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Barristter07:
Emusan



What a dead argument, Tell me: is Jesus, the Father ?

The truth is dead to you, you must mean

You said "the Father" is the one God

are you now saying "The everlasting Father" is not the one God

are you then also saying Jesus is not "The mighty God"

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The title "The everlasting Father" is referring to Jesus as the Word - as God
Jesus as flesh - as man, was often referred to as the Son of God, although many verses which I have posted more than once,
refer to him as God also.
But it takes the right Spirit to be able to understand that. Truth haters have been blinded.

Emusan:
No! You're the one who need to explain to us why Jesus was called EVERLASTING FATHER if we follow this your statement "the whole heaven and earth have just one single Father. he is the one God"

I know you'll begin to turn Bible upside down now

Barristter07:
Johnw74



You won't find this funny I PROMISE YOU, if u fail to provide the evidence for your stated claim above .

Lie lie barristter

you false jw's sure get hysterical,
what you gona do, get the debil onto me

Barristter07:
419 , Show me Where I quote Jesus as saying " ONLY the father is the true God" ?

Lie lie barristter

you false jw cannot help but lie, you know very well I never said you "quoted Jesus"
I said you misquoted Jesus, which you did by claiming Jesus said: "ONLY the father is the true God", you did indeed lie lie
when Jesus said: "the only true God"

You twisted and lied about what the Lord Jesus Christ said.

wow, you another way big lie lie

Barristter07:
You have not answered



To help your level of comprehension. I will ask again , this time in a manner u will be able to comprehend.

which of these two statements are scriptural


" For us , there is ONE GOD the Father " - (A)


" For us , there is ONE God, the Father and his son" - B

A or B ?

lie lie barristter

@bold, I did indeed answer but you are now lying in your every post, false jw true colors are easily seen
I was going to say you must stop lying like that, and then of course I realized that's impossible.


I told you lie lie, but you have been blinded and have no comprehension of what I said

Barristter07:
Johnw74



Now that you admit Only means only one . we are a step ahead , I hope you know what only one signifies , single one,who exactly did Jesus recognize as the Only one True God ?





Totally off point , the focus is who exactly is the Only one true God ! not how many persons are in God. Learn to comprehend .

lie lie barristter

@ bold, Jesus said "the only true God", you are lying yet again, this time adding to the Lord Jesus Christ's words
Joh_17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Although God is one, you are again lying - misquoting what Jesus said.

duh lie lie not to smart, and "only" is referring to the one God, there is "only" one God
"only" is not referring to the Father, it's well known there is one Father as there is one begotten Son.

Now I know you think you are clever and you think you are a barrister in a court room
however that does not come across in your posts, the opposite does

Barristter07:
Johnw74



Kindly explain your point in relation to Ephesians 4:6 ?

duh, your own words from your own head say:

Barristter07:
the whole heaven and earth have just one single Father . he is the one God

God's inspired word from God's own head say:

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

And you question it.
However I know that the sect that call themselves jehovah's witnesses pick and choose
what they believe from the Bible.


You say Father is the one God, and you believe it

and when the Bible say's Jesus is the everlasting Father, you don't believe it

You barristter don't believe God's inspired word, you don't believe God.

Barristter07:
Emusan




I smiled reading ur post , you failure to apply the same logic u used in explaining one Lord to one God shows something is fishy.

Only a Lie need the bold to explain something straightforward

Even the non educated among the Ephesians could explain that verse Perfectly well.

" One God and FATHER OF ALL " Eph 4:6


the One God is àlso the Father of All.

the whole heaven and earth have just one single Father . he is the one God

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Barristter07:
Johnw74




Yes @ bold . Jesus refer to the Father as the ONLY true God , do u know the meaning of ONLY ? Do you ? Its time you expose yourself

You not very bright, you better never have to defend yourself in court barristter, ha ha you cannot even spell the word

and don't go lying about what Jesus said again, you claimed He said: "ONLY the Father is the true God"

when what He said was "the only true God"



Jesus said thee (Father) is the only true God.... Only true God means the one true God, as opposed to many god's - false god's.
The verse is not saying the Father is the only person in God.

you lied claiming Jesus said "ONLY the Father is the true God"
giving a diffrent meaning to Jesus statement

and you cannot admit you are wrong and lied about what Jesus said, but you weasel around twisting things and telling us what "only" means ha ha ha, we know God is only one God, and we know the Father and the word is that one God, < Christians do anyway.
false jw use all means of lying known

Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Eternal life is not just knowing the Father, but
eternal life is knowing the Father and the Son
in other words eternal life is knowing God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

lie lie barristter < it should be one "t" not two

Barristter07:
Johnw74




Totally out of the jurisdiction of this discussion, the question is if the Father is the ONLY true God, do u know that adding his son constitute a misuse of the word " ONLY. " ?

ONLY
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and no one or nothing more besides; solely.

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This confirms you are wrong and have misused the word only, Only fits a sole description NOT two , any objection ?






*Laughter* , to evade a vital point , u capitalise your defence on my statement which are not even in quote. oNLY the scriptural verses are in quote , while the emphasis are added by me to clarify that scripture. What a weak defence.

To help your level of comprehension. I will ask again , this time in a manner u will be able to comprehend.

which of these two statements are scriptural


" For us , there is ONE GOD the Father " - (A)


" For us , there is ONE God, the Father and his son" - B

A or B ?

lie lie barristter

duh, you haven't a clue, I already explained but you have been blinded to the truth

so again: "only true god" means there is only one true God

it does not mean only one person in God
and John 1:1 tells us that there is two persons in God

barristter is a strange user name for you
as much as you pretend to talk like you are in a court room as a barrister
you cannot even spell the word, duh, ha ha

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

the Word smites rules and punishes the nations with the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God

the Word's wrath is the wrath of almighty God



the Word is called the Almighty here:

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

It's clear that it's Jesus being spoken of
verse 7 he comes with clouds
and they also which pierced Him

it's Jesus speaking "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending"
John the Revelator added: which is to come the Almighty

a few verses down it is made clear that it's Jesus speaking:

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

andymoorey:
A better rendering puts it this way, Titus 2:13 while we wait for the happy hope+ and glorious manifestation of the great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ, and this is in line with other passages of the Bible,like John 17:3 e.t.c

solite is right, in Titus 2:13 the great God is our Saviour Jesus Christ

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;



Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;


Again the Word (Jesus Christ) is called the great God

And the title "LORD OF LORDS" is further showing that the Word of God is indeed God

solite3:
Another proof of Jesus divinity as God was Paul himself referring to Jesus as our great God and savour in titusv2:13.
Titus 2:13King James Version (KJV)

13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
In this verse Paul explicitly referred to Jesus as our great God and saviour. This totally agreed with John 1:1 and a host of others.

The sect that call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians,
they have changed John 1:1 for instance, in their corrupted book to say: the word was "a God"

God's inspired Bible says: the Word was "God"

false jw believe in a false jesus, a false god, "a god",
a mighty god and a almighty god, two gods

they have a false jesus, they deny the Son, they have not the Father also.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

false jw deny the son saying He is "a god"

Christians acknowledge the Son saying He is "God"

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


false jw is a liar

false jw is antichrist



1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

no man can say Jesus is the Lord "kurios" God, supreme in authority, except by the Holy Ghost

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father


Jesus said about the pharisees (the false religious sect of Jesus day) - who are the false jw religious sect of today:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Barristter07:
johnw74


------ I evidently believe that the last line " So is the Son " is a direct addition by johnw74 and not according to the scriptures .

according to the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ, ONLY the Father is the true God - John 17:3

but according to the diluted teachings of johnw74 , Jesus is wrong , its actually the Father and also his son too !

john, you have a very long way to go.

lie lie barristter

The Lord Jesus Christ is not wrong lie lie barristter, you misquoted the Lord
you add and take away from God's inspired Bible
God said not to add or take away from anything He says:

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

You both add and take away from John 1:1
taking away "God" and adding "a god"


And you have done it here also, twisting and changing what the Lord Jesus said in 17:3
He did not say: "ONLY the Father is the true God"

Jesus said: "the only true God"
Jesus referred to the Father as: "the only true God" which He of course agrees with John 1:1,
the Father being "the only true God" and the Word being "the only true God", two persons and "the only true God"
not two false god's, a almighty god and a mighty god as false jw believe in

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:1 it shows that the Father and the Word is "the only true God", two persons


Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The verse which lie lie barristter twisted, shows that eternal life is in knowing the Father and the Son,
not just the Father, but the Father and the son
In other words for those with eyes to see (Christians), eternal life is in knowing God.

The Lord Jesus referred to the Father as "the only true God", you lie lie barrister twisted that verse to say "ONLY the Father is the true God"

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is not suprising to me that you misquote Jesus like that,
you are the original lie lie,
aren't you lie lie barristter

Barristter07:
johnw74



are you confused or I assume you don't know what you are doing , that you write " ONLY " and decide to smuggle Jesus and another person , His Father into the word "ONLY" not only show you are promoting a false ideology but it further reveal that you hate the truth and you are desperate to promote your lies

lie lie barristter

hey copycat, we have been showing that it's false jw that hates the truth and who is absolutely full of lies,
but you love to lie and falsely accuse, we know that also

and you don't believe the Bible or understand it, John 1:1 shows that Father and the word is God, and we know God is one, they are also seperate persons, but you don't understand any of that neither can you with the spirit that's in you

God is one as you don't know, not two, not a almighty god and a mighty god

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
^^^
that's true of course, and of course you don't believe it.

Barristter07:
------ I evidently believe that the last line " So is the Son " is a direct addition by johnw74 and not according to the scriptures .

according to the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ, ONLY the Father is the true God - John 17:3

but according to the diluted teachings of johnw74 , Jesus is wrong , its actually the Father and also his son too !

john, you have a very long way to go.

yes the Word is God, that's what John 1:1 says and what many scriptures say, which you don't believe, and which you have changed to your peril

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


and again, John 1:1 says the Word is God and again of course you don't believe the Bible, except for your corrupted version of it.

Barristter07:


johnw74 , I want u to answer me - which of these two statement is scriptural.

" For us, there is One God the Father " . composed of one person, the Father (A)

" For Us, there is one God, the Father and his son " composed of two persons, father and son (B)

A or B ?

your "A" statement is wrong, scripture says there is one God the Father, it doesn't say God is composed of one person as your twisted statement
says

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

this verse shows that the Father is the one God, it doesn't show that the Son is not the one God also, Christians know that God is one, in fact Jesus in that verse is called "Lord" which is "kurios", meaning supreme in authority, "God"
and Jesus said:
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

and of course John 1:1 shows that your "B" statement is correct
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

however we know that you won't and cannot understand or believe the truth, you need to have the Truth in you
your elders and witchpower choose which ones you are to believe and not believe.

and many scriptures show that Jesus is God, which I have posted more than once, but you neither know the father or the son or the scriptures, or believe the truth,

but you false jw glory in your lies, that is clear.

goodnews201668:
You think he will give you a straightforward answer? He will come in the night and dodge the post and rather call you names, i wonder the type of person he is.

goodnews201668:
Everybody is waiting for you to quote his post where he said so, you like accusing people and making unnecessary noise. Are you a baby?

Put your dummy back in false jw

More facts people should know about the sect that call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses
and how the organization is entrenched in lies

https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovahs-witnesses-street-preaching.jpg

Read here

dolphinheart:
did I say "a two headed god"? no!

Yes, you did say "a two headed god"

lie lie dolphinheart cannot stop lie lying

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."


And what about this one lie lie, ummm wonder why you never mentioned this again

dolphinheart:
was I talking about God and Jesus when I showed you about your god ? no

Yes lie lie you was talking about God and Jesus

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."


Jesus is the truth and is the exact likeness of His Father God
false jw is a liar and is the exact likeness of his father the devil

Jesus said to the pahrisees:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

dolphinheart:
JOHNW74, IF YOU AT ANYTIME CUT PART OF MY POSTS OFF AGAIN WHEN QUOTING ME SO AS TO PROPA GATE YOUR WARPED WAY OF RESPONDING , I WILL FORCED TO RESPOND IN A CORRECTIONAL MANNER!

pls pls pls, don't cut parts of my post off! don't modify my words and dnt give my words your own warped explanations while removing , omitting , cutting off mine. pls pls pls, for the last time I beg you! stop using those bad traits!

lie lie dolphinheart your lying is making you hysterical

dolphinheart:
did Jesus claim to be god ? no
when he asked his disciples who he is, what did the disciples say? you are son of the living god! they said.

do the Jews believe in Jesus ? no
so it it right to view reaction of the Jews who don't believe in Jesus as the basis for believing that Jesus said he is god? no
did Jesus he and the father are of one nature and essence? no
did Jesus say his disciples will become one with him? Yes
does this mean they will become Jesus? no
did they want to stone Jesus cus he said he was god? no
did they want to stone Jesus cus he indicated he was older and existed before Abraham? Yes
did the Jews think Jesus is less than 50 years old and thus he did not exist before Abraham? Yes

THIS THRUTHS AS STATED ABOVE CANNOT BE REFUTED!

lie lie twister of words dolphinheart, read the article again and this time believe the scriptures given

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Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood.

