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mabell: See the pastor chris that ppl said will never SA again
Chain! There is God o!

When I said the First Lady be our member and she was in the partners conference last year in lagos , them say na lie . Now no be just First Lady , the first man don join. Many of their household members recieved healing in the healing school

musKeeto: The resurrection of Joagbaje's monikers. Every single one of them.

When your lies hit the walls , you come after Jo .

Gombs: “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”
― Mark Twain
Mark Twain must have had a clear knowledge of what he was talking about many many years back. His experience is no different from our world today. 5 years ago, new went flying in the media, and as usual folks find news about selected entities to be juicy and assimilate it all, irrespective of how silly they may sound, majorly fueled by a weird hate for the said entity.
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Don't mind all these our nairalanders and their lies . Just like the bible says they deceived and being deceived .

2 Timothy 3:13
" But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."

PastorKun: Small time joagbaje would come here and start bragging he flew to Tanzania to pray for an ebola victim at his own cost without collecting a kobo from the victim.

If I collect money you will complain, if I don't , you will complain

@Joagbaje
This is a good opportunity to demonstrate your benevolence, either travel to Kenya to prayer for her or sponsor her trip to Nigeria for the healing.

Why don't you sponsor her ? Why should I waste money on someone who doesn't believe . I preach the gospel , and signs and wonders accompany it . I don't need to prove anything to a mocker . I presented an HIV case that was healed here . I dare all of you to investigate it . Go to the federal medical centre . And expose my lie . I somehow think you guys knows I'm right but pride will not allow you to admit . If not somebody should have investigated this testimony .

donstevico: even ur above post is as useless as u

More people are Begining to see . His sickness

Where's Kunle

Thank God for cameras

Many have criticized Olaye George (Godprophet) on this forum , but Some recent incidence got me thinking about the year 2014 prophecies of Olaye George . I remembered He talked about a new desease outbreak, He talked about scandals in churches And He talked about a building in Nigeria that will collapse and kill many . Etc. recent building collapse got my attention I was trying to locate the post he made this January.

Mbaemeka x3

Your posts dey loong o. Try dey summaries na

Kenyan28: I have dared @Jo over the years, even in our conversation over the weekend, to come over and pray for this Kenyan girl until she turns Negative. I told him that I have not lost any faith as he claims(same reason why I am waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ-lol). All he could do is to send me video clips of "healed" people,the same ones he has been uploading in this forum. Why don't you do it on/with me so that we can set up a clean record of a miracle from CE?? I dare u once more, come over. (We could share the half a million Naira.....loolest!)

You don't believe. Your invitation was a mockery . You said I should come and pray but you're certain it won't work. If you have that kind of mindset I will be wasting my time and money. I won't come to pray for you to prove anything to you. Jesus won't show a sign to prove anything. The word of God is what I present to you . If you believe and seek him in humility you will have your miracle back.

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

SirJohn: Stop making excuses Joagbaje, the challenge put nearly everything in your own terms ie the people to be prayed for, the location, the time etc. we were only going to be mere observers.
The last time I tried investigating one of your funny claims of healing here, it ended in insults and name calling. I do not wish to embark on such merry-go-round, nor subject people to such.

I may take the challenge if I'm led to. If I get green light on it ,I will say.

That apart . But john if my memory serve me well couple of years ago . You claim there is no longer healing or so through prayers. And you said if I can produce any case of a sick person ,you will investigate etc etc. now I'm giving you a challenge john. I prayed for a guy who was healed of HIV . Kindly investigate this lie of mine. The video shows how sickly he was and The record must be in the hospital Before and after. For once john . Follow my challenge through and disgrace me.

SirJohn: Joagbaje is yet to indicate his interest to accept or decline my challenge; if he accepts the challenge, and I hope he does, then I will create a separate thread for it.

There are principles . I will pray for any true seeker of God . But if someone is mocking my faith and say I should pray . It's mockery . I don't need to prove God to any person . But I will minister to any true seeker . Because if a mocker comes and say "Pray let's see what you got" he won't recieve . A man must humble himself and seek God genuinely .

Remember Jesus power couldn't do much in his home town becsuse they didn't believe .

Mark 6:5-6
And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

If Kenya had said rather, I believer in healing through you .i believe in the anointing upon your life that God can heal me through you. Pls pray for me . I tell you , she will recover if she is prayed for.

tintingz: The journalists are paid salaries for their job so it is a BRIBE.

