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It's the lyrics or message of course so long as it's from the word of God. . Well for the artist, the vessel matters but his do you know the spiritual state of a man singing Jesus I love you on radio or tv. So it's better to stick with the message. As long as it's from scripture . We are connecting to it's because it's from scripture . Regardless of which donkey sang it . Or which stone was used.

What is bestuality? It's defined in this scripture

Leviticus 18:22-24
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

MY PROBLEM WITH GAY


Satan works by a system called "Gradualism" by this he patiently plans gradually from stage to stage the unfolding of his plans.

The problem with gay marriage goes beyond the perverted sexual orientation . When gay ism becomes acceptable satan will move to his next agenda . "You can marry any animal you love ".

Gradualism may take so many years to brainwash the world into the big picture. As much as I don't have hatred or condemnation on a gay person. I love them and I cast the demon of gay out of them. We must know what we sign for as we make laws in Favour of gay marriage . Bestiality will be next agenda . Man marrying beasts!

Exodus 22:19
"Anyone having sexual relations with an animal shall certainly be executed.

Has it being moved ?

What's the point you're getting at

emotional:
'the topic should have read 'GIVE YOUR EATING IN D DREAM A POSITIVE INTERPRETATIONS'
cos there are dreams which are visions of Warnings,revelation or direction which might be scarry at times.

God messages are not scary , it's the enemy hat gives scary communication and scary dreams

Leadership bird you mean

Alwaystrue:
Revelation
Hebrews 1:1-2
1 Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets
2 And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe
God sent His word in Flesh through His Son but the world did not still hearken.
John 5:43
For I have come to you in my Father's name, and you have rejected me. Yet if others come in their own name, you gladly welcome them
Inspiration
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right
Illumination
Ephesians 4:18
Their minds are full of darkness; they wander far from the life God gives because they have closed their minds and hardened their hearts against him
Luke 24:45
Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.

It is possible to have the revelaed word but no illumination. That is what happened. When the heart is closed, understanding is gone, their is a veil over the eyes.
But thanks to Jesus who removes that veil. Believe Him and His words. Jesus is Wisdom, Light, Life. It is not about professing Him if you cant even believe what He says. You can never go wrong with Jesus. He is the Living Word.
Believe is stronger than the way we see it.
Let us believe.

Nice

christemmbassey:
this is one of the reasons we call tithe collectors 'THIEVES'.

Then Jesus is the person you're insulting as thief . Because he's the high priest and tithe collector.

Hebrews 7:8 (Bible in Basic English)
Now at the present time, men over whom death has power take the tenth; but then it was taken by one of whom it is witnessed that he is living.

The rest no gree load abeg

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Great contributions.

lastmessenger:
can you biblically prove to me that there is anything called spirit wife?

Genesis 6:1 (Living Bible, The - TLB)
​Now a population explosion took place upon the earth. It was at this time that beings from the spirit world looked upon the beautiful earth women and took any they desired to be their wives.

I was thinking a Christ embassy should no better. These are lies which some hungry people have deviced to decieve the gullible.

Don't get personal leave church names out . Spirit beings do have intercourse with men. They are real brother. I can tell you a lot about them. Because I cast them out a lot. They talked at me many times through their victims. " leave her/ him alone!! She's my wife !!! Etc

Gombs:
Wow... Great truths.

Good to have you fully back, I hope you are fully back?

Just for few days o. The past one year has been tight for me , and it helped break Nairaland ADDICTION . But I am presently in the U.S for an exhibition so I have much time for few more days.

lastmessenger:
I don't believe in spirit husband or wife. If these things are real as they keep talking about it, I would want someone to help me get a spirit wife.
Am sure spirit wife will be better than the real human wife.atleast they can reveal deep and secret things to me.
Any idea how I can get a spirit wife?

It's a foooooolish request. You'd better find out the danger you're requesting for.

