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Why is saka and martinelli playing at wrong positions?

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iamoyindamola:
Ladies and gentlemen
Xhakaboom is back
I repeat xhakaboom is back




We are in for it

Laca, Xhaka and Tierney martinelli starts!!
Lol


Welcome back Xhaka

daveP:
Henry meant that its shameful subbing off the origin of ginger. A captain can be subbed off when he's done a great job and thats the norm. So subbing off a captain is indirectly a testament to how poor things have been which Arteta isn't ready to notice right now.

If he isn't inspiring enough, snatch off the armband off him and put in on someone that will ginger the team.


I think we are the only 3rd team in EPL that has their attacker as Captain. Most are defenders and Midfielders. Just saying.


Whatever angle is read, Henry is right. He's more or less the spokesman for the Trio of himself, Vierra, and Bergie. Those guys hang out often.


Pires on the other hand is wrong. But Arsenal still need defenders. If any of two CBs injure, hope you know we got no exact replacement?


Tactical, we need the tip of a diamond middle cos its lacking. So defenders can wait for now. The Alexis is needed. If he is going to be the peak of our attack danger, i don't mind. Emirates need an Alexis again.


An Alexis and Ramsey.

Lol... There have been so many instances when a captain is subbed off. This isn't the first a captain will be subbed off during a game and neither is it the first time a striker who is subbed in match. I dunno where Henry is driving at but everyone who watched that match knows that auba body language in that match was poor. His halfhearted press, his poor shots and all. Why he is pointing finger at Arteta for subbing auba (who even missed a great chance sef) is what I don't understand.

As for the bolded, I really don't understand what you mean by that. So you mean Arteta should just take off auba captain band and give it to someone else, just because "he isn't inspiring enough"?? Not even because of attitude problem or sort, but because he's not inspiring enough. I have never heard of anything like that in any club no matter what. Even xhaka that was stripped off the armband was because of disrespect to the club and fans and not for anything called inspiration. In fact, even if a captain is no longer in starting eleven, hardly do I see that captain stripped off the armband, how much more Auba. I assure you, the day Arteta will try such is the day he should start counting his days at Emirates.

As for your last point, I agree with you. We need a Sanchez type winger and a striker. Even tho na saint Maximin make him just dey create chances for us. Any talk of defender should be a dead talk abeg, even if one of Gabriel or white go injury, make holding or chambers take over. Na why dem be sub and dem dey train.

iamoyindamola:
The fact that we are least scoring in top6 and struggle in scoring should be an headache especially if gd will eventually come in play

This should be on the coach and not because our players are missing chances. That should be what our coach is suppose to be working on not thinking of parking the bus.
Na only us go sack coach come lower the bar. This is Arteta 2nd full season yet na still top 6 we dey drag for. Tomorrow if dem sack Arteta, our focus will now be to be a mid table team

Spy360:
What was the target before the start of the season?

Well, yours may be different but officially it was to get back to Europe which is a top 6 target. Whether we eventually win the league or not becomes an added bonus.

By the way which squad is good enough for top4? The one you just posted up there that is 19th in creativity and needs more attackers?

Stay straight. Don't be gay man.

Just to mention, I find it funny how you guys can't get the actual meaning of top 4 or whatever. For clarification, it means from 1st to 4th or as the case may be. Does not necessarily mean 4th or below. Na wa o.

The target before the start of the season is to get back to UCL, especially as we have no European commitment this season.

So because we're 19th in big chance created now means we can't improve or it suddenly means we're so bad?. Leeds, Burnley and Newcastle are higher up the table than us on that, I guess they've better players than us? Na wa to you oo

Top 4 is first to 4th, but there are a lot of teams vying for that 4th position. We all know that 1st-3rd is on lockdown leaving that 4th spot up for grabs only. I don't know how you'll say we shouldn't compete for the 4th spot with Leicester, man u, west Ham and Tottenham. Na wa oo

Let us keep lowering the bar you hear, in no distant time na relegation go be our realistic target.

Spy360:
I am being realistic. Like I said, by the end of the last TW, our target was not to finish top 4. Please understand the meaning of target. My prayer is to even win the league but as far as targets are concerned, if one is going to be realistic then it's to finished at least 6th.

To be honest, as germa.phobe said, someone who's target in top4 will be more serious than someone who's target is top 6. I remember during Wenger's time, once we're first or 2nd, even if we lose the next three matches, the players wouldn't be bothered cos they're within the top 4 range, immediately they know their top 4 is in danger, they don't mind winning anybody even if you bring barca at camp nou. That's how ambitious they cherish top4. If this players target top6, even if top 4 dey up for grabs, they wouldn't be ambitious to grab the spot, as long as they're not below 5th or 6th.

And one thing I know is that this squad is okay to target for top4 not top6. Yes, we might not get top 4, but that doesn't mean it isn't realistic for this squad to compete for top 4. Aside our back 5, the midfield and attack have been together for more than a year, and it's not as if the back 5 are a kind of shambles sef

Spy360:
Scoreline, ball possession, shots on goal, shots on target, no of tackles, no of interceptions etc aren't activity my brother. They are records of productivity. What do you put on your CV? If you can't provide stats of your performances no employer will take you.

At the bolded, isn't that question reasonable? Unless it's for tactical reasons, there is no justification benching your most prolific player.

You see why I said you are looking at activity not productivity?

Lol, I guess Henry follow watch livescores too cos I don't see how anyone who watched that match will Still blame Arteta for removing Auba. Auba proved that day certainly wasn't his day, so why shouldn't he be subbed? I guess because it's Henry that said it, so you expect me to lap it all up as the gospel fact. Kole werk!!! . Same way pires is saying we need more defenders even after being 19th in chances created, creating single digit in big chance created from matchday 1-14 and having one of the fewest goals in the league. Lol

Stop comparing stats with CV, cos it's not that straightforward. Every football fans and even analyst knows that stats truly don't paint the full picture of a game, reason why it's advisable to watch match alongside using stats. I just showed you stats of arsenal match against man u and if you just look at that stats solely, you'll feel arsenal played man u well and was unfortunate to lose. But if you read comments on both threads, you'll find out that day that man u fans in their thread where quite happy with their play and pressing while arsenal fans here were moaning and complaining about our play (even while we were leading 1-0 sef). This is totally different from the stats results I displayed when I showed kokane

Except of course you'll say we wey dey both threads no know how to watch ball again

afrodoc2:
This kind person fit kill himself if after being the “perfect” man to a woman she still cheats on him.

It’s like a woman thinking if she is the perfect woman her man won’t cheat on her.

Those kind people dey suffer pass heartbreak. More like heart failure or heart attack.

Na this kain post C.Ronaldo suppose dey reply Factos!

daveP:
Na Arteta Remember. Laca go play na. But na Nketiah go do 9. Dey watch.

lol.. The way I'm seeing it, it'll be lacazette and odegaard if we wanna do that 442

daveP:
So na Nketiah go replace Auba when Afcon start?

Lol.. What happened to lacazette?

kokanepyramid:
When was the last time our target was to win the title?, we've been rebuilding since moving to the Emirate stadium. Even the twin towers didn't take that long to rebuild.

Then top 4 was the target, now it's top 6 aren't you seeing the trend here?

Very soon, na to avoid relegation remain

Havertz10:
there is nothing to be disappointed there, everything can be explained and understood, even social constructs and their concepts. before you get all picky with me, show a woman my piece and listen to her take on my assertions, funny that its men that are being dismissive of the logic because they dont want to realize that relationships requires work particularly on the part of men

we are talking about a society with a growing number of women that are educated, financially independent, self aware and very opinionated, as a man, if you think you can still rest on the basis that our fathers used of just marrying her, providing basics and forming boss to keep her at home then you are not ready for whats coming

Oga, any woman wey wan cheat go cheat on you. And they'll still blame it on you for being too nice/not being too nice, for always be there for her/not always there for her, stress from work and you're not noticing and other flimsy excuses. If you think you a man can be enough for 10 ladies, how much more one(as you bluntly put it), you need to wear another thinking cap again.

It's funny how you want king.Alabi to show a lady your piece to seek your validation. Women that are emotional beings that most of them no get one answer. Lmao!!

Spy360:
We are currently 5th. Remember that the pre-season target was a top 6 finish. Make Una stop to do like say we dey target title.

So we are out of Europe just to settle for top 6 now? Why is it that we can't compete for top 4, or are you just deliberately setting the standard low??

Spy360:
Exactly jare.

Same thing they are now saying about Aubameyang. As if we have better replacement. By the time he leaves for AFCON, and they realise we don't have striker they will be wishing he returns fast.

Hope by then, you won't start saying Jo.dera was among those who wished auba should never start again for arsenal. After all, na only man u match I did say he should warm bench and I was clear about it.

Spy360:
That is why Arteta loves Xhaka. He covers the LB whenever he overlaps. Most of us here don't appreciate this. When I said for now Xhaka is the best partner for Partey, the likes of Jodera will be typing 'LoL' for me.

Lol... Spy spy, you don come again

My point have always been clear here. While I want Xhaka sold and replaced due to his limitations and error proneness sometimes, I still know he's our best bet in that midfield alongside partey. I want an experienced player to take over not all these small small boys. Reason why I'm always talking about bissouma.

Na me still talk for this season that we've had at least almost a good midfield domination with xhaka alongside partey this season(against Tottenham) and that he'll be needed back even tho I know I like lokonga.

Spy360:
What you see is activity. What stats tell you is productivity. You will know this if you know science.

Lol... I think you're mixing it both ways
What I see is productivity, what stats tell me is activity. For example, pepe can take a lame shot at goal, what stats will tell you is that pepe have a shot on target (activity), but me I know that such a shot can never yield to goal on any normal circumstances (productivity).

It's the reason why one needs to dey watch match and see wetin dey sup instead of just looking at livescores.

It's also the big reason why I was against auba starting against man u even tho he was our joint top highest goalscorer going into the game. Stats will tell you I'm crazy for saying such(how can you bench your highest goalscorer and striker for that matter going into a big game), but football watchers will see the point I'm making.

At the end of the day, auba was hauled off even tho we were looking for an equaliser(something that hasn't been done this season) and he was also the most criticised player after the match.

KingAlabi:
Let's agree to disagree because me I no go gree Sha, the goal really went against anything fair play.

Okay boss

afrodoc2:
I am not blaming the ref for not blowing. I am just giving you a scenario that would have ensued if the roles were reversed. People would have been claiming PDP
And when i say people I don’t mean you in particular but someone like your B.S prodigy that the other day was shamelessly and shamefully lying that Fergie did not win anything at tangible before Howard Webb when the fact is that Fergie was more successful before Howard Webb.

And yes that ref is a Chelshit homer and anti-Utd.

Oh... The way you asked me all those three questions ystdy, you won't blame me for thinking you're blaming the ref for the goal.

As for the ref being an anti-man u fan, he didn't show it. I just wished he did tho, at least he wouldn't have given that penalty

kokanepyramid:
You don't owe these scummies any explanation, let em go and die if they've got problems with the goal.

Lol.. They all agreed that de gea acted like a sissy ystdy, yet they still blame the ref for not blowing? With the way they're going about it, someone will think the ref didn't cancel the goal and that if not that we're in var era that goal wouldn't have really stood.

Makes me wonder if the ref blew the whistle before the ball crossing the line, it would mean anything if not to just deny arsenal their legitimate goal.

afrodoc2:
Even in VAR Era the ref usually stops the game immediately an outfield player has a head injury OR immediately a goalkeeper has an injury of any sort.
Who injured who is not usually taken into consideration. Most refs would have blown the whistle BEFORE the ball crossed the line immediately they saw the keeper down.

Most refs that is apart, from a known anti-Man Utd Leeds-raised man like Atkinson. Even clear penalty that happened right in front of him he waved play on until VAR forced him to have look. But then again you guys only collate list of pro-United refs.

The issue here is, the ref didn't see de gea down until the last minute when ESR shot the ball. If he'd seen him before that time, I'm sure he would have blown. What difference does it make for a ball crossing the line or not if not to stop arsenal goal if really it had nothing to do with arsenal as it happened ystdy. I mean, this guy blew and cancelled the goal, only for var to call him and overturn it and you still blame him?? Come on na!!


You talk about the penalty as if this is the first time a ref was called to have a review on a penalty incident after waving play on. You think if he's really anti-man u and pro Leeds man like you claim he won't call that penalty soft and stand on his earlier decision?? Lol. Don't make me laff boss. Let us don't even talk about the foul on Tomi that a pro Leeds and anti-man u fan closed his eye on.

Atkinson had a good game ystdy, I'm just hearing he's an anti-man u fan, and nobody would have known ystdy with the way he blew.

afrodoc2:
1.VAR or no VAR if we had scored in that way there would have been accusations of bias.

2.Let me ask this question, “What was VAR looking at and deciding?”

3.Another question, “Why did the ref not blow the whistle after ESR took the shot and he(ref) then saw DDG down?

1... Well since man u have a alleged questionable past(Howard Webb ish and ref favoritism), so you can't expect that there won't be no accusation. It's just normal and one can't control it. I can only speak for myself and not for others who might wanna question the goal if the situation was reversed.

2.. The stamp on Fred on de gea. Fred is a man u player and not an arsenal player, so that was the main reason why the goal was given. If arsenal player had done the foul, it would have definitely be canceled

3.. This is var era. The ref had already put the whistle in the mouth but refrained from blowing it till after the ball had hit the back of the net. This is to allow var to check it and give the correct decision. It's just like the new offside rule that a ref will see a player in an offside position but won't blow the whistle until the player either scores the goal or put it out of play. Once that happens, var would be the one to checkor the ref himself to see if the decision is right or wrong. This is to avoid human errors whereby a player who wasn't in an offside position but deemed offside won't be hard done by.

BlueMann:
This particular picture, i saw it on another site just before I made that post.
And I swear I no dey troll Havertz, na my guy...but his facial expression sometimes dey burst brain

Lol.. But why e be say na today wey dey talk about ice cold you come go bring ice cold picture
All these while, you no drop am since oo


But on a more serious note, I think havertz is some sort of nerd while growing up. I saw some of his pics when he was young(like teen pics), and it was just showing all these nerdy vibes. Even the one he snapped with his supposed girlfriend still dey nerdy join

CapitalCee:
I did want to say it. But DDG was at fault. Why will you abandon you post like that with just a stamp on the feet. Why not see the pressure out before collapsing

Boss boss... Na wa oo
So you know all these things yet you still quote me say we stole a goal??

afrodoc2:
Just seeing the Arsenal goal. I blame DDG mainly even though I think the ref should have used better judgement and cancelled the goal.

DDG has a history of reacting soft to almost every little contact. It is gross indiscipline for a GK to leave the goal unguarded when it wasn’t a serious injury.

Fred is blameless. Contact happens. It is not his fault his keeper is so sweet. I also don’t think ESR saw that the keeper was down and even if he did I am not sure the result would have been different.

Having said that, if the tables were turned and Man Utd scored this way we would have been hearing B.S epistles about PDP and Howard Webb.

Thank you.

Tho I believe the ref wouldn't have cancelled the goal since it was var that made/overturned the decision. But without Var, I'm dead certain that goal would have been disallowed

Cc: KingAlabi

BlueMann:
See the Cold face

abeg, I wan ask one question...

Na say una get all these pictures handy for una phone abi wetin?
The kain trolling pics wey dope una dey bring for here eh...

daveP:



Many man utd fans were sure they'll beat us. Especially knowing Maguire was starting. But it turned otherwise.

Fear dey Arteta blood.

We need January signings up front. Chai

This man have one of the youngest and talented squad, but we still dey park bus after 1yr plus in charge as if na Burnley players we get.

Such as coward coach

We need attack. Any signing wey dem wan sign July/Aug make dem just sign am January abeg

Spy360:
Who mentioned parking the bus? Abeg read well.

We invested in defense last summer, next summer we solve attack. How's that difficult to comprehend. Leave me jor.

So we can't hold our own in midfield with personnel like odegaard, partey and elneny until we invest in dem zidane, pirlo and gattuso shebi?

Spy360:
But when it favours your argument you will bring stats abi?

Stats are records of actions and events. Like it or not, they are the best analytic tools.

Have you ever seen me bring this post-match stats after a match?

I watch ball with my two eyes and I know when a team plays well, I don't need stats to tell me otherwise. Everyone who watched ystdy game knows auba played badly but stats will tell you auba had almost all his shots on target. Football Stats are not the best analytical tools if used on its own only

kokanepyramid:
If you didn't watch that match you will think Man-U actually gave Chelsea a run for their money. This is how Spy twists facts and becomes economical with the truth.

Exactly. Someone might not watch match, they will just look at highlight, look at stats then come up with conclusion.

Below is our first half stats ystdy against man u. Someone we think we went toe to toe with them looking at the stats, not knowing we played entire nonsense!!

2nd pix is the full time stats. Someone will think arsenal is the better team of the night but where just unfortunate to lose

That's to tell you why relying on only stats is false.

Spy360:
Please read that article again.

Defense wins you league- doesn't mean you should abandon attack. I have said this so many times but it seems you guys like vain repetitions.

Ferguson never had the worst defense in the league. He has always had the top three best defenses yearly and also some of the best and most valuable defenders that have ever graced England. He has also made sure his attack is among the best too.

Winning the league requires both. But when it comes to the actual two/three horse-race, it's the defense that matters more. There can be some variances but it's the fact.

As for Arsenal, we aren't going to win the league, we are rebuilding and it's the right thing to start the rebuilding from defense. The next phase is to strengthen the attack department. I believe that's the plan for next season

I don't want to delve into this defence/attack wins you league cos I've made my points clear before.

But you see that bolded, nobody is expecting arsenal to win league, but when your pattern and foundation is to park the bus, then I don't know the rebuilding you say we're doing.

I believe a team rebuilding should b
play their game, whether big or small matches (with at least little alterations). Of course they'll lose some, and sometimes they'll win most, then they'll be right to say they need investment to improve.
How can you be parking the bus and you now say we're rebuilding? Are the players we paraded ystdy that bad??

Come on!!

Hope say you watch the match sha, cos the way you're sounding, e be like say na highlight you watch. Cos watching highlights, person go think say arsenal played well

Spy360:
In big games form goes out of the window. If you ever watch football you should know this. This same Man United almost beat Chelsea save for Chelsea's superior attack

As for the coach I have already made my point.

But for big teams to win big games, they have to spend. Simple.

Na when you dey look scores without critically watching match you'll be saying this. Chelsea that played them in and out and were profligate in front of goal is what you now said man u almost won cos they scored first.

Lol... Just lol.

So na form make us park bus against man u abi?
Are you trying to say the players we have available can't go toe to toe with man u? Are our players vastly inferior to man u players??