₦airaland Forum

joepentwo:
Abiola my only role model frm Nigeria, the man who had apathy for hatred, he will ever remain in ma hrt!!!

I dey tell you.MKO built hostels in every state university in Nigeria as part of his campaign. He didn't share money or buy votes.

InvertedHammer:
True.

But the aftermath was that a Southerner OBJ was handed the Presidency on a platter of gold through an election.
He still failed woefully. And here we are today.
GEJ won an election even though he is a Southerner as well. I believe there is more to it that region of origin. It is a class war between the elites and commoners. The elites are united by lootocracy while the commoners find solace in wailing (after selling their voting rights for N1k and a few cups of rice).
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I get your point but I am more focused on the domino effect the crisis had on us.

You and I know that Obasanjo was not the real choice of southerners. IBB and co just brought him out of jail, took over PDP and foisted him on the party. It helped douse tension because at that time the SW was READY to secede but it made us all very tribe conscious. Or at least made South/North divide much wider

God have mercy

TRUTHTOPOWER:
IF YOU CANNOT CONTRIBUTE INTELLIGENTLY, THAT MEANS YOU ARE NOT MEANT TO BE IN POL 909. GO AND TRY YOUR BRAIN CAPACITY WITH SOCIAL STUDIES.

Some are saying South West should not vote for PMB or that South West betrayed GEJ. Another opportunity is coming for South West to audit her alignment. To look at the Past the Present and take a decision that will guarantee her political relevance and socio-economic development.

1. For those who believe SW betrayed GEJ pls state what GEJ did for SW

2.For those who say SW shouldn't align with Buhari state what SW stand to gain that is better that what she has already.

3.For those saying SW was short changed, state what your own region will likely get in 2019 should PMB lose.

GEJ did a lot of infrastructural projects in the SW. A lot...

I honestly don't see PMB doing 5% of what GEJ did for the SW even if he stays in Aso rock till 2023

Na wa o. So after the Europeans granted independence to Paul Biya and Buhari's generation when they were young men, they don't want to hear anything about self determination even after 5 decades.

Let us pray that agitators in different countries don't become violent and enter into alliances with one another.

onemanonewife:
history student ! Recall that abiola told author nzeribe that he can do without the igbos at that time and it was trending everywhere am sure that affected the voting pattern yet abiola still won in some Igbo States despite that. Recall also that Humphrey NWOSU the umpire was an Igbo man yet he declared abiola winner despite threat to his life by the military president

Nope! The Igbo states that Tofa won in had governors from his party NRC. Nigeria of that time was not as divided as it is today. If it were today Tofa would not win in any state in the SE whether or not his party controls the government house

InvertedHammer:
Abiola would have been equally as bad as every Nigerian President. What trumps 1). An ex-President supposedly humbled by jail. 2). A peasant with no shoes 3). A meek man with no sentimental attachment to materialism 4).A weeping General that tried multiple times in order to fight corruption in Nigeria.

Their stories were uplifting but they all failed as Presidents. Abiola's narratives wouldn't had been any different. It would had been a litany of broken promises.

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Abiola was no saint. He was a friend of the military, was a past sponsor of coups, a conduit pipe for corruption etc etc but the issue I mean isn't really about him as a person or whether he would have succeeded (though I think he would have done well). Abiola's victory was quashed because he was a southerner. The June 12 elections would have been the first time a southerner would have been elected president.

It divided Nigeria very badly between north and south and led to a lot of bitterness and tribal jingoism. OPC is an offshoot of that crisis

Fawklicant:
Nigeria started failing soon after independence, long before June 12.

Of course the country already had a bad foundation but June12 was what really fragmented Nigeria till today

Hmmmm June 12. That was where Nigeria began to really fail and die. What we have now is a carcass that doesn't know it is not alive

SouthEastFacts:
I am still enjoying my Christmas, I don't have time for long article.

I stumbled upon the quoted this morning, so this short piece is an unedited response to that. When time permits, I shall run a full analysis.


The problem with some Yorubas is nothing but Shallowness. To them Nigeria started in 1999, fourth republic. But if you ask them where SW was before the fourth republic most of them will open their mouth staring at you.

Pre Republican era
First and only Governor General (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First Speaker (Jaja Nwachukwu, Present day, Abia)
First President of the Senate (Nnamdi Azikiwe)

First Republic
First President (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First President of the Senate (Nwafor Orizu)
First Acting President (Nwafor Orizu)
First Foreign Minister (Jaja Nwachukwu)
First GOC, NA (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Military Era
First Military Head of State (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Second Republic
First Vice President (Alex Ekwueme)
First Speaker (Ume Ezeoke)

Third Republic
We already know what happened here.

Abiola a wealthy Yoruba Muslim ran for President on the platform of SDP. He won a decisive victory to become the first and only Southerner to defeat a Northern overwhelming in the North.

Second republic Governors took office on January, 1993, while IBB postponed the Presidential election to June 12. Which he eventually won decisively.

According to New York Times (1993) "Many Yoruba have long resented the domination of Nigeria's political life by the mostly northern Hausa-Falani ethnic group, and were ecstatic when one of their own, Mr. Abiola, appeared to have won the recent balloting," but 11 days later, he annulled the election.

11 days again, on July 4, 1993, General Babangida took Chief Abiola and family into confidence. He told them point blank, 'they' (North) will kill you (MKO) rather than allow you to become the elected President,
Commander-in-Chief of Nigeria'.
https://m.thenigerianvoice.com/news/53716/1/the-secret-behind-the-annulment-of-june-12-amp-wha.html

In 1994, he declared himself President and was imprisoned for 4 years in solitary confinement.

On the day was due to be released, on the 7th July 1998, he died of natural cause after agreeing to renounce his mandate upon learning that the world has abandoned him, telling him they won't recognize a 5 year old election.

The government of Ernest Shonekan that took over from IBB was dismantled within 3 months by the same power that doesn't want Abiola as President. Failing to consolidate his power within 3 months, his government was dismantled with just 40 soldiers.

Announcing his Cabinet list, Shonekan became the First Civilian Head of State to alienate Ndi Igbo from government, giving Ndi Igbo 4 out of 31 Cabinet appointments.

Senate President (NC)
Fourth Republic (First 8 years)
First President (SW)
First Vice President (NE)
First Senate President (SE)
First Speaker (NW)

Note: In the 4th Republic, the SW was just compensated with the Presidency because of the 3rd republic debacle.

To achieve this, all parties were directed to field only SW, because in a liberalized election, Obasanjo the anointed can not win the election. So 4th Republic Presidency is NOT an achievement for the SW, because their own preferred candidate, Olu Falae was roundly defeated, and forced into political irrelevance. In essence, greater Nigeria imposed Obj on the SW.

They were allowed to that position not as a result of political clout or sophistication, but as result of benevolence of Nigerians. In 2003, Obj had to beg Atiku, his subordinate in a kneeling position to allow him complete his term.

www.dailypost.ng/2017/12/11/obasanjo-knelt-atiku-begging-second-term-idahosa/

Fourth Republic (Second administration)
President (NW)
Vice President (SS)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (SW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Note: SW was kicked out of the House after the first tenure. They were not allowed to complete their zoned 8 years. Tambuwal took from Bankole.

Fourth Republic (third Administration)
President (SS)
Vice President (NW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Fourth Republic (fourth Administration)
President (NW)
VP (SW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NE)
Deputy SP (SE)
Deputy Speaker (SW)

Note: VP is the only achievement of SW in the fourth Republic, a position they got by the benevolence and popularity of His Excellency, the President.

When they tested their political clout and sophistication at the national level outside the benevolence of Northern backed political clout, they were roundly defeated and political sophistication demystified during the tussle for the position of SP and Speaker.

The political sophistication of SE/SS got the SE the Deputy SP even though they don't truly deserve it. This means the North still prefer their age lond Political Cooperation with the East to their recent cooperation with the West, even though the East didn't help them achieve the Presidency.

Don't forget the 4th Republic is just 18 years. You don't expect all the 6 regions to produce President within that 18 years. 3 regions have done their part (SW ( SS (4) NW (6, remaining 2 years), 3 are yet to do theirs, hence power is going to NE unfailingly through Atiku. When time comes, nobody will stop Igbo Presidency. SS will as well complete the other 4 years when time comes.

When it comes to politics at National level, SW are just crawling. They can't beat SE political records or ever catch up with them.

The SW got the Presidency and Vice Presidency out of benevolence of people. The same way they love free owambe in real life. The only position they truly fought for President in 3rd Republic and Speaker in fourth Republic they were both disgraced out. While they were not even allowed to test the 3rd Republic Presidency, they were not allowed to complete their 8 years for speakership. Even the Military they got was out of necessity and Obj was pressured to return power to Civilian Government where a North-East cooperation got them the Vice President for a 2 terms.

OP- you left out Admirals Ebitu Ukiwe and Allison Madueke that served as Vice Presidents to Babangida and Abacha respectively. Both men were known for always disagreeing with the corruption and wickedness of their bosses and were soon removed. Madueke in particular was known for opposing Abacha during ruling council meetings. Abacha wanted somebody that would be a good "wife" so he chose Oladipo Diya.

This is the picture of Babangida's first press conference after he overthrew the clueless Buhari regime. That is Ukiwe on the left in white

Jaideyone:
token indeed!!! yet your people keep wailing about 2015 Yoruba betrayal

voted aside
the storm and media wildfire that wrecked Jonathan in 2015 started from the south west!!!
you know how powerful the southwest media is. the southwest gave buhari the new image through tinubu.

lai Mohammed and tinubu led media were the missile guidance system of the opposition ACN/APC. you think buhari would have won the presidential election with CPC and ANPP mergers alone?

you are political neophyte that thinks everything boils down to votes alone

You would have disgraced yourself if you had tried to contest your token votes in 2015. No need for too much talk. What killed Jonathan was

1. America and UK turned against him because of his stand on homosexuality

2. The north had a deal with Jonathan that he broke when he tried to run for a second term. They declared SAK and the rest is history.

Yoruba role was at best a tokenistic contribution

Jaideyone:
lol mumu people. the moment APC picks an IBO candidate is the moment the party dies in the south west.

without Yoruba alliance APC wouldn't have gotten the presidency. after all Yoruba efforts to clean the image of buhari he won't even dare to put forward an ibo candidate.

just my opinion sha. no mumu should quote me

Don't deceive yourself with flaky facts. Yorubas did not get Buhari into office, North-Central did the magic. Your votes were just just token and the north has reminded you of this many times since buhari took over

Kingsley1000:
how i wish apga will field somebody like soludo or umeh,we need to start supporting our own and stop playing second fiddle game to other tribes...why are igbos rooting for atiku?

To be honest Atiku is a better candidate and Igbos have since independence chosen the better candidates. But this time around I think we are getting the sense we never had.

olawalepopoola:
AP what? That regional Party? de day dream ooo

What were ACN and CPC before?

Kingsley10000:
I have noticed that those saying that President Buhari will
never handover to Onye Igbo, are the same people who
claimed that the then President Jonathan would never hand
over to Buhari no matter what.
Igbo Presidency 2023 is real. President Buhari will no only
hand over to an igbo man, he will work for the emergence of
Onye Igbo to succeed him.
In 2003, President Buhari made an Igbo man, the late Chuba
Okadigbo his running mate.
In 2007, he also chose an Igbo man the late Umeh Ezuoke to
be his Vice Presidential candidate.
In 2011, President Buhari wrote to Ohaneze Ndigbo and
requested to go into alliance with Ndigbo and asked that the
two parties meet to go into an agreement.
Lo and behold, Ohaneze Ndigbo met and decided to support
our neighbour Ebele Azikiwe.
Buhari then went to southwest and took Pastor Tunde
Bakare as his running met.
I stated these facts for record purposes. Let's not lose this
opportunity for igbo president come 2023.
President Buhari will support us come 2023, but we must
first of all show commitment in re-electing him in 2019.

One thing is certain. Igbos are not naive anymore. 2015 to date has done something strange to our people. Watch APGA closely between now and 2019

Igwe!!!!

Very unfortunate that this ethnocentric, directionless buhari govt indulges in all this petty wickedness. It ignores a project all year and then waits for Xmas to start working on it knowing that the south-east is the busiest route in the country at that time of the year.

Well done buhari you put thousands of checkpoints on our roads in the east to extort money and cause severe traffic now it's our airports you are targeting. Rubbish country rubbish transport minister rubbish president

Alcatraz005:
What are you saying really? I don’t understand you. Is there any Yoruba person stopping the actualisation of Biafra? Talk to me please.

No other Nigerian tribe maligned and attacked the IPOB/Nnamdi Kanu cause as much as the yorubas. That the north has so much confidence to mess Nigeria up so much is because of you people

ipodstinks:
You for no pay na. Sebi, the hausas n little yorubas in your land are not paying. Mumu.

Who you epp is the question?

Alcatraz005:
I was in the east for a year doing a vocational course and that is enough travel for me {I dont know about my crew though}. I just dont believe that we have more than a few thousand yorubas in the east. Is it my fault? My people dont like leaving their homeland.

A year and you are still lack so much knowledge about Yoruba communities in the east. I am sure you didn't leave your dormitory or wherever you stayed. See the cost of a closed mind? Your people travel a lot from far north to far south and settle but you have no clue. Some yorubas claim Plateau state indigeneship sef

Alcatraz005:
The jury is still out about your phantom claims that there are millions of yorubas in the east{I very much doubt it}. In further response, are we molesting you? We have only woken up and dealing with a potential adversary systematically.

You and your jury need to travel and see the world. Life does not start in Ikorodu and and Ajah. There at least 100 yorubas in my hometown alone. A Yoruba doctor did NYSC in my hometown, stayed behind, married my town's woman and operates his clinic till tomorrow.

I am just tired of these people abeg. They are now crying that Igbos didn't let them get PDP chairman. When it favours them they will say niger delta is not Igbo, when it is convenient they will say Uche Secondus is Igbo.

No need wasting time with this lot

mightyhazel:
its normal, an igboman will admire ur hardwirk and success and den strive to be like u or even better... the yorubaman will see ur success and get into the 'plotting mode' and grief mode.. dats the difference bw dese two groups

Na wa oooo. In my village there are so many badass yoruba tailors doing very very well sotay our own tailors come nearly dey hungry yet nobody is molesting them

Alcatraz005:
If these purported Yoruba Landlords indeed exist in enugu, i bet they dont go about hating on the local populace or saying enugu is a no man's land.

Who cares if they call Enugu no mans land? Who gives a shit So far they are peaceful and pay their bills in Enugu like Igbos do everywhere they live in Nigeria , we will not molest them

Tyche:
I know a lot of Yoruba men that have houses all over Enugu bro.

You see am. Yorubas quietly enjoying their investments without umu okolobia disturbing them for money or chestbeating about "accommodating" yorubas in the east.

igbodefender:
If President Buhari is reelected in 2019, it means the North will complete its turn at producing Nigeria’s president in 2023. Because of that, in 2023, the Igbo would have a bargaining chip that cannot be easily swept off the carpet, in that Igbo would be the only group that has not produced president in 4th Republic.

Remember that since democracy was restored in 1999, the Yoruba have already produced a President; Niger Delta have already produced a President; by 2023 the North would have completed President Yar Ardua’s truncated tenure through President Buhari. It would then be difficult not to give the Presidency to a person of Igbo extraction in 2023.

Igbos, if we don’t play our cards right, by 2040, we may still be talking about Igbo Presidency, without much bargaining chips.

Igbos, Vote Buhari In 2019, So We Can Have A Moral Argument for Igbo Presidency in 2023.
No matter what you think Buhari has done to Igbos in the past, in 2019, vote based on this political calculation.

In politics no permanent enemies but permanent interest in the national good.

Sources:
http://zikistmovement.igbodefender.com/2017/12/13/​igbo-presidency-2023-why-igbos-should-vote-for-buhari-in-2019/

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=927850797340195&id=911901035601838

OP - I like to disagree with you normally but on this I must admit, if they will not grant us a chance at self determination or even common regional government then we might as well play the "Nigerian" game with them

Ndi Igbo will simply have to use "boys oye" morale to back either Buhari or Atiku (who of course I prefer) in 2019.

nobaga:
It took a while but Yoruba youths have started paying Igbo Youths back in their own coin.

This may be strange to those of us that came of age before both youths. The days of accommodation is gone, pity!

Accomodation ni Accompany ko! I dey pay my bills by my self and boosting your local economy. Who una youths epp

This is the map of Nigeria as at October 1, 1960. The British created a massive region made up of many ethnic nationalities like the Gbagyi, Tiv, Eggon, Jukun, Hausa and hundreds of others and called it "Northern region". The fulani of course out of all the ethnic groups there, were the main partners of the British. Based on the large population and land mass the North was awarded more seats at Parliament/National Assembly (till today)

The South was fragmented into East and Western regions with much fewer seats (vote) at the Parliament/National Assembly. (till today)

In short...The south of today with much fewer seats/votes combined at the National Assembly cannot do anything at the National Assembly unless the North is going to gain from it. We know they will not throw away the advantage the British gave their fathers

Xisnin:
Cowards! It was Biafra or Death how did it become Biafra or Restructuring. You guys are as confused as your fugitive terrorist leader.

Your problem is poverty. Hungry, ignorant soul