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Maximus69:
Jesus said "you're not to think too much about your own status, you're to humble yourself because these people DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DOING" Luke 23:34

Jesus was speaking of you false jw's mad™ max
you false jw's often accuse of what is in you
but then you are habitual liars like your daddy the devil

you are always thinking off your status, and telling how you are the one group of God over and over again, your opinion of course
and thinking of how nice you jw's look and posting many photos to show
you are often thinking about false jw's, thanking them instead of thanking God etc.etc.etc.

you are a pharisee hypercrite:

 
 
Mat 23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 
 
Mat 23:27  [color=#990000]Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 
Mat 23:28  Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Barristter07:
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you finally admit humans are called GOD by the Father too.

Did the original writers differentiate small g and capital G ?



I said show me where The Father called Jesus MY God ?

lie lie™ barrister

don't run away from things said, changing the subject

johnw47:
lie lie™ barrister

so you think Father said: "Thy throne, a god, is for ever and ever"

typical false jw mumu brain

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.




oh duh, Jesus called Father my God and Father called Jesus O God
and there are plenty of scriptures to show that Jesus is God, that Jesus is YHWH
will i post them yet again?

simpleton

and answer the questions from other posts as well, weakie

Barristter07:
Where is " one God " written at John 1:1 ?

lie lie™ barrister

fancy such a duh one as you going by the username barristter

Joh 1:1a  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

^^^ two persons there

john 1:1b and the Word was God.

^^^ one God there

Barristter07: One God, is spelled out as The Father - 1 Cor 8:6

oh duh duh duh, Father God is one God, and Father and the word is one God, john 1:1

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

christians can see even from that verse that Father and Jesus is one God - is one Lord
of course you couldn't:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Barristter07:
The Father also called humans GODS

lie lie™ barrister

so you think Father said: "Thy throne, a god, is for ever and ever"

typical false jw mumu brain

Heb_1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Barristter07: Jesus called his Father " My God ", can you show me where the Father called Jesus " My God " ?

oh duh, Jesus called Father my God and Father called Jesus O God
and there are plenty of scriptures to show that Jesus is God, that Jesus is YHWH
will i post them yet again?

simpleton

blueAgent:
You need to attend English classes.

what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence

blueAgent: Weather he was existing inside God or not the most important fact is that it was God that beget Jesus, it was God that fathered (mind my grammar)Jesus, it was God that gave Jesus life and his own existence.

confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Barristter07:
Go and read Revelation 1:4,5. I won't do your homework for you.

lie lie™ barrister

i of course did read them, and you cannot answer the question, oh weakie

johnw47: who did john see when he turned to the Alpha and Omega who was speaking, Jesus or the Father?

blueAgent:
Still not making any sense.

not making sense to you, a confused one

Janosky:
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw janosky/OneJ

you said: "verse 11, "Alpha and Omega" is a proven FRAUD."

i said: "interlinear of rev 1 verse 11, it shows Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the same as the kjv shows"

and now you say: "EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT"

laugh, see your extreme confusion yet
by the way i'm not talking to everyone, just to one duh one, you

Janosky: if you bake your bread or cake with broken or dented pan, you must see the dents or defects on your bread or cake.
The final results MUST show the defects..
That is the BEST WAY to explain the FRAUD in the KJV Textus Receptus (TR) manuscript that Johnw lying Pharisee is hiding from everyone reading this thread.

poor tormented false jw, truly i'm not hiding anything, in fact i'm the one posting scripture to show the truth of these verses, oh habitual lying false jw

Janosky: Pls, go ahead and check ALL the different bible translations of Revelation 1:11 on the link below:
SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/
revelation/1-11.htm


** You will discover that the KJV and some few Bibles have the same rendition. They are from the same 16th century TR manuscript.

**The authentic renditions of Revelation 1:11 is NOT from the TR manuscript.
Shalom.

i do, and i see the Truth, but you keep on searching and twisting for ways around it

Janosky:
You existed in your Father's loins before he brought you forth....
Your Father brought you out of himself (from his loins).
Likewise, Jesus Christ was "brought forth" (meaning =Created) .

