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There will be a total eclipse of the sun in late March,
and there will be a blood red moon in early April.
I don't know if anything will happen shortly after that,
but I know from scripture that Jesus will return during a time when there will be much lawlessness.
He could come soon, months or years from now.

I thought Elijah and another Prophet were to preach in Israel, on the streets of Jerusalem,
before or around that time to bring Jews to Jesus.

LORD God, you are AWESOME

bingbagbo:
what are u trying to say

Isaiah 48:12,13 " I am the same One. I am the first. Moreover, I am the last. Moreover, my own hand laid the foundation of the earth and my own right hand extended out the heavens"

Hebrews 1:5 shows that Jesus is not an Angel,
verse 8 tells that He is God.

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?


Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

john doe was a good man he preached Jesus and fed the poor, he changed not,
but he didn't wear the same clothes all the time.

bingbagbo:
Malachi 3:6King James Version (KJV)

For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed (YHWH).

Hebrews 13:8

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. .... Analyze these with the help of the Holy Spirit bro......

I agree with you and the bible.

Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD (YHWH), he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD (YHWH); and beside me there is no saviour.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord (Jesus), which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Mine added in brackets ()

deenAyetu:
sso i should go by the first

You should know yourself what to give.

I would give what I think is a fair amount,
whatever you give, give gladly.

bsjay:
"If I have told you of earthly things and ye believe me not, how will you believe me if I tell you of heavenly things?" John16:12-15"I have yet other things to say to you but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit, when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide you into all truth and show you more things to come..." "For we know in parts but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away with!"
Quoting the scriptures in an earthly sense has made us to be blind to the Truth. The right understanding of the scriptures is completely lacking coupled with the fact that the Bible doesn't contain all that man needs to know as confirmed by Jesus Himself in John16:12-15 and Paul.
By the time we will start reading the bible in a spiritual sense as it should be, we will start asking many questions that will lead us to the Truth.

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Don't leave your family and yourself short,
a pastor of God is deserving of his pay, and so are you.
Give some now and then.

The way I tithe is by giving a Bible society some money once or twice a year,
for bibles and Christian literatures to be given to the poor.

Genesis 2:10-14
A river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and there it divided and became four rivers. The name of the first is the Pishon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. And the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. The name of the second river is the Gihon. It is the one that flowed around the whole land of Cush. And the name of the third river is the Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

Gen_3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

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The Word did not cease being God when he was born man.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

He is God in the Spirit and the Son of God in the flesh.
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johnw74:
Joh_10:30 I and my Father are one.
Which means I and my Father are God,
John affirms that: "and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
The Father and the Word are God.

RikoduoSennin:

Hahahaha, what you wrote above is your thought not what Jesus meant

These scriptures say the father and the Son are one, God and the Word are God.
You say no they mean something else.
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Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Joh 12:45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
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Joh 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Joh 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

The Apostles and all the saved are seen now by God as being one with Him,
the fullness of this happens in the twinkling of an eye when the saved are caught up to Him,
they will see Him as He is, because they will be just like Him - one with Him.

1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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RikoduoSennin:
Hahahaha, what you wrote above is your thought not what Jesus meant

As I have said, you don't believe scripture and you change what it says.

johnw74:
Joh_10:30 I and my Father are one.
Which means I and my Father are God,
John affirms that: "and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
The Father and the Word are God.

These scriptures say the father and the Son are one, God and the Word are God.
You say no they mean something else.

I'm not going over this again and again with you,
most of what you say is based on what you think scripture means,
most scripture is plain and needs no explanation,
some say scripture means other than what it says to support a doctrine - belief of theirs.

TheIkoro:
"And The LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words...."

- The Bible.

And The LORD said also unto Jeremiah,

"Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book."

And The LORD has said it, again and again; that His words "shall be written for
generations to come."

Thus the depth of the evil that would the wicked destroy words even greater than all that
was ever written by William Shakespeare, can be forgiven if only Shakespeare could forgive
any that destroyed of his work. And therefore, unto The LORD I cry....

Add to any but I, O LORD, that adds or removes any dot, or letter, or word from absolutely anything
that I put down as word; add to any, O LORD, that pilfers of absolutely anything that I put down as word:
add to him (or her) punishment upon punishment - may he (or her) have absolutely no acquittal before
Thee.

Let him (or her) be blotted out of the book of the living,

let him (or her) not be enrolled amongst the righteous;

let him (or her) be turned to nought and nullified altogether, all throughout eternity;

let him (or her) be cloaked a trillion times over with the heat of a furnace, even as that same nullified nought
in all eternity.

Did you not say, Jesus and satan are the same person?
and didn't you quote Bible scripture to try and make your point?


Is there a need to further curse yourself?
Is your fate not sealed?

TheIkoro:
"As it is written, and of Jesus,

" ''who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.'

"As it is written, and of Lucifer,

" 'For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

" 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.'

"Therefore who then can Lucifer be, if not he 'who, being in the image of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God?'

"HE THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH."

And the OP's point is proven.

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If we believe EVERYTHING Jesus said, we won't have an issue with this.

You say you believe everything Jesus said,
but you don't,
you change what He said to something else.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Joh_10:30 I and my Father are one.
Which means I and my Father are God,
John affirms that: "and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
The Father and the Word are God.

You don't believe Jesus and you change what He plainly said.
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You don't believe the scriptures posted,
and you try to explain why they are not true.

Through Faith, we Christians believe those verses.

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Is the Trinity pagan? The pagan religions had what we call trinities however on closer examination they are not the same in concept or substance. In the same way we would not agree with all the other religions that have a strict monotheistic view of God to be embraced as the same God of the Bible. (Islam, Bahai) The pagan concept was encapsulated with a Father, Mother, giving birth to a Son. They were three major Gods with many minor god's as well. Their trinity was comprised of three Gods not one. The Greek triad of Zeus, Athena, and Apollo, the Hindu triad of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva the Egyptian triad of Isis, Horus, and Sub bear no resemblance to the Biblical Trinity. They were all separate not united as the one God and almost unanimously had a mother involved as in a heavenly family. This was really tritheism, which has more in common with Mormonism than a triune God. Anti Trinitarians make usage of the statues with three heads and saying that is our pagan God. If one is going to discount the Trinity because of some similarities in name only and not in substance. Then maybe they should be looking at their own pagan similarities. One can still be in idolatry, if their one God is not the God of the Bible.

http://www.letusreason.org/Trin8.htm
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Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Because you do not understand that Heavenly things are diffrent to things on earth,
you deny the bible scriptures.
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CANTICLES:
relax, its not one its THREE GODS

That's your belief.

CANTICLES:
U said Jesus is God, so why deny Mary as the mother of God ?? Ar u confused ?

You sure are.

CANTICLES:
OK... 1st person and God



2nd person and God




3rd Person And God

CONGRAT ! YOU HAVE JUST PROVED IT THAT YOUR CHRISTIANITY WORSHIP 3 GODS !

No, one God, three persons, even as you said just there.
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Only God's sacrifice could pay the penalty for the sins of the world,
just a man could not pay the penalty for the sins of the world.
some teach that Jesus is just a man, they don't know the real Jesus.

Joh_14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Some say that the plain sense of the Bible is wrong,
they say look, that verse means something other than what is says.
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I believe Jesus is Mighty God but he is not Almighty God.

There are not two true Gods, either God is mighty or God is Almighty.
I say He is Almighty.

Mar_12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
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As far as I know the Christian trinity doctrine is the only one which believes in God being one God,
and that God is three persons in one God, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Other than Christian trinity believers, believe that God is a combination of three gods,
or that God has three heads, or that god has a human father and mother.
No trinity doctrine is the same as the Christian trinity doctrine.

There is no problem for most with the Father being God.
and as the Son was the Word who also is God, so Jesus is God manifested in the flesh,
and their should not be a problem in believing the Holy Spirit is God,
God is Spirit and the Holy Spirit can be no other than God.
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RikoduoSennin:
Hosea 12:3,4 " In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he wrestle/strove with God, He wrestle/ strove with the Angel and prevailed......"

Angel is God too.

Explain Revelation 1:1

The Angel of the Lord is just that, "the Angel of the Lord"

the Angel of the Lord, not the Angel is the Lord.

He is the Lords representive with the Lords authority.

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Would the Father have made the Son be so much better than the Angels, if the Father was an Angel.

You don't believe Jesus is God, and you believe God is an Angel??



Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The verse needs no explanation,
God gave Jesus Christ a revelation to show unto His servants,
and Jesus sent the revelation with His Angel to John.
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EvilBrain1:
Second sentence in my last post. You even quoted it: "You christians are always more than happy to tell
everyone else that their beliefs are nonsense, but you want to deny others the right to do the same to you."

Somebody makes a factual statement about the bible being old, barbaric and fictitious and you stsrt whining about "bad language" despite there being nothing of the sort. You want your unfounded beliefs to protected from skeptical enquiry while you go around criticizing other's (Ive seen your posting history, so dont bother denying it).

The second sentence you mentioned:

You christians are always more than happy to tell everyone else that their beliefs are nonsense,

I haven't said to you or to anyone in this thread that your beliefs are nonsense,
I may have said to someone somewhere else that something they said was nonsense??

Well anyway I'm glad you know that Christians are not evil brains.

Also I'm not a christian. Look at my sig.

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TheIkoro:
Neither is there salvation in any other name given among men, whereby one can
be saved: but in that Name, which was GIVEN unto Jesus; AND, BY GOD.

And for the Christianity that continues striving to dribble from all such excuses as
that of "Behold, we know it not;" to that which has thee say, "Go in peace, be warmed and
filled;" to that which has thee preparing to offer the sacrifice with which thou
would be pacification (are you even yet bent on having it offered for but a decade; or have
you decided, even, that you're ready to have it offered for another two thousand years?) rather
than to do judgment and justice, I would like to remind thee: Be it in the secular, or
in the spiritual; the high official is watched by a higher, and there are yet higher ones over them.
And the most oppressed in the land (regardless of the extent to which his right has been
violently taken away) can always reach out to "The High Court," appeal to "The Appeal
Court," AND - in that case where neither the one nor the other was righteous enough
to vindicate him - cry out unto "The Supreme Court": Avenge me of mine adversary.

Therefore, O Christian: You may continue striving to hide under the high official that is Jesus. It is that
same Jesus who accuses you, on whom you set your hope.

To all mine, which is The Pride of Machismo Renaissance (wherein is the faith of
Masculinism) I repeat those words which are to be that of they that hold the testimony of Jesus - if
they do truly and indeed hold it:

Worship GOD.

- Ikoro Iyineleda.

Talk about dribble!
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johnydon22:
Yeah all of them are inspired including the quran too... Dont forget that...Religion abeg what is new?

I think it was Paul who wrote this letter to Timothy,
he was of course talking about Christian and Jewish scripture.

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

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EvilBrain1:
Im calling you a hypocrite because the double standard you are knowingly or unknowingly espousing. You christians are always more than happy to tell everyone else that their beliefs are nonsense, but you want to deny others the right to do the same to you.

And who are you to decide what language is "bad"? I see nothing wrong with what johnnydon22 posted which is simply a statement of fact. That those facts are inconveneint to you is nobodys problem but yours. You will not be allowed to use the exuse of "I'm offended" to limit another person's right to express his views. Je suis Charlie.

Also I'm not a christian. Look at my sig.

Then you will be able to quote these double standards I have been using in this thread,
wont you
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dolphinheart:
I gave u explanations...
you refuse to answer questions...
you refuse to explain...
You refuse to look at other...
I used all the scriptures...
you refuse to do that...
I went into issues concerning...
you refuse to do that...
I showed you examples on...
you refuse to do that...
I showed you other statements...
You refuse to do that...
I showed you what other writers think...
you refuse to do that...
I showed you what scholars think...
you refuse to do that...
All you have done is to show "agidi"...
I then went on to direct(show) you...
Still you no wan belief...

Yes, you are very good dolphinheart,
in your own eyes.



I'm not interisted in what you teach, when this is the sort of thing that you teach:

According to these translations, the Word is not God himself. * Instead, because of his high position among Jehovah’s creatures, the Word is referred to as “a god.” Here the term “god” means “mighty one.”

I have told you before that you are not my teacher, but you think you are the teacher and that others are your pupils.
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