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Spy360:
So why is he now on the bench despite doing his "primary" duty?

The implication of Jota benching him is because part of his primary duty is to score goals.

I told you na, he dropped form.
I asked a question, why didn't klopp sign a Jota if he was that bad for 4yrs?
He's been signing other departments except the CF role

Spy360:
You are asking for too much. Give him minutes to grow into the team.

That's the thing, we don't have that time to give him now. We don't have that luxury. Except of course Laca gets injured

If he wants it now, he needs to do the extraordinary

Spy360:
I do not consider Firmino as a bad player. In fact I see him as good.

He fitted in well with the type of player Klopp wanted. The tactics needed someone to press from the front as well as drag the CB away from the FB so that either Salah or Mane can run in between the lines. He did that job well and it helped boosted Salah and Mane as well as helping Liverpool wins trophies.

But Jota scores goals and no matter how we want to consider it, it becomes a huge decisive factor in the choice of a CF between both players

Thank you for all you've said about Firmino, that's exactly what I'm talking about in what all you said

As for the bolded, it's a reason why I'll choose Jota ahead of firmino cos aside from doing what firmino does, he still add goals. Does that make firmino a bad player? No
But obviously Jota is better than him.

Juxtapose it with Laca and you'll notice I want a better player than Laca and not just replacing Laca with anybody.

50d33q:
So what importance is he when he's failing in his primary duty
Let's use arsenal case, if saka or martinelli or ESR or odegaard don't score we will be in trouble because our CF can't help us.
Salah and mane ain't scoring Jota is now their sole dependant of goals if na firminho klopp would have given up

He was doing his primary duty which was link up play and act as a false 9. If klopp really need a firing 9, he would have benched him for Origi who was a better goal scorers than him.

Klopp primary duty for firmino is different from what you're expecting from him

50d33q:
Shebi Jota is a CF why is Jota scoring more than firminho

because he's better than him

raumdeuter:
Flick + Naggelsman = Luis Enrique

Tuchel + Klopp = Pep (change even remain)

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This one funny

Spy360:
Balogun is doing better than how ESR did on loan. I am assuming, all things being equal he will be a big hit.

As for Nketiah, he needs playing time honestly. It's sad he couldn't go on loan which would have helped him a lot. I see potentials of a goal poacher in him. I would keep him for at least two more years or better send him on loan to Championship or lower PL side.

I've not watched him but from few reviews I've read about him on his loan in Boro, he's having mixed campaign. I know how I dey hear ESR name even right from Huddersfield.

One thing with Nketiah is that he needs to grab his opportunities and grab it well. He's seeing at least 5-10min averagely and while that's small but if he really want to usurp Laca this season, he needs to be scoring goals even with that minute. Even his plays sef doesn't even inspire fans here
Martinelli did it, ESR did it, Saka did it.

You saw the way Willock became fan favourite by coming off the bench and scoring winning goals even with few minutes he had that made Newcastle cough out £23m for his signing, na wetin we need from Nketiah be that

Spy360:
Why do you think Jota is benching him?

I've already said it(I think at Chelsea thread) that firmino dropped massive form after they carried champions League. His passes was erratic, his play was insipid (even in their title winning campaign). Klopp have to buy Jota to compete with him since he doesn't fancies Origi(who himself have a better goal ratio than firmino sef)

Jota who wasn't a striker at wolves blended at Liverpool too and added goals to his repertoire as well as doing what firmino knows how to do best

The question you'll ask is, why did it take up to 4yrs to replace firmino if he was that bad? Why wait till after they're UCL and PL champions?

Spy360:
Are you sure this is coming from your mind

Lol... Sure

Even if na 6months extension sef, no way.
We need far better than him to go to the next level, reason why I no dey even reason Nketiah/balogun side for him replacement

FirstbornWds:
Klopp doesn't cancel Pep abeg. He's great but definitely hasn't won more silverwares than Pep since that's your basic for judging.

Hansi Flick + Nagelsman combined, will have to battle Lucho here sef.

I didn't say klopp is greater than Pep. Make your blood calm down

From what I know it's a team faceoff not who is greater than who.

Once in a team faceoff the first thing to look out for is greatest achievement amongst the contenders and both Pep and klopp have both achievements reason why I said pep cancels klopp(or klopp cancels Pep, anyone)

50d33q:
The guy like activity kinda CF like firminho and lacazette those 2 cants outscore each other if they are competing together

The thing is, hardly you'll see any Liverpool fan (both online and offline) call firmino this.
I noticed people who bash firmino are non-liverpool fans who hardly watch their matches.

BlueRayDick:
My guy get genuine love for Lacazette

If Na like this men and women dey love each other nowadays , divorce no go dey at all

Lol ..
Me wey beginning of this season I want make dem sell Lacazette sef.

Genuine love ke!

raumdeuter:
You mean Pep cancels Klopp + Tuchel

for where??

Such a thing like this, we'll look at the winners first esp UCL, league and domestic cups in that order . If all candidates have all achievements in common, then the next best thing Is to look at is how many each coaches won.

As far as that team Spain Is concerned Arteta and Xavi Don spoil everything

Ihebu4chelsea:
okay, I will win the champions league again

Toh,.. Good for you

Godx:
You should be asking yourself that question. So if Nagelsmann wins the league and champions league this season with Bayern then he automatically becomes a big boy in management or when Di Matteo won the champions league with Chelsea he became a big boy in management? Mr man longevity and dominance in management is what makes you a big boy. If Guardiola is sacked today and his assistant leads Man city to win the Champions and league trophy he will still remain a small boy in management. That's basically Flick entire coaching career till now.