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw janosky/OneJ

oh what great confusion you have oh most duh one, i didn't exist until i was born
God the word always existed in God, God's spirit didn't have a beginning, He always existed
the Eternal Word cannot be created when He always existed, God (Father) bought Him forth as a separate person to Himself
Father and the word, are two identical persons of the one Spirit that is God

Janosky: You need to enroll in an Adult Literacy Class to get better understanding of English, because (you're contradicting yourself , I'm not the first person to say that here ooo. Others have said so too) you just proved that your brain is sawdust.
Desperado defending a scam doctrine. . Lols

you have claimed contradictions, and i have shown you wrong
have others also been lying like you, well who woud have thought

laughing, you are talking about yourself again oh most confused know nothing
you and yours will never understand, your active force(satan) deceives you

Janosky:
** For your information, Johnw lying Pharisee is using a DUBIOUS addition into the KJV , (Revelation 1:11) to prove his FRAUD doctrine.

SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(11) I am Alpha and Omega.--In this verse
we pass from St. John to Him who was the
Word, of whom St. John gave testimony. He
who is the faithful witness now speaks.
"What thou seest, write," &c. The previous
words, "I am Alpha," &c., are not found in the
best MSS. The words "which are in Asia,"
are also omitted."

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

oh hater of God's word, twisting and changing it like your daddy does through his church the false jw org.
below is a interlinear of rev 1 verse 11, it shows Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the same as the kjv shows
but i give you this pharisee jw, you are just as scheming as your daddy the devil

Janosky: @2) In Rev1:8 "the beginning and the ending," were SPURIOUS addition into the Textus Receptus,16th century manuscript for the KJV.

again oh changer of God's word, making him a liar
rev 1:8 interlinear is also posted below, and the absence of "the beginning and the ending" even if it were true
would make no difference to Jesus being the Alpha and Omega, oh know nothing

Janosky: If Johnw had sense nobody needs to tell him that in Rev 1:5,6 Jesus in heaven choose men to serve God his Father., perfect proof Jesus is God's son in heaven. The son can not be "the Almighty" in verse 8 since he is the Son in heaven,.

ha ha ha, the Lord will always be the Lord, the Son will always be the Son, the word will always be the Word
the Lamb will always be the Lamd, whisper: He is not literally a Lamb jano, laugh

Janosky: Then,verse 11, "Alpha and Omega" is a proven FRAUD.

only to a Bible changing LIAR

Barristter07:
You are mistaken, I didn't think . verse 4 and 5 explains that already

lie lie™ barrister

you are right about, "i didn't think"

who did john see when he turned to the Alpha and Omega who was speaking, Jesus or the Father?

Maximus69:
The fact remains that God is directing just one and only religious group with his Spirit today, and this group is no other than "Jehovah's Witnesses"!

false jw mad™ max

the apostles preached Christ, you false jw mad max preach false jw's, non stop
but keep it up, you might convince yourself of it one day, smile

Christians praise Jesus, you praise false jw's, such a deluded one

Maximus69: When others see us go out to preach and teach our responsive neighbours, they're puzzled and the feel like proving they're also Christians too.

ha ha, what rot-lies you preach, you are forever trying to prove that you are God's people
Christians don't do that, like the apostles we know we are God's people, no need to keep affirming it to ourselves
or others



as you see i didn't waste time on most of your irrational rantings

as for the false jw pics
do you think the apostles would have lined up all over the country side
for people to see how pretty they are, ha ha, you are sure a queer lot

blueAgent:
You are confusing yourself, what is the difference from don't bring Jesus into existence and he beget Jesus?

laugh, oh mightily confused one, you say you are not a jw
i recommend you join them, putting the goats with the goats
they don't understand things of the Spirit either

once again:
God(Father) never bought the Word into existancw because the Word always existed in God

God(Father) begat the word, bought Him out of Himself

blueAgent:
You are the one confusing yourself you are trying hard to prove what you cannot.

no truly it's you that's confused, fess up, Father God is not "a god" as you said, but "the God"

duh one, i'm not trying hard to prove anything
people say foolish things and i sometimes reply to them
which is what i am doing now with you

i will leave the rest of your confusion for you to ponder[/quote]

Janosky:
@1-
Jesus and the Father same God,two persons.


@2)
"God is a spirit" (In simple English, a single spirit being). Johnw still claims that "Father and the Word", two spirits is a single spirit.


@3)
The Words of Johnw LIAR and confused Pharisees is there for everyone to see...


In a nutshell, Johnw reasoning faculty is neither normal nor sane...
Desperado defending a satanic scam.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

i of course don't think Father and the Word is two spirits in a single spirit.
i think Father and the word is two persons of the same Spirit which is God
but of course you satans mob cannot stop lying, just like your daddy

ha ha ha what confusion
truly oh great know nothing, God is one, God is a Spirit, God is one Spirit-one God
not two spirits-gods as you polytheist false jw's bvelieve, a almighty god the father and a mighty god jesus, laughing

the two persons, Father and the Word, have the same spirit, that One Spirit that is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

however you will never understand oh so confused false jw
your active force(satan) fools you  




1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Dull brain Johnw lying Pharisee.
Revelation 3:12 & John17:3 reset your mumu brainwashed lies.
Rev3:12 ,John17:3 Jesus the Son of his God and Father says your mumu is beyond redemption.
Go & cook up more lies to copy and paste.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

you keep bringing up rev 3:12 all over the place
i explained your confusion about that verse and i even gave you a link to it,
but you are avoiding it like the plague

you are one who rejects the truth and keeps on posting your lies
but then you are a false jw

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee and his falsehood are conjoined twins.
Him mumu tie wrapper.

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

like hedwiges you think because the Word always existed in God
then humans must also be as old as their fathers

ha ha such a mumu brain

HedwigesMaduro:
From this logic it means you are as old as your dad since you were in his "bowels" before you were born, so to say.

oh most duh one, my dad and i are human, not God
my age began when i took my first breath

the word is of God's Spirit which has always existed
the Word always existed in God, and became a seperate person when Father begat Him

HedwigesMaduro:
Please I will need the scriptures where Jesus was said to be YHWH.

YHWH is a name for God and Father and the Word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hence Father and Jesus is YHWH

Barristter07:

Emphasis on the highlighted, Now go back to Verse 4 and 5, That person is differentiated from Jesus the Faithful witness

you think: "which is and which was", is diffrent to:
Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.?

you think Jesus is not coming?

when john turned to see the Alpha and omega who was speaking, who did he see? Jesus or the Father



lie lie™ barrister, read it again:

the previous verses 5,6 and 7 john spoke about Jesus, and then in verse 8 Jesus says:

Rev_1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

^^^ john called the Alpha and Omega(Jesus), the almighty

in verse 11 the Alpha and Omega spoke again
John turned to see Him, he saw Jesus, the Almighty, as in verse 8:

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Janosky:
Una dey see as person wey think say he get sense dey reason?
You're already losing touch with reality.
Pls go ahead and consult a shrink before you reach 'next level'...

lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

of course you have nothing honest or worthwhile to say
just your continued false accusations, taking after your daddy;

oh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

God's word says
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

^^^ it's very clear, nothing was made that the Word-Jesus Christ didn't make 


God's word says
Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 

the perverted nwt says
16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things,+ and by means of him all other things were made to exist,

^^^ falsee jw's add "other" to that verse in their perverted nwt to support their satanic doctrine that the Word was created




Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

^^^ john tells that the word is God, john also tells that all things were made by the word
Genesis tells: God made the heaven and the earth, showing again that the Word is God:

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 



Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

false jw's

satan who is "a god"(the god of this world) and is "a angel"
really likes you false jw's calling the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ "a god" and "a angel" like he satan is

it must makes him(satan) feel equal to Christ, and it is the lie that he has put into your hearts

and into your perverted nwt, i must add

false jw's are false prophets, and not off YHVH


the false jw org. claims to be Jehovah's prophet, Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 and more

and false jw has made many false prophecies and then changed false prophecies, Watch Tower 1912 Dec 1 pp. 377-8 etc. etc. etc.
of which all failed of course

when a prophesy doesn't come to pass, it is not off YHWH, and those false prophets are not of YHWH, Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Janosky:
Demonic David J.Stewart and Gbagbo lying Pharisees.
Go and research history of bible translation, ONLY ENEMIES of YWHW (such as demonic Stewart and Gbagbo Pharisees) carry out the barbaric, evil practice of burning the holy Scriptures.

