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Leyqute:
Is this the Liverpool side you called average?

Yes!
That back 5 is bang average. Very very bang average.

Sturridge is an average player. It's just only that season with Suarez he shone well. Before and after that season, he is an average player.
The only elite player is coutinho, old man Gerrard and Suarez.

Leyqute:
He is not way better than Ole abeg

To say person be Olodo for Harvard no mean say UNILAG first class graduate sabi book pass am.

Haba!!

Half of what Rodgers did in EPL, ole can't try such. His stint with Swansea, only can never try it.
His title challenge with that average Liverpool side with just few great players, Ole can't try such.
His feat at Leicester, olé still can't try it

Say Rodgers no be the right man for man u no mean say make you disrespect am

Rodgers and Ole no be mate at all

Spy360:
Guys like Kokane, Sod and Jodera just have to admit that 'Jerry Curl' is a good player apart from his headedness.

Yeah.. I believe he's matured in his game in France compared to when he was here, but then his behavior is something I won't tolerate in a player reason why I wouldn't want him here.

BlueRayDick:
U need to understand his point here which I quite agree with; most of our players considering the clubs they play and how frequent they get to feature in top matches are not really superior to Cape Verde's.

Cape Verde have players playing in Switzerland, Netherlands, Portugal, Cyprus etc. Super eagles have players in Germany division 2, Netherlands, Scotland, France, Saudi, Turkey etc.....players like Ìwobi that plays in England is even a bench warmer that is surplus to requirement at his club but commands starting shirt in the national team.


What he is saying is most super eagles fans are far away from reality thinking we are some 4cking Senegal that has Mane of Loserpool, Mendy that is Chelsea's number one, Koulibaily, Idrissa Gueye, Kouyate, etc...... These aforementioned players are the kind of players the super eagles used to parade in the past, but what we have now are bench warmers at their clubs strolling into the team, old and finished players like Ighalo retiring and coming back into the squad from Saudi, etc.

We may not be at par with those Cape Verde players, but our players are not significantly superior to theirs considering the clubs they all play for and how important they are to their respective clubs' dreams and aspirations.

Okay.. I get the point now. It's how we manage to recall both ighalo and still using Musa that's the biggest surprise for me..
But I now understand your point and where Dayo is coming from.

raumdeuter:
Remove Osimehn and Ndidi from our team, how are we different from them?

We have Ighalo playing in Saudi and we are laughing at them for having players in Dubai
We have Collins in Division 2 and we are making fun of their division 2
We have players in Scotland and are looking down on players from ireland

Yes our players are better than them overall, but the gap is not that wide. Gone are the 1990s days we will have these caliber of players and Cape Verde will be filled with home based players who never play for synthetic pitch before

Nowadays the gap is not that wide

Look at our bench Abulahi is playing in Cyprus

Well, I agree with you

MorataFC:
we just pray for a favorable pairing for our play off, because what i watch this evening was a shambolic display from SE, ordinary Cape Verde.

I tell you. Our display na big eye sore.

When is the date for playoff pairings sef?

raumdeuter:
Check wikipedia, Scroll to the portion of players you will see most of them play outside their country in Portugal Turkey France etc, the same places where our Nigerian players dey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Verde_national_football_team

If you investigate properly you will be shocked that some actually are Portuguese who grew up in Portugal but because they cannot make it into Portugal they chose Cape Verde. Some of the black Portuguese can do that. Someone like Man Utd Nani could have played for them if he wasnt that talented

Our starting 11 today
Okoye Sparta Rotterdam
Awaziem Alayanspor
Ighalo Saudi
Ekong Watford
Balogun Rangers after failing with Brighton and Wigan
Collins Paderborn (Division 2 side)
Aribo Rangers
Simon Nantes
Iwobi Everton bench


Gone are the days Nigerian players will be playing at these type of clubs while Cape Verde will have strictly home based with 2 in Cyprus division 6. Now they are closer to us in talent pool

this is a must win match for them and while I check each player's starting 11 clubs, it was all poor league they came from. In fact the player with the biggest team there plays for a Belgium league (Oostende). And they are just two.
The players playing in Portuguese league even plays in division 2 Portugal.

The rest are from Hungary, to Cyprus, to Dubai, to Northern Ireland, to Azerbaijan etc.

The bench is even worse, I'm seeing teams like Jover fc.

I still feel our players are way better than them in terms of club level

raumdeuter:
Rohr might be Ole lite but the truth is that top coaches dont do National Teams. And Rohr is about the best we can get for our National Team
I know Nigerians are proud but we need to tell ourselves the truth, Our players are lacking in quality and other African countries have caught up and overtaken us

Look at Nigerian players, How many are playing regularly in a top club in Europe(CL level club)? I looked at Cape Verde and almost all their players play abroad and in Europe. Can you use your chest to say Jamilu Collins, Troost Ekong, Awaziem, Leon Balogun, Joe Aribo, Moses Simon, Ighalo are better than these Cape Verdian?

