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Tinubu's supporters will tell you who is lying!

Best for Naija? LWKMD!

Truth be told, the days of USA's overwhelming superpower influence are quickly coming to an end.

Kingdoms/empires and nations will rise and fall. The years of their influnce wane with one significant world event or the other.

Remember the Persians, Romans (Pax Romana), British empire (on which the sun never used to set)?

After the second world, the British empire gradually crumbled and the influence of America rose.

The disgrace of US is Somalia, blind invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and routing in Vietnam are all blood trails left behind by a fatally wounded giant.

Military invasion of Libya might be the final deathblow to American bigmanism a la law of unintended consequences.

Depsite the attraction of oil, invasion of Libya would be ill advised and I think the Yanks know that.

Politicians are the same the world over. Most would do ANYTHING to get your vote.
Reminds me of that movie: Swing Vote.

Like Lincoln said:
"You can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all the time."

You have can see how his supporters have ignored this thread like it did not exist!

I dey laff.

Abraham Lincoln said:

"You can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all the people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all the time."

So, Tinubu supporters, is Bafarawa the PDP agent Tinubu was referring to?

From:
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76092:day-bode-george-returned-to-lagos-politics&catid=655:analysis&Itemid=785

More detailed record of the sermon from Compass Newspaper:

While delivering a message titled: ‘A Minister and a Witness, the Canon of the Church, Ven. Tayo Aduloju, noted that the service had generated a lot of interest from different quarters and from many people.

He said: “Some people wondered why we should hold a thanksgiving service for Bode George who is not penitent? Others say he will bring stolen money to the church; others say he will bring politicians to the church to corrupt the church; yet others say he might have given us money.

“Really, I have seen a lot of politicians here today and outside there are bandstands like a political rally.

“But, it is better to be in the presence of God, than in the presence of Satan who has nothing good to offer. Cathedral Church of Christ, Marina, Lagos, is blessed with prominent people and Chief Olabode George is one of them. We have financial resources and do not need to do any Finebara, either for any individual, government or for any dubious means; we don’t need your money.

“It is very good that you are here, I am very sure that you will not invite a man of God, a Pastor, to come and preach at your rally, but you have brought yourself here, and we must tell you the truth. I am not one of the Priests, one of the Pastors who will sugar coat you, who will be currying favour of people, who will be afraid to tell the people the truth, because what we do here is to prepare people for heaven; any soul that is lost through any pastor, he will pay for it. Any blood that is shed through any pastor he will pay for it, but it is good for you to make heaven than for you to die and go to hell.

“It is not a one-man church or a private business that is profit oriented, the only gift God wants from you today, is for you to give your life to Christ, so that he can transform you and make you a better person; that is the only way your presence here can be of any good to him.

“If you are here for political reasons, if you are here to mess up Bode George, if you are here to criticize the priest of this church, I leave you to your conscience and to God; God will surely judge your motive for being here today.

“It is better for you to be blessed by God than to be judged, because the Bible says it is a terrible thing to fall into the hand of the living God.

“Chief Olabode George, you are a member of this church, and nobody can deny this fact; people may deny you, but God will never deny you. People you have helped, friends and some relatives may have denied you, but Jesus will never deny you, and that is why the Bible says that you have an advocate with the father, Jesus is your advocate.

“That you are a Christian does not mean you cannot go wrong, it does not mean you cannot sin, it does not mean you cannot falter, man condemns you, but Jesus will never condemn you.”

He advised George not to think of paying back those who did him in, and sent him to jail, “this is not a time for you to brook, or worse still plan for revenge, if you do that that means you are ungrateful to God who did not allow you to die in prison, in this country we know that a General died in prison, but you went, God protected you, God has brought you out for a purpose”.

He also urged him to henceforth live a sober live, conscious of where God brought him out from, adding: “Your prayers to God now is for him to show you the way forward, to grant you the grace to live a righteous and sober life, so that the end of your life will be better than the beginning, if you go ahead with arrogance, if you are found where elections are rigged, if you are in any way near where papers are forged or falsified or you are involved in any shady deal, that means you have not learnt anything from your imprisonment.

“When I was in secondary school, you were the governor of my state. I am from Ondo State; you became a Commodore in the Nigerian Navy, The PDP South West Chairman, NPA Chairman and your party the PDP is still ruling, all these put together, political powers, military power, economic power, could not and did not prevent you from being imprisoned; what does that tell you? It shows that real powers belong to God and not to man, power belongs to God, not to man, not to PDP, not to any party, power belongs to God. Remember that you are a governor today tomorrow you will be, you are anybody today, tomorrow you will not be, tomorrow I will not be here.

