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Roland17:
I will soon leave them. But I will make sure they learn to respect other coaches until their MCM betters them. I will make sure they learn to respect the opinions of others.

I deal with facts not tears and wailing....

Let us go and employ mourinho then. Oh, I forgot, you once recommended him here.

Your Conte wey you recommend don dey jobless after half and half season with spurs. That's another winner.

We need someone that's in their prime that we're sure of league now that we're a top 2 team in epl. Simple!

Calling Pioli no be am

ObaIgwe1:
There is a very big difference between when Arteta came to Arsenal and now.

When Arteta came to Arsenal, we were struggling between mid table and Top 6. Giving a rookie that learned under one of the best managers an opportunity to see what he can do is not much of a big risk, what is needed is to sack him as soon as the team is about to enter relegation zone and nothing much would have been lost.

But giving a Top-2 team to a rookie to manage is not just foolishness but something close to suicide. Nobody would have allowed an Arteta on us if we were where we are now.

There is an adage in Yoruba that translate "if a god cannot better your situation, let him leave you the way you are". So asking us to gamble on an unproven manager that has no guarantee of bettering us at this level is beyond foolishness my brother. I will rather stick with the upward improving Arteta, with hope of him winning a trophy sooner than gamble on another rookie or an unproven manager.

The fact that Arteta improves both himself and team every season is worth more than experimenting with an unsure manager.

Give me Pep or Klopp or Ancelotti or Zidane then we can talk, otherwise leave me alone jeje with Arteta. I need to see Alonso for 1 more season before I rate him.

This is 100% facts and undiluted truth being spoken here.

Na exactly this thing we deh talk but dem no wan hear

Amigoss:
What page exactly?

Oh, sorry

No vex. No too mind me

Oasis007:


Apologies accepted dude. We dey do the maths well before taking side. Guess what?! Valverde won Copa De Rey with fvckin Bilbao this Season.

Board should listen to people like us too. LOL!

Shebi na you I tell make you submit your CV since, you still dey jonze

Shegzdave:
I remembered two seasons ago, we were hoping Teta will make top four last season and man surpassed that to fight for the league even though it slipped outta his hands.

I’ll sha be watching Spuds game tonight

Lol... I'm not watching anything oo.
I'll just sleep by 8:00pm and wake up by 10pm.

I don't think I'll bear the live actions. Lemme just wake up, see scoreline and know my fate

Oasis007:


.....LOL! Do you know how many managers we've hired and fired since Fergie retired?!

BTW......Jod.era, you owe me an apology and appreciation letters.

Lol, I no even see this when I apologize sef.
I apologize sir

How I wan mail the appreciation letter? 😂😂😂

Oasis007:


...back to your question. Not all of us here wanted him but we've got to move on since Club prefer him. Christ.obam and some dudes wanted Poch. Patrick.muf and some fans wanted EtH. Guess what?! I and few buddies wanted Valverde.

I was sceptical about him right from onset, but since he gets the job, I have no choice but to support and wish him well - as a real fan.

Ahh... Lol, you try for this clapback and the previous post to me.

I fully apologize boss!

You try well well

Tuale

germaphobe:
He will still deny the obvious

Lush100:
Let's not be sarcastic.
If u mentioned
Ancelotti
Zidane
Klopp
Pep.

All of us will agree.

The same way Arsenal took a risk on Arteta is the same way B.Luverkesen took on Alonso.
After 1 more season we can gauge Alonso and make him a target.

But if u are taking of slot, that Porto coach.
E sure me e no fit drag EPL with Pep.
N.a. 1st and second position we are talking of oh. Not top 4 dragging

Oga, it's operation "bring anybody" as long as Arteta is out.

See them hoping on Man City to drop point with Tottenham. Years ago, we would have been praying for the opposite. But no, dey want us to possibly go back to those years where we'll be praying for Man City to beat Tottenham with all these coaches they're presenting

Amigoss:
Would take none

Exactly
It means both are risk for you who you wouldn't want to gamble on Klopp.

We're on the same page then

Fkhalifa:
Okay o....stick to Arterta o ..he is the best thing that can happen to Arsenal for the next years.