Actually if Guardiola is sacked now and his assistant goes on to win the treble in a dominant fashion, he instantly becomes a big boy.
Winning treble esp in dominant fashion no be beans

raumdeuter:
Team Spain 3 CL, 2 Trebles
Team Germany 3 CL, 1 Treble

Team Spain 11 League titles
Team Germany 6 League titles

How does Pep and Klopp cancel each other? 1 CL 3 League suddenly cancels 2 CL 9 Leagues

So the Xavi and Arteta are carry-along coaches in team Spain abi?

Pep and klopp cancels each other out since they're both champions League winners and domestic league/cup winners.

Spy360:
Are you trying to bring me into this matter?

I still dey wait you for corner.
Shey na 10 matches remain till season finish?

Spy360:
Help me tell am say Laca won't get a new contract...

If Lacazette renew sef, I go no say arsenal no serious

Ihebu4chelsea:
oga. We don't have any business with Arsenal... If you like win all your remaining matches.

if you like lose all your remaining matches

BlueRayDick:
Window to go do what ? To collect small breeze ?

The way some Chelsea fans still dey look Liverpool eh, you'll think Liverpool are not topping them with 10points.

They're forgetting that if they lose a match and arsenal win na only 2points go separate Chelsea with arsenal

BlueRayDick:
Any intelligent player would’ve won the ball and do the same thing Auba did. It was just a normal ball that required one touch pass to Smith Rowe who was on the break. If u say Lacazette would’ve held on too much to the ball , I may not argue with u.... his reputation precedes him on that

True that.
I might defend Laca but even me can't be blind that we're really need more in that striking department. It's such a shame Nketiah can't take such opportunity with both hands and force his ways into Arteta plans before season runs out

Godx:
Calm down. The only men in team Germany are Klopp and maybe Tuchel. Hansi flick and Nagelsmann are still small boys in management.

Actually, I'm looking at achievement each of the coaches had.

Hansi Flick have won a treble. Tuchel have won league in Ligue 1, ucl and some other domestic and European trophies(across Germany and England if I'm not mistaken). These two achievements from the duo already makes them better than xavi and Arteta that team Spain are bringing forth.

Klopp cancels out guardiola while Enrique finishes nagelsmann(whom I believe is the only small boy in that group of Men )

You can bring up your points to counter mine if you think team Spain are better

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Na the biased response you just drop so

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BlueRayDick:
It’s Lacazette’s inability to score that is killing our vibe, not lack of aerial threat.

Arsenal for years now has not relied on scoring with nodding , neither have our keepers been known to launch long balls as goalkicks which strikers are expected to contest upfront. In fact, out of the 68 goals Auba scored for arsenal I doubt he scored up to 10 with his head sef.

All this kind backdoor u dey take snuggle Lacazette into better striker discussion, we won’t take it

Actually, I'm not finding leeway for Lacazette, I'm just solely focused on the team. While I agree Laca lack of goals are killing our vibe, but most times the team do take this long route to evade pressure and Laca falls flat in winning those kind of ball. I remember our 2nd goal in NLD in which Auba scored from. The outball from Tierney was what Auba won from by laying it along ESR path. A Laca wouldn't have won that ball. Just a plan b in case of turns of event and that's another thing we truly lack upfront when retaining pressure

Izurejoice:
What do guys make of this. He does not seem to me as an out and out striker, which i think is what we need

Except we'll want to buy another striker to compete with him too. I'll need a striker who's also good aerially, this lack of aerial threat from Lacazette is really killing our vibe and I don't want to go through this again and I don't think lautaro is good at that too

timbros:
Team Spain vs Team Germany

Which one are you?

I know say our responses go dey biased.

Lol, this is just like upcoming boys Vs Men dem!

Everyone in team Germany have won at least a champions League (bar one) while everyone is a league winner too.

Same can't be said for team Spain

50d33q:
The mofos wan give me heart attack

Lol.. all those kinda news I no dey ever believe am till I see am for upto 4-5 different outlets.


No be me one site go give hbp abeg

Spy360:
Based on history, 70points should be enough. Not that I would mind more though.

Hmmm... Fingers crossed sha

50d33q:
Make I go destroy that stupid ig page
I they quick vex

Spy360:
This is the point where we need to keep focus. The whole team must be focused and have a sense of urgency.

70-74points should be OK for top 4 and we just need 16-20points to get there from our remaining 10matches. At most 6 wins and 2 draws. We can make it.

Tbh, I think the least point we should be aiming is 74 points not even 70.

From 74-78points should be our target. Tottenham have one of the easiest fixtures amongst us and I don't trust Conte one bit

Leyqute:
Wayne Rooney always starts. He’s the ultimate strike partner.

Henry starts too cos of ability.

Kun on the bench.

Drogba binned until he learns how to score more than 10 league goals per season on the average.

Start =Henry and Rooney
Bench = Drogba
Sell = Aguero (mostly because he was injury prone)

Izurejoice:
Arteta picks the manager of the month for march, his second for this season.

Wow, congratulations to Arteta. He really really deserved.