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popizaino:
Na you know that one oooo.

History has shown us that when Ferguson came back for Mourinho, he dashed with his tails btw his legs. Even flogged him in the UCL with inter Milan.

Pep guardiola would shake Ferguson but not winning 6 in 7. Impossible.

When was Mou sacked, Was it not the next season after doing the double?

While I admit that yeah, he came for him the next season but would a rejuvenated Mou agree Man U to do 3-peat?

Omorr I doubt.

The only worthy person after Mou left was Wenger but any small injury to key player(s), season agbasa and to a little extent Benitez

And I'm talking Mou here ooo

Imagine if it's Pep. E sure me, Fergie wouldn't have done 3peat.

AdisaOwala:
This your points analogy isn't cast in stone and would not necessarily give you the true picture of things...

2007/2008 Man UTD (one of the world best teams in the last 15 years) finished with 87 points in the league.

2012/2013 man UTD that paraded bums like Evans and Cleverly finished with 86 points in the league.

Even with the somewhat similarity in points, no one that followed football at that time would even dare to compare both sides for any reason.

What the 87 and 86 points means is that both sets were winning games CONSISTENTLY. Even with the bum cleverly and Evans and welbeck

And it still means that they're still fallible especially for them not to even reach 90points means they both lost at least 4 matches with some series of draws.
Yet they came out tops.

And these are the people you want to compare with Pep team that takes 90+ points consistently like ice water??

Lol

popizaino:
Why is Ferguson having 13 league titles in his 20years?

Cos he's good. Not just good but great.

But that thing would have been halved if not less if Pep had come during his time

Make we no even talk about Ancelotti for where Pep deh for league matter

popizaino:
Na recency bias they make you think Pep guardiola stand a chance. When Mou shake Ferguson for two years what happened later?

Inpatient Abramovich sacked him

That's what happened later.

And this Mou that shake Fergie is not even better than Pep sef(arguably).

Come imagine say na pep

popizaino:
Typical of Jurgen klopps team on the bolded. How did they fare when they meet old school Ancelotti who doesn’t run and has been accused of being a vibe and inshallah coach?

That's why I say in cup competitions, you can do that and excel cos it's knockout.

Over a league stretch where 3points or nothing matters, you'll be found out

That's why Ancelotti have only 6 abi 7 league titles in his 20+ years career as coach even though he coached most top teams.

And this last two is even with this present Madrid sef

popizaino:
That shows how tough it is to wrestle the league from Fergie. It took Mancini the last day,it took Ancelotti the last day. What does that tells you about Fergie who usually starts the league poorly?

Lol...
8 matches to go, Fergie was leading the league (Man City specifically) by 7points yet dropped points for Mancini to catch up with him and las las win it.
On so many seasons(occasions), Man u have dropped points second half of the season and still won league.


And you think Pep would give you that leeway??

Pep wey win league with 100pts and 98 points o

Go and look at Man u title winning points and you'll find out that most of them would stand no chance where Pep dey

popizaino:
You see why i keep hammering 🔨 this to you that football isn't linear?

He did that to man united but couldn't do the same thing to an inferior Chelsea side? Why?

Give me that 2009 Chelsea side with Drogba, i will defeat pep guardiola with that red card advantage.

Pep guardiola knows that his team is too vulnerable without the ball,hence he always set multiple players to mark a single player. Leaving lots of empty spaces in between. If you can advice your player not to pass back in the moment of pressure from pep guardiola's team,your team would be getting results anytime you play him provided you also sit tight at the opposite end.

Look at the build-up to Ramirez goal,look at most Liverpool goals against man city and how they came about. It is always as a result of passing forward under the most intense pressure from Pep's men.

Lmaoooo

See as the tactics and analysis sweet and easy for hand to type.
You think if it's that easy, Most top coaches wouldn't have done it consistently?
Esp now that top coaches go over details.

Guy, they(coaches) know all these things but to stop it na wahala cos if you think you're trying to evade one trap, you're indirectly entering into another. Go and watch Man City analysis on their Press and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And let's even assume Chelsea can do it and win Man City. Would Chelsea win all the other opponents that Man city's Pep would certainly decimate on the way.

If it's cup, I agree, but you see league, just forget Pep!

mostob:
As Arteta dey learn work from his master, make he dey learn something from all these trophy runs too. He will need it later.

