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Barristter07:
Still the same word with same meaning , but Exclude Jehovah because is the Creator .all others including the Messiah are creations , hence their use of the term has limit just as the different between God and god . Elohim may be applied to others, but it has limits since they are creations



Almighty was never applied to Jesus Christ.

lie lie barrister™, it certainly was:

the previous verses 5,6 and 7 john spoke about Jesus, and then in verse 8 Jesus says:

Rev_1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

^^^ john called the Alpha and Omega(Jesus), the almighty

in verse 11 the Alpha and Omega spoke again
John turned to see Him, he saw Jesus, the Almighty, as in verse 8:

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Maximus69:



©It's only your organization that's vilified globally

lying pharisee, false jw, mad™ max

hypercrit, you false jw's villify christians even on this forum

far more christians are villified and persecuted worldwide,
in saudi arabia, china, north korea, indonesia, etc.etc.
than you false jw's

when you false jw's are villified, it's because you lie habitually, are puffed up, are sewer mouth braggarts, etc.

blueAgent:
You failed to tell me how God is the head of Christ and still Christ is the same God of himself
does it make sense to you?

Christ is not the same God of Himself, oh most confused one

hint, two persons, one God, as in john 1:1 and many other scriptures showing Jesus to be God

blueAgent:
I somehow agree with you but am having a little doubt or concerns on your statement that " the word is the same eternal spirit that is God" can you elaborate on it pls.

your dad begat you, you and your dad are of the human spirit

Father God begat the Word, the Word and his Father are of the God Spirit, God is a Spirit

not two spirits - not two gods as false jw's believe

OnPointMan:
How does this relate to the Op?

if you open your eyes and read the posts, you will see it's to do with what some were saying in this thread,
go back to sleep

blueAgent:
If you read proverbs 8:22 you will understand that God brought Jesus into existence which trinitarians deny by claiming Jesus is as old as his father.

God(Father-Spirit) begat the Word-bought Him forth, so the Word is that same Eternal Spirit that is God(Father)
the word only had a beginning as a seperate person to God(Father)
God's Word-Wisdom always existed in God

blueAgent:
You see how you twist your explanation without Bible verses or facts to prove it.

i twisted nothing oh lying false jw, that's why you couldn't show where i do the twist
but then you false jw's are natural false accusers and everything that your father and god the devil is

blueAgent: 1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head
of Christ is God.

So God is the head of himself in your logic?

no, God(Father) is the head of Christ(Son) oh know nothing

HedwigesMaduro:
There is a solution to all these arguments. Jesus Christ is God by nature and authority given to him by the Almighty God who is the Father. Jesus is definitely not the Almighty Father.

clearly the Son is not the Father, they are two persons who are the one God, john 1:1
God is a Spirit, so the only begotten Son is of that same spirit that is God

many scriptures show that Jesus is God, that Jesus is YHWH
if you are not aware of them ask and i will post some

Father and the Word are not two gods as polytheist false jw's believe, almighty god the father and mighty god jesus

HedwigesMaduro: We can get this in the bible through this way we answer these questions scripturally; Does Jesus Christ have a god? Does YHWH Almighty have a God? Thanks God bless.

Jesus' God is His Father, and His Father also called Jesus God

Janosky:
Malvis & Gbagbo lying Pharisees, agents of man made scam, Acts 2:36, who made Jesus a lord?
So in your brain scrubbed minds, what Peter said on earth (for which bible verses? ) in the physical realm surpassed Jesus words in the spiritual realm?
Indeed, your claims to being Christians na wash !!
Shame on you lying Pharisees.
I challenge you and all Trinitarians to twist Revelation 3:12....
Jesus Christ spoil market for una Trinity....
Lols

Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

as for me, i won't twist rev 3:12 or any scripture, like you do oh most dishonest one


God the Word - the Lord Jesus Christ will make him that overcometh a pillar in the temple of His Father God
and he shall go out no more, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him the name of His Father God
and the name of the city of His Father God which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down from Heaven from His
Father God, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him His new name

nothing difficult there, now how does satan and his mob make you see that verse, oh so great know nothing

of course you lie and say that the Word - Jesus Christ is not God but is "a god"

you say god had a god with him, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say god created the world through another god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say father is almighty god and jesus is mighty god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw

Father and the Word are two persons, one God
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly there was no other god(a god) with God:
Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:


truly the Father is God
truly the Word is God
truly the Holy Spirit is God

ask for scripture on any of that, get to it now, oh most duh one

God has taken a people for His name, that people is Israel

1Ki_8:16  Since the day that I brought forth my people Israel out of Egypt, I chose no city out of all the tribes of Israel to build an house, that my name might be therein; but I chose David to be over my people Israel.

Isaiah 43:6-7,
I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

God is called El: "El ohim", "El shaddai"

Israel is called by God's name: "Isra el"

God's Holy Angels are also called by God's name: "Micha el", "Gabri el", "Rapha el", "Uri el"





Jesus is called Christ

Christians are called by Christ's name: "Christ ians"

Act_11:26  And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

1Pe_4:14  If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

providence338:
He had skin like burnt brass and hair like WOOL.

He was a Black man. The Israelites were a Black people.

The people in Israel who call themselves "jews" look NOTHING like the people around them.

They're imposters.

Jesus is white (Caesar Borgia..google this name).

But YAHSHUAH HA'MASHIACH IS A BLACK MAN!

it doesn't matter what color skin Jesus had, but this description is of Jesus
in His Glorified immortal body in heaven:

His head was white, and His hair also
His feet like fine brass (which is a golden color)

Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. 
Rev 1:13  And having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands. And in the midst of the seven lampstands I saw One like the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the feet, and tied around the breast with a golden band. 
Rev 1:14  His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow. And His eyes were like a flame of fire. 
Rev 1:15  And His feet were like burnished brass having been fired in a furnace. And His voice was like the sound of many waters. 
Rev 1:16  And He had seven stars in His right hand, and out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword. And His face was like the sun shining in its strength. 

@underline, burnished means polished

knock the wrong thinking etc. in the head right away

resist and the devil will flee from you < bible

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budaatum:
Here's a trick question for everyone. How much would be in a vault of a 40 year old who put in a pound every month they lived?

479 pounds

budaatum:
Here's a trick question for everyone. How much would be in a vault of a 40 year old who put in a pound every month they lived?

the day he/she was born there is nothing put in the vault
a pound is put in the vault at the end of the month - every month they lived
there would be 479 pounds in the vault the day he/she turned 40
plus 1 pound a month for every month he/she lived after turning 40

Jesus is the truth, false jw's god-the devil, is the father of lies
which of course makes you false jw's anti truth, anti christ
and oh doesn't it show, smile

Joh_14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Author of brainwashed, nondenominational poo. Jesus disciples usually congregated together,no segregation.
Your "crook's orginisation" is strictly for Pharisees like you.
"Christians don't need to repeat over and over again that we are God's people,"

How many persons make a people?

lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

of course it torments you that we christians have God given faith
while you false jw's have to keep lying to yourselves over and over again that you are god's people, funny

Eph 2:8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

not by works like you satans mob try to do,

Janosky: Lying Pharisee, you done tear Hebrew 10:23-25 comot from your copy of the Bible?

Since 19gbidigbidi when sense take flight from you medulla oblongata.
Johnw no go even fit do fellowship with rottennaija. lols

Heb 10:23  let us hold fast the confession of our hope that it waver not; for he is faithful that promised: 
Heb 10:24  and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and good works; 
Heb 10:25  not forsaking our own assembling together, as the custom of some is, but exhorting one another; and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh.

oh duh blinded mumu brain, christians do good works, but we are saved by grace through faith,
and of course God's churches assemble together, even like the churches in john's day, the philadelphia church etc.

if you read about some of the early churches in revelation, you will see that they are not all exactly the same,
just like the churches today

however your false jw churches are exactly the same, satan through your elders has brain washed you well


2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

false jw's are brain washed to believe that they are God's orginisation
and then they keep brain washing themselves, repeating it over and over and over again,
so as to keep on believing it

christians don't need to repeat over and over again that we are God's people,
for God has given us that faith where we know:

Eph 2:8  for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

rottennaija:
He is free to indulge in himself.

true, and he does plenty of that, laugh

Maximus69:

it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind

i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!



twelve Combatant mobile police officers are just like bloody civilians before one military intelligence officer!

does anyone seriously think that these sewer mouthed false jw braggarts are God's people
blinded false jw's themselves do, laugh

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maximus69:
Wow!

Bro, you made me laugh like Gaddafi!

Thank God the GB say "don't fight back" otherwise it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind, if it's just one combatant soldier i will make him regret the very day he joined the force but if he's not into martial arts of any kind then i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!

Please don't underestimate torture if it's to come from the military intelligence unit! When we smile,it's totally another thing we have in mind, but thanks to JWs like you who have softened the Tiger so that i now go about knocking the doors of those who will insult, abuse even try to beat me just because i wish to speak about my Faith!

