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It starts spiritually, except you're not a christian . The spirit realm controls the physical, politically,economically and otherwise. That was the mistake nebuchadenezer the king made. He took God out of politics.

Daniel 4:17
17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

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Good question ,

@knowjack,
Divorce should only be a last option and it's mostly based on selfishness. Its important to know if you're christian , I mean born again. Do you have a pastor? Have you two sought his counsel. Face less councillors online may not be the best help. We can only judge by your words only, we havent heard From your wife.everyone is right in his own eyes. That is why seeking online counsel maybe risky for your case. It's more like you want people to support you . You need a man of God who will sit 2 of you down, and hear 2 of you out. There will be a solutuion. You may be right , she may have terrible character. Some women have demonic problems, like spirit husband , curses etc. I'm trying not to go deep into that. But such things do exist. Such devils will make couples fight and fight over nothing. But once that demon is cast out, you have a brand new wife. I've seen it happen. Divorce is not solution. You need a man of God.

What prophetic utterances ?

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God does not create disable people. Every thing he makes are perfect .

There is riot in damaturu , Yobe , from reports ,Christians are being killed ,churches are being burn , bomb explosion. Let's pray for an end of this evil.

Explain, it depends on what you mean.

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Enigma:
Maybe you are too blinkered to see what we see!

1. The "pastor" Chris that does the trick of making acolytes "fall" with his shadow ---- is a deceiver!

2. The "pastor" Chris that says "don't pray to or through Jesus Christ" ----- is a false teacher!

3. The "pastor" Chris that says "nowhere in the New Testament are we told to obey God" ---- is a heretic and false teacher!

4. The "pastor" Chris that says he and his followers are "gods" ---- is a false teacher!

5. The "pastor" Chris that says 'non-tithers' are robbing God ---- is a false teacher!

6. The "pastor" Chris that does the slain in spirit/falling under anointing thing ---- is a deceiver!

7. The "pastor" Chris that says don't pray 'Thy will be done' --- is a heretic and false teacher!

Twisted propagandas. Well it's your opinion.

Enigma:
^^^ Alright, and when the matter was brought to Oyakhilome's attention what did he then do about it? Remember that a generator was "sown" to the headquarters!

I'm not aware of that. Im aware he bought generator for the branch where he worshipped .

Similarly, what did Oyakhilome do about his thugs beating up Simon Ateba three years or so ago?
If he did anything, why did his thugs still man-handle and almost beat up Seyi Rhodes recently? What has Oyakhilome done since the Seyi Rhodes incident to prevent his thugs beating up and man-handling innocent people ever again.

These "thugs" are police men.  I can't say what I don't know. Pastor chris was not even in the country. He wouldn't order such. But if any action was taken ,I don't know. I know what he teaches. He said recently that we should mind how we treat people who work for us . He said even if it's a bricklayer or Capenter who we pay wages to,we can still buy them free lunch despite the wages. And by this we can reach them with the gospel. The pastor chris you people potray is a strange one from the one we know.

Are you not ashamed of a "pastor" associated with such thuggery? Are you not yourself ashamed to be associated with such thuggery as a pastor/member of Chris Embassy?

Remember that both Ateba and Rhodes were acting totally lawfully when taking pictures of Chris Embassy headquarters, a public place, from a public road!

Its nothing to be proud of. The press are obviously not happy with him , because he doesnt give them money. And doesn't grant them interview. Since they can't make money legally out of him,they use every other way to do it even illegal means. Such publications Hightower have provoked the security men. But from what he teaches about love. We should know he would not order such actions. If not for anything the press man can still be won to christ if he wasn't saved.

Security men have their own issues. They feel they are doing their job. One have to constantly remind them. "THIS  IS A CHURCH"

HOW DO I DEAL WITH SPIRITUAL INSTABILITY.

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So long as he order the structure and approves such letters ,it is by the spirit, it's a prayer.

I have recieved e mails and personal SMS . Of appreciation for certain contributions . I believe customise bulk SMS is sent to every partner right now. And e mail for some others.

The guy was not even in the main church. Pastor chris doesn't write letters, but there's a structure by which certain givings are acknowledged and appreciated  and prayed for. How many thousands of people will he be writing to. Just to append signatures is enough work for a busy person.

Every healing school partner receives a magazine monthly with their names inscribed on it. In administration such thing is common. It's customise personal to the individuals as much as possible.

The letter is sent randomly, just as SMS is sent randomly in acknowledgement for certain level of contribution . It is already programmed.

If criticism is Your cross , please carry it. We shall all appear before him.

. , and Jesus said unto them go YE into all the world and criticise , Criticise them in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit. . . .

Do you Attend a church?

aletheia:
I notice you no longer have the "liver" to directly address me and must always be making tangential references to my person.

Stop flattering yourself in fantasy, the bible says to avoid you, that's what I did. If you see a naked man with cutlass on the street won't you cross to the other side?

In refusing to return the stolen property after it was clearly established that they were stolen, Chris and the Christ Embassy cult committed a felony. . .no matter how your pack (and I use the word deliberately) tries to spin it.

Was the money chris oyakhilome s money? Did pastor chris know the man? was he in the branch pastor chris is? . False accusers don't look at facts. You're blinded by your ungodly passion for hate. Like a frustrated widow /wer. I'm not defending anything . I only want you guys to look at facts , lay your bias aside.