What I think now that he needs is bench he can trust. Perhaps that's why all those long list of departures were drafted.

I think that's the next phase which hopefully is this year and I'm certain we'll start winning tangibly.

mostob:
Unless you're a City fan, you're not fit to troll me. Like your troll no go enter.

By the time dem do finish, dem go carry their kaya comot

People wey dem happy say dem finish 6th and trophiless deh troll me because I drag league till last day of season.

Dem no deh troll us say we lose again, na Man City to win naim dem deh carry troll us.

Dem no serious

mostob:
To think he doesn't need the UCL slot. Baba will still drop to Europa from UCL

Lol, make we deh see sha

mostob:
Bro...TBH that is our standard o. Community shield na friendly match cup. Make Dem under bridge boys and waterfall FC dey celebrate am

My own be say make nobody wey never carry even if na fork this season come drum say me and them na the same trophiless.

If Liverpool banter me, I fit chest am because at least dem carry Carabao cup. But person wey no carry shi shi dey tell me say me and him dey the same. For where?

That's where community shield comes in. If e easy to qualify, make dem go play am..

All these double standards when e reach arsenal no go work for my side

Lai lai!!

popizaino:
Nostalgia is the reason why the only deadly finisher in the league is not even as deadly as Van persie who was not even tier 1 striker back then.

Rvp was a tier1 striker in his prime na but I digress.

Na nostalgia dey make you think Man U Is such an invincible team under Fergie when they're still fallible.

Mou shake am for two years, imagine what Pep would have done to him

popizaino:
Give Moyes his Everton back if he won't be doing his regular 5-7th again. Try they put context for things now.


Pepis good but i doubt he would have had it this much back then.

Who would have stopped him??

When Mou came, Wenger went off the radar. He left only Fergie to fight him

Na Oga pata pata Pep go come find am hard with his Man city team??

Lol. Even Fergie go retire before 2013 and he would have used all his last strength to try and win one league before he'll retire

popizaino:
Standard has dropped. The fact that Jackson scores more goal than Drogba in his first season does not make Jackson a better striker than Drogba. Football is dynamic,not linear.

Now is more of Coaches game than Player's game.
The "system" game would always beat the normal formation game and it's system era we are now.

The only reason you feel standard dropped is because system football is somehow boring compared to the free flowing football of those days but system football will always beat free flowing football and that's something Pep was a master at

Football nowadays deals with More runnings, more tactical instructions and more complex setups than those days. You might think it has dropped but it's definitely higher.

Jackson normally is not better than Drogba in anyway tho

popizaino:
Nobody defend pep reach me those days. I know his strength and weakness. I don't think his any version of Man city would have dominated a league with fergie in it.

Lmaoo.
Even the Version of Mancini have to slug it out with Fergie on the last day, it's now the version of Prime Man City of Silva, Kdb, Sane, AGuero and Fernandinho?

It's not even about Fergie beating pep one on one. Maybe prime Ferguson team can do it.

But will prime Fergie team beat the Stokes, Evertons and others consistently without dropping points along the way?

That's what Pep have over all these other coaches

oliverano:


Hahaha I don't know if you're seeing the light or consoling yourself based on your position today.

But all in all sha, I love the read, really love it. Pls do go on!

Naahh, I'm not consoling myself oo

Anybody who follows my post well knows that I'm always Pro-pep cos he's Goat of football.

See wetin him use Prime Man u do for 2009 and 2011 finals. Prlme Ronaldo, Rooney and co dey run round field say dem dey follow ball.

If he can do that to prime Man u wey all EPL deh fear, imagine what he'll do to the rest of EPL teams. Na from that day I start fear Pep that's why I no deh among those wey talk say him go learn if him come epl

And truly, EPL don see am. Na we dey beg am now make him go

Ibunkun1:
I don't know how you guys switched off in that game sha

Pele. Even ordinary cup finals wey we lost to Liverpool pain me. Omo these kind close calls na im dey pain pass.

I swearrr...
But omorr, we move

Next season, we just need to get our depth right and hopefully a clinical striker. Once it happens, I'll be hoping for 90+ points

A40:
Benitez that they used to gap with 30 points every season.

Lmaooo
Na just nostalgia deh catch guys for here na why.

raumdeuter:
Mancini and Wenger wey dem dey beat like drum for CL na him these ones dey point to as coaches?

Moyes wey dey finish 5-7th, one of the decent EPL coaches don dey turn average Joe.

Omorr, Pep for league na Goat. Nobody should just compare abeg.

Even Prime Mou, a top coach dey go dirty anytime he's expected to compete with him.

Ibunkun1:
. Yeah, you lost the league since the defeat to villa

E pain me make I no lie

This season own even pain me pass last season own cos I know we were really ready for it to go all the way

raumdeuter:
Imagine someone saying the league when EPL teams were one of the weakest in Europe is stronger than this time when EPL teams routinely win and make finals in Europe

Imagine them hyping Wenger as a top coach person wey dey always collect for Europe

Ferguson suppose learn coaching from Pep

Both Fergie and Wenger should just thank God Pep no deh their time esp that early 2000s. Dem for too collect.

andrewbaba44:
Abeg who be adisa

Lol
Adisa.owala

The man that disses

ObaIgwe1:
Imagine Palace beating the same Villa 5 nill.

Looks like Ebening only agenda in PL na to frustrate Arsenal.... And too bad Arteta allowed him.

It is well.

I swearrr...
That's his mission and he achieved it.

I mean, Villa entered into a bad patch after winning us (both times home and away).

Omorrrr, it's too bad but I just hope next season will be better

A40:
Wait. Who for stop am?? Wenger? Abi the Ferguson wey dey experience tremors when them face?

I wonder ooo.

He's even calling Benitez.

Nobody for stop Pep.

The only reason why people think EPL have dropped is because Pep is dominating it. If Pep no dey, na so we for deh hear how EPL standard high

popizaino:
Benitez that won league with Valencia no be top coach?
Steve Mclaren no be top coach?

I doubt if pep guardiola would have dominated the league in this fashion during Fergie's time.

He would have. It's a fact.

Since Pep came through at Barca, he was head and shoulder above everyone else.

Even Mou would have dominated if he was left to stay at Chelsea with Abramovich funds. Mou himself won 90+ points twice with all the presence of Fergie, Wenger and Benitez

E come be Pep In this Man City?

Omorr forget, full time domination

[quote author=Bunsenbun post=130037870][/quote]Lol leave them to claim Pep is not a factor.

I once said here that there was no EPL winner pre Pep thar didn't drop point second half of season aside Mou(04/05). He won't agree that standard of the league is high and you need 90+ and little wiggle room to win the league

germaphobe:
don't say that, just don't all EPL teams will turn up next season and Arsenal will be lost just like we predicted that they will never repeat what they did last season until eventually did and still bottled this one again.

Lol... Leave them.

They'll always be better next season why we'll drop

When next season reach and they start flopping, they will hide under "we're still on transition" mantra. Then they will wait till 2nd-3rd week of May to resume their trolling again

raumdeuter:
Pep is a greater coach than Ferguson ever was. Klopps Liverpool has gotten 90points twice and dem no see league

If you are not coming with 90points dont bother showing up to challenge Pep

There's a reason I used Mou 90+ points to challenge Adisa since he's claiming standard of teams have dropped now.
Mou Came and did 90+ points twice consecutively with standard of that time and Fergie no near 90+ points during those times. E come be Pep wey be Oga pata pata.

Adisa just no wan talk true cos Coaches of that time no dey much. Aside Fergie and Wenger, no top coach dey England then na why Fergie fit even win league with 70+ points

Ibunkun1:
una try but your Oga's oga nor dey slip up at this time of the season

Lol...
E dey happen

Aston Villa messed us up but then we'll be better poised for next season.

I hope we get a deadly striker sha

Na only for arsenal we go hear say Community shield no be trophy but make dem win am first.

Pep won all trophies in Barca (including Spanish version of community shield) and they said he's the best coach in 2009 cos he did Sixtuplets

They are trolling Kane that he won't partake in German version of community shield next season cos Bayern finished 3rd...


But na only against arsenal you'll hear "community shield" is nothing and Arsenal is going trophiless

Same people will hype uefa super cup.(European version of community shield).

Lmaooo. Una never chop finish!!!

oliverano:
Pep nah Agba baller!

Everybody know say Pep na boss na why I no deh ever buy that "money" excuse.

It like giving woman 1milion naira to cook better soup. If she no sabi cook, she no sabi cook. The 1m no go turn correct egusi soup by itself