Even though at times I critic the KJV because of 1 John5:7 and other frauds in it, I WOULD NEVER burn the word of God.
Shame on you Pharisees

but there is nothing holy about the changed-perverted nwt scriptures, oh blinded know nothing
except for the holes after it is torn up, laugh

jano, you run away again

Janosky:
Confused Pharisee confusing others
John 1:1, the Word was face to face with "Ton theon (the God )",

oh so duh duh duh, know nothing janosky/OneJ

the word was with "the God", meaning "the Father"

Janosky: The Word and the God are two spirit beings facing each other.

the word and the Father are indeed two spirit persons
who are the one God

the Word was with God, two persons, and
the Word was God, one God

oh most duh one, laugh

Janosky: Confused Pharisee come and twist Rev 3:12

ha ha ha, once again, i showed you your confusion with rev 3:12 just yesterday
have you still not seen it oh blinded one, take a look at it: https://www.nairaland.com/5382917/trinity-doctrine-false-doctrine-it#81677521

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

lying pharisee™, deceiver, false jw Janosky/oneJ, such a mumu brain

Janosky:
@ Revelation 3:12,Jesus says it's a FRAUD.

blinded, lying pharisee™ false jw Janosky/OneJ 

i explained your confusion on rev 3:12 to you only yesterday, oh know nothing, blinded by your god the devil:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:
Brain scrubbed Pharisee,your father begat you therefore you and your father is one human being.

oooh know nothing and confused, false jw Janosky/OneJ

me and my father is of the human spirit, we are two persons, oooh so duh one

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee who says Jesus is not the same God the Father but him Pharisee brain shut down.

oh so confused babbler, and forever habitual liar

me did not say Jesus is not the same God as Father, me said Jesus is not the same person as Father, that is the Son is not the Father, oh cannot stop lying pharisee Janosky/OneJ

Janosky: "God is a Spirit" , is a single spiritual being.

yes indeed God is a Spirit, Father and the Word is that Spirit that is God, john 1:1 plus many other scriptures showing that Jesus is God
two persons, one God, not two gods as you polytheist false jw's believe

Janosky: Dubious Pharisee had to type "not two gods " whereas he can NEVER prove where JWs called YHWH "two gods"
Mumu Pharisee.

ha ha, oh liar just like your father and god, the devil

false jw's have said even at these forums that father is almighty God and jesus is mighty god
two god's there oh polytheist false jw

and you false jw's claim that john 1:1 says "and the word was a god"
which means Father God was with "a god", oh so duh polytheist Janosky/OneJ
etc.etc.etc. oh cannot stop lying son of your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

akeensbussy:
n the King James Version Bible, 1 John 5:7 reads: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

there is some argument whether that verse should be there
but it is true none the less

blueAgent:
True.
They are not two God's.
It is simply one God who has a Son called Jesus who by virtue of been the son of a God automatically is also a God but not in the same capacity and authority like his father.

Here is Jesus own words.

John 14:28
“Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come
again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I
said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. ”

Jesus is not the Son of "a god" as you say, but is the Son of "the God"

you said they are not two god's, and then you say, a god is the son of a god

you sure are confused

blueAgent:
True.
My take is that God is one, who exist eternally and at a certain time he brought forth his son Jesus into existence this was before the World and every other thing including the Angels and Satan were made .
proverbs 8:22

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and
that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones,
or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were
created by him, and for him:
Colossians 1:16
►

my belief is similar except God(Father) didn't bring Jesus into existance 
but bought Him out of Himself, begat Him
God is a Spirit, the word is of that same ever existing Spirit

wisdom the Word always existed in God