It's not a bribe . It's a norm among journalists here to demand for money. When you hold a meeting with them officially . So someone who now tries to create a scandal out of this is like someone who is claiming that paying police bail money is bribe

SirJohn: @All,
I am definitely in for a challenge anytime. Over the years, I have put my money where my mouth is and offered half a million Naira to anyone who would provide evidence to the miraculous cure of certain ailments (which I listed) through faith healing; unfortunately nobody seem to have claimed that bounty.

John you know you are not ready for these claims of yours, if you're sincere. Start with the hiv case I posted . The guy works at the oh airport. He did one of the tests at the FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTRE. Not christ embassy medical centre.

This time around, I want to renew my proposition and I'm willing to still stake half a million Naira, plus a promise to tender apologies to Pastor Chris in five national daily's and on Nairaland.

Go on YouTube there countless videos of healings through pastor chris. Start with Mr Strive the owner of econet wireless. He became a member after he miraculously got healed of heart problem. Everyone in IPPC watched him give his testimony live.

MY TAKE ON THE KENYAN28 CHALLENGE

I am of the opinion that the Kenyan28 challenge will probably end inconclusive for the two reasons:

1. Joagbaje has already raised a red flag with the comment below, so if she doesn't get healed, he will obviously fall back on flimsy excuses like lack of faith or the presence of sin in her life.

Anyone who desire a miracle should position himself for it. It a principle. Someone may lose a healing that way. That's not even the main problem . Nobody is perfect. The major problem is the umbelief that has been programmed into her. Personal faith is necessary

Mark 9:23
-- Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

MY PROPOSITION
Let Joagbaje provide a genuine case of anyone with the following conditions: Complete blindness in both eyes (preferably born blind), Complete paralysis, Complete Deafness in both ears, a child with Downs syndrome, or a child with brain damage.

Let's start with the HIV case. You can see in the video how sickly he was. Very tiny . I didn't even know he had HIV. I just prayed as I was led and rebuke death. He was the one who came to testify . He tested himself in about 3hospital before and after. He is still alive. Let him get the medical results . John why not Interbiew him and talk with the doctors who handles him . 3 or 4 doctors won't risk their job to create a lie

Watch the video here:.
https://www.dropbox.com/l/zm7qzQm89ZWxuyrDrva8kp

dammytosh: Yes you are right. I was with an organization who held a press conference, All the journalist who came to report the event were PAID.

Simple! No body should crucify tb Joshua. Whoever posted that audio is wicked and malicious.

JonBee1: S-H-A-M-E

On you

Seun: So you're saying it's an extortion and not a bribe? Is 50,000 naira the normal amount that journalists get for attending press conferences?

You could as well call the Bail money police collect extortion also .but the issue is It has become part of the system.

If I pay bail money. Have I bribed police?

ed2gbi: This is not a bribe. Listen to the audio again. And if insist it is bribe, please kindly explain to us what he bribed them for.

Nigeria press conference is not complete without collection of money. It's a norm. They themselves will hint you that it's the practice of the association. Tb Joshua was not offering bribe he was only announcing he had met their demand .

SirJohn: Okay Jo lets assume you are right for a moment; what do I have to offer this young woman? Nothing!
I have told her here on NL that HIV has no cure so why would she choose to listen to me instead of you? tell me... You had something to offer her,

You saw the video of my crusade, you saw the video of the HIV person I prayed for . May God curse be on me if I have posted any false information here. It's so painful to see how you who once knew truth shattered this woman's faith.

Ask her , when she first came on Nairaland , people taught she was a CEC member giving false testimony. I contacted her by mail and phone and pleaded with her two things . Please don't give a false testimony,God doesn't need it . But when I confirmed she was genuine . But I observed she had issue with anger and was insulting people here. I still pleaded with her again such . I have to stand before God one day to account for my life. If I could tell her then not to give a fake testimony ,you should know I won't be part of a lie.

By the time her language begin to change , from "HOW COME MY HEALING WAS NOT PERMANENT". to "I WAS NEVER HEALED" I backed off . Because at this point praying for her will never work except God will just do a spectacular miracle by healing just to demonstrate his love.

AlfaSelltzer: What if she still believes that your God can heal her and contacts you about it, just as Sir John claimed you spoke with her?

If she believes ,she will be healed. It was faith that healed her before. I wish she had cooperated with me the first time . I was willing to spend time and money. If I could go to Tanzania to pray for someone ,self sponsored at my own expense . You should understand my passion and concern and sacrifice .

AlfaSelltzer: Now, there's a new challenge, for the challenge of taking someone there has been said here, the new challenge is what if Joagbaje heals Kenya?