Of course. We'll stick with Someone that's progressive and showing signs of improvement over some unknown person to gamble on. That's the logical thing to do

If we're to sack Arteta, it ought to be for someone better with track record, seeing the place and level we are now.

The time to gamble with De Zerbi, Rose and Pioli don pass and hopefully we won't get there again.

And lastly, nobody calls Arteta the best thing after slice bread

TrebleChamp:
Help me ask him again in bold, so he will see the question clearly 😁...

I swearrr cos e dey shocking. I mean na him be one of the flag bearers of Eth when it was announced that Eth would take over Man u. No day him no dey reminisce about how Eth will take Man u to the top

Now, "innocent" board don dey take blame

Amigoss:
You would have asked this same question with Xabi Alonso last season but look at him today

Even taking Alonso at the start of this season will be a risk. Whether it's right or wrong is another question entirely.

So I ask.

Presently would you take Slot over Arteta.

If yes, Why?

Oasis007:


.......habibi, you are simply butressing my point. Sir Fergie an Employee, though a successful one, but that shouldn't turn him to god.

Sir Fergie can recommend but it doesn't mean board shouldn't do their findings. Same board didn't listen to Mou's recommendations ó.

Structure is our main problem and I am glad SJR has taken over it. ZeroHag is hired by same structure that are clueless about football.

Sir Fergie's success had been covering their defects till he retired.

Lol....
Was there anyone here who weren't excited about the signing of Ten Hag when it was confirmed he'll coach Man u?

Fkhalifa:
Arterta was who before Arsenal brought him? So if a youth corper can try, a decent coach may do far better....or are you saying Arterta is the best thing ever than can happen to Arsenal?

If you stumble on a very good thing that is improving everyday, after all the investment you've poured on it, would you discard it for some "unknown" best thing neglecting its potential of better and best things he can offer?

How are you so sure the Leipzig coach for example will not be a "start afresh"?

And you know what starting afresh would do to us in a competitive league as EPL right?

BlueRayDick:
Can Spurs just do this for us ?🥹

I for pay homage to Skimpledawg with 2 gallons of red oil and 3 fat fowls plus 100k to go to the mountains and pray for us, but since him when Marry I no come understand our prophet again

No wonder Chelsea dey suffer

Shegzdave:
Can we say Arteta is a victim of his own success cause Man has raised the bar so high for himself?

I don say am here na. He's a victim of his own success by some people here.

Maybe, Just maybe we made top 4 the way Man u did last season, he would be heralded.
Afterall nobody held Eth accountable for not competing for league

Then if we do like Aston Villa by maintaining the top 4 we've held with these players, they'll tell you how he's great.

It would have been labelled "transition" by our fans here.

Amigoss:
Lmao,this guy with your banger posts....Arte what?

You'll prefer Slot to Arteta presently?

Trolling apart please.

If yes, tell me your reasons

germaphobe:
For someone who can't admit that Arteta brought the best out of xhaka, I'm definitely not surprised.

germaphobe:
As a Milan fan, seeing someone mention pioli as potential replacement off me ah swear. Rola.nd me and you follow dey support Milan, what do you think about this special suggestion?.

The only coach wey I fit even try vouch for na only Alonso and that's because he's doing something unprecedented like when Guardiola burst out

All these one season wonder coach wey fit fizzle out by next season no be who we suppose deh gamble on

germaphobe:
If man city should drop points along the way and arsenal fail to capitalize on that by winning Everton(with better goals) on Sunday, I go raise the bottling flag so high than whoever held it high.

Na me sef go over fly am. That's the bottling I know. Not the one person go tell me the match I lost in December 2005 is the reason I bottled league in 2024

mostob:
TBH, the problem is not that Emery is not good enough. The issue is that he lacks that charisma to handle a big team. And that he found himself at a club having deep mentality issues. There is a reason why Arsenal's coaching job at that time was tagged the most difficult job. Most of his success have come when managing small teams. He once threw a 4 goal lead against Barca if I'm right.

BTW, Arsenal's issues starting from Wenger's last years are mainly based on mentality. There are off field issues which I think Emery was not prepared to handle.

Dem go do like say dem no know say Arsenal was one of the hardest job then. During Emery appointment, nobody expected us to compete for league. What we just know is that we should make top 4 and get one or two cups. We knew we were long way off. We had no hope of ever facing any big boys away cos we know the mentality never reach that level.

That's why when we lost the Europ league by deliberately bottling top 4, everyone was angry but the criticism wasn't like this cos we know our level. Emirates was boring and fans just dey see match just because we're fans

Ask any of them the season we finished 5th that if someone says we're to become contenders the next season onwards even when we're not at their peak, would they believe?

Anyways sha, whether we win league or not, I dey wait for that next Joshua.

mostob:
Arteta came in and stabilize everything. There were too much toxicity in the dressing room at that time. He cleared out the 'deadwoods', reestablish the connection between the fans and the club, and got us among the elites again. Along the way, he made some tough and strange decisions that we the fans were not comfortable with but see where it brought us. Looking at the trajectory and the different phases of development he tabled before the board, it can only get better from here. Losing the league to City twice is terrible, and we all have the right to be angry at him. But nobody is overpraising him.

Man specifically stated that last season was when we were supposed to be competing for top four. Like we were supposed to be fighting for top 4 but we competed with City for the title. That only means we're on the right path. Those against him said we won't be competing again this year because United and Chelsea would be competing too. How has that ended up please?

Na that stability gan gan be the issue wey dem no wan see.

Arsenal and Man U did the same thing with both Arteta and Eth respectively but both are presently in opposite directions. Both clubs complained how the board doesn't support the coach and how the players have down tools.

Both clubs identified their coaches and agreed to finally support them fully in the transfer market bringing in the desired players they want.
The former bought players transformed his team, stabilized the atmosphere and we're now respected like never before.

The latter bought his own players yet they look worse than ever before. Fans are groaning everyday and the his players have downed tools too.

But dem say the former should look at the latter because the latter won Carabao cup.

They thought the stable and competitive environment that Arteta created na from thin air him pluck am?

I love that your post about Klopp and one day I go talk more about am. I just hope it's this season

BlueRayDick:
It is UCL, EPL or nothing for the Joshua o. Anything short of that, we no dey gree

Lol, I swearrr...
I just dey wait for the next manager.

Joshua didn't fail Israel after Moses brought them out of Egypt. "Next Manager" must not fail us

BlueRayDick:
It is easy to suggest for the coach to be sacked, when time reach for them to suggest the miracle worker who will replace him, dem fold

The good thing now be say, I know our standards now and it's a very very good one. I'm happy about it.

I just hope any coach that comes after Arteta would win leagues back to back to back. It doesn't matter the points he garners, let him just win league whether by hook or by crook.

No acknowledgement of any progress here if no be league or UCL win him win

I'm just glad we're at that level now. Hopefully we sack Arteta and that next coach takes us to this promise land cos e be like say Arteta na Moses

We need sack am bring our own Joshua

Fkhalifa:
toh.

Make both of you sha no fight o, I wasn't happy seeing you both go at each other

Naaaahhhh....
One thing I would never do is e-fight or foolish and childish name-calling or insults.

Even in the midst of chaos, I would always try to be respectful.

Fkhalifa:
Hmmmm... Okay o...but I read you saying Arterta would be here for 5years to Oyinda... It was so somehow to me o ...... Look at Raya situation, I credited Arterta for that move, that was world class of him, Ramsdele was a top performing and one of the best in the league, yet Arterta didn't sleep on him like he is a legend already, now Raya won the gloves....that's great of him.....So Arsenal can also move up with another manager if in 1/2 years no big success....just a decent manager can do a Raya and Ramsdele now

Lmaooo...
That's me riling him up because of his constant hate towards the guy.

When someone says he doesn't care if we win the league or not as long as Arteta is gone. Or he wants Chelsea to disgrace us just so to see Arteta gone, I have to go through that route

It's nothing deep really

Fkhalifa:
How come he won trophies elsewhere? How come he is about to make UCL with Villa? How come Arterta didn't use that squad to d this present "wonders"? My point will always be he was never 100% the problem.

