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Android17:
Debruyne was voted for by players. It is the players one will ask why they voted for him. In 2017/18, Debruyne should have won it while Salah should have done so in 2018/19 not VVD.

You mean 2017/18 were salah was in hot form that he didn't deserve it? I mean the season he broke the highest goals scored in a single season that he doesn't deserve it?

Liverpool title winning campaign everyone knows VVD deserves it maybe except you

raumdeuter:
Pepe plays mainly as the wing forward, while Saka played Left back, left midfield, right midfield, cemtral midfield

Below are the positions Saka played and the ones Pepe played

Now tell me if they are comparable

You're bringing all competitions. Show me his position stats in premier league only

Elnino4ladies:
2010

Rooney won it ahead of Lampard and Drogba

Both of them were in hot form that season. Moreover they've already given the pfa to Rooney before the final match of the season where drogba scored hat trick (both were tied on 26 before the final match of the season)

You can't say they robbed drogba wen any of those two can conveniently lay claim.

That's different unlike last season where kdb didn't deserve it at all

Fkhalifa:
I no dey feel them at all upfront

I tell you..

Fkhalifa:
I appreciate your sincerity bro
its like trying to troll UTD and PSG fans who believed Messi and Ronaldo would come and turn them to an invincible team, that it didn't work doesn't mean both aren't world class who could make you team unbeatable.
Jodera didn't come to ask for epistle if the Jota i said we missed out on has been a failure for Liverpool, but wants me to write epistle for how Nuno spent years and failed at Totten ham.... Oma shey o.

I didn't ask for epistle for jota cos we have an agreement on that saying he's good, so why should I ask for epistle?

The disagreement we had was on Nuno coaching us, so I'm right to ask for epistle from you

Fkhalifa:
if you read comments on front page the day he was sacked, you'll see how many are of the firm opinion that Nuno is a good coach who found himself in an unfortunate situation, a lot opined how he wasnt given time, given his players etc.

it does not still change the fact that he is a good coach who made wolves a fearless team beating all the top teams, discovering quality players and played a kind of football I liked. mind you, i wouldn't agree he played defensive football, I saw his side coming out to attack and score likes of city and Chelsea.
That he wasn't given time, or didn't work out at spurs doesn't change sincere minds opinion about him and that can be evidenced on the front page comments.

Well, I hope to see him in another team and see the wonders he'll do again.

Is he a good coach? Yes
Is he a top coach? No

Arteta is not a top coach but then same is nuno. Time will prove us either right or wrong again.
We await

Silentgroper:
The shadow part been off me ..

well man city is about to help u on d offloading of laca .. Be like barca still dey interested in auba na.

Na weda we go get good striker first naim be the issue. The good thing is that both auba and laca are good for small clubs but against big club na limitations dem be

kokanepyramid:
Teams that are sitting in the bottom half of the table. These are teams we won y'all were chanting we are back because of defenders.

Leicester, Tottenham and Aston villa, when we won them they weren't at the bottom half of the table oo

kokanepyramid:
Nobody is saying the defenders are not good, neither am I blaming them for the loss, stop twisting things. What I'm telling you is we won't make any significant progress by investing in defenders with these current crop of midfielders and attackers. Y'all were scapegoating Mustaffi and Luiz like once they leave and we get new defenders we'll win league sotey someone coined "defence wins you league".

So because of that, even if we improve defence, we should still scapegoat the new defenders cos we all scapegoated mustafi and Luis even tho this new defenders wasn't at fault.

My point here is that even tho they should have improved midfield and attack instead of defence first, but now that we have done it(improving defence first), let us give credit to the defenders wen if dem try, na still our players. Now that we've invested in the back 5, we are hoping that the next investment will be strengthening midfield and attack

iamoyindamola:
Bissouma, trossard, this guy that scored Brentford first goal can't remember his name

Trossard is an attacker.
So it's only bissouma that you'll take in Brighton midfield abi??
Like only bissouma

The Brentford guy, you mean canos?

andrewbaba44:
Saka that use to play in different positions you want to be comparing his stats to pepe who is a forward player only ?

Aside the Lb of 2019/20 season where he have to deputize for Tierney, which is even half season, which other seasons have he not played wing since his debut under Emery?

raumdeuter:
Jodera, can you explain how Debruyne won the PFA award last season

It's only last season that's arguable.
Tell me any other seasons that the winner doesn't deserve it from 2010?

Expert17:
Confirm polling booth award.

I still don't know how De Bruyne won it last season ahead of Bruno, Salah and Kane.

from 2010 till last season, tell me any winner that doesn't deserve it.
So just one arguable winner last season, we should discredit all the honest ones of previous seasons? Na wa oo boss

raumdeuter:
If you are doing good, there is a Stat to show it. Hazard is an attacker like Rashford and falls flat when we bring the goal scoring stat. If we cannot rate Hazard by his scoring stat then what should we rate him by?

Pepe and Saka imagine this type of comparison? Do we need to tell a football follower that Saka played in different positions even as a left back while Pepe has always been a wing forward.

So whats next lets compare Hazard to Carvajal right or to Lcas Vasquez

so since half season of 2019/20 wey saka play lb is what you wanna use to discredit his wing position.
He's played wing through out last season, played wing this season, played wing under Emery but na just half season that's what we should look out.

We should also discredit the fact that he's the one benching pepe since he owned the wing?
I hail you sir

mostob:
Onyeka for Xhaka or Lokonga

This guy isn't even consistent.

Most of the Brentford match I watch him, he's very inconsistent

Silentgroper:
We made errors on our part. Esp d defense nd midfield in which d opp teams took advantage of. Bt against u guys, we brought our A-game.. Even ox was on point, pressing nd distributing passes. Apart 4rm d mistakes made by ur mf nd defenders, arsenal's pressing is so poor esp 4rm ur attackers. There was a time i thought matip would have gotten dispossessed of ball if auba dat was closed to him had pressed him but he was just watching him..

Auba no sabi press. Sometimes he's doing as if he's forced to press and the worst part is that he can't hold onto his own under pressure.
Lacazette own be say him dey press, but once him hold ball and see Liverpool shadow, him go just fall for ground.

To be honest eh, I'm looking for a day arsenal will have an all round striker. This two don tire person

iamoyindamola:
How did we dominate Leicester
You mean we played for 20mins and shut down, did you watch their game against Chelsea that's all round domination

I acknowledged we didn't dominate throughout 90min but at least we dominated them and got two goals. While the defence did the work of absorbing the pressure

iamoyindamola:
You mean ESR,xhaka and partey ain't EPL standard cos that was the midfield that day
Then only balogun is not ready in the attack

Partey didn't play that game.
Lokonga without any experience had his first game
Balogun also.

So how was that game not a weakened arsenal when your midfield and attack na small boys. Even martinelli have balogun to work with.

Haba!

iamoyindamola:
Yes sir especially Brighton those guys are beasts

tell me the midfielder you'll will take in Brighton and Brentford over partey, ESR, odegaard, Xhaka, lokonga.

Either swapping or outright replacement.

iamoyindamola:
When I talk of comebacks did you include losing position to drawing the match

even at that, it's not much.

Most of the matches under Emery debut season, it's either we score first and win or opponent score first and win us.

The second season wey be grinding machine, we can attest how bad he was that he has to be sacked. We were never comeback kings in anything weda na draw comeback or comeback win

iamoyindamola:
Better midfielders
We saw that when the 2 played against us

You mean you'll take their midfielders over our midfielders?

raumdeuter:
Achievements like what? Rashford and Hazard are both attackers, yet Rashford has more output than Hazard despite starting as a secondary school boy while Hazard was a 30M marquee buy

That only achievement Hazard can claim over Rashford is twerking in public places which is mostly considered a misdemeanor

Hazard wey reach Madrid, now na broom dem dey take pursue am

Let's forget hazard of Madrid, at least we all agree he's a flop at Madrid.

Hazard of Chelsea is one of the most feared in EPL. I know you'll say EPL pfa winner is polling booth award, but no matter how you wanna put it, most winners are more deserving of it and fans knows that.

Football is more than stats, na why we dey watch match instead of just following flashscore, livescore or sofascore.
Saka have 10goals 7 assist in 71 appearances while Pepe have 15 goals 8 assists in 67 appearances but if you say let Pepe start over Saka near arsenal fans, you fit receive 2by2 plank for your head before you complete the statement sef

Silentgroper:
ok, i get it nw.. A declan rice would have befitting but he wont be available.. chelsea's RLC should fit in. I guess..

Lol... I just need a bissouma to be honest. If him and partey dey that midfield ehh..

raumdeuter:
Now you are being disrespectful to Saka and Rashford

Hazard has 110 goals in 352 games for Chelsea

Rashford has 91 goals in 278 games for Man Utd

Lets not forget that Rashford started as a teenager while Hazard came into the league for a prized 30M in 2012

Lol . You're really funny Sir

When rashford and saka have those achievements I listed between Salah and Hazard then they'll surely join the convo.

For now let them think of how to make their team formidable once again

Silentgroper:
He's a dm. I'm nt sure pace is needed as an attribute to his game.

I know, but he plays like bissouma and partey. The reason why I say he's slow is that his build up play from midfield to transition attack is slow unlike partey and bissouma.

As much as we'd hate to admit but most top teams DM is much more than breaking up play and tackling, the DMs need to build up play too and have passes in them

Silentgroper:
Anguissa dey ball too oo. If u saw his game against inter ..

Anguissa too slow for me

Silentgroper:
Bt those teams are hot cakes mehnnnn. Wait u guys really beat west ham.. D same west ham that thrash us.. How did i miss d match

No... I'm not talking about this season oo.
It's the 2018/19 season I was talking about (Emery's debut season)

Spy360:
I knew that the moment we lose against Liverpool, Kokane will appear like Willie Willie and start his midfielders/attackers crusade.

Like he expected us to beat Liverpool.

Liverpool that has maintained the same squad for over 5 years, won league and CL, with a very good and respected manager and about the best players in the world.

FFS, this Arsenal team is just being built, they aren't there yet. They have not even blended not to talk of discovering their best formation. This team is the youngest and most inexperienced team right now in EPL, with a rookie coach.

They held their own against this Liverpool side toe to toe for 40mins before collapsing under pressure. Yet the best we can say about them is to criticise them. So much for being a fan.

Lol... I mean, if they want to criticize not against Liverpool.
Fun fact: since klopp came to Liverpool, arsene Wenger haven't beaten Liverpool. But the way they'll talk about Wenger and midfield, someone will think Wenger was finding it easy beating klopp.

Klopp thrashed Wenger, thrashed emery too, but na rookie Arteta we expect to they win klopp and Liverpool?

We should just allow this team grow, even tho I know I'm not a proponent of defence win you league, but I won't shy away from the fact that this defence and keeper are good and that we just need to strengthen our midfield and attack more... Especially that attack.

We need a good goal scoring winger and a good striker who can impose himself in big matches. Auba for big matches na -1

kokanepyramid:
These teams we lost to, are they known about their defending prowess or how they attack? How many times do we get to threaten and test their defences? How many shots do they face/match on average, their average possession per match. Compare with ours there lies your answer

Chelsea, Man city and Liverpool are the top 3 teams in the league. Their coaches are also the top 3 coaches in the league if not in club football. So we can't compare with them
For Brentford, they're very inconsistent, there's a reason they are below us.

Our matches this season when we reverted to 442 with lacazette in the setup see us dominate teams(even tho I admit we didn't do it throughout the 90mins)

We dominated and won Aston villa, Leicester, Watford. The only team that we didn't is Liverpool and that's because we were afraid of them instead of playing our game.

iamoyindamola:
Did you see us say we will beat LFC, if arsenal want to lose have some pride, stress and disturb the defence
Actually we have a shot at the game the goals were down to individual errors which I won't blame the team for cos when tavarez go the ball from Arnold it's an opportunity for counter but he didn't see anyone lfc closed us down. Forcing him to commit that's what we want our midfield to do, press and press till they commit
It got to a stage they over pressed us we voluntory passed to them, there is nothing defence can do in such situation cos pressure pipe is severely bursted na free flow of water remain
Modern football don't need more of good defenders just get better midfielders way sabi die. Look at ox that day he defended and attack non stop
Tell me did matip or vvd have anything to do in form of defense

I want to ask you a question.
The Brentford and Brighton that matched Liverpool strength to strength and almost won them, did they have better midfield and attack than arsenal?

Spy360:
Wetin I do?

The only thing I said about Emery's Arsenal is that they grind out results, which the entire thread made fun of. Sod call am grinding machine.

I nor talk anything about comeback o. That one na Sod own.

Lol... Go jack Iamoyindamola oo. Him say na you and him acknowledge say Emery been do comeback kings

iamoyindamola:
I think I need to watch the match again

Please do cos Gabriel was our best defender on the day