I check most of this cape Verdean players and their club and it seems most of their clubs dey struggle to dey google sef.
At times, I feel we take our players mostly for granted and underrate them more than they really are, cos I don't see how a player who plays for Scottish main division, France main division and so on can't be better than people who I'm still struggling to look at the country their club plays for....

iamoyindamola:
Honestly igwe ruined that game for us, I don't know what he was thinking we were short one and he kept on missing chances upon chances.
Puyol and Valdez won't forget him easily

Abi puyol and Valdez will forever thank him

andrewbaba44:


Very funny people

I tell you

andrewbaba44:
Some Chelsea fans go even tell you say drogba pass aguero

Next question

Where's Aguero's champions league?

iamoyindamola:
Ibrahimovic and drogba let's go
I see una no get respect for your legend, let us help una drag am like tiger generator.

Amoto94:
Good one that he won it but I think Arteta deserved it too.

Tuchel was well ahead of Arteta in October.

donstan18:
He didn’t have Zidane to support him.

So why is he that IMMEDIATELY he retired, they won it.
Did they suddenly got zidane or he was just being the guy holding them back?

Still surprising he needs a Zidane to carry him wen he's allegedly known for carrying fans, coach, physio, club, teams, ....

teeshet:
Guys, between ansu fati and mbappe who will go far?

Lol.. I believe you've received your answers already

donstan18:
They don’t like Drogba, most of them don’t, they don’t even like Henry, they are just utilizing this opportunity to slander Drogba.

Check most of their posts, they derive joy slandering Chelsea legends. From Hazard, to Drogba, from Lampard to Terry. Check them.

Same coward Henry that couldn’t lead Arsenal to UCl glory? He had to run to Barcelona to be carried by Xavi, zero, Inesta and Messi.

Them dey talk about legend wey carry their team win everything, una dey compare Henry to real legends like Drogba. Drogba don’t get carried, Na him dey carry team, carry coach, carry players, even carry fans by giving them bragging rights.

The best striker to grace Epl. Nothing fit change this fact.

Why him no carry him country??
Abi him country too heavy??

BlueRayDick:
Point of correction, Henry no just pass Drogba for England , he pass am everywhere and in everything! Anybody arguing otherwise is probably too young during Henry’s playing days , has chosen not to believe the things he read about Henry’s illustrious career and has sworn against acquiring football knowledge .

Lol... Leave some Chelsea fans. If them say Henry pass Drogba for EPL dem go shout where's his cl with arsenal, does he have clutch?

I believe say na dem go De Lima no be better striker cos him no win cl too

iamoyindamola:
He's haaland in the making but I doubt we can compete for him
Remember players pick us we can't fight the big guns for them

I heard rumors arsenal are preparing 60/70m for him.

But I just know it's rumors sha

timbros:
I don't like shifting goal post when engaging in discussions. I will paste below your post that I reacted to in the first place and would like you to show me where in the post you were talking of induction to Hall of Fame.

Below is the post....



In the post above, you were specifically comparing Salah and Drogba. Even mentioning their UCL exploits (which I don't want to go into). I responded to the bolded by telling you the clutch or impact moments that Drogba have over Salah.

How the discussion jump into Hall of Fame induction which, according to you, Salah is not qualified yet, I don't know.



Was I the one that typed the above? Why saying that you didn't say nobody rates Cup competitions?

The thing with you guys here is, not sticking to the subject under discussion. You said Salah is not yet qualified for Hall of Fame induction, why using it against Drogba in a discussion that involves Salah vs Drogba?

Na wa.

1. I compared Salah and drogba with their EPL stats only (reason why I brought goal and assists). The appearances I brought also was to show how better he was than drogba reason why my opening sentence says "salah is better than drogba in EPL"
I was specific!
Also, I just used cl as an outlier to to answer hens.ben that you can't shame salah with champions league too.


2.. You're the one that's twisting my point and giving it another interpretation. I said nobody rates EPL great with Carling cup and fa cup. You went ahead and said "jode.ra says nobody rates Carling cup and fa cup"
Further claiming that fa cup and Carlin cup that are route to Europe. I said I didn't say nobody rates the cup, you now said I'm speaking with double mouth.

My point is clear...
Nobody rates EPL GREATS with Carling and fa cup. It's their sole exploits done in the league that counts, not cl, not fa cup, not carling cup simple. So you bringing clutch game in fa cup or Carling cup to prove drogba is better than salah is void. After all how many first team players of big team play in the early round of the said cups if not in the semifinals?

hensben:
Drogba scored open play goal according to you guy’s criteria of how to know a great player.

Who be you guy's? You don see me downplay penalty here before??

If you have issue with Dayo, settle that with him, no go dey carry another person criteria put for my head.

donstan18:
Defend Drogba that he’s not fraud?

How this talk take sound for your ear?

lol... If I hate am e go sound sweet for my ear but no

donstan18:
Rest!

We all know where your hate for Drogba is coming from.

Me wet dey defend drogba say him no be fraud for Chelsea for here don turn say I hate am cos I said salah is an EPL great than him?

hensben:
penalty that he scored.

Tell this nonsense to your legend drogba, grieezzman and A. Gyan all in one closet room let's see weda you'll come out alive

timbros:
Is Salah inducted in the Hall of Fame?

Please respond to comments accordingly. Check the comment I made if I remotely referred to Shearer or Henry.

Why will you make such a post @the bolded? Cup competitions that serves as a route to Europe is what you say nobody rate? Na wao... The way people throw comments here just to win an argument.

Only player who are retired are inducted in hall of fame, yet drogba still dey probation.

I'm talking facts here.
The criteria is league goals, assist and EPL trophy to be inducted. Na fact be that, no emotions . No cl, no fa cup, no Carling cup

Below is Henry's own even tho he won the fa cup. Face facts with EPL not me abeg.

Moreover I didn't say nobody rates it, I said, to become an EPL great to be inducted, those appearances and goals/assists plus trophies are not rated. Simple.

donstan18:
After what Drogba did to Arsenal, I don’t expect an Arsenal fan to even agree that Drogba is better than Sancho.

Your hate for him is inbuilt.

Lol... Is that's a means of your withdrawal?

If so, I applaud you.
You leaving to fight another day

hensben:
How did he do it, was he man of the match, Did he score in ucl final. VVD was man of the match.

He scored the opener in the final. Me even answering you on the bolded sef

Him no need wait for clutch moment like una drogba, wey after him go make una put hand for mouth before scoring important the goal.

Salah scores at the get go

I've watched plenty video clips of this vlhahovic guy and he is my few findings

Pros:
1. This guy is an excellent finisher. He's left-footed but he can as well score with right

2. He can also shoot outside the box, so at least we've striker that can shoot outside the box

3.. He gat good positioning and he's not stingy too.

4. He can dribble but not too an effective dribbler

5. He has speed but I'll grade it 6or6.5/10

6. He's good aerially and can take free kick

Cons
1.. He seems to have a habit of not having a good ball control. While he can knock ball down for his teammates, but he can't hold the aerial ball and move if there's no teammates around

2. If he wanna dribble outside the box, either he falls down or they blow for foul. Meaning he's easily bullied

3. He's not so great tracking back sha(just once in a while) .

4. He is not a great passer of the ball.

The great thing that might convince arsenal and the board is that he's 21(the kinda player arsenal is gathering).

Nb: this is just an opinion from what I watched from different YouTube compilation and what I read too. I might be right or wrong, but it's just my findings.

Do you think arsenal should go for him January/July

hensben:
All I am saying you don’t use number of goals only to rate salah ahead of Drogba when there are other stats to rate Drogba above salah. Drogba and co won chelsea first epl too after 50 years and went on to win more. When will salah win more trophies or you never check him trophy cabinet and you wan Dey use him compare his superior because of number of goals. Drogba impact>>>>salah’s in epl.

Wetin make shearer and Henry inducted into hall of fame? Shey na their champions league or fa cup or Mr Wembley?

It's strictly league win(s) and goals scored in the league only.

When we come to "who's the better African player to play in England" we'll talk about that

But for now, who's the EPL best player between salah and drogba?

Na salah!!!

Meanwhile no carry drogba near Henry abeg

hensben:
Drogba won chelsea her first ucl trophy against all odds and he was man of the match. Drogba has two golden boot as well.

so Na salah no do exactly same thing abi??

Oga you no get talk

hensben:
Drogba was always our main striker when fit so I don’t understand what you are saying. The fact that we have so many leaders in the team make it not to be one man show.

Did any body tell you they can't have 2 or more leaders?

The leader of Liverpool's defence is van dijk and the attack is salah.

If you say the leader of Chelsea attack is Lampard, what then does that say of Drogba a Striker?

hensben:
. I prefer my team to be all rounder instead of one man show, this way the team win trophy more or don’t you like how this current chelsea don rely on any player. During Hazard era we relied on his brilliance too much which cost the team sometimes when he is not performing to his best like one season wey Willian be our best player.

You go dey rigmarole anyhow.
But hazard is one of your Chelsea best players cos he's talented but you don't want to give salah such accolades abi?

One thing is certain, if you are a top player with a whole lot of talents above your teammates, the team will automatically be built around you. That's a fact!!
If the team is not built around drogba as you suggested here, the maybe he's not as talented above his teammates as you're making us to believe.

The same mourinho wey build squad round Terry and lampard go Madrid go build squad round Ronaldo.

Ancelloti wey build squad round everybody go Madrid go form squad round BBC.

Even mane, Liverpool initially built the squad around him too, until salah , a better talent came.

No be juju, na logic. Once you're disciplined and talented and you're above your peers, any coach (I mean ANY) will build his team around you.

hensben:
Back then chelsea had leaders everywhere on the pitch and we mostly play unattractive football, the goal is just to get the win then. How many trophies salah goals don win for liverpool since they build the team around him.

Wetin stop am from being a leader? So we should now use emotions and sentiments to say he's better than salah abi. Maybe we should be removing messi and Ronaldo pk too.

Since salah came to Liverpool and the team was built around him, he won both the league they haven't won in their history. And he won champions league too. Not forgetting supercup, and CWC.