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kokanepyramid:
Amongst these teams how many of them have we met and won?

Aside west ham, we've met and lost against the rest. While I agree we lost against man city and Chelsea but the squad against Brentford (esp midfield and attack) is not EPL standard so I won't judge arsenal match with that

kokanepyramid:
You confirmed in your post I quoted that they have more Brawns than brains.

Or what do you mean by "less talented but more fighting spirit" I agree with that line though.

you said it's the reason why we prefer Ramsey and guen to Ozil, and I told you we need more than just ozil now. I said we need brains as well as brawns cos only ozil type midfielders won't take us anywhere presently with the way things are in epl. Reason why I said we need Sanchez and cazorla type cos they're both brains and brawns

kokanepyramid:
You sound as if Liverpool has been unbeaten this season.
They've dropped 11 points already.
Can you list the teams they dropped points against and tell me what they did differently I want to see something.

West ham, Brighton, Chelsea, man city Brentford. At least that's the five teams I can remember with only west ham beating them.

Like I said, it depends on the coach. Brentford matched them strength to strength same as Brighton, but Arteta was busy parking the bus and inviting Liverpool to dominate them. Reason why I said it's the coach cos even if you dash Arteta prime ozil, Sanchez and cazorla, he'll still park the bus wen he sees Liverpool and man city. It's a mental block something

iamoyindamola:
No go there
Let assume the season start at Anfield, we were on zero goal difference
Only for them to chop 4 most of us here were begging Liverpool to stop scoring, I swear I no see Gabriel throughout the game na only white, Tomi and tavarez be like gabu ghost abi we play short one
Liverpool mess up our over hyped defence, it should have been 8 or 9 if not for ramsdale

you didn't see Gabriel??

kokanepyramid:
This confirms my assertion that most peeps here get carried away by activity. More of Brawns and less of brains. Na why some peeps here will famz Ramsey and Guen while berating Ozil

We need brawns as well as brains. There's a reason the likes and calibre of ozil, fabregas and mata type of players are heading to extinction

kokanepyramid:
We chop 4 goals someone said kudos to Gabriel and co, let's chop 2 goals with Mustafi and Luiz at the back you for don see analysis .

The stats are there to see, the problem of this team is still that midfield and attack.

How many shots or threats did the Liverpool backline face, it's common sense that the more threats faced the more likelihood to concede, it's results like this that fool peeps into thinking VVD is the next thing after slice bread. At a point VVD had to come to midfield just to get involved cos he was idle and bored.

What they don't know is attack is the best form of defense. They held the ball more than we could, if you are with the ball can your opponents score?

You need a good midfield and attack to be a threat or control possession but defence is our priority.

Defence that could hardly keep strings of clean sheet even with the run of playing average teams.

Una no know ball for this thread.

Like I said earlier, that Liverpool game is not even a matter of defence or midfield or attack, it's down to coach. Klopp still wallop Emery 5-1 with midfield of Ozil, torriera and attack of Auba and lacazette. Him still wallop Wenger 4-0 with ozil Sanchez and cazorla.

If you watch that Liverpool game and you think we stood any chance to win that game cos of poor midfield instead of the superior tactics employed by klopp then you need to rewatch that match again.

Until Arteta increase his tactical acumen to outwit klopp and guardiola, we go always dey collect for their hands even if we have prime ozil, cazorla Sanchez and rosicky in midfield and attack.

iamoyindamola:
Leemao
I laugh in Swahili, why do we need Sanchez type of player when defence will win you league

I'm not even proponent of defence win you league sef, but you see this season... Na defence done carry us go far. Exclude the -9 goal difference we had in the first 3 matches wen the defence wasn't around and you'll know this your -4 way you dey talk about no be their fault. Blame the clowns of the first 3 matches and not this present one that's trying to clean up the deficit.

And my reason for Sanchez-like is that we need a goal scoring winger, all top teams have one except arsenal. Now that we have a midfielder in ESR that's popping in goals, we need a good wing forward that can pop in goals too (saka is not consistent with it). Lacazette is not someone who's consistent and that leaves only Auba with the scoring responsibility in that forward line. E no gel na

iamoyindamola:
Go check am na

I dey come

Modified: after checking it, we had only 3 comebacks out of 38 league matches(west ham 3-1, Tottenham 4-2 and Leicester 3-1). In fact, teams do comeback against us than we did against them.

I no know the comeback kings wey you and spy talk say we been do

iamoyindamola:
But have you seen any difference, we labelled our defenders clowns what should we call these presence ones that haven't done anything perform better than the previous one

The league is harder unlike previous seasons.
Everyone without bias knows this defence is better than Emery's defence. What we just need is a Sanchez type of winger and we're good to go.

iamoyindamola:
Like I said you win some and lose some
He thought Nuno will be okay for arsenal which is not

Fair enough then

iamoyindamola:
Another lie
Emery team were the king of comeback, he used his clowns well with the idea he will outscore his opponents even spy360 acknowledged that.
It was when that Pepe/zaha saga came out he started having brainfart
Their is no fighting spirit anywhere here, na just fist bumping cos of ramsdale extra ordinary performance

How many comebacks we do during the league.
I can only recall the first leg against Leicester 3-1 (ozil masterclass).

