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Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74: 7:29am On Feb 14, 2017
GoodMuyis:
Next take time to check your post it is RESTITUTION not retribution.

Claiming that I agree with you is a baseless point, or you have assumed that you have lectured me on the topic GRACE abi? Wrong

Am a product of grace, and a preacher of grace.

I have given you just two verses above go and study it perhaps the Holy Spirit will teach you something new
James 5:16 is about confessing faults and praying to be healed of sickness
it is not about doing restitution to make rapture-heaven

and James 4:17 is not about doing restitution to make rapture-heaven
it's about doing good wherever you can, I haven't said differently to those verses,
but adding-twisting-lying is what you like to do
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74:
GoodMuyis:
Next take time to check your post it is RESTITUTION not retribution.

Claiming that I agree with you is a baseless point, or you have assumed that you have lectured me on the topic GRACE abi? Wrong

Am a product of grace, and a preacher of grace.

I have given you just two verses above go and study it perhaps the Holy Spirit will teach you something new
well at least you can correct a mis word
as for other in your posts, keep lying to yourself
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74: 11:37pm On Feb 13, 2017
GoodMuyis:
johnw74

You missed it and also missed my simple sentence, less than 15 word. So quick you descend into sermon pool as if we are ignorant of what GRACE is.

Restitution being vital does not mean it is the criteria to heaven, Salvation through faith in Christ is the way, simple!.

yourself acknowledged below:


Restitution is a spiritual exercises undertaken as a Christian get mature in faith. In most cases The Holy Spirit will bring strong conviction on you to do it, but if you refuse, isn't a disobedience? YES it is.

We have record of women who separate from husband as a result of being second wife. The Holy Spirit Convicted them, that they are occupying someone else home and they yield and vacate in obedience.

The brother in question must have being earlier instructed to do restitution but refuse, that must have been disobedience on his part, and God who is dealing with him privately know his heart, revealed to him his mistakes, and why he may missed heaven, this detail you did not considered also before commenting.

I leave you with James 5:16, 4:17
I missed nothing
annyplenty said a man asked God if he died now would he make heaven
God said "NO" because he hadn't told his wife that he cheated on her

you agreed with anny saying retribution is vital to heaven bound christians

I said faith is necessary to make heaven, not retribution
and now you agree with that

but now you are adding things that were not said in anny's post concerning the man and God
if you believe it was God saying "NO" to the man, then you cannot see past the end of your nose

the world these days is full of so called christians who claim, God said.......

you was wrong and now you are adding to what was said-lying
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74:
annyplenty:
Let us look at some scriptures.
Joel 2:31
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD (day of rapture) come.

In the prophecy above, given by Prophet Joel, about the day of the Lord (day of rapture), the following things are to be noted.

i the sun shall turn to darkness.
ii the moon shall turn to blood.
iii the two things above must happen BEFORE the day of rapture comes.

It will be of interest to you to know that the prophecies i and ii above have been fulfilled. The last of the blood moons came out on September 28, 2015, and was visible across many nations. I have received several visions concerning these blood moons.
Sure, ordinary Christians have dreams and imaginings,
but you have visions and words from God,
pity they don't all line up with the Bible.
These days there appear to be more of your type than the ordinary.



The sun moon and star events are probably supernatural as God done in Egypt
for instance stars cannot lose their light from sun and moon eclipses

Eze 32:7  And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light. 
Eze 32:8  All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord GOD.

^^^ God blocked the sun's light from shining on Egypt with cloud
obviously very dense dark cloud



Joe 2:30  And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

^^^ the moon would look blood red through the fire and smoke at the sixth seal

You are right about the rapture getting closer though.
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74: 5:40am On Feb 13, 2017
annyplenty:
I am not prophesying doom. I am only saying what the Lord asked me to say. The end time as depicted in the scripture is not a rosy time. It is a time of scary occurrences like those of Boko haram, recessions, earthquakes and the likes that we are witnessing. Besides, I did not say that the hurricane is coming in 2016 but it is coming.
The internet and the world is full of people claiming God told them



annyplenty:
..................Let us look at some scriptures.
Joel 2:31
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD (day of rapture) come.

In the prophecy above, given by Prophet Joel, about the day of the Lord (day of rapture), the following things are to be noted.

i the sun shall turn to darkness.
ii the moon shall turn to blood.
iii the two things above must happen BEFORE the day of rapture comes.

It will be of interest to you to know that the prophecies i and ii above have been fulfilled. The last of the blood moons came out on September 28, 2015, and was visible across many nations. I have received several visions concerning these blood moons.................




.......................When John was given the vision about rapture above, he saw those things that Prophet Joel saw above and a little more than Joel.

The following things are to be noted about the vision of John.

i moon turned to blood and sun to darkness (same thing Joel saw)

ii there was a great earthquake that made all people to go and hide.

iii the two things above must happen AFTER the 6th seal has been broken.
Let me quickly say that on 23/05/2013, it was revealed to me that the 5th seal had been broken, already, and the message was posted here. So we had been eagerly waiting for the breaking of the 6th seal which will eventually lead to rapture.
Now, since that the moon had turned to blood and sun to darkness, two conclusions can be drawn as follows.

i the 6th seal had been broken.
ii. the great earthquake will also happen.

MESSAGE OF THE DREAM
i the great earthquake (global earthquake) will take place any moment................
You say the sixth seal has been broken because the last of the blood moons came out on September 28, 2015

you say the blood moon and darkened sun have happened, and the great earthquake is next
however the scriptures you quoted put it diffrent, John said when the sixth seal is opened there was a great earthquake first and then the sun and moon events happen, at best they happen at close to the same time, Joel put them in the same order as John.

perhaps God made a mistake in telling you, or you misheard him
I suggest you stick to what the Bible say's.

Rev 6:12  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 

Joe 2:10  The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74:
GoodMuyis:
Here we go again with unnecessary argument of GRACE.

Restitution is vital to heaven bound Christians
annyplenty:
God bless you.
Lies love lies


Perhaps restitution can be said to be vital, but to make heaven?


A brother in Christ who repented, which means that he confessed to God, turned away from that sin, and asked for forgiveness,
he then asked God that if he died at that time would he make Heaven,
God said "NO", because he hasn't confessed to his wife


you believe that, OK, bad for you





Believers do what restitution we can, what we cannot do doesn't block our way to heaven,
it's easy for you to say that's not so, post the scriptures to show it's not so




johnw74:
The saved do good works because of the Holy Spirit in them, if God leads you to do something, then do it,
if he doesn't, then don't let anyone worry you saying you must do this and you must do that to be saved.

You must believe in Jesus Christ is all you must do, He will see to the rest.
While you are at it, post scriptures showing that's not true also.



Faith without works is dead
because we are saved through faith we do good works,
we don't do good works to be saved

If we have any works we must do, Christ will leed us in them
We are justified by faith, not by any works that we do

Eph 2:5  Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;

Rom 3:24  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Luk 7:50  And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.


^^^ restitution-works, don't get people to Heaven,
belief-faith does, if you believe those verses
Christianity EtcRe: The Global Great Earthquake (revelation 6:12) Is Coming! Rapture Is Imminent! by johnw74: 7:26am On Feb 12, 2017
annyplenty:
I think when your time to go is near, the blessed Holy Spirit can attest to that for you.

That is why Apostle Paul said his going is near, he had fought a good fight and kept the faith and a crown of righteousness is awaiting him.

Also, I have watched a testimony of a brother who prayed that God should tell him if he died at that time he was going to make heaven but the answer he got was NO because of an undone restitution. He cheated on his wife. Though he had repented but he never told his wife that he cheated on her.

That is the work of the Holy Spirit but I think people might get complacent if the Holy Spirit tells them they are going to make heaven and they will become negligent in their Christian race. Rather, I think the Holy Spirit might just be guiding us, giving us instructions bit by bit, rebuking us when we fall into sin, until we eventually make heaven.

That is my submission.
@bold
That answer "NO" that a brother in Christ got for not being able to confess unfaithfulness to his wife,
was not from God.

God doesn't rejects a brother of faith because he is not perfect



Christians are saved by grace through faith,
not by works

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.


The saved do good works because of the Holy Spirit in them, if God leads you to do something, then do it,
if he doesn't, then don't let anyone worry you saying you must do this and you must do that to be saved.

You must believe in Jesus Christ is all you must do, He will see to the rest.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:27pm On Feb 11, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw don't believe that the Word-Jesus Christ is God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Joh 10:28  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 
Joh 10:29  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 
Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one.

Jesus and His Father are not one person, but one Spirit, one God, God is a Spirit




also false jw don't believe that the Holy Spirit is God

God is a Spirit, the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1Co_3:16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus god? by johnw74:
johnw74:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Joh 10:28  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 
Joh 10:29  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 
Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one.
^^^ Jesus and His Father are not one person, but one Spirit, one God. God is a Spirit



not only is the Word-Jesus Christ God, also, the Holy Spirit is God


God is a Spirit, the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1Co_3:16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Joh_14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus god? by johnw74: 5:47am On Feb 11, 2017
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Joh 10:28  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 
Joh 10:29  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 
Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There A Mother God? by johnw74: 5:40am On Feb 11, 2017
Mary was the mother of the man Jesus, she was not the mother of His Spirit-the Word of God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean That Job Repented In Dust And Ashes? by johnw74:
dust and ashes is the least thing in the world
it is what everything is broken down into
Abraham saw that he was just like dust and ashes before the LORD
that he was like nothing before the LORD, or compared to the LORD

Gen_18:27  And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:


Job 42:1  Then Job answered the LORD, and said, 
Job 42:2  I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. 
Job 42:3  Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. 
Job 42:4  Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. 
Job 42:5  I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. 
Job 42:6  Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

Job was defending his righteousness to his fellows
but now face to face with God he sees he is but nothing
covering himself in dust and ashes was an outward sign of repentance

none is righteous, except in Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Answers To Common Objections To The Existence Of God And Of Christianity by johnw74: 12:27am On Jan 31, 2017
Did Jesus Identify Himself as God?

There is no prophet other than Jesus that could or dare say he who believes in me or abides in me has eternal life, (Jn.6:35,47;11:25; Jn.15)

Or asked to the people to follow me (Mt.19:21;10:21; Lk. 18:22).

Nor could any other prophet state that there are massive consequences for not believing who he said he is. There is probably no more of an important statement than when Jesus said to the people “for if you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins” (John 8:24).

from: Trinity/Deity: Did Jesus Identify Himself as God?

an informative site: http://www.letusreason.org/
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:59pm On Jan 30, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw claim to be the only true church,
so do many others

The Only True Church

Just about everyone who has started a movement has declared themselves the only true church on earth. In this they claim one must join their exclusive group or organization to be saved and to be a Christian. Many believe there has been a complete apostasy already, so there is need of a full restoration. While God does have a true Church on earth, he has already stated how one enters to be part of this Church. First lets go through the many familiar and some not so familiar groups that claim to be the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Then we will look at how one enters the true church.

Mormonism LDS- 13th LDS President Ezra Taft Benson, “This is not just another Church. This is not just one of a family of Christian churches. This is the Church and kingdom of God, the only true Church upon the face of the earth...” (Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p.164-165). This church is the only true and living church on the face of the whole earth (D and C 1:30) “There is no salvation outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints (Mormon Doctrine, p.670)

“Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the Church of the Lamb of God and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore who so belongeth not to the church of the lamb of God belongeth to that great church; which is the mother of abominations; and she is the LovePeddler of all the earth.” (The Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10)

on April 8, 1973, LDS Apostle Mark E. Petersen proclaimed that salvation “comes only through the Church itself as the Lord established it... Therefore it was made clearly manifest that salvation is in the Church, and of the Church, and is obtained only through the Church.”

