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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:10pm On Feb 26, 2024
airmark:
1.You didn't want me to see this and reply abi? grin

2.Well, I know you have 'two mouths' like scissors. Jorginho is a sissy today, Jorginho is a legend tomorrow.
1. We've settled this before but I guess this Jorginho matter deh pepper you for body. cheesy
If you want to reply, then reply, nobody dey stop anybody for here

airmark:
Why did you tamper with my moniker so that i wouldn't get the mention, if you don't have 'skeleton' in your post? grin
Lol, I don't want you to get unnecessary mention cos I wasn't talking to you but just passing a point.
I no get any skeleton na grin

This is me also altering tim.bros even tho I align with his thoughts on Liverpool last season. Does it mean I have skeleton in my post concerning him too



2. As for the other one I've given my reasons here.
Jodera:
. Anytime Jorginho was in our first 11 with quality players he's always performed throughout last season. Facts!!!.


There's a reason I'm voicing out now, I've used more than 11 months to watch him in arsenal's jersey and not just 2-3 months you're claiming and I've come to the conclusion he's not bad the way you guys made him out to be. He might have his flaws but his strengths far outweighs his flaws. He just needs a good system.
I'm not like you and Ib.ime who will never see anything in Jorginho whether he plays good or great. You can keep on clutching at straws, the matter of fact is that Jorginho isn't as bad most of you made him out to be and presently most Arsenal fans see and appreciate his qualities. All these diggings and diggings won't change any thing grin

As for your Madueke that you hyped, I wonder why you didn't defend him instead na Jorginho and me you dey attack.
Oh I remember, Failure have no friends cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 3:38pm On Feb 26, 2024
raumdeuter:
You wonder what airmark will be saying? What did he say about Krychokewack Manolas Wanyama Belloti scamacca Coquelin St Maximin etc that he ruined their lives

When I saw airmark hyping Madueke, I immediately knew that career don get k leg
grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:49pm On Feb 26, 2024
kingBolton:
Boehly single handedly destroyed everything he met at Chelsea, it would have been better to continue with the likes of Dr pulisic and Hudson odoi than spending millions on potential.
Mudryk and Madueke are not chelsea standard yet, even in terms of future potential.
Young players with good potentials are always easy to spot, talk of gusto, saliba, martinelli, saka, garnacho, colwill, Palmer, camavinga etc . compare these players when they were developing with the likes of ugochukwu, mudryk and the rest we spent millions on.

How boehly spent this much to end up with this toothless squad is shocking.
I think the mistake Boehly made was making group of rookies to be core players in a big club without having that experience first.

Most of these Mudryk and co might not be bad if they played with quality experienced heads, unfortunately, they are made to be the head in an already big team that demands pressure.

Sterling who's suppose to be the head in attack dey act like rookie grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:42am On Feb 26, 2024
Unlimited22:
Lol Popizaino data don dey finish anyhow these days.


In June and July 2023 he was here all the time, fighting with anyone who dared to mention the name of any other coach.
cheesy grin cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:21am On Feb 26, 2024
kingBolton:
Honestly, the most baffling thing is the amount we spent on our attackers and how useless they have been. Mudryk and Madueke will not make it to the starting 11 of any PL club but guess how much we signed those yahoo boys.
I remembered when Air.mark was drawing my attention to Madueke when he played against us last season in PSV, I was like, I don't see anything special in this guy. Person wey disturb us na Xavi Simmons not any Madueke. Lol, I wonder what he'll be saying now .

As for Mudryk, I was first pissed off when we missed out on him cos I know I followed his news then and I saw that he genuinely wanted us. Like he really genuinely wanted us. Trossard capture deflated the blow but what made me not angry again is when I read that it was a certain Manor Solomon (now at Spurs) who was benching Mudryk and it was only when Solomon was sold that's when Mudryk had his shine. And it's not as if he was that spectacular, just an average goal and assist in just that first half of last season. Then I was like What?? This guy PR must be massive grin


It's surprising how you guys bought a bunch of Average attackers masked with potentials in order to compete in the toughest league. Boehly no try for Una sha grin

Person wey I pity na Ballz problem, like Tinubu supporters, Boehly fall him hand after all the initial hype and promises grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:05am On Feb 26, 2024
afrodoc2:
Some of dem don calculate how may points Nkunku go give them once he gets back and don plot graph of their immediate rise to Top 4.
if we win Luton and Brentford and Tottenham lose to West Ham and Man u lose to Sheffield, Aston Villa and Crystal palace we will be in 3rd position cheesy cheesy