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death Romans 8:2

There're two sets of laws referenced in our opening verse: the law of the Spirit of life [/b]and the [b]law of sin and death. Of the two, the law of life, is superior and more powerful than the law of sin and death. Being born again, the law that's at work in you is the law of life. The God-life (Greek: Zoe) is inherent in you, and as a result, you're death-free.

It doesn't matter whatever corrupting influences, including death, are working against the people of the world; you're immune to them all. Death has ceased to work in you; you're off its limits. You don't belong in the realm of death. It's important to understand that Apostle Paul wasn't just trying to give us a sense of deliverance from death; he wasn't saying the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has "freed" us from death, but that it has MADE us death-free. That means, you're untouchable by death.

It's like a room or an area that's "soundproof"; that means sound can't get in, no matter how you try. In Christ Jesus, you're "death-proof!" The only way you can bring death into your life is if you reprogramme yourself otherwise, by speaking words of death. The Bible says,

"Death and life are in the power of the tongue. . . Proverbs 18:21

Keep yourself healthy and sound with your words! Don't talk sickness, disease, poverty or defeat. Rather, declare regularly, "In my path there's no death! I walk the way of life, because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, has made me free from the law of sin and death". The Bible says if any man be in Christ he's a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). You're in Christ Jesus, and the law that operates in Christ is the law of life; you're alive to God!

abrotechit:
Hello.
Please this same man recently came to us that he has converted to Islam and pastors want to kill him.
The story he told us is exactly like u posetd without the section on his conversion to xtianity.
You mentioned the four children's name right !!!!.
Some thigns are suspicious about him.
Please can you help post some pictures of the man you tal about here ?
This will help alot

This thread was posted about 5 years ago o, i think she posted his picture at the beginning

sammied:
So you now take the definition of a man's book to judge your brothers in Christ? What happened to getting answers from the Bible itself? If you so much believe in a man's book to the extent of using it to pass judgement on a body of believers... Are you not the number one cult member?
With all your submissions on the John McArthur conference.. Since then I have been praying for you. All I hear in your thread are just pure hatred for Christians who don't believe the same things as you. May God help you, because instead of edifying God's people, you bring far more confusions. Even Peter didn't understand a lot of Pauls writings.. Yet he didn't for a bitter critics club on him.
Are you truly a Christian? Are you truly a part of the body of Christ? If yes..... Then focus in edification of the body not pointing fingers..... Cos wen you point one finger... More points back at you.
If you were in the corinthians church in the Bible days... You will definitely call them a cult.... But Paul didn't... He only rebuked them on wot they were doing wrong but yet he praised what they were doing right. A lot of things were wrong with that church but yet Paul called them Holy brethren.
There's so much to say to you, but for lack of time I stop here. Remain blessed!

more witnesses to truth . Thanks bro.
Hope he takes . heed
bye all.

vooks:
Hello Pastor,
Doctrines don't grow in the forest, and nor are they propagated by dolphins; they are taught by men, and the purveyors of false doctrines are false teachers. Hell is not reserved for false doctrines but for false teachers

so the question is why would you call another person false , why not you ? What make you feel that your belief is to be accepted above the other. Let's humble ourselves . The word of God is not to be preached in strife and insult . So that if you're proven wrong ,there's atmosphere of acceptance and not political arrogance

2 Timothy 2:24-25
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

So if Oyaks propagates falsehoods, we are supposed to JUDGE it. It would be very unthinking judging doctrines minus their purveyors. Recently, some four terrorists stormed a university and butchered 147 kids. According to Joagbaje, judge the doctrine, those were very innocent boys, in fact calling them terrorists is insulting. They are not even murderers, but murder of the 147 they did
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/04/africa/kenya-garissa-university-witnesses/

That's still your own personal wrong judgment of me. Deal with facts and not persons .

Let's look at how scriptures treat false teachers\prophet

Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves

2 Cor 11:13 (KJV)
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ

2Peter 2:1 (KJV)
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

The point is , you can't be wary of false doctrines while completely indifferent/ignorant of their teachers

PS: Has it ever occurred to you how this 'judge not' is applied selectively to pastors and not the laity/congregation?

