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Who is the Holy Spirit?



Question: "Who is the Holy Spirit?"

Answer: There are many misconceptions about the identity of the Holy Spirit. Some view the Holy Spirit as a mystical force. Others understand the Holy Spirit as the impersonal power that God makes available to followers of Christ. What does the Bible say about the identity of the Holy Spirit? Simply put, the Bible declares that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also tells us that the Holy Spirit is a divine person, a being with a mind, emotions, and a will.

The fact that the Holy Spirit is God is clearly seen in many Scriptures, including Acts 5:3-4. In this verse Peter confronts Ananias as to why he lied to the Holy Spirit and tells him that he had “not lied to men but to God.” It is a clear declaration that lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God. We can also know that the Holy Spirit is God because He possesses the characteristics of God. For example, His omnipresence is seen in Psalm 139:7-8, “Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.” Then in 1 Corinthians 2:10-11, we see the characteristic of omniscience in the Holy Spirit. “But God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.”

We can know that the Holy Spirit is indeed a divine person because He possesses a mind, emotions, and a will. The Holy Spirit thinks and knows (1 Corinthians 2:10). The Holy Spirit can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit intercedes for us (Romans 8:26-27). He makes decisions according to His will (1 Corinthians 12:7-11). The Holy Spirit is God, the third Person of the Trinity. As God, the Holy Spirit can truly function as the Comforter and Counselor that Jesus promised He would be (John 14:16, 26, 15:26).

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Peacefullove:
What is this one saying ?




From the above Spirit of the world is FROM satan. but Check the next post




its now Satan , no more from Satan .

Can you now see you are the Confused one ? If you are not biased , with this evidence you would see the blue applies to you.

ha ha, yes the spirit of the world is from satan,
and yes the spirit of the world is satan.

Do you know satan is also a spirit,
oops, no you don't know.
satan is the god of this world, satan is the spirit of this world,
his spirit is in many children of disobedience, isn't it?
his spirit is in the world, the spirit of this world is satan, he is a spirit.

And you keep telling others they are confused and lying,
you are talking about yourself.

Peacefullove:
Stop lying . You want to tell me what was shared between moses and the 70 men was Knowledge ? You too dey fall my hand with your stupid assertions , bits of the spirit NOT knowledge was taken from moses . Some of it. a person indeed!!


Can you Took some of johnw74 ? Or took some of Jesus Christ ?


I know you won't get it , After all u have said Holy spirit is the Father . Holy spirit is also the Word. What sensible thing should be expected from a directionless Person like you .

Ha ha, yes like I said, the Father is the Holy Spirit:
Mat 10:20  For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 

And the Word is the Holy spirit:
Joh 14:16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 
Joh 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 

Father and the Word is the Holy Spirit:
Joh 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Father and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God(Father and Son) is the Holy spirit, but you pl have been blinded.

Are you among the biggest duh's here pl?

Like I said, you have no idea of things of the spirit, no knowledge and no understanding,
and of course your absence of knowledge and understanding equals your absence of the Holy Spirit.



More confusion from pl, just a couple:

Peacefullove:
Open your eyes to the Bolded brown, If the spirit of God is a person, then it means the spirit of the world too is a person since both are directly contrasted ?


I cant stop laughing at ypur 1 john 5 vs 7 already flogged as one of the manipulations that exist in your bible smh , But see verse 8, Imagine a person, So called God the holy spirit been categorized with blood and water as witnesses, How does it sound to you , am sure blood and water are PERSONs TOo ?

Peacefullove:
If you dont understand something ask; That those figures I mentioned are given personality traits despite been an IT doesn't mean they are persons, They were personified . sea, Love , Earth etc .

Even the same bible categorize this holy spirit with knowledge, purity , Love , kindness. ( 2 Cor 6 vs 6 ) smh a person indeed, am sure knowledge, purity and Kindness are persons too ?






Really ? MUST YOU LIE


"The angel of the LORD appeared to him in a
flame of fire from within a bush . He looked--
and the bush was ablaze with fire, but it was
not being consumed!" Exodus 3 vs 2

From WITHIN a bush is NOT different from Form of bush ?


who now lack understanding

and even if am to play along with your beautiful lie, We have cases of angels as specified above appearing in human form to futher prove their personalty not once not twice , SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE OF HOLY SPIRIT appearing in Human Body form since it could appear in the Body Form of a dove ?




what a lame excuse.

Hahhahahahahha You mean Satan turned into the body form of a snake ? Wow, he must be moving with his belly right now since he was cursed ? tell me more

Moreover, If Satan is an angel as preached in Christianity .. then, There are various instances of angels appearing in the body form of Humans proving their personalty, Show me one single instance of holy spirit appearing in the body form of human since it could appear in that of a bird, dove ?



DOVE indeed.

But never in human form shey ?



Stop lying , It was an angel NOT God

secondly, The angel appeared in the midst of BUSH NOT form of Bush ... more plausible, Angels according to bible appeared in Human body form, no single instance of holyspirit.

Until you tell me if Devil actually turned into a snake body form . So we can know if The Christian Satan still moves with his belly.




Liar, God did not appear in form of a bush , who is gonna take you serious with all this lies ?



Lol, A person so insignificant that when Yeshua was asked if he knows when the end would come, So insignificant that Yeshua forgot to mention this person alongside Father, Son and the angels . person indeed!!!



wait , In Christianity there is one Lord Jesus , do you mean Jesus is. holy spirit ?

Peacefullove:
How did God gave his spirit ? HE TOOK OF/SOME OF the spirit that was upon Moses . SOME OF a person ?

Open your eyes

Duh oh blinded one,
for instance God's spirit is in every faith given Christian, not just bits of His spirit in every christian:
Joh 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Father and the Word - the Holy spirit, come and live in the saved, not just bits of them come.

You pl, not being spiritually discerned don't understand things of the spirit,
for instance you don't know the difference between having God's Holy spirit
and having diffrent amounts of God's spirit when referring to knowledge,
the latter is given in diffrent measures, of course Jesus Christ was filled with the Spirit,
meaning filled with the knowledge of God.
It doesn't mean those having only a measure of God's spirit - knowledge, only have a peice of God's spirit in them,


God's Spirit is not in a lot of diffrent pieces and sizes

Peacefullove:
Numbers 11 vs 25 .

" Then the Lord came down in the cloud and
spoke to him, and took some of the spirit
that was on him and put it on the seventy elders; and when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied. But they did not do so again."

Took some of a person ? Use your brain, some of . and share among 70 men . well I dont expect someone like you to grab that.

Num 11:25  And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.

God gave His Spirit to the seventy elders and they prophesied

you still confused

see there how God's spirit is the Holy spirit,
God is spirit, a person, and not a "it", oh blinded one.

Peacefullove:
analogy gone bad!

What else could you say after rejecting so much of the Bible

Confused peacefullove, you have been blinded and disbelieve the scriptures posted showing that the Holy Spirit is a person and is God.
Here are a few more scriptures for you to disbelieve, to your own peril:


THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD

The Holy Spirit is Father God:

Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
^^^
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Father God, Father God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.


And Father God gives believers another comforter (the Word):


The Holy Spirit is the Word:


Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide
with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it
seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in
you.


@bold, Jesus is letting the Apostles know that He is the Holy Spirit-the word, in flesh: "he dwelleth with you", Jesus
dwelled with the Apostles, "and shall be in you"


Jesus said:
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


The Holy Spirit is God the Father and the Word, in other words the Holy Spirit is God - God and the
Word is God(John 1:1]:


Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my
Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Because God and the word is God, and God is the Holy Spirit, is why Jesus can be called:


Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father


Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his
shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.

Peacefullove:
One of those Prophets is Moses, Yet that Spirit of Christ in him was Shared between him and some 70 men. imagine a person been shared . Use your brain

You were blinded to the main point, the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Christ.
and yes we all, who have Him living in us, share in God,
you know nothing of that.

Peacefullove:
Brainless analogy, You can as well conclude holy spirit is an Angel too

Angels are Holy according to Bible

Angels are spirit according to Bible.

so using your derived analogy, Holyspirit must be an. angel . You agree ?

The diffrence is, those who have God's Spirit know He is not an angel.
you of course obviously cannot know.

God is Holy:
Psa_99:9 Exalt the LORD our God, and worship at his holy hill; for the LORD our God is holy.

God is a Spirit:
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

duh, God is the Holy Spirit




God, is God and the Word:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God and the Word dwell in believers:
Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

double duh, God(God and the Word) is the Holy spirit, one God one spirit.






In the Bible the "Spirit of God" is the Holy Spirit,
God is a Spirit, the Spirit of God-the Holy Spirit, is God.

The Holy Spirit - the Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets:
1Pe 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

bodysoul:
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

Peacefullove:
Open your eyes to the Bolded brown, If the spirit of God is a person, then it means the spirit of the world too is a person since both are directly contrasted ?

you should really stop telling people they are confused,
the spirit of the world is satan and his lot.


1Jn 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 

Eph 2:2  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

^^^
we become the image of the Lord Jesus by the spirit of the lord Jesus,
even as He is the image of the Father.

Heb_1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

God is a spirit:
Joh 4:24 God is a spirit, and they who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.

Jesus Christ is that spirit:
2Co 3:17 And the Lord is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

johnw74:
That picture is probably closer to how Jesus looked than the pictures showing Him to have long hair and a european face.
I don't believe Jesus had long hair, and He probably looked similar to other Jews of 2000 years ago.



1Co 11:14  Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 

If Jesus had long hair Paul would not have said: "if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him"



Isa 53:2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Jesus was not handsome, just an ordinary looking man.

Handsome to us though.

Come to think of it, Jews in Israel today look more european than they do any other race,
I believe He didn't have long hair though.


trolls @ ifness and Trudax

^^^
you talk often about others being confused,
but you sure are, you say spirit isn't person but thing
like earth sea etc

you have the Spirit of confusion, which is of the devil
you talk about the spirit of the world not being a person,
the spirit of the world is from satan




Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

is God a thing or a person?

If you don't believe Paul's writings, then the Bible to you is not God's inspired word.

Good OP


Joh 6:28  Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 
Joh 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

If you truly believe- have faith in Jesus Christ then you are doing the works of God, who gave you that faith.
Faith in Jesus isn't something we conjure up inside ourselves, it is God given.


Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works,(one's own works) lest any man should boast.

We are saved through God's works, not our own,
God gives us our faith in Christ, our Salvation.

That picture is probably closer to how Jesus looked than the pictures showing Him to have long hair and a european face.
I don't believe Jesus had long hair, and He probably looked similar to other Jews of 2000 years ago.



1Co 11:14  Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 

If Jesus had long hair Paul would not have said: "if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him"



Isa 53:2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Jesus was not handsome, just an ordinary looking man.

Handsome to us though.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, God is a Spirit.
Some without saving faith(faith given by God) love to call God an "it"

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 
Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



We are to be baptised in the authority of the Father, in the authority of the Son, and in the authority of the Holy Ghost, in other words in the authority of God.
We are not baptised in the name-authority of an "it":
Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name(authority) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:



We have Love and fellowship with persons, not with "it's":
2Co 13:14  The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion(fellowship) of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.



Some without saving faith are blind to all the scriptures showing the Holy Spirit is a person-is God,
and see only one or two instances of the word "it" being used:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The spirit of God is of course the Holy Spirit:
Mat_3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

And the spirit of God is the spirit of Christ:
Rom_8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.



The Holy spirit moved upon the face of the waters
 

The Word created all that was created


Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him;(the Word) and without him(the Word) was not any thing made that was made.








Again the Word of God is the Holy Spirit:
Psa 33:6  By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

God and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

scripture say's that "God" created the heaven and the earth,
scripture also say's that all things were made by "the word":

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him;(the Word) and without him(the Word) was not any thing made that was made.


After Genesis 1:1 say's God created the heaven and the earth
then verse 2 shows the Spirit of God(the Holy Spirit) in creation:

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


those Genesis and John verses shows that God and the Word is God,
and John also say's it straight out:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Nigeriadondie:
U with dirty brain show them d light na. If I ask u what makes them brainwashed u will be unable to answer.
People like u wud be rejoicing with wat is happening in Russia but u need to learn from history. Ban of JW didnt start today and not with Russia and it will not end either today or with Russia. Read d link below
https://blog.oup.com/2017/04/banning-jehovahs-witnesses-russia/
U will with unwashed and dirty brain Read Acts 5:34-42. The history of JW is not complete without such challenges. Go and read what dey went thru during WW 2 but we survived and came out stronger. It is not like that ur mushroom one man family church that will brainwash u to enrich himself to build schools u cant afford to enrol, build mansions for them while u live a one room face me i face u, to buy and fuel their exotic cars while u trek to church with ur leggediz benz

You think because some supposed jehovahs witnesses suffered during world war two, that you are special to God,
many peoples and groups suffered during world war two, including jews who reject Jesus Christ.
That's the company you are in.

We are saved through faith
not of works
the saved walk in good works:

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast. 
Eph 2:10  For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

bingbagbo:
i weep for you

@red, I shouldn't have judged you like that,
you are probably here talking about Jesus because you Love Him like I do

johnw74:
The pharisee's were hypocrites.

And as far as you are concerned, I do thank God I don't lie on Bibical matters, and reject and change scriptures.
You are blinded in thinking you are in the faith, and you don't know that you have already fallen.



Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when He had been baptized, went up immediately out of the water. And lo, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon Him.
Mat 3:17 And lo, a voice from Heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


In those two plain and easy to understand verses we have the Holy Spirit descending on Jesus, and the voice of the Father from Heaven.

The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit together at the same time.

bingbagbo said it didn't happen, he said the Holy spirit didn't descend on Jesus, and God's voice was not heard from Heaven,
and he gave a ridiculous false meaning to those verses, to support his demonic rejection of those events.

You explained that well Kenneth

ismail00:
see how silly u are talking.

see how you have no understanding



Act_5:30  The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Joh_20:25  The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

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The Lord(Jesus) said:
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The Lord(Jesus) continued:
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

John turned to see who was speaking to him:
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Jesus affirmed to John that it is indeed Him:

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


Actually throughout revelation it is Jesus talking through His angel:
Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.



Of course Alpha and Omega is God, Father and Son,
In Revelation Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ speaking through His Angel.

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It is the Word-Jesus Christ, who through His Angel speaks to John:

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

When things are said in revelation, such as "I am Alpha and Omega"
it is Jesus speaking through His Angel.

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect

The antichrist jehovah's witnesses sect say in this thread that the Alpha and Omega is Father God,
however the scriptures show that the Alpha and Omega is Jesus Christ.

These verses below show that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending,
they show that the beginning and the ending is the first and the last,
and that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:


Rev_1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The above verse say's that the Alpha and Omega is the beginning and the ending, the Almighty,
the below verse say's that the Alpha and omega, the beginning and the ending, is the first and the last:

Rev_22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And this verse below shows that the first and the last is Jesus Christ:

Rev_2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

mary has rosary beads,
does mary pray the "hail mary" too

ismail00:
secondly mr man can u explain hung vs nailed

one is hanging on a tree-cross, whether one is nailed or tied

Yes Jesus is God



Psa 78:35  And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1Co 10:4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.