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agathamari:
Stop! i have said before i knew people who died that day. if you truly knew anything about America or its people you would know that if you so called claims were true the American people (the 5 families in particular) would have already had their justice on whatever politicans hatched such a plan. we didn't need this to justify anything in the middle east - we have been there in one form or another since the mid 1970's. are you claiming now that when bill clinton told the Afghanistan government to release osama bin laden from custody 5 years before hand that the democrats were the ones who hatched this plan? kinda puts a kink in your "evil george bush" propaganda your so fond of. tower 7 has already been explained to you. stop your nonsense and do your research. i suggest opening a book on structural mechanics, physics, chemistry and building codes to name a few.

if you truly knew anything about America or its people you would know that if you so called claims were true the American people (the 5 families in particular) would have already had their justice on whatever politicans hatched such a plan

we didn't need this to justify anything in the middle east - we have been there in one form or another since the mid 1970's

are you claiming now that when bill clinton told the Afghanistan government to release osama bin laden from custody 5 years before hand that the democrats were the ones who hatched this plan?

kinda puts a kink in your "evil george bush" propaganda your so fond of.

tower 7 has already been explained to you. stop your nonsense and do your research. i suggest opening a book on structural mechanics, physics, chemistry and building codes to name a few.

Ubiman:
Please permit me to ask a very pertinent question.

IF THE MEMBERS OF THE FAMILIES OF THOSE UNDESERVING VICTIMS OF THE 9/11 ATTACK WERE TO READ ALL THIS MADNESS, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSE? Please let the sleeping dog lie and stop opening healing wounds cos the memories of those innocent victims will forever remain resh on the minds of those they left behind . john_blaze, you are the one spearheading this so STOP!!!!!!! for a change, think: HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE CAME TO ARGUE THAT YOUR CLOSING FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER WHO MAY BE DIED OF DISEASE DID NOT DIE OF THE DIE, BUT WAS POISONED OR SHOT DEAD BY SOMEONE, HUH?

ichommy:
The UK government needs to be “less deferential” towards the US and more willing to say no to Washington, a group of MPs have said.

The Commons Foreign Affairs committee also said it was wrong to speak of “the special relationship” with the US, as it was fostering other alliances, British Broadcasting Corporation reports.

However, the MPs did agree that the link between the countries was “profound and valuable.”

The Foreign Office said the two nations share a ”unique” bond.

The committee said the phrase “the special relationship” did not reflect the “modern” Anglo-American relationship.

i hope so

It was originally coined more than 60 years ago by Winston Churchill.

The committee said although Britain and the US still had close ties, the UK’s influence had “diminished” as its economic and military power had waned.

“The use of the phrase ‘the special relationship’ in its historical sense, to describe the totality of the ever-evolving UK-US relationship, is potentially misleading, and we recommend that its use should be avoided,” the committee said.

“The overuse of the phrase by some politicians and many in the media serves simultaneously to de-value its meaning and to raise unrealistic expectations about the benefits the relationship can deliver to the UK.”

Three Labour MPs and two Conservatives voted unsuccessfully for the recommendation to be dropped but were over-ruled.

The committee said that the relationship was more associated now with the perceived support Britain gave to President George W. Bush over the Iraq war.

“The perception that the British government was a subservient ‘poodle’ to the US administration leading up to the period of the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath is widespread both among the British public and overseas,” it said.

“This perception, whatever its relation to reality, is deeply damaging to the reputation and interests of the UK.”

The committee also said US President Barack Obama had taken the same “pragmatic” attitude as it was recommending now since entering the White House in 2009.

It said, “The UK needs to be less deferential and more willing to say no to the US on those issues where the two countries” interests and values diverge.


http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201003296513176

Eddeux:
I can't believe people are still talking about this. The man is president and is already proven to be born in the U.S, all this is is right-wing BS 

The rumour and conspiracy I heard about is that you actually never went to school, and what ever result you have is a fraud. Will you publish a copy of your result for us to see?

cap28:
moderator can you tell me why you are afraid of posting opinions which are critical of america's foreign policy - are you afraid that they will close this forum down? what is the point of having a forum for debate if you censor opinions that you disagree with ?

The fact that i have pointed out things which i feel cripple my people does not mean that i am bashing them, im merely holding up a mirror and saying: this is who we are. there is no point going through life in denial because sooner or later you will be forced to confront the truth no matter how hard it is.

i think i did give constructive criticism as i pointed out how we could redress the problem of mass ignorance that many of us suffer from - i talked about re education, not from a white man's perspective but from an african perspective, where, instead of focusing on mimicing people who look at us with contempt, we look back to our great history and develop on that, our ancestors achieved many great things but those achievements were derailed by slavery and colonialism.

the truth is that the average nigerian DOES worship the white man and every thing he stands for, take for instance the current sad state of our country, what is the genesis of this problem? i wont go as far back as slavery because a lot of what happened then was outside our control but lets look at the post independence period - why has it been so easy for the british and now the americans to have a hold over our economy? isnt it because our ruling elite have colluded with them and have assisted them in the systematic plunder of our economy? why would any proud african who loves his people allow foreigners to hijack their economy and cause the poverty, misery and suffering of their own people?

i was impressed by the nigerian twins in the link you provided, however this only highlights my earlier point which is that we are capable of doing great things but we prefer to live in the shadow of our former colonial masters - we can equally nurture talented kids like that in nigeria if our govts provided adquate funding for education instead of diverting the monies into their private bank accounts - those kids actually grew up in deprived parts of london but because they were in an environment which was conducive for learning they excelled - these things are all possible in nigeria, if we could only get the right sort of govt in place. these kids should be nigeria's future mathmeticians, physicists and scientists but i can see a situation where their knowledge and skills will be used towards the development of a western economy when we need these sort of brains in nigeria in order to compete on an equal footing with western economies.

you talk about nigerians being the smartest minority in the united states, well if we are so smart why in god's name is our country in such a deplorable state , why cant these "smart" people come up with ideas on how to dislodge these criminal psychopaths who have been decimating our economy in collaboration with their white masters so that they dont have to run away to america and europe in order to "make it", isnt it time that these self proclaimed intellectuals did something about the downward spiral of our country instead of pontificating from their ivory towers about their so called fantastic acheivements.

individual success means nothing if 80% of your population lives on the equivalent of less than $2 a day - your link confirmed that nigerians are a tiny minority in the US and therefore any successes they achieve has no impact overall on the lot of an average nigerian anywhere else in the world, nigerians do not work together as a unit in the way that the chinese, indians and other minority groups in europe or america do, we are selfish and individualistic this is why as a race of people we remain backward and at the mercy of the white race. the average white man beleives in working collectively towards the betterment and progress of his people as a whole (to the exclusion of other races) a white man will never sell out his own people to favour someone of another race, whites always put their own people first, in addition a white man will come up with ideas that will create jobs for his people and lift everyone out of poverty, a nigerian will think of how he can better himself alone so that he can look down on his fellow nigerians, the current tragic situation in nigeria is a clear reflection of that. we make enough money from oil revenue that we should be able to guarantee every nigerian citizen a decent standard of living, free education up to university level, excellent infrastructure, free healthcare and adequate employment, but what do we have instead? mass poverty, mass unemployment, non existent healthcare, terrible infrastructure , deteriorating standards of education the list goes on.

by the way these so called "achievements" of our people in america that you talk of would have been impossible had it not been for the courage and sacrifice made by many great african american leaders who challenged the white supremacist power structure, something that our so called leaders, intellectuals and working people are yet to do in our own country.

cap28:
ignorance is bliss, but only for a limited time  - i suggest you research into the CIA's background before you condemn.

are you aware of the CIA's activities in africa do you know that they have been responsible for the overthrow of almost all african heads of state since the 1970's?

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/stock1.html

Mariory:
Understanding written English not strong with you I guess.

blacksta:
So mr john blaze why change username from NegroNtns?  _ A fresh start i guess but the fact still remains " you can take boy out of jungle but you cant rid the jungle out of the thug"

Beaf:
It is not possible for sensible statements to sound reasonable to the unreasonable.

Your topic is unreasonable. Therefore you are. . .

coldhearts:
Thanks john_blaze  but i don't think Nigerians or most of africa suffer from mental slavery at all. I'm not sure why you wrote that (maybe that's pushing it a bit too far). You have to understand that the average Nigerian doesn't care about "whites" nor slavery - be it mental or whatever lol. This is a good thing because nothing stops them from accomplishing any task when they choose to- most live, work hard (try to be self sufficient however possible) then die off- end of story (just like many places in the world). Granted we have more hardship, hopefully that would ease in the future with good leadership.

This is in contrast to the american mentality or maybe south africa because people of different race and a history of apartheid have to associate closely with each other but i think many people are getting over that with recent black accomplishments.

Anyway, Nigeria has a lot of good people and they persevere really well and their perseverance and patience is not to be confused with mental slavery or maybe i don't understand what you mean  .

coldhearts:
Apparently, greed is the new norm

In Nigeria? It's next to nothing.A police officer can take you out for less than N50 irrespective of who you are!

"But look at China and Africa today! What made the big difference? Faced with the same White Peril as the Africans, the Chinese, from 1840 onwards, went into a political and social convulsion and into an intellectual ferment. The Chinese people staged reform and revolutionary movements which aimed to extricate China from the foreigners grip, rebellions flared up repeatedly against the Chinese Government for being ineffective in defending China from foreign invaders"

"The Maoists founded , the People's Republic of China-and then made sure that no foreign power could control any aspect of production or culture in China. They reconstructed China completely, changed its internal and external economic relations, industrialized it and built up its power. Along the way, they fought America and its imperialist allies to a draw in Korea, China eventually joined the UN in 1971 and the WTO in 2001, it was not on terms dictated by the imperialists. China did not diminish its sovereignty to get some transient economic advantage." byDr. Chinweizu

I think some Nigerians are still unaware of how far china has gone. Perhaps its time we break this vicious cycle/white peril we find ourselves in. We can take good knowledge from western nations but we don't have to let them control our resources/markets and affairs. No one has our interest in mind, no foreigner ever has, it's simply up to us and our leaders even if it means splitting, strengthening our borders e.t.c.

That quick foreign money our elders/leaders pocket so quickly is a slap in the face to next generation - maybe some elders are not as smart and humble. Actually, we could have made more money if we had good leaders, I hope Pres. Jonathan will be tough and make necessary changes. The old alliances didn't work too well, so it's time to learn humbly and make new ones.
Enough is Enough

but why cant his records simply be released for public scrutiny?   i dont get it.



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Hawaii considering law to ignore Obama 'birthers'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate