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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 1:36pm On Jul 01, 2021
handelex:
E. B. THINGS
You sef see am na
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 1:35pm On Jul 01, 2021
Expert17:
Degea who can't start for club and country on 350 - 375K, and no plans to dispose him

VDB on 120k

Ice Cold Flop on 250K

Pogba pushing for 400K
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:35pm On Jul 01, 2021
daveP:
Yeah. Personal terms was ongoing yesterday. The fee is less, yeah. Both players also wanted this move badly too. No hitches!!
Nice one
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:18pm On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
Is it ten years ago jota moved to Liverpool or last year ?

Both players moved last year. The more accomplished and well sorted out player is earning 120k but you are trying to convince me jota will earn more on what basis? Jota will earn less than Vdb if he was signed by United so same wages with what he's receiving at Liverpool.
Cos he won't need any acclimatization again compared to Vdb who will.
If you don't think EPL to EPL pay players more compared to foreigners coming in new then just leave it like that
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:09pm On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
2015 kor 2016 ni.

We are talking about last year here. Vdb is on 120k a well know and accomplished player than jota tells anybody that's Sensible that jota will be on similar wages to what he is receiving at Liverpool.
Is it only last year we're talking about?
Why restricting it to only last year?
We're talking about how EPL clubs mostly overpay salary to players compared to Liverpool who doesn't and you're saying last year.

So it's only last year man u started paying players? You no get talk
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:05pm On Jul 01, 2021
handelex:
Shrewd business those guys at Anfield are doing. On the other hand we still generate a whole lot of money than they do, but Madrid also generates more than us yet they hardly overpay their players.
Exactly, a really shrewd business they do.
The thing is that they don't overpay.
See my arsenal for example that doesn't make as much as you guys, yet we are paying 250k to partey who was earning just £45-47k at athletico.

Is partey world class too? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:00pm On Jul 01, 2021
Spy360:
Both deals 25m.

The issue is that they are squad players. That said, the price is OK for their potentials.
Yeah.. Esp the tavarez deal. I heard he's a back up for Tierney which we need urgently. I just hope the guy is good sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:56am On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
Vdb a well accomplished and more sorted player than jota is on 120k so yes he will earn similar at United to what he is earning at Liverpool.
How much did shaw earn at 2015 abi 2016 wen he came?
Just because he was touted as a potential topstar

How much was unknown martial salary when he came?
And Bruno Fernandez earned 150k and you're saying Jota will earn 90k.

I just dey laugh
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:52am On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
Mane Is on £150k
Cc. Handelex

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:48am On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
Exactly and the only player they signed that was big is on high wages 150k Allison. When he wants to renew it's going to be 200k plus. Thaigo is on 210k too.
So you think someone like salah, mane and firmino haven't extended deals from their initial contract? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:39am On Jul 01, 2021
timay:
That is because most of them came in as average/above average players and not world class. The likes of Mane, Salah Henderson etc didn't come as super star signings.

However, none of this guys are even talking about contract renewal except Liverpool gives them a bumper deal, they will all run down their contracts like Wjinaldum to go for bigger pay elsewhere.
Lol... How many world class players are in England?
Let's compare
Jota moved to Liverpool last summer and he's on 90k a week. mind you jota is in England thus he doesn't need any acclimatization, yet he got 90k.
Bruno Fernandez wasn't a world class player when he came to man u. Yet his salary is 150k.

Tell me, if jota was to make that move from wolves to man u, would you guys have placed him on a salary scale of 90k considering his display at wolves?
How much was unknown martial salary per week again when he made the move to man u? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:30am On Jul 01, 2021
handelex:
Na true shaa.
Yea...
But the magic is how were they able to keep a whole Mane at 100k a week all these years and as at 2021?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:16am On Jul 01, 2021
Trevor012:
Yes. Because in your mind Ole is forcing Rashford to play without his approval of being fit or without approval from the medical staff.
Weda it's force or he's sweet talked him into it, I don't know, but rashford said it with his own mouth that he played with injury majority of this concluded season. And now that injury needed surgery. Any football injury that needs surgery is not a minor one(you can prove me wrong). No wonder he's not always consistent in his plays even tho the talent is there.

