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kokaneprodigy:
This has nothing to do with the tactics deployed but the almighty Gabu.

If una don decide to Stan player nothing wey person no go read.

I'm saying he's part of the defence. We've seen Maguire and Mustafi mess up even though the tactics deployed is good. Put Maguire ystdy against us and Gabriel Jesus will use him for mincemeat with the way he played ystdy.

It's not about stanning, it's about being logical. It's just like someone saying Gabriel Jesus did not score ystdy but if na Giroud we go dey insult am. To me, we should move forward not backward and Mustafi was one of our worst defenders in recent times. We no fit use am compare anybody for this set at all

kokaneprodigy:
How many set pieces do we face in recent times, so it’s only Gabriel that defends against the set pieces?

We faced over 100 corners last season and only conceded our first corner against tottenham around May. I don't want to talk about the freekicks in dangerous places we faced last season and conceded less.

And no, Gabriel is not the only one that defends set pieces but he's one of the defenders so he deserves the credit too

And please I'm not condemning Lokonga saying he had a bad game ystdy. No!!
I'm just saying his defense frailties was exposed ystdy as Ten Haag smartly capitalised on it

neztar:
how do you sleep at nite supporting arteta and arsenal?

same way I feel at night when I know I'm ontop of the table

kokaneprodigy:
I look like Ruger to you?

BlueRayDick:
You know my guy iamoyindamola love Mustafi; it’s not even like but “love”

Lol... I see

kokaneprodigy:
Y’all are not getting my point.
Being faced with pressure maybe once or twice in 90 mins and he’s found wanting.
Do you think this guy would have done better under Emery ball with Guen Xhaka and Willock in midfield where the defense was constantly under pressure?
Considering y’all prop him an upgrade.

Yes, he would have done. I have confidence in this defence compared to Emery's time. Good in air, hardly beaten and assured of the ball. And Gabriel is part of that defence. Another thing is that we rarely concede set pieces which was very very likely during Emery and Wenger's time.

Gabriel might have his flaws but e no reach Mustafi own abeg.

If you notice after the first 8-10 mins of the game when Man u was in control, arsenal did collective defending till we were able to get ourselves, regain possession and dominate proceedings. From then on the press was too much as immediately man u win the ball, we'll so press them(hats out to our front 3) that they'll punt the ball upfield looking for either Rashford or Antony but our defence always deal with it cleanly. All these while we were playing highline oo.

It was going well until Ten Haag spotted a weak spot (the DM zone) which I'll outline in pointers.

1.. The first goal — Man u regains possession, arsenal pressed, instead of punting it long as they normally do for fear of mistake, Eriksen drifted wide and the pass was made to him. Bruno quickly ran into the DM zone (zone between the last Midfield to our defence) which was already free as Sambi was no where to be found. Eriksen one time ball to Bruno and we have 3 against 3 Bruno Sancho and Rashford against White, Gabriel and Saliba. Gabriel engaged Bruno, fouled him in order to prevent any attack from becoming serious but the ball unfortunately fell to Sancho who did a one time pass to Rashford. Zinchenko now back covered up for Gabriel which made Antony free because he made a late run into the box and the goal happened. DM exposed which Bruno capitalised on the zone.


2.. The 2nd goal.— arsenal was on the ascendency. Lokonga lost the ball high up the pitch, immediately, Bruno again ran into that pocket of space again(the DM zone) and laid a fine through pass for Rashford to run into.

As for the 3rd goal sef, I no even understand the tactics as I felt Arteta undid his nice tactics with that 3 subs at once. He panicked!!!!. It's also surprising we didn't move to 352 as we did against Fulham probably because Arteta didn't trust Sambi to be positionally aware defensively to screen the defence when Man u would want to counter attack as we would be more exposed compared to our 433.

Ten Haag found the space to exploit us and it worked well(running into that DM zone). I just hope other teams to find out this template and use it against us but I won't bet against it. Everton match would be an eye to keep on

Spy360

kokaneprodigy:
It’s not one loss, he’s be doing this from the season he signed, he has done it this season as well in at least two fixtures.

he was solely at fault in last week game and everybody blamed him. But using ystdy game to beat him with it is very very unfair

BlueRayDick:
I just weak jare.