Na the opposite just deh happen since grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:05am On Feb 26, 2024
afrodoc2:
Play Nkunku, play Nkunku, play Nkunku.
Like say Nkunku na video game. angry
With the way they were waiting on Nkunku, you'd think he's the 2nd coming of Messi grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:33am On Feb 26, 2024
afrodoc2:
The truth is cold. That is why it is called the cold, hard truth.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:21am On Feb 26, 2024
afrodoc2:
Poch wey i sabi like person wey sabi money. The guy is a supreme choke artist. If Klopp had subbed Liverpool Women in instead of those boys na iya Chelshit for still meet there.
This is cold cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:35am On Feb 26, 2024
afrodoc2:
Let me give you top quality information.That boy that came in the 2nd half to strike for Liverpool played FA Youth Cup earlier this month. 😂😂😂

Chelshit na yeye club. Anyway we know they have a soft spot for young players so it shouldn’t come as a surprise. LOL
Can you imagine? You meant Jayden Danns shey
And e sure me say that boy go dey prepare go school this morning o grin


Chelsea just untrue that English saying: "you can't win trophies with kids" grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera:
Ibime:
You watched Jogginghoe from January to November and was slandering him as late as November but because of 1.5 months performance, he is best thing since sliced bread

Jogginghoe weaknesses are known. Wait till he is targeted and put under pressure. Right now Arsenal press is working perfectly and opponents are too preoccupied with Saka and co to focus on Jogginghoe. All Jogginghoe has to do is recycle anything that falls from the press. That was how Jogginghoe fooled us in Sarris first 4 months till Bournemouth alerted the league to his weakness and he became a target from then until Tuchel stabilised him with switch in formation

For 11 months you slandered him and want to count your chickens because of 2 months drama free. We will be here for the wailings.
If you're watching arsenal's game you'll know he does more than this but I guess you're still using Chelsea's eye to view Jorginho.

And No, I didn't slander him for 11 months. I only criticized him at his first match he played for us (against Everton as a sub which we eventually lost) and against sporting 2nd leg which we used mainly our 2nd 11. Anytime Jorginho was in our first 11 with quality players he's always performed throughout last season. Facts!!!. I just didn't want to drag you on this Jorginho matter last season when he excelled that's why I didn't bring it up.

Then the last time I slandered him again was our draw against Tottenham this season and all those receipts you brought earlier was post- Tottenham match before his next starting match which was against Newcastle.

Saying all he does is recycle anything that comes from press means you hardly watch arsenal matches cos if you do, you'll know he joins in the system press and aside recycling he gives forward passes too.

There's a reason I'm voicing out now, I've used more than 11 months to watch him in arsenal's jersey and not just 2-3 months you're claiming and I've come to the conclusion he's not bad the way you guys made him out to be. He might have his flaws but his strengths far outweighs his flaws. He just needs a good system.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:19pm On Feb 25, 2024
mostob:
Arteta wanted Odegaard but we the fans disagreed. To us, Maddison is way better.

Arteta went for Trossard. We blamed him for pulling out of Mudryk's deal.

When I heard the Jorginho rumour, I thought na prank until I saw the announcement.

Raya vs Ramsdale was so hot mehn. Media pulled the nationality card too. But now, nobody dey reason am again.

Although the jury is still out on Vieira and Havertz.

It may seems as if I'm supporting him but experience they say, is the best teacher. He is clearly in charge. Let him do what he wants. Has he made mistakes in the past? Yes. Is he still making mistakes? Yes. Will he make mistake in future? Probably.

Hopefully, Pep will go trophyless this season and run away. He has done enough grin grin grin
Na this Odegaard Madison own sha.
I know I was Pro Odegaard over Maddie but even though I believe Maddie will still shine here if he'd come but would we have enjoyed him?
Odegaard hardly have injuries and that's one thing that's underrated aside his balling. He's always always available. Another thing is pressing, I don't know if Maddison would have been a good and effective presser like Odegaard.

As for Trossard and Mudryk, I still Dey thank Chelsea everyday for scuppering the deal Which shifted our attention to Trossard. Even if there's big possiblity that Mudryk might not flop the way he's doing at Chelsea but I doubt he'll give the type of performance Trossard is giving (which is very important for us now). Also, I doubt anyone was pissed off missing out on Mudryk when we saw it was Trossard next. I mean we all knew his quality except one moniker called Trading-God who was ranting endlessly that day

As for Raya and Ramsdale, I still feel it's Ramsdale is better sha. But we're winning and winning good so who cares? grin
Also Raya is our keeper and he's settled so he's now part of us.

Lastly make pep do comot make ground level. This ground no just level cheesy

Anyways Nice writeup cool grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:40pm On Feb 25, 2024
afrodoc2:
These Liverpool teenagers are not even that great in the Under-21 and Under-18 leagues.
Naahh... This is a fvcking fvcked up big disgrace.
Chelsea going toe to toe with U-17 boys.

My goodness!! undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 8:29pm On Feb 25, 2024
odizeey:
Yeah. Una don come win EPL or UCL with am?
Maybe Una fit win am afterall Ten Hag get more matches and silverware experiences than Arteta na.

But then, everything needs to be resolved at the top first for coaches to thrive grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 8:26pm On Feb 25, 2024
eph12:
I don't trust someone that has repeatedly said everything is good and fine, while delivering disasterclass even when he wins. It just tells me he does not have standards
Lol... Fair enough grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:23pm On Feb 25, 2024
Spy360:
I was the one who convinced you that signing Jorginho was a good deal. Remember how you lamented about the deal? Or do you have short memories?
This was me accepting him even before he even kicked a ball and I've not been slating him unnecessarily the way I'm doing Havertz. Heck I even defended him last season when he played man city and co. Check out, I even posted his picture as me accepting him

Jodera:
I think I've calmed down and reach that acceptance stage.....

Welcome to Arsenal Jorginho.

New slate for you!

Hopefully, you'll surprise us positively during your stay here!!
We might have argued about him when we want to sign him but when it was confirmed (ie his signing), I accepted it in good faith.

The only person I'm against his signing from day 1 till now is Havertz and that's the only person presently I always said he should shock me.

Nothing concern me and you with Jorginho. Person wey last season I go make mouth with am for Chelsea thread naim you wan drag me for? You no serious grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:09pm On Feb 25, 2024
mostob:
Arsenal comes first bro. And na their fans dey troll Arsenal pass. Moreso, I never forget all those beatings of years ago. The ojoro red card they gave to VPersie is still fresh in mind. And Bayern too. It is a gradual step sha... one at a time.
Abiii... grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 8:08pm On Feb 25, 2024
Jokerman:
As Xavi dey comot, come carry 7hag
Lol... cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:07pm On Feb 25, 2024
User09:
Maybe cos you guys listened more to his naysayers rather than watch him yourselves in Chelsea.

I said it one million times and kept reiterating it, Jorginho is a function of the spaces around him. It's the same reason he keeps pointing (to where the player is supposed to be rather than where he is. The moment he doesnt see it, he passes to a comfortable one - sideways or backpasses as you guys call it.

The one and only weakness he's got is pace; which he makes up for in one million other ways
I was one of those who backed Jorginho esp for his forward passes and even sometimes he's unnecessarily dragged here. But what I was scared about him was his defensive attributes cos of mainly i.bime dragging every goal. Like every goal.
Yeah don't blame me if I don't watch every match sha

I've seen more in this past one year to know that Jorginho isn't bad the way he's being portrayed here
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:02pm On Feb 25, 2024
swiz123:
Everything here is laced with propaganda. Ibi.me knows Jorginho is not as bad as he is trying to paint him but fear of being seen to change his mind won't let him acknowledge that Jorginho has reformed and improved his game. He even gave credit to a goal keeper for Jorginho's achievement.

I once criticized Jorginho and Rudiger but changed my mind after seeing massive improvement but these old men here will rather turn agidi endlessly than accept a simple fact. Maybe they are pained cos these two players embarrassed their football knowledge which is even lacking.
This!!!
I mean, Jorginho and Rudiger have been performing especially Rudiger that has been shining since. With the way they were always insulted whether Chelsea win or lose, you'd think they'll never shine in another top club
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:57pm On Feb 25, 2024
airmark:
grin

No wahala, until you meet quality opponents and all manners of curses resume.
Man city (home last season and this season), Liverpool (Fa cup and pl), Newcastle (home and away), Are they not quality opponents?

The thing is that if you had to wait for months to say "I told you so" then maybe the person isn't as bad as perceived and there's no shame in that
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:00pm On Feb 25, 2024
mostob:
Yea... we dispatch Porto first and deal mercilessly with Barcelona.
Hian, I don't understand you.

I thought Barca is your 2nd club? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:55pm On Feb 25, 2024
eph12:
Why do you think you won't be in a better place if you have a different coach?
Now, don't get me wrong. I didn't say during the hiring and firing process we won't get someone better than Arteta. What I mean is that the environment wouldn't be conducive enough for him to excel no matter the money spent.

