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continue There are at least two examples where they violated their own rule. Let us now consider these: 1. Philippians 2:10-11 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Phil. 2:10-11, KJV, emphasis mine) These verses are based on Isaiah 45:23 even though this Old Testament passage is not quoted word for word. There is no question that Paul had this passage in mind. In Isaiah 45:23 it is JEHOVAH GOD who is speaking (see the context in verses 21-22): "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" (Isa. 45:23 KJV). This verse teaches that "UNTO ME" (unto Jehovah, the one true God) every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Paul in Philippians 2:10-11 declares that it is at the name of Jesus that every knee should bow and every tongue should confess. Isaiah said that every knee would bow to Jehovah God. Paul, referring to this same passage in Isaiah, said that every knee would bow to Jesus Christ. Paul said in verse 11 that every tongue will someday confess that Jesus is Lord (kurios), that is, everyone will someday acknowledge that Jesus is Jehovah, the true and living and only God! But Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse to translate "Lord" as "Jehovah" even though it is obvious that Jehovah is the One referred to in the context of Isaiah 45:23. The New World Translation renders it this way: "and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." This Bible Translation is eager to translate "Lord" by the name "Jehovah" whenever possible (237 times in the N.T.), but in this case they cannot do it because it would force them to acknowledge that Jesus is Jehovah. There is another place in the New Testament where Paul quotes from Isaiah 45:23. It is found in Romans 14:11, "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God" (Rom. 14:11 KJV, emphasis mine). Notice how the Jehovah’s Witnesses translate this passage: "for it is written: ‘As I live,’ says Jehovah, ‘to me every knee will bend down, and every tongue will make open acknowledgment to God.’" (New World Translation of Rom. 14:11, emphasis mine). By using Jehovah in their translation of Rom. 14:11 the Jehovah’s Witnesses are acknowledging that the Isaiah 45:23 passage does indeed refer to Jehovah God. But when Paul in Philippians 2:11 refers Isaiah 45:23 to Christ, they refuse to translate "Lord" as "Jehovah." In this case following their own rule would result in a translation that would destroy the very foundation of their cult. Their faith is based on the faulty foundation of a defective and blasphemous view of Christ, that Christ is a mere creature (an exalted angel) and not the Creator-God. They deny the eternal deity and the eternal Sonship of our Lord and Saviour. They deny that the name "Jehovah" ever applies to Him. 2. 1 Peter 2:3 "If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious" (1 Peter 2:3). Bible scholars agree that Peter was borrowing from the language of Psalm 34:8 – "Oh taste and see that the LORD (Jehovah) is good" (KJV). Those familiar with Greek can compare the Septuagint translation of Psalm 34:8 with the Greek of 1 Peter 2:3 and they will find that the language used is nearly identical. For example, the word for "good" or "gracious" is the same Greek word: "chrēstos." The Psalmist gave the invitation: "Oh taste and see that the LORD is good (gracious)." Peter’s point was this (to paraphrase him): "If you have really tasted that the Lord is good (v.3) then you will desire His Word (v.2)." Remember the translation rule that the Jehovah’s Witnesses claim to follow: If the divine name appears in the Hebrew original (and it does appear in Psalm 34:8], then the translator has the right to render the word "kurios" as Jehovah. But in their translation of 1 Peter 2:3 they violate their own rule: "provided you have tasted that the Lord is kind" (1 Pet. 2:3 New World Translation). Why did they fail to translate "Lord" (kurios) as "Jehovah"? This is another case where they have chosen not to follow their own rule because the following verses (verses 4-6) make it clear that Peter was referring to the Lord Jesus Christ and the Jehovah’s Witnesses do not want anyone to think that Jesus is Jehovah. They must break their own rule or else they would be denying their own doctrine by calling Christ "Jehovah" and thus affirming His full deity. |
from a christian website THE DEITY OF CHRIST Jehovah’s Witnesses Violate their own Translation Rule. This study provides some help with respect to the erroneous teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that the Lord Jesus Christ is God and they deny that He is Jehovah. They teach instead that He is a mere creature, an exalted angel that God created. They wrongly teach that He was the first creature that God created, and then God, through Him, created everything else. The Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own translation of the Bible which is called New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. In this translation the New Testament word "Lord" (kurios) is translated "Jehovah" 237 times. One example would be Luke 2:22-24, "...they brought him up to Jerusalem to present him to Jehovah, just as it is written in Jehovah’s law, ‘Every male opening a womb must be called holy to Jehovah,’ and to offer sacrifice according to what is said in the law of Jehovah..." (New World Translation). On the other hand, when the word "Lord" refers to Jesus Christ they are very careful never to translate it by the name Jehovah because they deny that Jesus is Jehovah. They deny His full deity, and they rightly understand that the name "Jehovah" can refer to none but God alone. Here are two examples where they do not translate "Lord" as "Jehovah" for reasons that are obvious: "...nobody can say: ‘Jesus is Lord!’ except by holy spirit" (New World Translation of 1 Cor. 12:3). "For if you publicly declare...that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved" (New World Translation of Rom. 10:9). They refuse to acknowledge that Jesus is Jehovah! Such an admission would destroy their whole system of theology. One of their rules of translation involves places where the New Testament quotes from the Old Testament. Here is their rule: "In places where the Christian Greek