What they are doing is like Man utd fans who stan Maguire waiting for Varane to commit an error and then start slating him. The thing dey somehow, I for no talk but the fact they were silent when we were having it good only to come out with agenda after one loss just doesn't sit down well with me

Lol, na so na. I wasn't surprised for Kokane own because I knew him don dey cook am since. Na iamoyin.damola own surprise me

Spy360:
If you have ever managed people before you will know that people are not the problem but the system or the structure. Fix the system and every component will align. Those that won't align will be naturally eliminated by the structure. That's why players like Pepe, AMN, Torriera etc can't play for Arteta. They are good players but don't fit into the system.

What I am saying is this. The team was playing well and having the majority of ball possession which led to equalising. By equalising it means that the home team will push more men forward and increase their press because they want to restore their lead as they are playing at home. The sensible thing to do against such a top team is to set them up by pulling them out of their low defensive block. This will in turn expose their defense line and even make it easier to score more knowing that we were already dominating possession.

Had we done this we would have beaten them black and blue honestly. We had them on their throats. They scored the second out of nothing.

Lokonga and Xhaka were the cause of this. But I blame Arteta who as the manager did not provide the right system or structure or mentality to manage the game at that point. Why I am not holding Lokonga is because he is inexperienced and wants to impress, but someone like Xhaka should have called him to order.

Blaming Lokonga is like blaming a child who wants to please his father by carry 5glass cups at a time instead of one and ends up breaking the cups. Someone should have asked him to do it the simple way.

Tbh, all what you said here it's same thing we've been saying but somehow you just have to skew to absolve Lokonga.

For one you said "people are not the problem but the system", when in actual its the opposite. There's a reason why we did away with them Pepe sokratis, Leno and co because obviously the people was the problem to the system Arteta wanted to deploy. What is a system if the right people can't carry it out effectively.

You said you won't blame Lokonga because he was trying to impress but we that saw his game know that ystdy performance have been coming since, it just exploded ystdy. I talked about him positionally poor defensively, weak defensively and anytime we are on an attack, he was always susceptible as the base 6. You didn't agree as you always said he's always there not to defend but to keep possession. You always defend him anytime I bring up his defensive frailties by always saying it's all the team's job to defend. Now you're blaming highline. I would only blame highline if it's from defence or deep a deep Midfielders punt the ball straight to Rashford to score his two goals but it didn't happen. Infact, I'll break down exactly what Ten Haag did in the next post and tag you

eph12:
I can remember mctom running into traffic and losing the ball a couple of times, heaven didn't fall. The team got together to win the ball back. But una no want awilo to rest. I vote you play him everyday and twice on Sunday, the boy got potentials

it's not about giving away the ball. Lokonga hardly gave away the ball ystdy sef aside for the 2nd goal which was punished.

I don't have any problem giving away the ball especially if it's not at a dangerous place. The issue I have with Lokonga was leaving him DM duties to go play attack which you guys capitalised on well. For all the ball Mctominay lost ystdy, he was never found wanting defensively

adebayo201:
I go tear your face

Lol, but wetin I do na.?
Me wey no even make mouth

iamoyindamola:
The saka I know is more than this
If we continue managing his mediocre he won't improve
Even rolan.d17 admit to his below performance

He's not mediocre to the extent that he should be dropped. He just only looks jaded towards end of matches unlike the Saka I know before and that I see as accumulated fatigue.

But in terms of in-game performances, he and the two Gabriel are one of the best. And as for ystdy match, he was the best attacker after Gabriel Jesus in the front 3. Another thing is that White didn't even help him ystdy attackingly yet he still played well.

If anybody not called Saka put the display Saka Is dishing is this season, we would have been he hailing him by now

BlueRayDick:
He’s out of form and had 2 assists prior to yesterday’s match . Oya tell me who will fit into an out-of-fine Sana’a shoes if already had 3 xGA in 6 matches . Like this is Bukayo saka we are talking about and not Willian o.

Coach wey dey use am no be mumu na . I’d it’s goals u are looking for , it will surely come in due time. For now he’s playing well, even better than most wingers of our competitors. I see no reason for dropping him cos he remains a potent threat on that right wing for any defender .