“The Roman Catholic, Greek, and Protestant church, is the great corrupt, ecclesiastical power, represented by great Babylon....” (Orson Pratt, Writings of an Apostle, “Divine Authenticity,” no.6, p.84).

the LDS church is, “the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased ...” Brigham Young (Mormonism's Second President)

“Our message is so imperative, when you stop to think that the salvation, the eternal salvation of the world, rests upon the shoulders of this Church. When all is said and done, if the world is going to be saved, we have to do it “ (“Church Is Really Doing Well,” Church News (a bi-weekly publication by the Mormon church), July 3 1999, 3)

Jehovah’s Witnesses- The Gospel of the Kingdom ceased to be proclaimed shortly after the death of the apostles. It was not preached again until after 1918.(WT, 12/1/1928, pp. 363-64)

We acknowledge as the visible organization of Jehovah on earth the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and recognize the Society as the Channel or instrument through which Jehovah and Christ Jesus give instruction and meat in due season to the household of faith. (Watchtower, April 15, 1939 p. 125)

“ The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society the one and only channel which the Lord has used in dispensing his truth continually since the beginning of the harvest period?” (WT 4/1/1919, p. 6414)

“The world is full of Bibles…why then do the people not know which was to go? Because, they do not also have the teaching or law of the mother, which is light.”(WT 5/1/1957, p.274)

“Outside the true Christian congregation what alternative organization is there? Only Satan’s organization…”(Watchtower 3/1/1979 p.24)

“Consider too, the fact that Jehovah's organization alone in all the earth is directed by God's holy spirit or active force.” (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, page 402)

continue here: http://www.letusreason.org/cult12.htm
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:31am On Jan 27, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

atheists and sects such as the jehovahs witnesses
claim the Bible is corrupted.

with atheist, they just don't believe the bible,
but with the jehovahs witnesses sect it's worse
than that, they not only don't believe much of it, but change what it say's.

Mat 15:9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Pro 30:6  Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ, The Power And Wisdom Of God - Joseph Prince by johnw74:
Christ, the power of God:

2Co_12:9  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

read Gen 1:2



Christ, the wisdom of God:

Pro 8:14  Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
 
read Pro 8:22-30



Christ, the Word of God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

read Isa 9:6
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:10pm On Jan 23, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw lied and said: 1925 - "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"

"Millions now living will never die!" was exclaimed by Rutherford in a series of public lectures starting 1918. This was related to his prophecy that the earthly resurrection would commence 1925, with the return to life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and became the focus of the preaching work in the following years.

article: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1925.php

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

those and many other scriptures describes pharisee false jw so well
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Jehovah's Witness Religion Christianity? by johnw74: 11:02pm On Jan 22, 2017
edogho:
ur God, terriblehuh
no wonder
Yes He was a mighty and terrible God to Israels enemies.
Christianity EtcRe: That Silly Question - "Where Did God Come From" - Aseity Discussion. by johnw74: 6:05am On Jan 22, 2017
^^^
oxymoron

paradox

contradictory Statement
Christianity EtcRe: The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. by johnw74: 2:15am On Jan 22, 2017
Splinz:
In Summary



THE END



PS: This is it! This is the true history! The Catholic church has always been nothing but a synagogue of Satan!
It seems like many other so called christian religions-sects have sprung from that same counterfeit movement,
jehovah's witnesses etc.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean That Jesus Fulfilled The Law, But Did Not Abolish It? by johnw74: 12:46am On Jan 22, 2017
Those under the law had to keep the law, which no man could, until the man Jesus, who sinned not.
And there had to be sacrifice for man's sins if they are to be saved.

Jesus Christ was the sacrifice for all the sins of the world, for those who believe,
they don't have to keep the law or sacrifice over and over for their sins, they just have to have faith in
Jesus sacrifice for them.



I haven't seen where the law has been done away with, we still are not to steal and kill for instance,
but we don't any more have to be perfect and not sin to be saved, which is impossible for mere man.

The fact that Jesus never sinned and so was worthy to be our saviour, is proof that He is God in the flesh,
what man other than He could endure all temptations and not sin.

2Co_5:21  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Jehovah's Witness Religion Christianity? by johnw74: 12:28am On Jan 22, 2017
No jw are not Christians

Christians are followers of Jesus Christ-God in the flesh:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God


jw follow a jesus who was an angel, in other words jw follow a false jesus



Christians believe in one God

jw believes in almighty god jehovah, and mighty god jesus, two diffrent god's there.


Almighty and mighty are names for the one true God:
Gen_17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Deu_7:21  Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:03pm On Jan 21, 2017
bro, it's good they are not here, preaching their lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Answers To Common Objections To The Existence Of God And Of Christianity by johnw74: 11:15pm On Jan 20, 2017
Gen 1:31  And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 

After creating man, God looked at all He had made and saw that everything was very good,
there was no need for anything to evolve, to become better or diffrent.
Christianity EtcRe: Answers To Common Objections To The Existence Of God And Of Christianity by johnw74: 5:03am On Jan 20, 2017
apes were created along with all other land animals on the sixth day

Gen 1:24  And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 
Gen 1:25  And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



after creating all land animals, God then made man, also on the sixth day, but man was given dominion-rule
over all animals which includes apes

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 
Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


God created man in His image,
God did not create ape that will evolve into man-His image.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean That Jesus Rose "Again"? by johnw74: 4:45am On Jan 18, 2017
Joh 6:39  And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 

these believers haven't been raised up from the dead before,
but they will be raised up to life again at the last day
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
brocab:
Got questions is great..I find it helpful at times-they are excellent scholars at work.
The JW's are resting, I haven't heard much of them at all-on any page-Dolphinheart come out come out wherever you are?
This may sound to far fetch but maybe they finally came to their senses, and finally they found the truth in Christ?
yea, carm dot org is good as well, they say what the Bible clearly says

it's amazing how sectarians interperit the Bible to suit their doctrines
rather than the other way around, getting their doctrines from the Bible,
and even after that they believe they are in the truth

but here is another Bible verse that explains it without changing anything;

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

they don't want the truth they want what sounds good to them from their teachers

2Ti_4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

they, and not just false jw, have men as their teachers, rather than the Holy Spirit and the unpolluted Bible
their beliefs are formulated for them

true Christian teachers, teach from God's word
sectarian false jw teachers, teach from their man made doctrines
with twisting and changing the Bible to make it line up

they also wrongly believe that they will be saved, partly by their works,
truly their satanic works are sending them to the Lake of Fire
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 4:09am On Jan 16, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

Jehovah's Witnesses Question: "Who are the Jehovah's Witnesses and what are their beliefs?"

Answer: The sect known today as the Jehovah's Witnesses started out in Pennsylvania in 1870 as a Bible class led by Charles Taze Russell. Russell named his group the “Millennial Dawn Bible Study.” Charles T. Russell began writing a series of books he called “The Millennial Dawn,” which stretched to six volumes before his death and contained much of the theology Jehovah’s Witnesses now hold. After Russell's death in 1916, Judge J. F. Rutherford, Russell's friend and successor, wrote the seventh and final volume of the “Millennial Dawn” series, “The Finished Mystery,” in 1917. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was founded in 1886 and quickly became the vehicle through which the “Millennial Dawn” movement began distributing their views to others. The group was known as the “Russellites” until 1931 when, due to a split in the organization, it was renamed the “Jehovah’s Witnesses.” The group from which it split became known as the “Bible students.”