Scripture writers quote the earlier Hebrew Scriptures, the translator has the right to render the word κυριος (kurios) as ‘Jehovah’ wherever the divine name appeared in the Hebrew original." [This rule is found in an official Watchtower publication entitled, The Divine Name That Will endure Forever (1984), pages 26-27]. In other words, if the New Testament is quoting from the Old Testament and if the Old Testament passage used the Hebrew name "Jehovah" then the New Testament quotation should also use the name "Jehovah." An example of this is found in Romans 10:13 which is a quotation of Joel 2:32 where the name "Jehovah" is found: "And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD (Jehovah) shall be delivered" (Joel 2:32,KJV). "And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe" (New World Translation of Joel 2:32). Since the Old Testament passage contained "Jehovah" so should the New Testament quote: "Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved" (New World Translation of Romans 10:13). In this case they faithfully followed their own rule. |
1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord,(kurios Jehovah) but by the Holy Ghost. ![]() |
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jesus Christ is the truth, false jw's are habitual liars false jw's are anti truth - antichrist |
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. of course Father doesn't send the Holy Ghost with the name Jesus Father sends the Holy Ghost in the character and authority of Jesus Christ like wise when the bible refers to "in the name of Jehovah" it can mean "in the character and authority of Jehovah" name greek ὄνομα onoma on'-om-ah a “name” (literally or figuratively), (authority, character) in the name hebrew שֵׁם shêm shame A primitive word, an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: he, the Spirit of truth/he will guide you, does that sound like an impersonal power to any? yes it does to false jw's, ha ha, pathetic 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
Maximus69:Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at, Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity. is a falsw jw a phony or is a false jw a phony ![]() |
Maximus69:mad™ max, of course you have no re course to the truth |
Maximus69:there is the real false jw's folks, they come to your door pretending to be lambs but inwardly they are wolves. mad™ max says false jw's are: "the blessed servants of the most high God" and that the christian he is speaking to is: "fellowshiping with the accursed ones" that's how evil false jw's truly think of christians the reason they speak to you at all is because they think they are being saved by their evil works and also they need to continually convince themselves and others that they are God's people, laugh they are a very unsure people, always puffing themselves up, having the wrong faith Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. false jw's - false prophets - wolves in sheeps clothing: https://www.nairaland.com/3793815/how-one-witness-jehovahs-witness/69#77522552 |
habitual lying™ max i was right from the beginning when i first called you "mad™ max" https://www.nairaland.com/3798197/jehovah-jehova-true-name-god/3#80151842 |
endogenous lying™ max it's become clear that someone here is indeed mental, a insane o Maximus69: At least all those following can notice your mental state now, so it's accomplished! John 19:30 Maximus69: Maximus69: I don't have time arguing with insanes o! Maximus69:^^^ yeah sure false jw max, i can see that just by your few posts here, laugh Maximus69: Just imagine that? Abel's name is written in the Bible!yeah lying max, there is definitely a insane o here ![]() |
Maximus69:endogenous lying™ max don't be concerned about others, just address your lies instead of camouflaging them with your false accusations |
Maximus69:tormented lying false jw max forever the lying sewer mouth, and all because you cannot admit your lies that i point out, pathetic ![]() |
Maximus69:endogenous lying™ max seeing as you say the same thing again, twisting the words around i will answer you again oh deceiver: i showed that your false claim made in this thread of you false jw's silenceing criticts with your higher intellect is false and is puffed up pride, just like much about you false jw's is false but of course as usual you run away from your exposed lies i know you don't like your lies being exposed, because you cannot speak any other way Jesus Christ is the truth, liars are anti truth, anti Christ: Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max forever the liar, of course, like your father the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ false jw max what part of my post makes me insane the exposing your lie that God allowed abel to be murdered so he wouldn't have to experience the evils of life or, exposing your lie that the bible is the book of life 1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, the bible talks a lot about you puffed up know nothings |
Maximus69:habitual lying max i showed that your false claim made in this thread of you false jw's silenceing criticts with your higher intellect is false and is puffed up pride, just like much about you false jw's is false but of course as usual you run away from your exposed lies i know you don't like your lies being exposed, because you cannot speak any other way Jesus Christ is the truth, liars are anti truth, anti Christ: Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Maximus69:know nothing™ max so your claim that the bible is the book of life, is higher intellect ha ha, it's a lie is what it is your claim that God allowed abel to be murdered so as he won't have to experience the evils of life, is higher intellect, laugh, no it's delusion etc. truly if i was to address half the lies you spew i would not have time for much else |