Maguire also said he played through injection in most part of last season(before this concluded one). This tells you how Ole mostly plays some of his trusted guys to the ground
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:11am On Jul 01, 2021
Expert17:
Tired mehnnn, imagine Pogba asking for 400k.

What has he done to be worthy of the highest-paid player in EPL?
Lol... Na precedents dey talk na.
When martial is on 250k and playing nonsense while de gea is on 300k and committing errors, why won't pogba cut his own cake? grin

Nobody born any Liverpool player well to ask for 250 or 300k when him see salah dey earn 200k. The person dey mad! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:07am On Jul 01, 2021
handelex:
Looks like our thread is back to life cheesy
grin cheesy

All that is needed was Sancho announcement y'know cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:05am On Jul 01, 2021
patrickmuf:
Rashford said he has been injured for sometime and he has been off form so, until he hits top form, Sancho, Greenwood and Cavani should start...
True with what you said tho...
Only thing is that your man ole is in charge grin

Once rashford starts walking, ole will might just give him pain relieving injection and starts rushing him to start playing.

I hope rashford for his own sake make sure he completely heals, else he'll never reach the height his talent and mentality deserves
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:59am On Jul 01, 2021
LMDyaya:
It is only in manutd you will see small boys earning developed top class players salary....(kane ,vvd, de bruyne before the recent extension etc)


sancho na baller no be lie,


I hope he makes it here.
Lol... How Liverpool is able to still give some of their top stars average salary is a world wonder.
Check out mane, jota, fabinho and even captain Henderson's salary. All are below £150k per week. In fact the highest is £200k per week and sometimes I wonder weda na the same England all of them dey with other clubs grin
It's really amazing tbhgrin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:34am On Jul 01, 2021
patrickmuf:
Good thing we have finally signed Sancho, hopefully that's our right wing sorted out...

The big plus is that he can also play on the left side and even as an AMF if situation demands thus if Amad hits top form, we can have Sancho on the left, Greenwood through the middle and Amad on the right with Rashford, Cavani and Martial on the bench.
Rashford on the bench? shocked
Is it when he's injured or when fit?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:28am On Jul 01, 2021
Arsenal almost done with the deal of tavarez and lokonga. Both deals less than £60m pounds combined.

DaveP how true is this?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:25am On Jul 01, 2021
TrebleChamp:
That he isn't playing at the Euros was even a worrying sign for me, but some think i am wishing for him to fail if we sign him. Werner and Kai did very well in Germany, yet struggled at Chelsea last season. Hope he keeps his head down and his arrogant (if he has) in check, we don't want another Ice Cold Rubbish in our team....
I think southgate was trying to protect him especially from man u transfer distraction and all. Now that it's over and done with, let's see how it will pan it in this euros.. But maybe it might be late already to get into the squad too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:39am On Jul 01, 2021
popizaino:
Make it up I am listening.
Key players missing is always affects the national team whether they change coach or not

France qualified from group stage match with all the players complete but immediately they met Switzerland with 2 of their key player(full backs) not available which made them switch their tactical plan made them to lose

Italy in 2008 also qualified from group stage complete with all their key player's, but immediately they met Spain with 2 key players suspended, they lost also.

Coach can't do anything without key players.
Same coach that won WC with Germany in 2014 exited in group stage with some key players retiring. Same thing with Spain.

But all these ones is by the way, you still haven't told us in detail how pep made England NT successful in 2018 with none of his players actually pivotal
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:40pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
If france changed their key player did they changed their coach ? You cant make this things up
The thing is that they changed the very key player that was both instrumental in their euro2016 final run and WC 2018 win.

Just that singular act made them to crash in the next competition early. You can't make this up grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:59pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
Italy changed their world cup winning magers and did not well in the subsequent competition

Others didn't change their world cup managers and went on well to do well in the next competition.