Just last Saturday, a police officer threatened to beat me if i should knock on the gate of the house he lives again, he is not the landlord o just one of the tenants! I quietly walked away with that smile as usual because twelve Combatant mobile police officers are just like bloody civilians before one military intelligence officer!

lying pharisee false jw mad max ^^^
you are just a puffed up sewer mouth weakling, fact

Psa_59:12  For the sin of their mouth, and the words of their lips, Let them even be taken in their pride, And for cursing and lying which they speak.

Pro_16:18  Pride goeth before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall.

good OP

continued from there:

The filling of the Holy Spirit doesn't happen by magic, and it is never a one time experience but it continues. It is also important to recognize that there are several factors that can contribute in preparing your heart for the filling of the Spirit.

1. You must desire for the filling of the Holy Spirit: Psalm 42:1-2 As the deer pants for the water brooks, So my soul pants for You, O God. My soul yearning for God, for the living God; When shall I come and appear before God?

You have the promise of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, according to the book of Matthew 5:6 and it says, "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

2. You must confess and forsake any sin in you: 1 John 1:9 But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and wash us from all unrighteousness.

Jesus promised, "Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.

Proverbs 28:13 He who covers his transgressions will not prosper, But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion.

3. You must believe and have faith in the person of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 21:22 And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith. You receive Christ by faith, and equally, live by faith.

It is by grace you have been saved, through faith, it is also by faith that you will be filled with the Holy Spirit. And this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.

Everything you receive from God, from the moment you become born again until now, is by faith. Therefore, If you really want to be filled with the Holy Spirit? You can be filled right now, by faith.

There are two important words you must not forget while claiming the filling of God's spirit by faith. They are His command and promise, His command is that we are filled with the spirit.

Ephesians 5:18. Do not get drunk with wine, which will only ruin you; instead, be filled with the Spirit. His promise is that whenever we call on Him according to his will, He hears and answer us.

1 John 5:14-15 This is the confidence we have in God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that whatever we ask of him he hears, then why should we be in doubt of Him.

To be filled with the Holy Spirit is never a one time experience, we should be constantly filled with the holy spirit as a way of life. It is not simply by prayer only that we are filled but also by faith.

4. You must be willing and ready to surrender your entire life to Christ: Romans 12:1-2 says, Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God this is your true and fitting worship.

Don’t imitate the habits and attitudes of this world, but allow God to transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will be able to examine and appreciate what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Isaiah 40:31 But those who trust in the LORD will revive their strength. They will fly on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow tired, they will walk and not be weak.

what a Friend we have in Jesus,

all that false jw's have, is a false jehovah that has "a god" with him,
they have a almighty god the father and a mighty god jesus, two false gods



1Jn_4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

OLAADEGBU:
Thanks bro. for figuring them out for the liars they are. They are proving who their father really is, the devil, as you rightly implied.

yes, it should be obvious to everyone that lying is deeply embedded in false jw's,
and they glory in it

you have no doubt seen all the photos of false jw in their colorful clothes and smiling at the cameras
that they post in threads. they are interested in their outward appearance and think that it shows they are God's people

2Co 5:12  For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

these false apostles glory in an outward show, and not in the truth, which true apostles of Christ do

you might recall mad max often saying: "thank you jehovah's witnesses ooooooooo"
of course us Christians thank Christ

Janosky:
Junk post of johnw and Olaadegbu lying Pharisees.
Olaadegbu affirmed that Johnw is an idol worshipper Christmas/ birthday celebrant.
(Go & see Olaadegbu profile on NL).
Oturugbeke!!!!!!!

confused false accuser like your daddy the devil and lying pharisee Janosky/OneJ of no understanding

i looked at Olaadegbu profile and there is nothing there about him believing in
christmas and birthday celebant, but it does show that he doesn't replace Jesus with santa claus
as many do, and he doesn't put the created before the Creator

could it be that you are just continually confused, laugh
like you are continually falsely accusing and lying
but that's false jw's for you

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Crooked Pharisee,
" My Father is GREATER THAN ALL, says Jesus. John 10:29.

oh duh much confused lying pharisee, false accuser, deceiver, Janosky/OneJ
Father is greater than all, well who would have thought, laugh

Janosky: Jehovah (Yahweh) is one , himself ALONE.
Deut 6:4
Darby Bible Translation
Hear, Israel: Jehovah our God is one
Jehovah;

World English Bible
Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is
one:
Young's Literal Translation
Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one
Jehovah;