Remind me how many comebacks we did wey make us finish 5th?

iamoyindamola:
We they wait na
When you no get proof you have to wait till you get it

Lol... Make we dey get forgiving spirit na and just move on. Afterall, wetin most of us dey talk na just for the interest of the club

One thing I do know is that I love this team fighting spirit and winning mentality. This team might not be as talented as Emery team but they have more fighting than that of Emery team.

iamoyindamola:
Incase we have forgotten
Mustafi and his clowns went 20 games unbeaten during ebening time
Mustafi and his clowns never have negative goal difference
Mustafi and his clowns didn't lose 4 matches in their first 12 games
Do we still need defenders make Una answer o so we can collate possible better CB

But why e be say all these talk no come up wen we day 8 match unbeaten in the league?

iamoyindamola:
You win some you lose some, I have tackled him about Nuno too but you can't say he's not right.
What about Jota and zaha he told us about, I remember he was singing Jota name before lfc will even think of having him
Some of us have seen this already others are just taking it as it happen
From the beginning Arteta is/was a bad choice
From the beginning defence shouldn't be the priority
Now we have conceded more than we scored
We are even owing goals -4 imagine goals way we never score

Lol... Everyone who watched jota knows he's good and we all know Zaha is an upgrade on our wingers even without his recommendation. I'll credit him for his spotting of Jota's talent but then, that's not even the issue.

The issue is if Nuno is the right man for us which I know some of us(including me) was against and the chief reason was because of his style of play. He plays defensive football which I'm against but he was talking about how his team is fearless and all. Most of us here didn't want Arteta cos of his inexperience but then some of us also didn't want Nuno cos we believe his style of play can't take us to the top too. Now we can see how his Tottenham team fared with insipid displays and poor play. You can't be in a top club where you're expecting to dominate teams and you're thinking of how to play defensive. It doesn't work that way and that's the point I was trying to pass to Fkha.lifa since.

handelex:
Lol one Wartford fan said they are not used to those kind of situations so they panicked and scored 2 dying minute goals They should have taken a cue from Liverpool and City.
It's sad how the board still left his DNA goons in charge, coaches that Ole refused to change because of their firm belief in DNA, vibes and keeping it simple simple
But let me warn you now, una go collect from us.


Omo dey no wan allow my guy breath in peace for this streets, unforgiving spirits everywhere.

Lol... Since the day DNA and vibes enter man u, una never beat us.
So as long as DNA and vibes still dey man u, I get hope for my annual largesse

Fkhalifa..
We still dey wait your Nuno espiranto wey you tell us say Tottenham dey lucky to get and arsenal dey unfortunate to miss out.

We still dey wait your epistles on why him no make Tottenham to the fearless fighters you claimed they'll be

LostMyZeal:
Hazard is special bro.

Maybe it's me sha. Buh I don't see Salah that way

Eden is an all rounder

Imagine if you're trailing by goals in a game and you want to turn things around, who's more reliable of the two?

Please jog your memories of who Hazard was. Una too dey quick forget

Lol...
I know Eden is special but let's get this straight

1. Both of them are epl pfa winners
2. Both of them are EPL winners
3. Both of them are go-to men in their team
4. Both of them have scored important goals against top teams at key moments from man city, to man u to Chelsea/Liverpool to Tottenham.

Note, my initial argument didn't even say salah is better than Hazard sef, but anybody that wants to compare them is really right to do so and that's my point.

If to say na Saka or rashford person wan compare to Hazard, that would have been disrespectful not a whole Salah

Lana1:

Carrick is temporary. Arteta is permanent

Lol, what is temporary about Carrick being a coach leading man u till the end of season??

Ibunkun1:
Your lyrics dey flow boss

Lol.. Na so na, how we go do

donstan18:
This guy no dey use eye see argument wey go slander Chelsea Legends.

But where's the lie there?

LostMyZeal:
Word on the street's: Prime Salah Vs Prime Hazard

Is it even debatable?

I feel it's a disrespect to Eden sha

Forget goals. Which of dem is more terrifying to come up against

If my memory serves me right omo Hazard played like a magician for EPL oh

I think the argument is valid, I mean very valid.

Hazard was very good and Chelsea so is salah presently. Salah have been good since he came to Liverpool and it's up to 4yrs now of consistency. Tell me why it's a disrespect to Eden for salah to be compared with him?

coded01:
To think that you are a Man Utd fan, I don't think you understand!

Lol... Who told you I'm a man u fan?

I be arsenal fan through and through

Lana1:
They still have Arteta so I can understand the reluctance to congratulate us on today's victory

We're gunning for top 4.
We don topple una, e remain west ham.
As long as Carrick dey in charge for interim till end of season, no yawa

handelex:
Jodera shey you no go follow us celebrate laidis

The sack was premature all thanks to Watford. I was expecting his sack during dec 2nd after we don collect awa own national cake, Watford just go scatter everything

Anyways, since ole goons still dey, I go see if they'll still further his legacy by dashing us our customary 3pts wey ole dey give us yearly

How king.Alabi na... This street no wan allow am drink water drop cup

coded01:
Una no Wan fire una coach?

