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paulGrundy:
“I didn’t see Jesus anywhere,” he told WGCL news after the ordeal. “There was someone named Allah. And someone named Mohammad. And there were 72 very beautiful women all around me.

Did he count them LOL

Take a look at some of the other ridiculous stories on that site:

Missouri Makes It Illegal for Men to (Mast ur bate) Without A Woman’s Permission

Republican Congress Passes Bill to Landmine Mexican Border

Amazon Building Pipelines to Deliver Packages Direct to Living Room
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RikoduoSennin:
I am sorry if I come across as someone who "likes to say things- express himself often" as it were.

Why I asked those questions, was to help you reason on a simple truth: Faith is stems from evidence, Unseen things can be proven. Plus I don't understand how a christian would say his/her faith is blind faith?

Faith is God given we can take no credit, it's all God's work in us, I posted the scripture but it is up to you to believe it or not.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.


Since I have never said that faith is blind, I don't know why you mention it to me.
I have said before that you should read posts until you understand them instead of telling people things they never said.
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I believe those who seriously seek God find Him, He promises that and for me and maybe millions of others it is true.
Faith is knowing God is real, he puts that belief in your heart just for seeking Him, it is all the proof you need.

Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

ph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

I can't prove it to you, but you can prove it to yourself.
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DieeDiee:
Thank you for your answer, sticking to the question and for being able to read and comprehend.

You were probably touched by 5 angels. They say when an angel visits you it will leave you feathers maybe that is why you saw wings and feathers... (But I don't know how true the feather thing is)

Bible scriptures are words by men that is why I asked not to be quoted scriptures. The bible/torah/quran or whatever did not fall from the sky, many men with selfish, self-serving purposes sat down and wrote the "holy word" with intentions to perpetrate hate against certain peoples and gain power and fame for themselves.

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

DieeDiee:
Also, are you suggesting UFOs exist? Or that God and UFOs are somehow connected?

No, I don't know if there is any meaning to it, that event happened soon after I became serious about my faith in Jesus.
I sometimes wonder about it, I guess there is much we don't know.
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DieeDiee:
...please do not quote me scriptures...
...not blind faith else we might as well as believe in aliens and mermaids.

Bible scriptures are true, without them you are just hearing men's words.

True Christian faith is not blind faith, it is God given. What I mean by true Christian faith, is faith that is given to those who seriously seek Jesus.
Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

DieeDiee:
...I'm interested in knowing if you have concrete proof e.g. you saw angel come down or something happened...

The following is not proof that God exists but are a few things that happened to me after becoming a serious Christian:

1. I was driving a tractor with a slasher on the back, and I was reversing while slashing long grass, not looking where I was going, when I heard a loud voice in my head call my name. I stopped and then turned around, I was about to reverse over a steep ledge into a dam, there were no people for miles around.

2. One night I was lying on the lounge watching TV when the paddock outside lit up very brightly, I should have got up to investigate, but the movie I was watching was very entertaining. The next morning I heard on the radio that a UFO was seen in the nearby village that night.

3. One day I looked up into the sky and there were clouds that looked like about five sets of eagles wings, the nearest set was like it had been painted by an artist with every detail, even the feathers at the tips of the wings. I,m not sure what it means.
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RikoduoSennin:
Do you have Faith in God?

Do you have Faith in Jesus?

Do you have Faith in Jesus' words?

Do you have Faith in God's word?

Do you believe we are in the last days?

Do you believe they are wicked spiritual forces in existence?

CAN'T YOU PROVE THEIR EXISTENCE?

IS THEIR ANY "REASONS" WHY YOU HAVE FAITH/ BELIEVE IN SOMETHING/ANYTHING?

Depending on what your "Reasons" is, it may be the evidence that builds/strengthens your faith.

Me think you just want to say things,
if you read and understood what I have said, you would not ask those questions which I have already made known.
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RikoduoSennin:
I quoted your comment, highlighted/bold a section of your previous post.

The section that said "When you cannot prove he exist" is wrong.

We can prove the existed of God that's why we have faith. Can you put you faith in a man whom you don't know if he exist?

RikoduoSennin,
I see now the part of my post that you bolded.