That was what I was pushing for in the beginning.I know is that Kenya got healed but she lost it. How she lost it is between her and God. She herself knew she was healed. Apart from the medical test. Symptoms were gone. Even when symptoms retuned . She still maintained that she knew she was healed . I offered her either to pray for her as a last option but firstly I tried to arrange for her to meet the pastor over there . The pastor that used to be there had been transferred to Nigeria, I had to get the number of the new pastor and called him from nigeria relating the matter. I told Kenya to go and meet him. But while I was making all these effort to save and help situation, big bros here were helping her destroy her faith. Initially she used to say . I knew I was healed but why did it come back but later her language changed to what bros here told her "I was never healed" at that point there's nothing I could do . Even if prayers was made she has no faith left

This looks more like a school than a church

Message of condolence should rather be for the scoan . They need comfort and courage in a time such as this.

SirJohn: You mean the type of divine immunity that nearly sent her to an early grave?
You're just bitter she came out to expose your boss.

She didn't expose anything . She only expose herself. It was obvious she was healed. When she came to testify here. You guys taught it was me having double user ID. I called her to verify . And she cleared my heart. I came back here to testify she is real , she even had Kenya accent , you guys still laughed . Her doctor testified , you guys still laughed. She was in perfect health for over one year after testing negative She was very insultive to you guys Until I called her and cautioned her . You can't be insulting people in the name of God. It's between her and God why she lost the healing. Probably her character. But there was still hope . I told her what to do. Until you guys talked her out of faith. John you should know that God will hold you responsible for everyone who's faith you destroy in the healing power of Jesus you once believed.

Kenyan28: Top 3 reasons you should use Revivo today:
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Pls eat your drug alone. We believe in divine immunity .

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SirJohn: Mr Joagbaje there you go with your lies again. Our engagement is still here on NL for all to reference. I never said she wasn't blind because she didn't have a medical report. She told me herself that she was never blind but started having peppery sensation in both eyes after an altercation with a neighbour. You simply did what your master does which is garnish cases and form stories of healing based on false representation.
I also called the lady's brother and he couldn't also say emphatically that her sister was blind. By the time I called her again after giving you feedback from our conversation, she became hostile and wouldn't talk again nor pick my calls (very typical of someone trying to evade being caught)
That was what happened and you know its the truth; its not too late to still verify; I'm sure the lady is still alive.

You're just an insincere liar john. She never told you that. And she can't say that. She was blind for weeks. She quarreled with a person and they attacker her spiritually . From the bathroom she couldn't open her eyes for weeks . After I prayed for her ,her eyes opened but she still couldn't see. Then she said to herself "I CAN SEE" and sight was restored . I had it all on tape that's about 9 -10 years ago.

SirJohn: Now to your claims of healing HIV, I make bold to say that your videos are nothing but another theatrical display and proves absolutely nothing. You keep talking about how emaciated the guy looked; so? What does that prove?

I'm amazed at you. So what made him look sickly . Will 4 medical report lie? Your mind is already closed to truth . I'm not trying to convince you. The man who got healed of ebola only watched my crusade and believed . It saved his life.

I wish I could put the guy on a hot sit and ask him some questions myself, probably one on one; I'm sure like all other cases, the whole story will fall apart.
If that guy will be honest, I don't mind putting him on the hot sit

Ive been waiting for someone who will do that. So I would have really loved you to put him on your so called hot seat. I bet you,the seat will not be hot at all . My only concern is your sincerity . We've been here before . I gave you a contact of a lady who got healed of blindness. And you said she wasn't blind just because hospital didn't give her diagnosis.

Well if you're really interested and sincere His is JEFF Niboro by name is he works at the international airport in ph.

In addition . I have a case of ebola healed in Arusha town ,Tanzania. . If I lie about theses things the curse of God will be on me. God doesn't need a lie. If you don't believe in miracles today. You will believe when you need one someday

dorox: It woud be very interesting to know how the likes of joagbage will respond to kenyan28 now that she has retracted her earlier claim of being miraculously healed of HIV.

Just a touch will heal her. I have 4 cases of HIV healed at least that I know. There could be more who never came to testify

dorox: The acting was poor and the story line was laughable, I just wonder why those in attendance were so easy to be deceived.

Really. Did you see how the guy looked emanciated and sickly before the prayer. How was that acted? He lost his Fiancee because of his HIV status . Don't be stubborn . Healing is before you. Watch it again with open mind. https://www.dropbox.com/l/zm7qzQm89ZWxuyrDrva8kp

jrerico1: It look like a passenger plane or an ordinary plane.

It looks more like a military jet to me