Because we lost against Liverpool??

Kbs468:
Aaron Ramsdale post match interview.

�On Liverpool’s strong start to the second half…

"Yeah, I think that’s where we need to learn on the pitch. We obviously had our gameplan but as a young team, sometimes we stick to the gameplan too much and we need to learn to possibly be strong with each other and talk more to try and weather the storm."

" The quality that they’ve got - we’re aspiring to get there. We’re working and like I say, it’s a marathon, not a sprint."

�On the importance of bouncing back quickly…

"Yeah, definitely - the boss has just said it in there and a couple of us have said it as well. We won’t have people moping around with their heads down. We’ll come in and evaluate the game. We’re an honest bunch of players."

" Mistakes happen - we want to play that way, so full focus now ahead of Newcastle. Like you say, we’ve been on a 10-match unbeaten run, with eight of those in the league, so we can hopefully start another [run] like that."

�On if these are moments where you find out more about a team…

"Yeah, I believe so. After three games, everyone was talking about us and then you produce a mini-run. I don’t feel like anyone hid today, although there were mistakes made from all of us. We’re still trying to play our philosophy and that’s the way it goes."

" Hopefully we get to this stage in our career with our team where we’ll be doing this to other teams."

[Arsenal.com]

Wise and diplomatic words from Ramsdale. I just hope the boys don't let their head drop. It's Liverpool that thrash us not Watford or Norwich

Akinbahm:
Thumb up for giving the troll a nice response.

Arteta attitude towards the foul Mane committed against Tomiyasu is/was highly commendable that’s the exact attitude I want from our players whenever opposition commit foul against us.

You no see wen Sambi go challenge mane after he did a foul on Ben White?

Anyways, I'm looking forward to next match, I just hope we collect 3 points against Newcastle

Nilon:
your arsenal is useless. They lack purpose going forward. Playing like headless chicken. No sense of direction. Arsenal is not worthy to be playing in epl. They should be competing in division 2 with the likes of preston north end, fulham, coventry, huddersfield etc where ought to belong.

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Akinbahm:
The only lose we lost and am a bit comfortable.

Arteta caution football pays off in the first half but the moment the players decided to equalize they lost the midfield which Liverpool exploited really well.

Tavarez was totally off it’s expected and I love it he should feel the heat of Epl, he still need to learn a lot that third goal should have been diverted if he held unto Salah.

Tomiyasu, his side was also used massively for the 3rd & 4th goal by Mane with his physicality, I remembered, I mentioned these boys still need to improve on their physicality’s.

ESR was totally isolated if not we both saw the two movement he did but was counted as offside.

Saka; Klopp respect he told his boys to always double mark him if not kasala for don burst for their backyard.

Gabriel he really disturbed Salah I love the way he handle him. Kudos to him for not freaking out.

Partey: he tried but he didn’t boss that midfield the way I want it.

Ramsdale! Ramsdale!! Ramsdale!!! I don’t even know what to say about him again he is pure class.

To others not mentioned they tried also.

We still need recruitment in midfield and attack.

The mistake Tavarez did that led to Liverpool 2nd goal destabilized the whole team yesterday, overall despite the pressure the boys still composed themselves which still give me hope the future is bright.

Well, I totally agree with your point.
That tavarez mistake to me was out of fear sha, cos after doing a fine work dispossessing Arnold and driving the ball, he decided to go back to safety(which is back to defenders) instead of passing to any of the midfielders. That's the fear I'm talking about cos tavarez in such situation have never done that. This is the first time I'm seeing him pass back to defence after driving infield

Spy360:
Beating Liverpool at Anfield would have been an huge upset. Taking a draw would also be surprising. We know the strength of this team. They will need this experience to deal with ties like this in the future.

I saw continuing progress.

I'm not even expecting us to go there and beat Liverpool, what I was looking out for was a good performance, a team to play without fear or cowardice. In fact, in my mind I was expecting a 2-0 loss but I was also expecting us to play our game too at least.

Maybe my expectations was too much

johnjunior39:
Honestly we have that mindset of defeat against liverpool and City and initially I thought we broke that jinx. As much as I dont like the margin, is a wake up call and I know we will bounce back.

I cant wait for Auba to retire, leave or go for nations cup, why did he even stay off side. Sub him and leave Laca alone.

Thumbs up to Ramsdale and Gabriel, English defenders will shame you.

Tavrez be like welcome back Boss Tierney

I tell you, if dem dey look for match to reinstate Tierney, this match just gave Arteta one.

Na So we for collect 7 if not for ramsdale . When the 4th goal enter, I been just dey pray make time finish. Can't stomach another 5 from Liverpool again abeg

We need sharp striker, but in all I won't too blame Auba. The guy was starved of chances. The bad thing about him is that once arsenal is not dominating, he will turn minus 1.

Until we take away that defeatist mindset we have towards Liverpool and man city, we go continue to dey collect at least 3 goals from those 2 hands