You knew Arsenal was never spending big then....it was series of loans, yougsters,pensioners...Which reasonable coach would go purchase Luiz, Litchternie and Sokratis...
Wenger Owned Mustafi and Kolasinac....

If you don't want to rate Europa final them why are you guys overpraising Artera's coming second? Why overpraising being favorite against Bayern? Why overpraising beating these Utd, spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea who have almost been beaten by anyone...
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Like I have said, it's you guys who are emotional about Arterta, he haas tried and should be made to feel the heat of delivering of may get sacked....as against the he has done wonders and should be here comfortably for 10years... I don't believe his. Critics hate him nor want him sacked, they just get irritated by the legendary treatment they are reading from some of you.

Nobody is giving anybody legendary treatment here.
We are celebrating progress made unlike what we have before and I don't see what Is wrong with that.

One thing I know is that nobody is attacking anybody for criticizing Arteta. I've criticized him here, Mo.stob, Spy, Blue-ray have all criticized him one way or the other here.

What we're against is saying Arteta should be sacked and as well undermining the progress we have made as a team. Imagine Saying this team haven't improved before

Imagine saying Arteta have been this season and last season is top 4 we're contending for. What sort of progress-undermining is that?

And when we try to rubbish those notion, they will tell us we're Arteta lovers and that we're taking Arteta as a god!

BlueRayDick:
I never thought a day like this would come when we see fans trying to rewrite history about Emery’s time with us. Suddenly Emery is being portrayed as a manager whom the management was not patient enough with , didn’t get enough support from the management in terms of signings and had to work with bad work tools thereby leading to his failure at Arsenal .

Why am I surprised sef ? Shebi with lapse of time some people actually think Abacha wasn’t as bad a leader as we all thought. We humans are really very complex in nature sha

Lol... Na so na

Emery is now our lord and saviour that was unfairly treated while Arteta is that kid that is reaping where he did not sow due to the labour of others.

See them praising Europa League final.
None of them is talking how he bottled top 4 that was in his hands instead na "clown players" dem dey blame. But if na Arteta, their hands go sharp

Lol.

Emery reaches Europa final with Arsenal and conference league Semi final with Villa — Hero

Arteta winning Fa cup and reaching Europa League semi final with Emery team — Villian


But but Arteta would relegate this team with clowns. Same clowns been brought in by Hero Emery

Suddenly, Arteta bought quality players he benefitted from

Let's pretend most of us never had issues when Arteta was revamping the squad (bar Partey)

We complained about Ben White signing
Most of us here wasn't in support of Odegaard signing
Ramsdale signing was treated with disgust
Gabriel for most part was always criticized.
Even the Tavarez and lokonga was instrumental for us in our top 4 push then

I can go on and on.

But now they are quality signings and these are the people Xhaka benefitted from and not because of Arteta coaching acumen

Maybe if Emery did to his signingz what Arteta did to his, we won't be calling them clowns here.

Fkhalifa:
Emery wanted Partey that year, Torreira wasn't his first choice, Guen was a kid.....my point is Rice and Partey buys were never what previous managers before Arterta benefited..

The Mustafi and other clowns were Wenger's left overs, they almost relegated under Arterta that year, before he was able to turn it around by finishing 8th and Fa cup... Remember that was the beginning of big signings at Arsenal from.White, Partey, Jesus, Zinchemko and others...

It's you guys who belittle Europa final with that squad but overpraised his own Fa cup...
Xha
For Xhaka, For me, he only improved due to the qualities around him here and in Germany.

Lastly, I no too get issue with Arterta, I'm not calling for his sack, but I'm never going to appreciate overpraising him like a Messiah nor allow him to be flexing with no pressure on his jobs.... despite his efforts and lots of good work, he has errors too...

He should have a fear of what happened between Ramsdele/Raya may happen to him too.

Maybe if Emery had won a cup, just any cup, with that squad and also not lose the dressing room, he would still be an arsenal manager not Arteta.
All these Europa final praise wey we no win no be am


And no, he bought those clowns players you listed not Wenger.