Doc have always been saying business people are at the top of footballing matters in man u, people unfit for the roles (from recruitment, to sporting director to physios). Get that one cleared first (which RJ is doing) and give Ten Hag one more season. If he doesn't perform even after the players bought for him and the model they're hoping to create then he should be sacked. Even Rj confirmed that great coaches have drowned here so looking at the surface (coach) as the issue is you not addressing the underlying symptoms.

Ten Hag have don it in a good environment and there's a reason you guys hired him. Give him that good environment here again then judge him fairly.

I'm not saying he's not guilty for some of the issues you guys are encountering sha but he just part of it and not the main main problems.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:47pm On Feb 25, 2024
Oasis007:
grin

We should retain a Manager that said the below after the match?!



Sir RJ................................OUT!!!!
The right direction is the recruitment process and thingy Sir Rj is setting up na grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:46pm On Feb 25, 2024
afrodoc2:
Abi i lie? It has to be nothing but Otumokpo.
Lol, you no lie bros. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:12pm On Feb 25, 2024
afrodoc2:
There is no available replacement but using African Magic Liverpool, Bayern and Barcelona will all find replacements for their managers this summer. cheesy
grin grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:10pm On Feb 25, 2024
andrewbaba44:
E don tay wey I hear Bruno fernandes hype ,same player that’s better than kdb ,Abi Bruno don retire from football 😁
Him hypeman Expert dey absent na.

I just hope he's great wherever he's o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:05pm On Feb 25, 2024
Oasis007:
🙄🙄🙄🙄
grin grin grin grin grin

But for real, imagine say we sack Arteta na, by now we for don dey do hire and fire anyhow with lots of money spent.

SIr RJ seems to be getting it right in the recruitment and football sides of things upward for any manager to excel, exactly what arsenal did when the recruitment side was suffering too and Arteta was the one handpicking players himself (just like ten Hag now)

Why not wait and see how he'll fare when the recruitment and stability is there for a manager to strive?

One thing is certain, if Sir Rj Is serous, Most of these players will be gone(including the one Ten Hag signed), same way Most of our players too were gone including the one Arteta signed at first too. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:45am On Feb 25, 2024
andrewbaba44:
We wey not rate am Arteta don shut us up with the improvement on him

He has been doing great for arsenal despite a rough start .
Lol... Arteta really tried to be honest.
Na just trophy to seal am else nobody go send the kind of work he did at arsenal grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:31am On Feb 25, 2024
rooftops:
I was surprised about jodera's new truth about jorginho because I have seen him slander jorginho like twice.
I know the real jorgin.ho will open up to them soon, I hope they embrace him as they are doing now grin
I was among those who criticized him especially for his defensive attributes all thanks to Sir Ibi.me continuous propaganda.

Now I've seen the truth and it's not just about ystdy match. Jorginho in a good pressing and quality team would really excel and he's proving so at arsenal this season(even last season too). It just proves that if he's at Man city when guardiola went for him, he'll have been more deadly

If someone does elite performance consistently for months, it's only logical I change mouth and acknowledge him instead of forming agidi upandan.

Havertz is another example. If Havertz consistently drops elite performances, me being his biggest critic will suddenly change mouth. But one thing I won't do is to flip flop.

I won't be like Ibi.me who feels that once a player is in a black book, he'll forever be in that black book no matter what. You think it's a lie? Check his stance on Rodri.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera:
Ibime:
We don't change mind every 3 months like Jodera.

We will just be here for the next wailing. The above are all in November (less than 3 months ago)
Like I said, the Only time Jorginho failed to impress this season is against Tottenham and all these are just after the Tottenham match

You were silent throughout last season (bar the first match 4-2) when Jorginho started playing our matches only to start your slander after the Tottenham match(the emotional anger for making us lose 2 precious points and since he's been on bench). He's been immaculate anytime he started especially right from that Newcastle match and you've been silent ever since

The truth is Jorginho have shut you up no matter how you want to spin it. You claimed he can't be in a top team playing highline except they park double deckers. Consistently he's done it against Man city (1-0), Liverpool (3-1) and now Newcastle(H & A). All these matches we played high line

You should be tendering apologies to him instead of this stubborn head you dey do grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:25am On Feb 25, 2024
andrewbaba44:
Many of us know Jorginho is good but they think we where trolling then

Na harvetz we no rate ,but he is now coming good

Kudos to arteta
Lol, omorr I didn't expect him to be so so good for us like this.

But na that forward passes own surprise me pass. One wouldn't know he had it with him. grin

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