“I don’t want you to leave the rest of your life in bitterness, chasing after shadows, you can borrow a leave from Dr. Nelson Mandela, who didn’t allow bitterness to ruin his life; you must learn from the best, you must show that you are penitent; you must show that you are sober, you must show that you have had an encounter with the Lord. I asked him just before the service in my Vestry, why are you here today? Why are you doing this thanksgiving? Is it for you to justify yourself, to say oh I didn’t do it? He said, no, God protected him he didn’t allow him to die in prison, and for the encounter he had with him; for the relationship he developed with Jesus Christ and that you should not let go.

“If you are outside in the last two years you could have been killed, through accident, through poison or by any means, you must be grateful to God.”

Aduloju told George who was flanked by his wife Roli and the Ogun State governor, Otunba Gbenga Daniel not to be deceived by the mammoth crowd, because, according to him, many of them came with different intentions: “I have seen people from all walks of life, some are Christians, some are Muslims, some come to felicitate with you, some to see your countenance, whether you are remorseful or not; some coming to listen to me whether I will praise you or not, some here they are just looking for your endorsement so that they will win elections; they are here for different reasons, but you know why you are here, that it is because of God, it is because of his protection and unmerited favour as you called it.

“As from today you have become an ambassador for Christ; you are to represent Christ wherever you find yourself more than ever. In your party, in your home, in your society, everywhere you find yourself, it is what you do now after this thanksgiving that matters, not what you have done before, God is not a God of yesterday, He is a God of now and tomorrow.

“Never again will the name of the Lord be brought to shame through you, you will not disgrace God, God will not disgrace you.

Looking straight into the audience, the priest said, “you politicians must allow him to settle down, let him commune with his God, at over 60 you are not getting younger, you must prepare for heaven everyday as you wake up, that does not mean you are going to die tomorrow.

“To all the politicians, if you will not take anything away from this service, remember that Proverbs 16: 27 says a greedy man brings trouble to his family, but he who hates bribe will live. Greed for money, greed for power, greed for anything will only bring you trouble; greed and selfishness has destroyed our value system, our economy and our nation; it will bring more troubles upon you, please shun corruption, thuggery, greed, selfishness, bribery and all will be well with you.”

Report from:
http://www.champion.com.ng/displaycontent.asp?pid=4826

We should avoid overt generalisations when we make comments.

The comments about the church by some posters on this thread is in bad taste.

Read excerpts the cleric's sermon:

Bode George confesses:My jail years were �University of Life� experience
Published on 27 February 2011 with 1 comments   

�You can now serve God�Cleric

By UFOMBA UZUEGBU, Asst News Editor

Former deputy National Chairman of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) Chief Olabode George was yesterday, admonished to shun fair whether friends and live the rest of his life in the service of God. George, also told reporters his prison years were �University of Life experience.

Bode George breathed the air of freedom yesterday as the two and half years jail term slammed on him and five others by Justice Olubunmi Oyewole of Lagos state High Court ended. He had spent sixteen months behind bars.

Preaching a sermon at a special thanksgiving service at the Cathedral church of Christ, Marina, Lagos in his honour, the Canon Residentiary of the church, Ven Tayo Adulojo enjoined Chief George to shun fair weathers friends and remain in the presence of the Lord; trusting in God�s sufficiency at all times.

The cleric said "the request to God now, is to show you (George) the way forward; to grant you grace to live a righteous and sober life.

"If you go ahead with arrogance, if you are found where elections are rigged; if you are involved in shaddy deals, that means you have not learnt anything from your imprisonment. You must show that you are sober, you must show that you�ve had an encounter with the Lord."

Admonishing Chief George further, the cleric also said, "you were a Commodore in the Nigeria Navy, chairman of PDP S/West, former chairman of Nigeria Ports Authority (NPA) and your party the PDP, is still ruling.

"All these put together-military power, political power and economic power could not and did not prevent you from being jailed. And what does that teach us? It shows that real power belongs to God and not to man."

Ven Aduloju advised the embattled George to be careful of those who would be parading themselves before him because of what they would be getting from him. He advised such people to allow the man to settle down first.

Continuing, Ven Aduloju said "people have said a lot of things ranging from Bode is not penitent. Bode can never change. He will bring stolen money to the church and that means that we are legitimizing corruption.

"Some one said we should not go ahead with this service altogether and if we do, the entire world will believer that Bode has given us a lot of money. "Some of them are here. Some of them are your friends. Some of them are also your party members.

But my answer to them is simple; it is better to go to the church than be with the satan who will give them fame, power and money but will eventually destroy them.

"If Satan gives you anything, he will take something from you. It is better to be in the presence of the Lord than be with the devil ".

Meanwhile, Chie George told journalists shortly after the service that he had learnt a lot from the prison years. According to him the period of the incarceration could be described as �a University of Life experience�. He promised to put down his experience in a book to be published in the future.

He declined to answer more questions from journalists, noting that he �today is meant for thanksgiving�

For those of you who are crucifying the OP, read this paragraph from Richard Dowden, director of the Royal African Society on BBC's website. Is Dowden ignorant as you say the OP is?

"Libya was the main route for ambitious young Africans trying to get to Europe and make a life for themselves. Libya's own, booming economy also absorbed a lot of Africans. Yet Gaddafi actually encouraged xenophobia against them.

Rather than protecting them, he would expel them en masse from time to time. So there is this tension between sub-Saharan, black Africans and the Libyans, which the government has never properly dealt with.

I think that some of them now have probably nothing to lose. If they are given guns and told to use them, they may well do so. Many of them may be mercenaries in the pay of Gaddafi. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12553089

RSA, I respect your views and know that giants exist only in dream land but would you do an advert for Nigeria and refer to Nigeria as "the true rainbow nation" knowing that the ad would be shown on SA TV?

From the blog: Ugometrics-

http://ugodre..com/2011/02/that-south-african-advert-i-despise.html

Here's someone who shares my sentiments:

UGOMETRICS

The way things measure up,  well, in my view!!
Tuesday, February 8, 2011

That South African Advert I despise, !

I can't count how many times I turn on the mute button whenever I hear "this is Bimbo Somolu and I am Seun Somolu, " it kinda eats deep into me.

At times I wonder, Could it be for my patriotism or just my disdain for undue exploitation? Well, whatever it is I sure didn't like the idea of 2 Nigerians uttering the word "South Africa is truly the Giant of Africa". Call it jealous if you will, considering the fact that Nigeria probably isn't the Giant of Africa except in the realms of the imagination of our leaders past, present and maybe the future.

Where then lies my grouse? If for any reason South Africa decides to call itself the Giant of Africa they sure deserve to, but not from the mouth of Nigerians. The concept of the advert which was to have Tourist and Heroes of South Africa give glorifying remarks about their experience in the country was quite ingenuous in comparison to the pitiful "This is Nigeria, the Heart Beat of Nigeria" from our dear OBJ which ran the airwaves a few years back

However, none of the characters in the South Africa advert made any comment characterizing South Africa as a better country than theirs or any other for that matter. Not even the South Africans themselves. It just had to be the Nigerians isn't it? I don't know how you feel about it but as far as I'm concerned, the whole concept is lost on me and remains that South African Advert I despise.

For the mute button it instinctively gets turned on!!

From:
http://www.travelpulse.com/south-african-tourism-features-ordinary-people-in-ad-campaign.html

South African Tourism Features Ordinary People in Ad Campaign

October 04, 2010 11:29 PM

South African Tourism’s new campaign, launched at the end of September, tracks eight ordinary people on extraordinary South African holidays to show the genuine delight, wonder and amazement that South Africa evokes in visitors. The campaign was devised to succeed the global prominence South Africa won as host nation of the 2010 FIFA World Cup.


“We wanted to maintain our strong brand prominence in the wake of the World Cup,” said Roshene Singh, chief marketing officer at South African Tourism. “However, we also wanted to put daylight between our destination allure and our status as World Cup host nation. South Africa is not only a profoundly capable global event host. It’s also an exciting, beautiful, friendly holiday destination. This is the first time that a global destination marketing campaign has a ‘reality TV’ element. The participants, for example, had no idea in the evening what they would be doing the following day. So the material is fresh, authentically exciting and completely realistic. It’s brutally honest. It’s intimate and personal.”

For the campaign, four couples were invited on a South African holiday for 10 days. Each couple undertook a different itinerary, in an attempt to cover the length and breadth of the country. Their experiences ranged from great white shark cage diving to gourmet dining experiences, safari, clubbing, mountain biking, picnicking, museum visits, hot air ballooning, and luxurious safari experiences. Each couple was accompanied by a small television crew. Every experience caught on film is authentic. Their response to South Africa is refreshing and believable in its sincerity.

The couples are, from Nigeria, Seun and Ambibola (Bimbo) Somolu; from the U.K., Andrew Smith and Hannah St Paul; from the U.S., Artie and Carol Rosenblatt; and from India, Gurjap Singh and Radha Brahmbhatt. The reality TV-like footage of their holidays is being taken to the global market in the form of 60-second television commercials that will be screened on BBC World, CNN International, the National Geographic Channel, EuroSport and Sky; social media content; cinema commercials; and vignettes.


The campaign also focuses on South Africans. According to Singh, “The World Cup proved once and for all that South Africans are the happiest, friendliest and most welcoming bunch of people on earth. In this campaign, our visitors interact with ordinary South Africans. Again, none of this is scripted. It captures the genuine warmth of our people and the sincere friendliness that people encounter from South Africans no matter where they go in South Africa, and no matter where they come from.”

South African Tourism’s latest campaign went live around the world on Sept. 20. For a sneak preview of the campaign, visit www.southafrica.net. South African Tourism is the national tourism agency responsible for the marketing of South Africa as a preferred tourist destination. It is headed up Chief Executive Officer Thandiwe January-McLean, and Acting Chief Operating Officer and Chief Marketing Officer Roshene Singh. For information, see www.southafrica.net.

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CNN and Al Jazeera have shown captured mercenaries and their passports. I saw some from Niger, Chad and even Ethiopia.

Obama's statement on Libya:

Condemns violence
Change in the region is driven bt the people not US or others.

None of the the contributors to the thread has said if they would do the same advert- the same words.

Would you?

Blacksta(r), are you from Ghana?

Gadhafi's former head of protocol has just confirmed on Al Jazeera that the mercenaries are from Niger, Chad and Guinea.

Gadhafi's daughter has reportedly been turned back by Malta where she fled to with a jet.

I am glad that you agree that they are poking fun at Nigeria using Nigerians.

That is what I disagree with and think is pathetic!

Funny enough, I did not pay attention to that advert done by the britons when it was being aired. That should count in favour of the SA ministry who have used Nigerians to sell their country in Nigeria. Would a SA citizen of the same pedigree as the Somolus do a similar advert to be shown in SA extolling Nigeria as the rainbow nation of Africa?

I rejoice with SA for the abilitiy to project such a positive image not only for themselves but for the whole of Africa. As Mrs Somolu gleefully said at the end of the ad, we should all be proud that we are Africans seeing that they can rival any other nation on the globe.

I guess my funny feeling each time I hear that bit (just saw it the third time this evening) has something to do with my sadness at the sorry state of Nigeria's tourism industry. A feeling about what could have been.

I have no qualms with the quality of the advert but using Nigerians to poke fun at Nigeria is what I am not okay with.

I just saw the ad again (second time in 10 minutes). Okay, she did not say that part gleefully - sorry - but still each time I hear that part, something feels funny about it.

That giant of Africa bit to me is a tongue in cheek reference to Nigeria.

I am glad you realise that.


The way she gleefully said it is another matter.

Nigeria,s foreign minster says there are no immediate plans to evacuate Nigerians from Libya according to Channels TV.

He says Nigerians there are not in danger.

I am shocked!

I experience this churning in my stomach each time I hear/see this advert in which a Nigerian couple extol South Africa with the wife even saying that SA is the giant of Africa.

Gov Fashola expressed similar emotions towards the advert recently.

Even if offered millions of USD/GBP/Euro or Rands, I would not do such an advert.

Would you?

Hmm,

^^
ROFLMAO like Kobojunkie!

The Arab League has suspended Libya from its meetings.

A slap on the wrist. IMO

Talking about him going down like Mubarak, I find it interesting that when people got out on the street in Egypt, Mubarak and his foreign minister said "this is Egypt, not Tunisia." He insisted that he would not go because the country go fall into chaos.

Now Saif, Gaddafi's son also says his father will not go that Libya is not Egypt or Tunisia. Gadaffi is also trumpeting his many victories like Mubarak did in his last speech.

Mubarak said this is not Tunisia and then he fell.

Gaddafi also says this is not Tunisia or Egypt. Won't he fall also.

At last, the speech ends.

As the commentator on Al jazeera said, there is no one there to listen to him.

He has been rambling for about one hour now.

He says instability in Libya will give Al Quaeda a foothold.