Italy missed their key player in Pirlo and Gattuso which also contributed to their exit to spain

Others teams didn't miss any key player .[b]if you dont see the pattern in this [/b]then I cant help you again .
The only pattern I'm seeing is excuses. Finish!

I can as well say France decided to change their key player in Giroud reason why they crashed out early
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:24pm On Jun 30, 2021
Katcall:
I feel the french team were helped by VAR. From the first game against Australia where they got a controversial penalty and Griezman converted to the very last game against highly rated Croatia.
Na wa ooo.
How did var help France in the final again?

First France didn't deserve it, now this?

High flying Croatia ke? After they use Pks in majority of their knockout to qualify and needed extra time to win England.
Real high flying indeed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:00pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
Yes,it can be argued that italy changed their world cup winning manager beside they had their key player suspended for the deciding match that got them knocked out of euro 2008. Andrea pirlo and Gattuso were suspended for the quarter final match against spain.

Others that didnt change their manager's did well par france did well .
all these ones you're saying na just excuse. A key player suspended is no excuse cos it's the key players fault. They played the competition, got suspended along the way and lost, so what are you saying? No be even injury self that I might be sympathetic.

They changed their WC winning manager because he underperformed before the tournament. Simple.

So your excuse about France not deserving of the world cup have been proven wrong
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:54pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:
The question is with the high number of players included, Can you specifically point out where Spain won the world cup before 2010, or Germany before 2014? And did Sterling not play under Mancini and Pellegrini? 2018, 2021 who's he playing for? You? And if you dare tell me it's coincidence, you'll have to mention that manager who has the same coincidence too Stop thinking like a Yabaleft undergraduate abeg
You hate pep for rubbishing your club FINE, not that you'll come and be telling me story, Every nation he manages in tend to reach heights whether his input is little or massive, EOD
Pep is a top coach in a top club and you don't expect any of his player not participate in a winning team. It's hard.

You guys are just forcing this credit on Pep Tbh.
The simple question I ask how pep impacted England to S/f run in what way Popi.zaino sidestep am
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:43pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
France won the world cup in 1998 and went on to win the euros in 2000

Spain won the world cup in 2010 and went on to win the Euros in 2012.

Germany also won the world cup in 2014 and reached the semifinals of euro 2016 marginally losing out to the host nation with some questionable officiating.

France won the world cup in 2018 only to get knocked out by European minor in their first real test . grin


If you dont see similar trend in world cup winners doing well in subsequent competition then I cant help again
So does Italy deserve to win 2006 WC?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
Russia 2018 was an anomaly, France shouldnt have won that world cup,evidence is their early exit from this euros.
Same way Spain own was an anomaly in 2012 since they crashed out early in 2014 WC right?

Popi.zaino wetin sup na grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:40pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
I'm less concern if any of them were big players or not with the National side before pep Guardiola,just compare and contrast their performances with the national side before and during pep Guardiola and see your answers .
I think you need to be detailed let's get you well.

Let's take 2018 WC semi final run as example
Which of Pep's player(s) was very instrumental and pivotal in their run to semi finals?

List them one by one and their contributions let's see
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:33pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Spain had already won the euros before 2008, but no world cup
Germany won the euros in 1996, since then nothing until 2014
As for England they last reached the semi finals in that same 1996, since then heartbreaks, the next time they reached was 2018, [b]you can call tuchel, ancelotti, klopp even Sean dyche, [/b]All I'm saying is pep's clubs national teams tend to do well even if it's 0.01% impact he had, No be serious matter like that
Fine, as long as most other top coaches have better or almost equal impact on national's team success, then we're on same page.

My argument with popi.zaino was him claiming pep have Large part of success to most NT success/win which I was vehemently against.
But with your standing, me and you no get ish be that grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 5:13pm On Jun 30, 2021
Fkhalifa:
At least, I'm happy at what am reading here on Xhaka, some fans are beginning to go emotional saying stuffs like " Don't sell him, extend his stay bla bla bla...
For me even if Xhaka goes on to lift that trophy, I'm so finally done with him.
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:11pm On Jun 30, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Okay sorry, got you now about the 2018 world cup
cool cool

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