MetaPhysical:


Thanks OP.

This is all I can offer you on the subject. I know someone that could have helped but I learnt he travelled to remote area. Give shout to imperial Yoruba and see if he has idea.

This might surprise you but there are many Yoruba names that are hard to tell who the original owner is.
Abubakar - Bakare. (Bukar in Kanuri)
Badhmus - Badamosi or Gbadamosi
Al Amin - Lamina
Dawud - Dawuda
Al Awiy - Alawiye
Mustafa - Tafa
Adam - Adamo

Abubakar is actually Abubakar Sadiq. Yoruba call it Abu Sondoko.

In christianity
Peter - Apata
Gabriel - Gebu
Solomon - Salome

ReysonDrabek:


Only reason i can think of for a hausa muslim not going to a yoruba mosque is most yorubas are salafs and most hausas are sunni muslims and staunch sunnis avoid salaf mosques even in the north. Other wise this whole idea that we see yorubas as inferior muslims is a myth. Yes maybe a good percentage of yorubas arent as devout as northern muslims and you may even meet some that visit both mosques and churches but that doesnt disqualify yoruba muslims as a whole as they are sometimes even more religious than northern muslims. Anyone who discriminates mosques based on ethnicity is on his own.

The salaf sunni divide is why you rarely find many yorubas named after Abubakar or any of the caliphs and companions.

As for differences in names, yes northerners tend to stick to the original pronunciations but even then the names arent perfect in many instances, like Adam in arabic is Adamu in hausa. But these deviations are less noticeable because hausa and arabic belong to the same language family.

MetaPhysical:

Yoruba language is tonal (melodious), names that are naturally dis-toned are adapted and then toned. This is where the difference largely come from. Because our language is tonal we also look for name rhymes.

Traditionally Yoruba bear names denoting divine cause (amu t'Orunwa) + individual personality (oriki) + circumstance in delivery (abiso) + family pedigree (ebi). Then as a Yoruba child grows his/her physicality will result also in an alias name.

Example-
Divine caused - Ogunmuyiwa
Personality - Aremu
Circumstance - Ojo
Family - Ogunjobi
Alias - Aguntasolo or Ejiwunmi.

For the individual in this example all the names are tonal but Aremu....or even Aremu Ojo is far more rhythmic that say Ogunmuyiwa. Therefore[b] by the time he is in late teens Aremu Ojo would likely have stuck on him than any other in the list. [/b]

Yoruba apply this same structure and sense to foreign names.

In the example above the traditional divine cause are being replaced with foreign names such Mohammed, Salam, Michael, Samuel, Aisha, Deborah...

So now remove Ogunmuyiwa from the above example and insert Abubakar or David.

Yoruba are likely to frame it to Aremu Abu and David Ojo respectively.


Sometimes if the divine caused would sound better behind the oriki we will reorder it to fit...as long its rhythym on the tongue is smooth, we dont mind that the name sequence loose their order of priority.

Bola Ahmed, Tunde Rahman...

Female names are treated somewhat differently. Their names are naturally toned and rhythmic.

Halimatu Saadia, Hauwa nanatu.....Yoruba can treat female names like the male ones I gave above. Sariu Abebi, Nimota Akanke, Moriamu Amope.

MetaPhysical:


I dont know if this answered your question but hope it advances the thought a bit towards the goal.

moshuur:

Am a Muslim, a yoruba ,living in Yoruba land and am telling u dat we bear names like Abdullah etc.If u doubt am,na ur own 'Issue' be that

moshuur:

Who told u dat Yorubas do not bear d names Musa,Abubakar and Abdullah?.I know Yoruba people bearing those names

you4me:
1.Abubakar bukola saraki 2.bolaji abdullahi.3.saidu dakin-gari 4.Abdulrashid maina. So the issue of the likes of wasiu rasheed etc are names of allah so you need the prefix of "abdul" meaning "servant"before calling them eg. Abdulrahman(servant of the merciful) and a northerner will prefer calling you "abdul" alone than rashid or wasiu. And about the issue of differences in going to mosques. Same way christians have denominations they exist in islam and again we have four school of thoughts in islam. I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER

schoolboij:



Lol. You've been fooled. They hide under the SS names to dish out their hate and propaganda.

schoolboij:


You are discussing an intellectual matter with an iboman whose only reasoning in life is hate and bigotry. Don't expect an intelligent conversation. That's the way they are.

molybdenum0012:
I am not a Muslim but this is what I think make the difference. Yoruba muslims usually "yorubanize" their Islamic name in pronunciation and spelling . For instance, Mustapha becomes Tafa, Ahmed becomes Amedu, Abdul becomes Abudu and so on.


Hope this makes sense to you, Op

Born2Breed:


Lol.
Before you start blabbing about intellectualism and then sounding unintelligent. My maiguard is a 62yrs old Muslim scholar refered to as Malam, he has mini makaranta where he teaches other maiguard kids/teens in my locality.

Born2Breed:

Majority of Muslims reads the Quran from the original language Arabic. Unlike the Christians whose Bible are translated to several languages. Why change Yeshua to Jesu if the only Bible version I've read is in Hebrew.

Born2Breed:


This is not ethnic bashing but the fact. My maiguard don't go to Yoruba mosques,his claims are they are fake Muslim's.

He even make mention of how different their Arabic names are.

Born2Breed:
Their masters claims are....

Our slaves are fake Muslim's.

anonimi:


He should and he will from any of different possibilities, including the beneficiaries of the borehole that has become necessary due to governors and LGA chairmen abandoning their responsibility to provide tap water to the people as it was in the past.
Many thanks for your humanity-inspired thoughts. Bravo!
His story reminds me of that juju song where the man chose patience and finally got wealth, children and health plus long life. Was that Obey or Sunny who sang it

asuustrike1:
Any improvement on the road construction?

johnie:


Maybe we should explore the likely causes of the stalling of those two projects on the other thread: What's happening on the Badagry axis.

That should resurrect it!