Cc Winsomex, Trustman,SirJohn,Gombs

The question to you still is : by what standard do you label another false teacher. Because his belief is different from yours? Or you don't like him? We ought to judge by the word. And not carnal political and emotional standard.

The day you people will be ready for pure christian talk without personal attack , we shall begin talk .because the bible says to ignore certain people .

Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

WinsomeX:
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A wise way of avoiding the issues raised. It's been nice discussing with you too.

Bye bye.

You're not discussing , you're insulting. The day you're ready for civilic discussion as christian we shall discuss .

2 Timothy 2:23-25
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Romans 5:18
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life

Jesus wasn't only delivered on account of our sins, He was also raised for our justification:

Romans 4:25
"Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification

What does it mean to be justified? It means to be "discharged and acquitted". We've been absolved of all guilt! In the mind if justice, in the eyes of God, you never sinned; therefore, there's no charge against you. You might wonder, "How is this possible?" 

The reason is simple: the Christian is a new creation. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says,

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new".

The new creation is a brand new species of being that never existed before; he's without a past. That's why God can declare him, "not guilty" because there's nothing to judge since he has a brand new life! 

This is the concept of justification. Our justification isn't because Jesus "paid" for our sins; He did that for the whole world of sinners, but the Christian isn't a sinner. He's a new creation. 

The new creation isn't a product of the death and burial of Jesus Christ, but of His resurrection! Christianity came from the resurrection. The whole world was paid for by His death, but when you believe in Jesus, you're recreated (John 3:16); you're born again and are made righteous! We read in Romans 4:25 that He was raised (resurrected) for our justification; the Amplified version says it was for "...(our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God]". 

You're justified, because you're a new creation. This is the reason we must keep telling the unsaved to come into Christ, because when they do, they'll become new creations; their past will cease to exist; they'll be born into a newness of life - absolved from all guilt! 

Romans 5:1 
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

WinsomeX:
If you do not wish to prove that I am sinning by calling your church a cult, it is fine. Its a hard work to do and I understand your reluctance. But how you can conclude here that we are not to judge people but easily claim I am sinning in another post, is inconsistency bc by your own standard: judge doctrine not men.
Something on the Jesus not proving anything: It is clear that Jesus did all the miracles he did to PROVE to the Jews he was the messiah. They were SIGNS pointing to him. Our Lord spent all his life proving his veracity.
As to the judge not scripture. Look well Bro. Matthew 7:1ff teaches we should not judge as long as we are guilty of same thing.
1Cor 5, Paul calls us to judge fellow believers. 1 Thess 5, scriptures calks us to prove all things. Matthew 24: beware of false prophets. Judge and know them. Etc.
I refer you to my last post to Gombs.
No need to get all tensed up. These things are no secret anymore. And the same you that will deny owing a man half a million after you were clearly busted of a miracle scam should not be telling us what to believe or not to believe. Its obvious that lying is another trademark of CE.

Nobody is tensed up dear . You can continue with your lifestyle . If that's your understanding of Christianity. I only admonish you as s christian at least it's on record someone reached out to you . You cant say you're ignorant of truth . My hand is free. Have a greeat day.

MuttleyLaff:
I have never read anything so "confused.com" anywhere else like these
It is like saying an evil person cannot commit evil because such is already evil personified
or a career criminal crime is not or cannot commit a crime because such is crime personified.

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That's your interpretation. If you want explanation "simply ask.com"

WinsomeX:
I have called your church a cult and proved it. Prove that what I'm doing is a sin.

I don't need to prove anything to you . Jesus didn't have to prove anything . You can judge a doctrine but not a people or another man . Scripture says judge not. How much do you know enough to judge another ? If there is a. Doctrine you're not clear about ,knowing that there must be a bible reason for it why not ask for clarification, giving benefit of doubt than ,laying insult on Gods people ? . You enter deeper error thinking you're doing God a service .

We never said if a christian does something wrong it's not a sin. So I'm amazed at how you came to that. Conclusion. What we believe which I have always posted on this forum is that an umbeliever cannot commit sin . He is sin personified . It's only a christian who can commit a sin. There is sin against the brethren and sin against God. It's a Christian that can RECIEVE forgiveness . But here you give impression as though we teach people to do wrong and it' won't be a sin.

Secondly you talked about man of God caught pants down. Were you there ? These are dangerous things and very Unspiritual. Not just because he's a man of God. Even a wrong assumption of a christian is a sin. You can't go online spreading hear say. I have learn enough to keep myself from being busybody in other men's matter. If I didnt witness a wrong from a man . I should wash my heart from pollution. Even if I witness a wrong. I have to option. To pray and intercede. Or to correct if I have such authority over the person . Why should we leave the ministry of the gospel to be judging and condemning one another .

WinsomeX:
SUMMARY OF THREAD UP TILL PAGE 5

INTRODUCTION BY WX: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult#32353049

CHRISTIAN SCIENCE, MORMONS, JEHOVAH WITNESSES AND WOF BY WALTER MARTIN: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult#32365032

THE FALSE GOSPEL OF CHRIST EMBASSY BY WX: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/1#32381792

INTRODUCTION TO KINGDOM OF THE CULTS BY WALTER MARTIN: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/1#32393735

CULT SEMANTICS BY WALTER MARTIN: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/2#32417698

DISSECTING A CHRIS OYAKHILOME TEACHING BY WX: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/3#32488776

THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STRUCTURE OF CULTISM BY WALTER MARTIN: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/3#32514481

AN ANALYSIS INTO OYAKHILOME DOCTRINE OF "A MAN OF GOD CANNOT SIN" BY WX: www.nairaland.com/2237377/christ-embassy-church-cult/4#32592680

Your assumptions are wrong brother. And it's a sin to call Gods people a name God hasn't called them.

Demons don't go on their own . These are beings who have lost their original bodies and desperately desire a human body . If they get a body to inhabit they can't walk out . They even resist being cast out. The fact that they are not attacking an individual for s season doesn't mesn they are gone.

Also note that an attack by demon in the life of a person may not necessarily mean that the demon has entered such person . They can attack from outside. It's called oppression .

If the life of a christian is full of fire , the demon may be suppressed that it can't function except the person become prayer less .

Lastly , Jesus or God doesn't not cast devil out . So praying to God or Jesus to cast devil out of you doesn't not make spiritual sense . It is you who God has given power to cast Devils out .

fonzie2u:
You may be the PR of the church but I insist this is FALSE TEACHING!!!

I overlook your insult

A first timer comes to church, you drag him out and start asking him if can speak in tongues so no one will understand what's been said: that is false! There must be an interpreter: moreover check your post: the holy spirit 'desended' on them

The issue is about INFILLING of the Holy Spirit which is a necessity and compulsory for every christian . You can't fulfil your destiny and ministry without the INFILLING. If you find a people passionate to help you receive the holyghost you should RECIEVE them as Godsent.

Kindly comment in this scripture:

Acts 19:1-2
​ And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

I came to service to hear GOD's message: so ur Cell team should let faithfuls decide on their spirituality. You don't force the gospel on people

God has given us the spirit of discerning between what is right and wrong!!

Only an ignorant fool will fall for all this.

The scripture I quote above should be enough to answer you if you're humble to recieve it . Let me quote it to the end for you

. . . . And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. . . . And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesie

Every christian should RECIEVE the holyghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues

You will argue your case to the last. The chat I sent to you about Jeff was one of the last . I reached him from beginning , I send message to him on Facebook , I sent to his pastor too . I sent pictures of the video before I finally sent video.

. The woman who got healed of blindness is still alive I posted her number here , I posted her brother's number. If she wasn't blind what did she tell you she got healed of. Because the women said you lied.