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ejimatic:
The purpose of what I say here is not to win argument but to express our belief which may be different from yours- Everybody is entitled to his opinion-However I want to reiterate that Jehovah's witnesses do not have a hide and seek operational system.All we do is in the full glare of the public including our worship and evangelism which are done in more than 240 countries-In addition, Jesus ,our lord, used God'name (John 17:6) and witnessed about God( Rev 1 :2, 5).Besides, it is true disciples were called Christians in the first century CE, but right from the Bible times God's people were called his witnesses-Jesus was even referred to as God, witness (Rev 1 vrs 2 and 5).Thus, it is appropriate for us to bear the scriptural name christian Jehovah's witnesses (Isaiah 43:10-12) in imitation of Jesus-

Yahweh is God:
Exo_6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
^^^
No man has seen Father God, this is the Word of God.
Joh_6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

God is God and the Word:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Yahweh-the Word is speaking here:
Isa 43:10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 
Isa 43:11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 
Isa 43:12  I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am

Concerning Jesus here:
Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Isa verse 11. there is no saviour besides Yahweh-the Word of God
ACT verse 12. there is no salvation in and other than Jesus Christ

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.



Rom 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

false jw don't believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, they believe He was vapourised or
some such rubbish

the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect are not saved, are not Christians.

dolphinheart:
yes I read it, did you read my reply, do you understand my reply?

The answer is A
the issue is not about the Greek word "theos", Isaiah told us the meaning of the name "Immanuel" not "theos".

Emmanuel, means God with us, so Jesus is God with us
Emmanuel doesn't mean "a god" with us, so Jesus isn't "a god" with us
Jesus cannot be called "a god" as you antichrist dolphinheart call Him

G1694
Ἐμμανουήλ
Emmanouēl
em-man-oo-ale'
Of Hebrew origin [H6005]; God with us; Emmanuel, a name of Christ: - Emmanuel.
Total KJV occurrences: 1





Even correct grammar alone shows that God's Son cannot be "a god"

however "a god's" son can be "a god"

dolphinheart:
I asked him a question, I like to ask you too, hope you will answer
one of heman's son is called eliathah. can you tell us what that names means and can you tell us if it means that the person bearing that name is god?

Father is God, Jesus is the Son of God

haman is not Father God and eliathan is Not Father God's Son

there is no comparison except to a fool.

Pro_13:16  Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly.
Pro_18:2  A fool hath no delight in understanding....
Pro_24:7  Wisdom is too high for a fool....
Pro_26:11  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
Ecc_2:14  ....but the fool walketh in darkness:....
Ecc_5:3  ....and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.


eliathan
H448
אֱלִיָּתָה    אֱלִיאָתָה
'ĕlı̂y'âthâh    'ĕlı̂yâthâh
el-ee-aw-thaw'    el-ee-yaw-thaw'
From H410 and H225; God of (his) consent; Eliathah, an Israelite: - Eliathah.
Total KJV occurrences: 2

eliathan = God of (his) consent = a false god
however he could be God to you a/c dolphinheart

elaithan comes from el which can be used for God or can be used for any diety-false gods,
lie lie dolphinheart eliathan is not God, but a false god.

el
H410
אֵל
'êl
ale
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity): - God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might (-y one), power, strong. Compare names in “-el.”
Total KJV occurrences: 242


duh you a/c are so dum, or should I say evil,
both is true.

Lie lie dolphinheart

because rev 1:8 where John calls the Alpha and Omega "the Almighty"
makes you think it's Father speaking even though the verses show other wise

you false jw teach that almighty God is the Father alone, when in fact almighty God is God, Father and the Word.

almighty God and mighty God are two diffrent terms for the one True God:

In this instance mighty is referring to Jesus:
Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

In this instance mighty is referring to Yahweh:
Psa 50:1  A Psalm of Asaph. The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.

mighty-almighty God is Jesus, is Yahweh, is God.


Of course Yahweh is Jesus, just another thing that you a/c jw don't know,
denying the Lord and Savious Jesus Christ at your every opportunity.



Jesus is known as God Almighty, and His name is Yahweh:
God Almighty(the Word-Jesus Christ) appeared to men:

Exo_6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Gen 17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Gen 48:3  And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,



No man has seen the Father:
Joh_1:18  No man hath seen God(Father) at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Joh_5:37  And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Joh_6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

dolphinheart:
[b]rev 1:8

New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

New Living Translation
"I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come--the Almighty One."

English Standard Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Berean Study Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, who is and was and is to come--the Almighty.

Berean Literal Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says Lord God, the One being, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty.

New American Standard Bible 
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "the One who is, who was, and who is coming, the Almighty." 

International Standard Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who was, and who is coming, the Almighty."

NET Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God--the one who is, and who was, and who is still to come--the All-Powerful! 

New Heart English Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I am The Alap and The Tau, says THE LORD JEHOVAH God, he who is and has been and is coming, The Almighty.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
"I am the A and the Z," says the Lord God, the one who is, the one who was, and the one who is coming, the Almighty. 

New American Standard 1977 
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

American Standard Version
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

Darby Bible Translation
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith [the] Lord God, he who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

English Revised Version
I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, which is and which was and which is to come,

Weymouth New Testament
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "He who is and was and evermore will be--the Ruler of all."

World English Bible
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."[/b]

THE BEST AND OLDEST AVAILABLE MANUSCRIPTS DO NOT HAVE THE WORDS "BEGINNING AND ENDING" IN REV 1:8, PLS TELL US WHICH MANUSCRIPT DID YOUR BIBLE USE TO GET THOSE WORDS IT ADDED?

WE KNOW IT WAS GOD WHO GAVE JESUS THE REVELATION
Re 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John,

WE know Jesus is not the God who gave him the revelation, in fact in revelation he Called that God " my God".

We also know that from examinING revelation 1: 4-6 , the one who is who was and who is to come is not Jesus as much as Jesus is not the seven spirits.

@ green
duh, Alpha and Omega means "beginning and ending", "first and last"

also you have a problem with Father giving Jesus revelation, and so think that it's Jesus speaking about Father,
duh, have shown that's not the case, but will show again for the pleasure of others seeing just who false jw is

such a confused antichrist, but you cannot be any other way

your chosen verses don't make any diffrence lie lie

It's still Jesus talking:
New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty"


Jesus said: I am Alpha and Omega, John added the Almighty
Jesus said: I am he that liveth, and was dead, this was not Father speaking,
nor is it Jesus speaking about the Father, but about Himself
revelation is Jesus speaking through His Angel, but twist away antichrist

Jesus said: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches"
it's Jesus talking not Father, and not Jesus talking for Father, or about Father
and Jesus sent His Angel, Father didn't send Jesus Angel to John

Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ, not Father God:
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Chris, and of all things that he saw.
Jesus Angel gave John the testimony of Jesus, not the testimony of Father

but lie away oh blinded one



Jesus testified:

John heard a voice behing him saying:
Rev 1:11 I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

John turned to see who was speaking and saw one like the Som of man:
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

Jesus said:
Fear not; I am the first and the last: 
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 
Rev 1:19  Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; 
Rev 1:20  The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Jesus speaking:
Rev 22:7  Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.



Jesus said He is "Alpha and Omega"
and I have no objection if you say Father is Alpha and Omega, because He is,
God is the Alpha and Omega, Father and Son is Alpha and Omega, but revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ
it is Jesus speaking, and when He say's I am Alpha and Omega He is speaking of Himself
and when Jesus say's "I am he that liveth, and was dead" Jesus is speaking of Himself, not about Father, and it is not Father speaking.


 





You way heap big lie lie antichrist dolphinheart.

 
Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ, not Father God:
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Chris, and of all things that he saw.

The Angel's record was of the Word of God, it wasn't the record of Father
It was the testimony of Jesus Christ

duh so clear but not for blinded a/c

dolphinheart:
you should know by now that I will not resort to your mode of discussion, only people who cannot respond to certain things will erase such things when responding to somethings post.
This issue you raised above has been responded to by me more than once!, you could not respond to it but decided to erase it when quoting me.
If you had left my post in full out resorting to removing certain scriptures and explanations, you will have see the truth. As long as you use this method to any of my post, I will not respond to you, I'll assume that the parts you erased are true, thus you could not respond to them!

lie lie dolphinheart

you don't reply because my post is the truth, and I keep exposing your lies

such a blinded antichrist
the only way you respond is through lies and twisting

Christians believe Jesus when He say's I am Alpha and Omega in Revelation which is the testimony of Jesus.
but how great is the darkness of evil antichrists

Jesus speaks of you:
Mat_6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

lie lie dolphinheart

you should re read your posts, but then you would be blinded to all of your confusion everywhere


you say some of "the first and last verses" are Jesus talking because He was the first resurrected
and you say some of the Alpha Omega verses are Father God talking


Here Jesus say's He is the first and last:
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


You lie lie say this is Father God:
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Alpha and Omega of course is Greek for "the first and the last"
is Father God also the first resurrected? ha ha

no, the testimony of Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ.


"the Alpha and Omega" "the first and the last" "the beginning and the ending:
all mean the same thing

duh dum dolph

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw say that Jesus Christ is an angel




However Jesus is clearly God

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by
the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name
than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And
again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of
God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Not only does Father show clearly that Jesus is not an angel
He then calls Jesus God:

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is

These verses could not be plainer or easier to understand
and still false jw twist and lie and change God's word to their destruction.

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw don't believe that Yahweh is Jesus


Yahweh:
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus:
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
^^^
every knee in Heaven shall bow to Jesus, sounds like He is God Almighty doesn't it



Jehovah said "unto me every knee shall bow"

"at the name of Jesus every knee should bow"

lie lie dolphinheart

Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ, not Father God:
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Chris, and of all things that he saw.

Jesus testified:
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending
John added:
the Almighty

John heard a voice behing him saying:
Rev 1:11 I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

John turned to see who was speaking and saw one like the Som of man:
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

Jesus said:
Fear not; I am the first and the last: 
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 
Rev 1:19  Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; 
Rev 1:20  The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Jesus speaking:
Rev 22:7  Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 


Jesus Himself made it clear more than once that it is He the Alpha and Omega that is talking, but you antichrist dolphinheart
say those Alpha and Omega verses are Jesus, but the Rev 1:8 Alpha and Omega verse is Yahweh.
That's ridiculous, especially with John saying that Revelation is the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Even if all the Alpha and Omega verses were Jesus talking except for the Alpha Omega verse 8 being Yahweh
then that would show that Yahweh the alpha and Omega is Jesus the Alpha and Omega,
so either way your lies fail you.


You way heap big lie lie antichrist dolphinheart.

Do you even notice all the things you get wrong?
yes you do because you either don't reply to them, or you twist everything around in confusion,
yet you love to continue in your lies oh phony one.

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God
they also teach that the Holy spirit is not God




Father never said to Jesus: ye are "a god"

Father however did say to Jesus: thy throne "O God" is for ever and ever




The Holy Ghost is God.

Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

^^^
Father and Son and Holy Spirit is God,


but antichrist jw's don't believe the Bible, and change and twist what it says
but then they cannot understand it to begin with, they have been taught that the Word is "a god",
they have been taught that Jesus wasn't physicaly resurrected
they have been taught by man, and not the man Jesus

judaism, islam, and atheists, all do not believe the Word our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is God
judaism, islam, and atheists, all do not believe Jesus was bodily resurrected,
that's the company that the jehovahs witnesses sect is in.

A time is coming when Jews will believe and call on His name

Zec 12:10  And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

dolphinheart:
Secondly we know that God almighty sits on his throne, the throne of God, did John see Jesus on that throne ? no.

duh, is there no end to your lies lie lie dolphinheart? no there isn't
your claim is that Jesus doesn't sit on the Fathers Throne

Ha ha, again how blind you are a/c dolphinheart,
so dum, do you know anything at all lie lie, no you don't



In revelation Jesus is sitting on Fathers throne with the Father, and we in Christ(Christians) will sit on that same throne in Jesus

Jesus Speaking:
Rev_3:21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


Rev_22:1  And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev_22:3  And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

verse 21, Jesus sits on the Fathers throne with Father
verse 1, water of life flows from the throne of God and of the Lamb, one throne
verse 3, the throne of God and of the Lamb, one throne, shall be in the New Jerusalem

God and the Lamb is God who sits on the Throne of God (same as John 1:1, God and the Word is God)

duh a/c dolphinheart, your lies false accusing and confusion are never ending, do you know anything? no

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God



No man has seen the Father:

Joh 6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Joh_1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
1Jn_4:12  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

Note also, God dwelleth in us (in Christians that is)




No man has seen the Father, but the Word Jesus Christ appeared to some
Some more verses showing that the Word-Jesus Christ is God Almighty, is yahweh:

Gen 12:7  And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Gen 17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD(Yahweh) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Gen 48:3  And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me, 

Exo_6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.




Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

brocab:
Is Dolphinheart still going on about that?

yea, ha ha, when all antichrist has is lies, then all he can do is keep repeat repeat repeat repeating them

dolphinheart:
part two
CAN YOU YOUR SELF SEE HOW FAR YOU HAD TO EDIT MY POST TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I MADE JUST ONE STATEMENT? IT IS NOT BY FORCE THAT YOU MUST REPLY, IF YOU CANT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS OR EXPLAIN THOSE SCRIPTURES , WHY CANT YOU JUST LEAVE THE POST ALONE. EDITING PEOPLE'S POST SHOWS WHO YOU TRULY ARE!

lie lie dolphinheart

There is no end to your lies false accusations and confusion, and unbelief,
and denial of Christ and His word the Bible



antichrist dolphinheart

you continue in your same old repeating lies and false accusings and confusions,

Jesus says He is Lord God, John calls Him the Almighty

it is Jesus speaking to John through His Angel

you are antichrist denying the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are blinded

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


and concerning your very very many words of denying Jesus

Ecc_5:3  For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.





Jesus is Lord God the Almighty who in Revelation speaks through His angel:

Scriptures you posted don't show different to this, you have no understanding of the scriptures,
and how could you have, you preach that the Holy Spirit is not God

johnw74:
God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel


Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

dolphinheart:
cus of size, I've split this post into two : part 1


IT'S EASY TO SEE YOUR MANIPULATIONS, YOU CAN ONLY REPLY ME ONLY AFTER EDITING MY POST, ONLY AFTER REMOVING CERTAIN SCRIPTURES CERTAIN EXPLANATIONS AND CERTAIN QUESTIONS WHICH SHOWS YOU TO BE FALSE .
BELOW IS THE FULL POST OF MY RESPONSE TO YOU, SHOWING WHAT YOU SAID AND HOW I RESPONSE, YOU EDITED MY POST , ONLY TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THE SAME THINGS IVE ALREADY RESPONDED TO.

antichrist dolphinheart

you continue in your same old repeating lies and false accusings and confusions,
the diffrent translations you post don't show that it is Father speaking,
Jesus says He is Lord God, John calls Him the Almighty
I have not just shown but proved from the Bible that in the book of Revelation
it is Jesus speaking to John through His Angel
you are antichrist denying the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are blinded

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


and about your very very many words of denying Jesus

Ecc_5:3  For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.





Jesus is Lord God the Almighty who speaks through His angel in Revelation
just one other verse where the word Jesus Christ Himself said He is God Almighty and Yahweh:
Exo_6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
false jw dolphinheart, you have been blinded vvv

johnw74:
God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel


Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

the pharisees of Jesus day are the jehovahs witnesses sect of today




Jesus said to pharisee jw's:
Mat 23:13  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

pharisees's of old like the jw pharisees today neither enter God's Kingdom and hinder those who are entering(Christians)

Jesus said to pharisee jw's:
Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

the pharisees of old as the pharisee jw's today travel all over to make converts to their faith, and as we can see
here in these forums their converts become worse than they are (jozzy dum, waco acho, etc).

Mat 23:24  Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 

pharisee jw's strain at the truth and swollow lies

Mat_23:26  Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

pharisee of old are rotten on the inside, just like the pharisee jw's today

Luk_18:10  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk_18:11  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

pharisees of old were self righteous like the jw pharisees of today

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God



A sacrifice was needed to save the world-man from it's sins.
God-Spirit, could not die, God had to become man to die, and to die for man,

an ordinary man could not save the world
an angel could not save the world


Only God could save the world:

Concerning Jesus:
Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Concerning Yahweh:
Isa 45:22  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

^^^
Jesus-Yahweh is the Saviour of the world


God sent his Son to die the sacrifice-the punishment for all of mans sins
God sent His Son, the Word of God, that was with God and was God


1Co_2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 





Joh 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son(the Word of God), that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


Many say they are Christians but they don't believe Christ is God in the flesh,
they say He is "a god", "a angel", but "a god", "a angel", could not save the world, only God can Act 4:12, Isa 45:22,
they are antichrist that deny the Lord Jesus Christ-supreme in authority-God.







Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one. 

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


verse 30 Jesus and His Father are one.
verse 23 Jesus and Father is the Holy Spirit-God
verse 24 God is a Spirit, Jesus and the Father is that Holy Spirit, Jesus and the Father is that one true God.

^^^
yea, just about any time is a good time to celebrate Jesus birth-God becoming man to save the World

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God


Father God has not been seen by man:

Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God(Father) at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Joh 5:37  And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Joh 6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.




The Word of God who became Jesus Christ, was seen by man, He was called God Almighty
He said He is Yahweh:

Exo 6:2  And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD(Yahweh): 
Exo 6:3  And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God



Jesus Christ is Lord:
Php_2:11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord(kurios), to the glory of God the Father.

Lord
G2962
κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.
Total KJV occurrences: 748

If Jesus Christ was just Mr. master or Sir why proclaim that, it would not be to the glory of God the Father,
many men are Mr. master or sir.
But, if Jesus Christ was supreme in authority, God, then that would be worthy to proclaim, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus Christ is Lord, supreme in authority, God.



When Jesus finally saves Judah and Israel, He will be called THE LORD(YAHWEH) OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS:
Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect do some pathetic twisting, saying that Thomas was startled and said "my Lord and my God" in fright
but the Apostles never took the Lords name in vain on any ocassion

Jesus replied "because you have seen you believe"
not a reply to someone who has just taken God's name in vain,
but a reply of affirmation to Thomas's statement that Jesus Christ is his "Lord and his God"

1Co 12:3  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 

Christians can say that Jesus is Lord, supreme in authority, God
but antichrist false jw not having the Holy Ghost cannot say Jesus is Lord, supreme in authority, God.

They not only cannot say it, they cannot see it:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

antichrist false jw teach that the Word-Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is not God




Jesus talking:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 
Rev 1:19  Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; 
Rev 1:20  The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. 

Rev 2:1  Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 

Rev 3:1  And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.




Rev 22:7  Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. 

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.



Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 






Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Revelation is the testimony of Jesus, from start to finish.

dolphinheart:
read rev 1: 1-6
If you had read those verses, you would have known that is was not Jesus that was talking in Rev 1: 8, it was God the almighty, who gave Jesus the revelation.

duh, a/c dolphinheart how can one be so dum,
God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel


Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

Barristter07:
ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo

You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

lie lie barristter

you lot cannot help but lie

Jesus said to the pharisees-todays antichrist jw's:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Barristter07:
dont mind those 419's , if truly brocab believe the statement God was manifest in flesh . what stops him from accepting Mary as the mother of God ? Or is it not God that was manifest in the flesh that Mary gave birth to ?

lie lie barristter

still pretending to be a Barrister, but you cannot even spell the word
your user name two t's

Most Christians would not think of cursing by using God's name, but yet the JW's still take His name in vain.

dolphinheart:
Give an example , liar!

lie lie dolphinheart

I will give an example of you taking God's name in vain

I have posted many Bible verses showing that Father and Jesus is God,
and you lie lie dolphinheart said concerning Father and Jesus:

"if Jesus is that same God, then He is a two headed God"



so you lie lie dolphinheart called Father and Jesus(God) "a two headed god"

the fact that you reject the Bible verses showing they are God, is because you are antichrist

Barristter07:
BOOKMARKED

such a girly

This is basically all that lie lie barristter can say:



ha ha,

Barristter07:
ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo

You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

lie lie barristter

you could also stop being a coward and post in english
stop being a coward ha ha, impossible

Barristter07:
ko gbenu e soun . mi o le rerin oooo


You have exposed the guys flawed knowledge.

lie lie barristter

perhaps you antichrist can show where

Jozzy4:
Correct, now shut your mouth.

ha ha, like I said take your crying home with you dum

Jozzy4:
J


Kikikkkikkk, this shallow guy

@ bold , Jesus is just a man when on earth ?

take your crying home with you dum