If you shout thief from morning to evening, it doesn't change the fact. If a man gives me a gift , maybe a car or television, and I learnt it was stolen . I don't need a preacher to tell me to return it. It is common sense to return it. But if a man gives to "God" offering , or if a man gives for a project like tv programme, orphanage ,and the money was used for such project. It's gone! Will you ask taxi man to return money, or the meat seller to return money because the buyer of the meat stole the money? It doesn't make sense. If he give to God he should go and ask God. If he gave for tv programme ,he should ask tv station to refund the money. Not pastor chris. It's not a personal gift . It didn't go to pastor chris personal account. He didn't know the guy. Any guy can contribute anything in church. The pastor has no business to stop them . He only teaches them the word . And pastor chris has taught several tines against criminality and tendencies. We can only have issues if pastor chris says it is scriptural to steal and claim "THE VIOLENT TAKE IT BY FORCE"

If such a refund is encouraged, what if someone shows up and claim he gave 2million 3 years ago in a church. And he's lying. If there's any wrong doing legally by the church, we have a law. It spares no one. If the law clears the church , so where is your one coming from? Take your animosity out of the way and look at facts.

Shey I don address you directly now.

frosbel:
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Do you think that Pastor Chris is closer to God than the ordinary members of the church

We all have equal access to God.

Do you not agree that the least member of the Christian church does not need any special revelation or word from God ?

I don't know what you mean by "special" we all need revelation

What they need is the spiritual milk of the word of God that he or she may grow thereby ?

milk is for babies. It's good for a period but after that you need stronger meat.

Hebrews 5:13
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

We do not need special men of God for there is no such thing as a special MOG.

What is this "special" you keep emphasising. I don't know about this your "special mog" but we do need Men of God. And frosbel, you need to have a pastor over you and you need to belong to a church.

In summary , I do not believe that Pastor Chris is more gifted than I am or has been specially called above me

Everyone is unique. John was just a signboard , to point people to the messiah and point the messiah to the people. But he is still unique. A man will receive reward in heaven for fulfilling his assignment in christ. So every one should focus in his own calling. We are all unique.

or anyone for that matter. We are all brethren if we are at all born again. To build a theology or doctrine around a man and not Christ is plain IDOL worship.

We are all brethren , but there is structure in the body of christ. There are ministers who are over others in the body of christ. A pastor is anointed over a congregation. We have other leaders also. And we must submit to them . In the body of christ you are either leading or following. If you're not leading or following you are a rebel to the word of God.

Hebrews 13:17
17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

frosbel:
Please read again and you will understand.

There is no such thing as special anointing in the body of Christ, period !!

Pastor Chris does not have any special anointing by any stretch of the imagination.

What do you mean by special anointing

@frosbel
I wish you can summarise these long writing and get straight to the point. Itemise your points for me.

aletheia:

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Bro frosbel: Do you now see clearly the motive underlying Jo's other thread on not naming names while exposing false prophets?

May God forgive you. You are a false accuser of the brethren. I don't have any motive. I only encourage Christians to play by the rules. Not your agbero lifestyle.

frosbel:
Are you avoiding my thread on anointing.  

I just came on board . I will check it now.

We have a task on this forum, to keep exposing the truth till you stop telling fables.

Yes I agree ,truth should be told.

mabell:
@aletheia
Ewo! You a medical personnel now quote laws
@ enigma,
You have gone into hiding as joagbajee said and given your nonsense posts to your boy alethia to use
It's a pity

Enigma didn't want to face the Shame. So he hid under the tables and started emailing venom vomiting "christian"? doctor
Today seem to be a bad day for their evil vices .

mabell:
Thrash

Real long empty trash as usual . So it's Him/her that finally surfaced from under the table  

Thats a disregard to the bible dude. Personal study doesn't take away the place of pastors and teachers.

Romans 12:7
7 If your gift is serving, then devote yourself to serving. If it is teaching, devote yourself to teaching.

They are warnings.a prophet sees things to come. That's one of the signs that confirms Gods  calling on a man. His word will not fall to the ground.

1 Samuel 3:19
19 Samuel grew; the Lord was with him and let none of his words fall to the ground.

What benefit was the prediction of Agabus to the body of christ?

Acts 11:28
28 And one of them named Agabus stood up and prophesied through the [Holy] Spirit that a great and severe famine would come upon the whole world. And this did occur during the reign of Claudius.

Barr rich:
Enigma
I really don't know if you are a lawyer, because if you were, I will say that you're not a fit and proper person to be called to the Nigerian bar. Thank you

He's A charge and bail.  . There is a difference between a real lawyer and the charge and bails who hangs around. The law profession is too honourable for the kinds of things he stands for on this site.

Thank you o jare.

Enigma:
^^ Look, when did you qualify as a lawyer?
Have you heard of 'receiving stolen goods'?
They did not teach you the distinction between that and Stealing (or Theft as we used to call it)?

You are on your own .Na you go dey  answer yourself . Case closed  

frosbel:
Not everyone who says he is a Christian is actually one. Apostle John said many deceivers have gone out into the world.
These are men worshippers not God worshippers, they love the praise of men more than the praise of God. We should always be on guard and use the bible as our standard.

Don't judge by sight, judge by the word and be open to hear other side because you may just be wrong.

@TONYE-t

Tonye-t:
You are getting yourself confused Sir!What has murder got to do with Pastor Chris ehn? Ok Rev. King had a case in the affirmative and it was very glaring under the law that this man should be tried and sadly he was found wanting on the accusations hence his awaiting prosecution.
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It is commonly known how the guy dodges questions and answer questions with questions. Typical of charge and bailers . He will try to derail the thread and divert attention to other irrelevant issues. Like another man's phd!

FULFILLED: OCTOBER CONFLICT BETWEEN PAKSTAN AND INDIA
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Have you watched the video? Kindly watch the video pls. It explains itself. He had made several predictions which have come to pass , some are yet to come to pass. He predicted the earthquake in the u.s.
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YET TO BE FULFILLED: INDIA AIRPORT
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