Having faith - believing in God without a doubt when you cannot prove He exists, is proof that faith is God given.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

That is not saying it cannot be proved that God exists, which is debateable.
It is saying exactly as quoted. That a person who cannot prove that God exists but believes anyway, is proof that his faith comes from God.

No I cannot put faith in a man whom I don't know if he exists, but I can have faith in a man who I cannot prove exists.



Many didn't see Jesus and His miracles etc as the disciples did, yet we believe through faith, God given faith.

Faith is knowing even without being able to prove it.

Hebrews 11:1 Faith is the reality of what we hope for, the proof of what we don't see.


We have to believe but we don't have to prove, you could never prove it to some, and to those with faith you don't have to prove it.

The bible and Creation is proof that God exist, only ignorant once do not see the proof. But they have no excuse.

Am I ignorant? I believe the bible and in the creation, I know that God exists, my faith is the proof.

Perhaps you should read posts through two or three times until you understand what is said.
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mmsen:
Whatever the bible says the facts are that analytical data supports the stance of the Seventh Day Adventists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventist_Health_Studies

Which would suggest that bible is wrong (not for the first time).

Christians of faith have no problem with the Bible, and grow even more in faith from what is written there.

The seventh day adventists, teach against drinking alochol and eating meat.

The Bible teaches that a little wine is good for health, and is tells of meats that are good to eat.

In the new Testament an Apostle said he had faith to eat anything.
Another Disciple said to just refrain from eating blood and strangled meat.

1Ti_5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

And God told Israel that they could eat meat from animals that chew the cud and have divided hoofs such as cattle and sheep etc.

Lev 11:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
Lev 11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
Lev 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
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RikoduoSennin:
The bolded section is wrong, You can't have Biblical faith without believing that he exist WITH EVIDENCE TO BACK YOUR BELIEVE. (Hebrew 11:6; Romans 1:20)

The bible and Creation is proof that God exist, only ignorant once do not see the proof. But they have no excuse.

RikoduoSennin, the bolded part is not wrong, it is part of the verse. I bolded it to show that the gift of faith comes from God.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
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Having faith - believing in God without a doubt when you cannot prove He exists, is proof that faith is God given.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

If you don't believe without doubt, then get serious.
Seek (Truth - Jesus) and you will find.

Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Mat 7:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Good OP

malvisguy212:
you that understand the op, teach us.

Jesus and lucifer are called similar names in those verses.
But we know Jesus is not the fallen lucifer, because we know that Jesus is God in the flesh.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

kendrick9:
nonsense

Which means you don't understand.
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Joh_13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him.

I used to like thinking that John called satan, the sop.
But the verse is better understood if a commer is inserted.

And after the sop, Satan entered into him.

Sop, being a peice of bread.



Joh 13:21 When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
Joh 13:22 Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.
Joh 13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
Joh 13:24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
Joh 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
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Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Isa 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!



Jesus is the bright and morning star, He is also the day dawn, and the day star.
lucifer is the son of the morning - dawn.

Jesus - the word, created all things including lucifer, the most brilliant of all the angels, that is why lucifer is the son of the dawn - Jesus.
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They can all be answered, but I will answer just the ones that Jesus said.
Someone else may have already answered, I have only read page 1 so far.

The messages in these verses are:


(4) (Jesus speaking)
Matthew 5:16 Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven.
Matthew 6:1 Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them.

The first one is about letting your good works be seen by men so that they will glorify God.
The second one means, do not do good works just to please man, or you have no reward from God.

(5) (Jesus speaking)
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.
Matthew 10:34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

The first one, Jesus is telling His disciples that He will leave them His peace.
The second one is about not peace, but a sword to the earth.

(7) (Jesus speaking)
John 5:31 If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.
John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.

The first one, if you read the other verses before and after this one, you will see that Jesus is saying, that if he spoke of himself it would not be true, because He is speaking of his Father whose will He came to do.
The second one. again if you had of kept reading you would see that Jesus testimony is valid concerning the Father because His Father is with Him.

There are no contradictions there.

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Don't reject God's people, putting yourself against God.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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If you do right you are born of God, by their fruits you will know them.

1Jn 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

But I believe being born again, spoken off by Jesus and Peter in the following verses means being born immortal which happens in the twinkling of an eye at the catching up to the Lord in the clouds in the air for Christians of faith and those who have died in Christ.