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. @bold, no that's not the bible ![]() |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max wonderful organization' ha ha many of it's followers including you often post with sarcasm, which along with lying, is a language of the devil some books on sarcasm: Sarcasm: the language of the Devil Sarcasm is the refuge of losers. Sarcasm: the last defense of the truly witless. Sarcasm is not the rapier of wit its wielders seem to believe it to be, but merely a club: it may, by dint of brute force, occasionally raise bruises, but it never cuts or pierces losers, the truly witless laugh, how true |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max so you know everything he has ever spoken, no, it's just you talking your natural talk,-lying your daddy does that too, that's where you got it from through your elders: Joh 8:44 Joh 8:44 You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father's desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies. |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max there is no magic in the name of the LORD(Jehovah) as you false jw's seem to think salvation is by grace through faith, Eph_2:8, calling upon the name of the LORD at that terrible time yet to come shows who their faith is in, that is why they will be saved, their faith Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max well i'm certainly not going to do anything your way, the way of lies and denial etc. it's amazing how you lie and lie and lie, and i ocassionally like to show them up all your lying is endogenous, passed on to you from your god and father the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. false jw max, re. your lie that the bible is the book of life: that would mean that satan the devil is saved, because his name is written there, oh duh know nothing false jw did God really allow abel to be murdered to protect him from the evils of life, ha ha |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max of course that has nothing to do with your lie that the book of life is the bible, oh twister-lying one Maximus69: God never wrote anybody's name before he created the world because that would have meant predestination and if so then all your effort is meaningless since the names of those that will be declared are already written!oh duh, whether God wrote names in the book of life before the foundation of the world or since is not the subject that you keep running away from your god the devil is the father of lies and you have learnt well from him through your false jw elders but our christian God knows all things even the end from the beginning, and God - Jesus can keep names in His book of life or blot them out: Rev_3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Maximus69: My guy, where you're having problems is what Jesus said regarding those whose favored from the founding of the world! Matthew 25:34 compared to Hebrews 9:26scardy cat max you continually run away from the issues, of course: Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. ^^^ it can be clearly seen how along with others, Jesus was talking about you there, max the christian God knows who will be saved from the foundation of the world just like He knew from the foundation of the world that the Lamb would be slain Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. the names of the unsaved were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world implying that the names of the saved were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. just as God knew the names of the unsaved and the saved from the foundation of the world the Lamb slain was also known from the foundation of the world the christian God knows everything, oh know nothing false jw max it's your god the devil who is not all knowing-omniscient Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max you are still running away from the issues i raised with you - your lies but i give you this, you are of your god, the father of lies |
Maximus69:lying pharisee™ false jw max all of your twisting and skirting around the issue, and just because you cannot admit the truth that you are wrong, the bible is not THE BOOK OF LIFE oh blinded phony jw2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. johnw47: |
onlyforchrist:not to me he isn't |
Maximus69:habitual lying™ max trailing you for vengance, laugh when was the last time i replied to a post of yours, a week ago or more which by the way is what is done at these forums and vengence? what nonsense is that, i replied to your post because it is lies and your running away from it attests to that, ha ha Maximus69: Well i know my presentations hurts a lot most especially when you're not on the side of the TRUTH, but take heart. Hebrews 4:12your typical false jw lies, you started out with sewer mouth, and then excuses, and now back to lies, laughing Maximus69: So can you now address the OP's question P L E A S E?oh duh, if i wanted to address the op i would, i addressed your lies, oh running away one Maximus69: Your response to my post has no substantial point to discuss. The only part you need to work on is about thelying max, of course those verses have nothing to do with the bible being THE BOOK OF LIFE: Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Maximus69: So the book of life simply connotes God's memory {Revelations 20:15 compared to Malachi 3:16} and the Bible is teaching us that he keeps in mind all righteous people beginning with Abel till today! Luke 20:37-38and once again oh confused max those verses have nothing to do with the bible being THE BOOK OF LIFE, like you lie and say it is, oh twister max: Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. Luk 20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Luk 20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him. false jw max, what a bad mouthed, lying, running away, full of excuses, twister you are THE BOOK OF LIFE whether figurative or literal, is where God has written the names of the saved since before the world, it is not the bible, oh duh duh duh, know nothing |
Maximus69:poor tormented, habitual lying™ max i addressed the lies in your post which you won't and cannot honestly address and when you are not running away from it, you come back with sewer mouth and-or excuses but that's what you lie lies do, isn't it ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/5289240/why-did-god-accepted-abel#80078789 |
![]() you have spewed your rot and run away from the truth you always do false jw max |
Maximus69:ha ha, false jw™ max, when you cannot reply to the truth you reply with sewer mouth, of course |
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