?

If you say that man is hard wired to be superstitious then I will agree with you but religious? That remains a lie. Religion isn't natural to man but being superstitious I believe is natural to man.

Being religious doesn't mean wired to organized religion . It's a self belief and quest for God

frosbel2:
The issue here is this, if a book contains some fabrications mixed with truth , how can we be sure that the rest of the book is not a fabrication ? Surely a liar also speaks some truth but he is still a liar. God in the book of proverbs hates a lying tongue and we are admonished throughout the bible to be people of integrity. If so, why is the new testament saturated with error, fabrication, contradiction and manipulation;Is this what the Christian truth stands on as the infallible word of God ?? smh

And what makes you to call them fabrication ?
I rebuke you .

Nothing is wrong in questioning your belief . It can be a sign of growth . But You ought to First humble yourself supposing you’re wrong . Present your concerns for debate . Than to outrighly criticise the word of God openly and thereby stand the chance of destroying the faith of younger Christians . What have you left them with ? . Its careless and reckless of you to post this kind of thread . What happens at the end of the day if you’re proven wrong . What will happen the people who’s faith you have overthrown ? Don’t be reckless . Even if you’re right . Remember the word of Jesus .


Matthew 13:25-30
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 -- He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

MiddleDimension:
ubenedictus, joagbaje, donnie, seun, sagamite and fratermathy you all can come in here and let us know what you think

donnie:
Evolution might have existed as the scriptures allow for such a possibility.

But if there was evolution, it must have ended before Adam was created.

I seconded the post above . The only thing I knew was a major difference between science and GE church was the age of the earth . Calculating from Adam creation , it dates about 6-7,000 years but science proves the earth is millions of years and there were fossil evidence to back it up. But studying the Bible shows the facts had been there all along . Adam was not the first man . There was a world and civilization which was extinct before Adam came . So we see harmony here . If there was any for of revolution it doesn't take away the fact that there was an intelligent being who orchestrated it . The order in the universe iffer more than enough proof

MiddleDimension:
your agreeing that the book of jasher and that of enoch should both be in the bible is because they were mentioned in the old testament,

They were quoted in the new testament as well

Your agreement with it is not based on what you read in them (and i am sure you've never read any of them before).

I have read the book of Enoch and the book of jasher to a great extent

The thread has a question: "who determins the cannon of scripture?". Since you agree that they were removed, it means you agree that some people must have compiled these books. So the question is: who were they?

The church fathers did for the new testament . soe of the books were missing before until the were found in the cave of cumram apart from the dead sea scrolls. some of the jewish leaders rejected some books because it talks about jesus

Babalawos:
I wasn't quarrelling either. I was simpling telling you the Truth.

You have been brain washed that jesus is a savior.

I have an assignment for you; "ask more than 10 OBE persons from different religion and ethnicity to share his or her OBE with you and you will be shocked by your findings.

Christianity is inferior to ATR. Feel free to quote me any day

what is OBE

Babalawos:
Your jesus is a demon

no be quarrel na, you're even ignorant of what you're serving.

Babalawos:
Osun and other Orisas (Divinities) possesses their worshipers.

Osun is a Goddess and She is not a demon.

There is no demons or satan or hell in Africa Tradition Religion.

You have alot to learn about your tradition.

The gods and goddesses are demons .

MiddleDimension:
Joeagbaje, you may be interested in this topic; but if you are not, then it is ok to stay away.

I didn't get the mention . Because the moniker s joagbaje not joeagbaje

hmm, i understand what you are saying! I am not out to condemn anyone as i understand that people should do that which they can relate to when it comes to believes. I am not going to impose my views on anyone but there are certain things that are just basic and the question of who decided the canon of the bible is one.

Some book were omitted probably for some political reasons . I don't se a reason why the book of Enoch or the book of jasher should be removed . Even the apostles quoted from them in their epistles .

Babalawos:
. Cuba, America, Brazil, Mexico, Columbia, Haiti... etc have started worshiping the Orisas while Nigerians like yourself dont appreciate what you have, calling your tradition demonic? What a shame. You are disgrace to black race. I weep for you.

So you don't believe it's demonic . So then what spirit posess them ?

nwakaibe:
Long time sir. I am seeing your exploits in Osogbo. Congrats sir. I watched your dance steps

. Fire !!! . All in attempt to reach the youth for Jesus ni .

Babalawos:
What is your proof?

When a marine spirit possess a woman it's a spiritual marriage . Which destroys earthly relationship . Just look at SUSANNE WENGER . A German lady who came to Nigeria and became osun wife till death

nwakaibe:
The purpose of kingchat is to provide a secure means of communication for Christians. The same way we have tv stations dedicated to christian broadcasting. Assumption is dangerous. A man should air his opinion on what he is not knowledgeable on.

And also as a future preservation . Because of the sensoring of christian articles on social media . We don't know what more policy may suprise christians tomorrow . We need a platform for unlimited expressions.