1Pe_1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Joh 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
Joh 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

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Seek and you will find, you are seeking the lord, you want to be born again. He will give you faith to be saved, it is a gift from God just for seeking Him.

Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Once God has given you faith in Jesus Christ, you follow the leadings of the Holy spirit who does good works in you. You don't have to do anything to be saved, you are saved by God through your faith which also God gave to you, so you cannot take any credit for being saved, if you have the thought to help someone, that is the Holy Spirit working in you, be lead by the Spirit.

We are not saved by works, but we are lead by God to do good works once we are saved.
Do God's works, it's simple, He want's all to be saved.

Some say because they are saved they can do anything even live a sinful lifestyle.
The Holy Spirit would not lead a saved person to live a sinful lifestyle, so I believe all those "once saved always saved preachers" who say, once saved you can do anything, are wrong.

I believe once saved we do follow the Spirit's leadings.

Jesus Christ was not invented, all the Old Testament Prophecies about Him were fulfilled.


44 Prophecies Jesus Christ Fulfilled:

http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefactsandlists/a/Prophecies-Jesus.htm


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Yeahme06:
who was the owner of the crow that crowed when judas denied Jesus 3times?

Yeahme, what is the answer to your quiz?

The owner was probably the woman down the track that sold chickens.

It wasn't a crow that crowed, it was a rooster that crowed.
And it wasn't judas that denied Jesus on this ocassion, it was Peter.

Mat 26:33 Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.
Mat 26:34 Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

Weah96:
Rubbish. Here's another piece of obvious rubbish.


Matthew 16:28

I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.

Quote the lies as well as the fortune cookie ones. Don't pick and choose.

And the next three verses:
Mat 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Here is the title of another story from that site:


Russia Shoots Down Santa's Sleigh Near North Pole

1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

dolphinheart:
You see now, if I did not ask the questions, we might have been arguing on points that we might have the same beliefs on.

Now I thing that this is ur oppinion
1. Jesus is God , but not almighty God and he is not the same as the rather and not equal to the father.
2. Father is God and almighty God
3. Holy spirit is God but not almighty God.
4. That the true God mentioned in the bible is just one singular person , but a collection of three different persons with different authorities which make up one God.

If my assumptions of ur view are true, let me know so that I can then reply on the scriptures u quoted

dolphinheart, you go around and around in circles, you keep listing questions for me to answer while not answering even one of my questions.
You must think you are the teacher and others are your students.
Goodbye teacher.

dolphinheart:
Sir, wunt mind to answer the questions you asked. But pls I would love you to answer question 2 and 4 in the right format.

2. Rephrased: jesus was equal to God when he was in heaven . He was not equal to God when he was on earth. Did he regain that equality with God when he went back to heaven? , simple yes or no

The issue I am talking about is whether God and the Word - Jesus are God, and I and others have posted many verses showing that they are. The issue for me is not and has not been whether the father is superior to the Son, Fathers usually are.

4. Rephrased : Jesus said we should baptize in their name, what is the name we should baptise in . Why should we baptise in such name.

I posted that verse along with others showing that the father the Son and the Holy Ghost are God.
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
For the third time you tell me the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.


I'm sorry I'm asking you these questions before answering urs. But when you give me straight answers on the question I asked, ill have a better understanding of ur view and know how to reply .

dolphinheart:
Quote heb 1:4 again and then use it to explain to us that jesus is God, equal to the father, uncreated

Who is made?
Who made him?
Remember , made = produced or manufactured by something.

You are quick to point to the fact that he was made better than the angels , making u forget the fact that he was made.

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So many verses in the Bible say the Word - Jesus is God, of which I have posted many.
You should believe the scriptures and try to understand them.

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Do JW's still teach that Jesus is an angel?


Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

God called the Son, "God".

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dolphinheart:
Would love to discuss all the scriptures u posted , only if you can tell us ur answer to question 2 and 4.

2. Is jesus of equal authority to the father when he went back to heaven after leaving earth ?

I believe the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are equal, I know they are God, just look at all those verses I posted.

4. Jesus, father, holy spirit has same name, pls what is that name.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This is saying that the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost are God.
Baptizing in the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost is Baptizing in God.

dolphinheart, do you think God and the Word are equal?
what do you think is the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost?