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Expert17:
Monumental flop wey win player of the tournament

E tire me oo

odizeey:
You are talking as if Kane was scoring close to 30 every season. Kane has scored 20+ 4 times.

21, 25, 29, 30.

As deadly as Aguero is and was, his highest was 26 in that same Mancity. So how are you so certain his country man will score 30+ without stress.

THIS IS EPL! No respecter of person.

I think this is Kane's 6th season in EPL yet he scored 20+ goals 4 times. Not a bad record at all.

Aguero mostly was an injury prone player, so it's understandable.

And to the answer to your question(the bolded), it is because He is messi. Messi is surely a goal machine, and if Kane can score 29+ goals twice, then messi will surely pass the 30 goal mark cos he rarely goes injured

odizeey:
From 2007 to 2009, how many times did Ronaldo score more than 20 goals. This thing is more than your ability, brother.

Will he bring Xavi and Iniesta and the Tiki Taka crew to do it?

After Salah scored 32, how many did he score the next season? This is EPL. No respecter of man when it comes to the league. In cup games you can do what you like.

Lol.... It depends on the team. A peak messi in man city (under Mancini or pellegrini), wouldn't need xavi or iniesta to be shattering goals.

Messi is almost an all rounder, goals, assist interplay, chance creation. Like I said, after all, Kane was scoring goals week in week out.

Messi is that good bro!!

Melvyn11:
Sit back and relax

* 4 finals for Argentina
* 0 goals 0 assists

*Went Back to back competition with Argentina scoring 0 goals

* 0 knockout stage goals for Argentina in the world cup

* Went to straight 4 competition with Argentina scoring 0 goals in the knock out stages

*0 trophy as well.


Messi is an Argentine flop.

So the group stage goals he scored doesn't count abi. Yet if he didn't score and they got eliminated in group stage, na still you go bring stats saying how trashy he is.

Also, you didn't tell us he's still one of the most rated players in those competitions, in an Argentina shirt. So na wetin make am monumental flop be that?

TrebleChamp:
Pele did not win champions league too, winning only club trophy doesn't make you the GOAT. Make Messi win World Cup before we can place amongst the greatest or even call him the GOAT... Pele, Maradona and R9 inspired their National Teams to win the world Cup, something Messi has so far failed to achieve.....

So all his achievements that is extraordinary is washed away cos he didn't win the world cup?
So I can as well say C Ronaldo is not a GOAT then

TrebleChamp:
Its not sentiment really, they feel he didn't do enough for the National team as he does for his club.

They feel?... That's sentimental at best na.

He singlehandedly took them to world cup 2018.

He is their highest goal scorer.

2014 world cup, he scored almost all goals in group stage. Granted he didn't score in knockout, but nobody will say he disappeared in the knockouts tournament

He was influential in their key runouts and final against Chile, but because he didn't win, na problem for him head.

The thing is, he is very very influential for them, and there's only and football as a whole. So one can't just sideline messi achievement in barca claiming he's barca goat only.

Like I said, it's arguable, but if there's two GOATs, then messi and maradona have to hold those ones.

TrebleChamp:
Best player and highest goal scorer don't matter if you don't win trophies, don't get me wrong Messi is a great player but can't be put in the same bracket as R9, Pele and Maradona. He is not even Argentina's GOAT.

But R9 haven't won the champions league, same as maradona. Or is it only world cup that's eligible to make someone a national great?

TrebleChamp:
Is Messi regarded as Argentina's GOAT?

Arguably yes.
If Argentina don't see him as that because of sentiments, na their opinion be that.

odizeey:
So you think. EPL is tight. Now I am not saying it's the all and all of all leagues. The league drains players. Tight fixtures and little concern about about European fixtures. Lastly, some teams are hell bent on frustrating a you. They don't want to go anywhere but they they will frustrate you. Check am na. Check goals chart for the last 20 years.

You've forgotten that messi is one of the most fittest player in the world. You've forgotten that messi and Ronaldo are two players whom fatigue rarely affects? EPL tight, yet Kane is scoring over 20+ goals consecutively season in season out even with champions league commitments, yet na messi go find am hard to score 30goals, . Lol.

Even if you talked about more teams parking the bus, but if you check statistically, messi scores many goals against athletico(a team known to park bus in laliga), how then do you think he won't cope?

At least I can look at salah and see that salah scored over 30 goals in the league only, na peak messi wey better pass peak salah 10x go struggle to score 30goals a season?

Come on bro!!!

Melvyn11:
This is not just an opinion. The stats and 0 trophies are there to show Messi failures with Argentina

Stats that he has more goals than any other Argentine? Or stats that he won individual awards in an Argentine shirt?
Cos I don't understand

Melvyn11:
As long as you agree Messi is an Argentine flop. If we start bringing in stats you won't like it.

lol... Everyone has an opinion sha.
We've differing opinions, so we good!!

odizeey:
Una dey shout Messi. Messi. Yes he would have played well but if he had come to the EPL when Ronaldo went to la Liga. Ronaldo for don win like 10 Ballon d'Or now.

Barcelona fits him. If Messi score 35 goals for EPL. E no go pass two times.

lol... As long as he's not at wolves or westbrom or any midtable team.. He'll surely score 35goals in league ALONE

Melvyn11:
How is Messi not a monumental flop for Argentina? Bro we have already dissected and discussed Messi international career at the Barca thread and it was proven that Messi is an Argentine Fraud.

by losing finals right? That's what made him a monumental flop shey? If messi is a monumental flop, then nobody is an Argentine great aside and only maradona then.

Bunsenbun:
the difference here is messi bleeped up all our big boys in epl.that is why i dont insult those bundesliga teams,e no easy to dey face bayern.ahbii you wan talk say if bayern move to epl,dem go relapse?

Nice question

Expert17:
So Maradona had more awards/records/goals/assists/trophies than Messi?



It's only national team trophy that counts in football?

Na diz one tire me oo...
Someone who is hearing all these things will think messi is a monumental flop in Argentina

TrebleChamp:
Silva and Ozil also did it for their national team and won major trophies, Messi is Barcelona GOAT shikena...

So, someone can't be a national great until he wins a major trophy for his country?

BlueAngel444:
is Messi waiting for a perfect team to even win copa america haba. And the Argentina NT has had very good players. The current Portuguese team is currently far better than the quality of the ones that WON title in years past

Messi will only be remembered like every other goal scoring machine and a legend in Spanish club football.

If Ronaldo mistakingly win UCL with Juventus. Ronaldo will over surpass him

They just have very good forwards not players.
They barely have good midfielders and defenders.

It's surprising seeing Silva from la liga doing it in England, ozil to an extent also doing it in England, aguero also came and did it in England...


But but.. Messi, who mostly score or assist will supposedly not do it in England.

The underrating sha!!

IJEYdiamond:
Nigerian mentality...

Must this and must that... Well you can as well do the opposite by helping a male...or giving a male a lift...!! ... i cant change what u think.. All that i know is that there are still some sane men out there without dirty minds or having it in their mind to manipulate women....!!

Nah... You're a lady. We guys know how we think. A guy can't just see a lady he doesn't know from anywhere and offer to be her personal driver to work daily. It means he wants more. If it's a one-off, I agree he was kindhearted, if perhaps their path crossed again and he brings such offer, then I'll agree.


But offering personal driving of such on a first meeting to a lady a guy don't know from anywhere before? Then there's something more he's looking for

Obynopositive:
U de mind some yeye men,that's how i was walking with a lady some years ago, a guy stopped, offered her lift,i wanted to enter he said no only the lady..

Ah... This one hot oo.
I got two questions for you please

1... Were you and the lady friends
2.. If yes how close were you two. And what was her response wen the driver said such thing to you.

Awaiting your response abeg

Roland17:
Here is our front 3

Aubameyang-31..Lacazette-29..Willian-32

E reach to cry.

And the worst part is that 2/3 of the attack are not renowned goalscorers or assist makers.

mostob:
Brentford. We should have go for Benrahma.

sadly he's in west ham now. Na wa oo

Roland17:
I would like to see Nelson get a shot at the RW in the EPL, what’s the worst that can happen? Lacazette has been so disappointing, it is unbelievable that he continues to start for us. Arteta needs to move Auba back to the CF immediately and then play around with the wing positions. Also, it is time to change our formation, everyone knows how to counter it now. I just hope Partey’s injury is not as bad.

true... In summary
1... Laca bench, auba start
2.. Nelson needs to be integrated back into the team. Him and saka might do wonders
3.. To hell with 343. Try 433 or 4231. It's cowardice having partey and Gabriel to give you defensive shield, yet you still go for defensive formation. E no gel na


Arteta needs to tweak formation ASAP

Spy360:
I first saw him during the championship play offs and was like wow. Another player we missed is Eberechi Eze. I wonder how we were looking up when solution dey down...
Someone that will not cost more than 20m if we serious

I think arsenal don't believe in championship players. Don't ask me how I know, but mehn, the evidences are clear

Fkhalifa:
Laca will single handedly sack 5 managers at Arsenal, Only if he finishes half his chances, Wenger, Emery,Ljumberg wouldn't have faced the Sack.
Auba has tried, but I doubt he can still be as hot as his first 2 seasons again..
Arsenal could have made money off him in the market .

Hmmm... Na wa for who go get lacazette

Fkhalifa:
That Watkins will join City or Liverpool to replace Aguero/,Firminho... And Arsenal will still be worshiping Auba/Laca by 2025.

lol... At least, Auba tried.
Na laca wey still dey first team dey vex me

mostob:
Yea..I hope he tweak something. He needs to bring in the young guns.

yes he really needs to

mostob:
And to think he was signed from championship

which club is he signed from?

Spy360:
I know you still love Arsenal but just denying it. At least you are better than that [b]myopic mbecile [/b]that does not even have a brain to keep an opinion let alone understand one.

Hian... Who get this mail again??