Facts!!
One of the best in the league. He hardly drop below 5.0 rating (maybe aside crystal palace match) so I don't even know the nonsense people are claiming that he's playing. It just tells us the high standard guys have placed on him forgetting that he's even a very young boy.

This season, I'm yet to see any right winger in his position that is impressive the way he has been. Not that he's at his very best sef but he's not dishing out nonsense

BlueRayDick:
Oya go and terminate Gabriel’s contract and bring Back Mustafi and co na. Shebi after they all left arsenal they went ahead to become
World beaters….. Shey ?

Like they didn’t use egg to pelt two of them
From their clubs after successfully relegating them .

Una go dey watch match with agenda . We’ve played 6 matches and only lost 1, but the moment we lost that 1 it’s Gabriel that needs to nailed to the cross. You didn’t see Lokonga’s recklessness and how it bit us hard …. U didn’t see how Ramsdale nearly caused a goal , u didn’t see the entire midfield going to sleep….. It’s Gabriel’s fault , he should’ve turned octopus to use his 8th leg to trap the ball.

Of the two CB’s Gabriel was rated highest yesterday , but no …. Na Gabriel cause the defeat

Lol, I no even expect Gabriel agenda Tbh.

I mean, how will someone compare Gabriel and Mustafi. Mustafi wey dey cause palpitations once he hold ball. Mustafi wey na him be the forerunner of Maguire na him dem dey use Gabriel compare?

This thing called agenda sha

iamoyindamola:
Errors leading to goal already 2 and season just start
Highest mustafi ever did in a season is 2
You need more stats

Are you serious??
Are you joining Kokane to bash Gabriel as if most of us didn't watch Mustafi?

Mustafi that's like Maguire senior brother naim you dey compare with Gabriel?

Abeg boss, make we no go there. Make e no be like say na because of one loss we go wan turn on our players unnecessarily

iamoyindamola:
I said this but blue.raydick disagree
That boy have been serving us nothing but nonsense

I don't agree to this sha. He needs rest because towards the end of the game (and some games this season), he looks jaded but aside that he's been one of our best attackers.

Ystdy he was even better than Martinelli even sef, against Aston Villa he was also very good.
If these performances he normally gives us what is nonsense, then maybe we have some sort of Messi in our hands that I don't know.

I mean, he's been one of the best wingers in EPL and why he's not been at his very best like last season, he's been dropping at least 6.5 this season

iamoyindamola:
Omo you get time sha
Now you have given them attention
They have been roaming aimlessly since

Lol, if I no talk, that picture for dey as big evidence say Lokonga stamp person yet Var turned a blind eye.

Na so agenda wey dey cook dey start

Spy360:
The bolded and the second paragraph contradict themselves. Besides what sort of question is that in a football match?

In managing a match you know when to play high and when to fall back a little. We pushed to high with much at stake. But we learn every day.

All these things you're saying is you giving excuses just because someone couldn't carry out his job correctly.

Blame where the issue that broke down the structure, not the structure itself.

Two things killed us ystdy
1..Finishing off good chances created.
2..Someone not knowing his role in which Man u capitalised on.

If we done these two correctly, na you for they hype both Arteta, arsenal as well as Lokonga. But since we don lose, you just have to blame the structure

Roland17:
For the longest time I have been harping on our over reliance on Saka and the unbelievable amount of consecutive games he has played for us.

Worse still is the fact that he is playing all 90 minutes or more than 80 minutes in these consecutive games. There are games he looks jaded afterwards and unable to stay up.

Sadly, we are short on the RW so Arteta will continue to play him until he breaks down or we begin to see a consistent decline in performance because of burnout. I guess Nelson was supposed to be his cover but he is injured so it just makes everything worse.

I know how I lamented here when we weren't able to get Saka deputy. For Partey's, I understand since they wanted to use Elneny as his back up, but allowing Pepe to go without any plans for backup is criminal. The kind of minutes this guy is amassing at such a young age in a demanding position, I just pray one injury doesn't break him down

daveP:
He still needs that rest. Factory reset, if at all we want him firing from the cylinders and Vials. Burnout is already looking obvious despite the coming tops vs Malacia

Truly he needs rest sha. I don't just know who'll replace him

Lana1:
We didn't talk about it because we dont moan about refs and VAR every blessed day unlike the fans of certain London clubs.

Unlike you guys, we understand that the use of VAR has been inconsistent and will fúck each and every team.

Of course, when decision dey always favor Una, wetin deh to talk about. Even to even talk about the violent foul, nobody talked about it, but it reach Malacia turn wey Saka do am, na that time Una find Una voice.

Var Fvcks every team up.... Except man u.
I understand why Una no dey ever complain, EPL favoured child

Ellexy:
Lol at least I have pictures for now, bring counter proof not just word of mouth

I just scanned you guys thread. Not one, I mean one person talked about this foul as a red card when the match was ongoing.

Like I said, you and La.na just wan do agenda. Anybody wey watch that match know say that can never be a red card

Ellexy:
Lol at least I have pictures for now, bring counter proof not just word of mouth

I no Sabi make gif sha. This your agenda no go sell

Shegzdave:
Spy Na one funny guy, him guy defensive errors was exposed and him begin turn Amala

I don dey notice say him don dey learn dis Amala turning for some time now

Shegzdave:
Tbh, Saka needs rest but the question is who is available?
Please don’t call Vieira or Marquinhos.

God knows I won't call these two people.
I'll never get hyped up on Marquinhos until I see him doing it in Europa consistently so at least till Dec before I'll even consider him or not.
Viera, with his style of play can't play Wing at all. Saka go really die for that wing sha, I just hope him no get injury cos this club don't really put am for serious situation as dem no provide am quality backup

daveP:
FT: #MUN 3-1 #ARS

THE TRUTHS:
- Odegaard romances the ball too much
- Sancho must get more involved
- Saka needs rest
- White can't play WB/RB
- Rashford - reborn
- Gabriel needs factory reset
- Eriksen is a steal
- Bruno - Mr effective
Martinelli's decision making is poor
- Ronaldo still needed.
- McTominay was tidy

Arsenal brought back to reality

#copied

Looks almost accurate.

To be honest, I don't know what you guys think of Saka but I feel he had a nice game. Dealt with Malacia well and was always on the move

Ellexy:
Agenda or not, on the attached image below, so na balance Awilo dey find with him right leg with that posture?

Bring a gif not a picture let's judge.
You could clearly see the ball is already at the 2nd leg(left leg) meaning he's won the ball. Bring a gif that supports that it was a stamp move

adebayo201:
Me to Jodera talking nonsense

I'll never blame Arteta for today's tactics. We were spot on, we dominated, we created chances. The only issue was Lokonga but then with such a performance against Aston Villa, he deserved the chance so I won't blame him much.

Another issue was converting chances created. Before this gameweek matches, Arsenal was the highest in terms of XG even higher than Man city but if you look at goals scored this season, Man city have more goals than us. I complained about us not taking our clean chances and today it reared its ugly head again. Saliba missed a clean chance, Saka had a clean chance to shoot but decide to pass to Odegaard who was even at a harder position sef (I dunno for what reason). This is just first half oo. Second half, Odegaard missed a very very clean chance when presented to him by Gabriel Jesus good work. All these at the top of my head I can remember .

While I acknowledge the vast improvement in this team, we need to be ruthless in killing games wen presented with opportunities

Shegzdave:
Spy and his oversabi tactics
Be like we go appoint am as assistant coach since he don know Arteta tactics pass am ..
But for real, how will someone say arsenal doesn’t use DM because Partey is good offensively and defensively?
Oga spy, we suppose flog you for seven market days
Na joke I dey ooo

Lol... That bolded is funny die

No mind spy, Today wey dem capitalise on his boy defensive frailties, na that time him know say na Arteta deh at fault and we no suppose dey use highline. Highline wey we get 3 good positionally sound and fast CBs ooo. Highline wey deh make us pressure utd and make us win ball high up the pitch which is what we were always doing effectively. The only zones that caused those goals was that DM zone and someone like Elneny would snuff those ball out. I don't want to even go a notch higher in calling Partey sef.