*** Gen1:26, that he spoke to other spirit beings NEVER changes anything.
Jehovah says he is one God, Himself ALONE Jehovah is the true God.
Jesus agreed. (John17:3).

oh duh duh duh, mumu brain Janosky/OneJ

God is one God, there is no other God with Him, again, well who would have thought

oh dum dum, you are posting scripture links supporting my position, oh confused one,
those scripture links don't support your position of your god being with "a god" oh polytheist Janosky/OneJ
those scripturers don't support your position of two gods, a almighty god and a mighty god, oh polytheist Janosky/OneJ

Janosky: You're just twisting John1:1
"In the beginning the Word was with "the" God(referring to Father), indeed He was
and the Word was God(not "the" Father) "

truly oh most duh one, (ho God) in greek means ("the" God) and is referring to the Father
and truly oh most confused know nothing, God the Word is not referred to as, ho God - which is referring to "the" Father because the word is not the Father. however like the Father He is God

Janosky: **$* Your "the Word God, not the Father, God"., that's two Gods your sawdust brain won't accept. You sabi dey lie too much.

oh so confused lying pharisee Janosky/OneJ

truly Father and the Word is two persons, one God, just like john said:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

it's of course your perverted bible that shows two gods:

nwt John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

your god is with a god

Janosky: $$ * You crooked Pharisees LIAR, deceive yourself thinking that big letter God and small letter god are different.
You dubiously say "not two gods as false JWs believe"


Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2316
◄ 2316. theos
►
Strong's Concordance
theos: God, a god
Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun,
Masculine
Transliteration: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Definition: God, a god"
Greek theos means "a god ,God, "
Crooked LIAR Johnw

laughing, such such babble

oh cannot understand anything, know nothing false jw deceiver, Janosky/OneJ

of course john 1:1 is not twisted like you lie and say
john 1:1 shows two persons to be the one God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

^^^ Father and the Word is God


your false jw version shows two gods:

NWT John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

your father and the word is two seperate gods, oh polytheist false jw Janosky/OneJ


Deu_32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.



Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of Confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

confusion with a capital C for oh so confused false jw Janosky/OneJ,

Janosky:
You are a colossal disgrace.


Deut32:39 Jehovah says "see now that even I" , is himself ALONE.

John1:1, "the Word was with "ho theos", (the God", your sawdust brain delusion dey manufacture "two persons in God there"

Your brain needs hypo....

oh fully confused know nothing lying pharisee™ deceiver Janosky/OneJ

truly you should believe God's word: there is no god with God,
you false jw's believe, "a god" is with God,
we christians know that Father and the Word is God
not two gods as you false jw's believe

in the beginning the Word was with "the" God(referring to Father), indeed He was
and the Word was God(not "the" Father) oh so duh one

you will never understand, God in us is needed for that, you false jw's have some impersonable power in you
although it does not show

Deu_32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

etc.etc.etc.etc. oh so completely duh one, laugh

Maximus69:
You sabi too much!

habitual lying™ false jw mad max
of course you hate the truth of my post and the scriptures that support it


*************

this person says watchtower is the god of the jw's,
but ultamitably it goes back to the devil

quote:
Unquestionably the WT is the god of the JWs. The WT is their final authority in all things. They don't believe what the Bible says, - they believe what the WT tells them the Bible says.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drsIzjT2Yvg

habitual lying pharisee™, false jw mad max

Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:

God has no God with Him, false jw's have "a god" with their false jehovah god


Christians know that Father and the Word is one God, and not two gods as you false jw's believe
a almighty god the father and a mighty god jesus

Christians also know that Almighty God and Mighty God are names - titles referring to the one God, ha ha you false jw's are so duh

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

two persons in God there, not two gods, smile

Maximus69:
Mr Hellfire!

false jw mad max, when confronted with the truth
you can only reply with your nonsense and lies

Maximus69:
Pastor johnw47

Maximus69:
Mr Focusless


Mr Focusless

habitual liar™ mad max
you of satan's lying mob, cannot reply to the false prophecies of false jw's that are posted
in this thread, and are what the thread is about, but instead you focus on anything else as a running away diversion from the truth

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

and all your laughs and winks in all your replies to the truth, also show your falseness

false jw
false jesus
false jehovah
false everything

Maximus69:
So Jesus prayed for all believers to become ONE BODY {John 17:23} but unfortunately this body doesn't recognize itself in the face of RACISM and POLITICS!

Pastor johnw47, please cover your face!

habitual lying™ false jw mad max

you are so confused, of course
truly all believers are the body of Christ

and of course false jw's are a sect of satan, who else lives on lies:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.