What do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe? Close scrutiny of their doctrinal position on such subjects as the deity of Christ, salvation, the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, and the atonement shows beyond a doubt that they do not hold to orthodox Christian positions on these subjects. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus is Michael the archangel, the highest created being. This contradicts many Scriptures which clearly declare Jesus to be God (John 1:1,14, 8:58, 10:30). Jehovah’s Witnesses believe salvation is obtained by a combination of faith, good works, and obedience. This contradicts countless scriptures which declare salvation to be received by grace through faith (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5). Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the Trinity, believing Jesus to be a created being and the Holy Spirit to essentially be the inanimate power of God. Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the concept of Christ’s substitutionary atonement and instead hold to a ransom theory, that Jesus’ death was a ransom payment for Adam’s sin.

How do the Jehovah’s Witnesses justify these unbiblical doctrines? First, they claim that the church has corrupted the Bible over the centuries; thus, they have re-translated the Bible into what they call the New World Translation. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society altered the text of the Bible to make it fit their false doctrine, rather than basing their doctrine on what the Bible actually teaches. The New World Translation has gone through numerous editions, as the Jehovah’s Witnesses discover more and more Scriptures that contradict their doctrines.

The Watchtower bases its beliefs and doctrines on the original and expanded teachings of Charles Taze Russell, Judge Joseph Franklin Rutherford, and their successors. The governing body of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is the only body in the cult that claims authority to interpret Scripture. In other words, what the governing body says concerning any scriptural passage is viewed as the last word, and independent thinking is strongly discouraged. This is in direct opposition to Paul's admonition to Timothy (and to us as well) to study to be approved by God, so that we need not be ashamed as we correctly handle the Word of God. This admonition, found in 2 Timothy 2:15, is a clear instruction from God to each of His children to be like the Berean Christians, who searched the Scriptures daily to see if the things they were being taught lined up with the Word.

There is probably no religious group that is more faithful than the Jehovah’s Witnesses at getting their message out. Unfortunately, the message is full of distortions, deceptions, and false doctrine. May God open the eyes of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to the truth of the gospel and the true teaching of God’s Word.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Christains Lie!?? by johnw74: 12:53am On Jan 16, 2017
1 they call themselves christains yet there is nothing like christain in bible.
2 they name thier book bible yet there is nothing like bible in bible.
3 they worship on sunday (the day pagans worship sun) or saturday yet there is nothing like worship on sunday or saturday.
4 they go for pilgrimage yet there is nothing like go for pilgrimage in bible.
5 they use church yet there is nothing like church in bible.
Why do you lie?

1 Act_11:26  And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

3 Exo_16:26  Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.

the seventh day is the sabbath day of worship, which is saturday

4 Exo_6:4  And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers.

5 Rev_3:7  And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:01am On Jan 15, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw don't believe that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh


(About YAHWEH)

Isaiah 66:2 “Now all these things my own hand has made, so that all these came to be.”

Isaiah 44:24 “…I, Jehovah, am doing everything, stretching out the heavens, by myself…”

(About Jesus)

John 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:56am On Jan 15, 2017
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw don't believe that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 
Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

of course Jesus would have corrected Thomas if what Thomas said was not true,
but Thomas was correct, Jesus is Lord and God

We can also see from those verses that Jesus was bodily resurrected,
which is another thing antichrist jw deny about Christ.

an antichrist is one who denies Christ, false jw deny Him so very much
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
It's like a holiday here bro, with the demons not being around
cheesy

maybe they have been told again that the kingdom is near?

if that's the case, they will be back again with their bad mouths
just as soon as they realise it's just another false prophecy from
the fallen angels(demons) at their head quarters

the Kingdom is for followers of Christ, not for antichrists,
before Christians are gathered into His Barn
the tares will be bound together to be thrown into the fire

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

antichrist jw's say the Lord and Saviour is "a god", in other words "a false god"
but it is fitting that false jw follow a false jesus, hence a false father

1Jn_2:23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.



Christians are led by God, the Holy Spirit

false jw are led by angels visiting their headquarters, obviously fallen angels(demons)


Rom_8:14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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