Very telling isn't it,
along with all the other verses showing that Jesus is God,
only antichrists would not believe those Bible verses.


1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

antichrist jw do not acknowledge the Son, they say he is "a god"
they have not the Father also.

Their god is the father of lies, and doesn't it show

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.

The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

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John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!

Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

Lie lie dolphinheart and false jw captivator,
here is another short article clearly showing that Jesus is God

You false jw's won't believe it, but I like to show how you are nearly always wrong, and for truth seekers and Christians to see it.



Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"

Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).


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CAPTIVATOR:
well, do u agree with the scriptures that the only true God is Jehovah, the Father and God of Jesus Christ ? John 17:3

false jw captivator

The Father is the only true God, so is the Son, they are two persons and one God,

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You don't believe the Bible and change what it says, and so you couldn't possibly understand
you hate the truth and so God has allowed satan to blind you, and doesn't it show

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Christ is the image of the Father, exactly the same, and false jw blaspheme Christ who died for our sins calling Him "a god"
"a god" died for the sins of the World say antichrist jw

CAPTIVATOR:
if the translators are right to insert " a god " @ Act 28:6, then u have no point anymore ! that means there is nothing wrong with the translation " a god " . neither Jesus nor Paul is the Most High God .

brocab is right and you haven't a clue

If the Word is "a god"
then wouldn't you have to be a bit on the moronic side to say

in the beginning was the Word (a god) and the word (a god) was with God and the Word (a god) was a God

a god was a god, duh lie lie captivator, you wrong
in the beginning a god was with God, duh lie lie captivator, you wrong

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:1 tells us that the Word is God
Gen 1:1 tells us that God created the Heavens and the Earth
John 1:3 tells us that it is the Word that created everything

false jw captivator as good as say's: No the Bible lies, "a god" is the word, "a god" created all there is

captivator is a big lie lie

dolphinheart:
pls for everyone:

pls everyone

lie lie dolphinheart

you are concerned about everyone's view of you

you do not want everyone to see you as the liar that you are
because you are a deceiver, a wolf in sheeps clothing

but it's to late lie lie, your disguise was exposed long ago
your lies are so obvious, but take heart your fellow false jw captivator supports you in your lies


when satan speaks a lie he is speaking naturally
so to his followers-children-disciples

lie lie dolphinheart

The same repeated lies time and time again, repeating again which was already replied to,
and you say I'm desperately trying to do this and that, ha ha just listen to yourself oh desperate one.

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed again that you did not say "a two headed god"

here is your sentence in full once more:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you false jw said I added and removed and misquoted your sentence, when it is truly a copy and paste of your sentence as you know

lie lie dolphinheart is exactly like the father of lies
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is clear you lie lie was referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god" and when I asked you who you were referring to if not God and the Word as "a two headed god" you would not answer

You said yet once again that you were not referring to God and Jesus
here it is yet once again what you said again lie lie
dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

But you were lie lying again, speaking naturally

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

you lie lie called that scripture false.


you a very big lie lie and deceiver false jw dolphinheart
even calling God's inspired scripture false

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you never said "a two headed god"

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you was not referring to Jesus and God.

such a huge huge lie lie dolphinheart

CAPTIVATOR:
Lolzzzzzzzz @ bold , who is the Only true God ?

read this again
Jesus called Father God
and this time believe the scriptures given.

CAPTIVATOR:
oga, your problem is " a god " right ? kindly check Act 28:6 , and prove a god in that verse is a wrong translation. then we can discuss , till then you are just making noise .

lie lie false jw captivator, your problem is "a god"
you took "God" out of John 1:1 and put in "a god"

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.



with your changes to john 1:1 it would read like this
in the beginning was "a god" and "a god" was with God and "a god" was "a god"
common sense alone tells one that yours is a corrupted translation

whereas God's inspired text is perfect:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

your satan inspired changes to the Bible are pathetic

and again you don't believe God when He said your name will be taken out of the Book of life for doing such things

lie lie captivator

CAPTIVATOR:
God in what sense pls ? MOST HIGH ?. Because the same scripture refer to humans , Satan as God too.

solite has already explained but false jw love to lie and repeat their lies

There is only one true God, God and the Word is God as scripture shows

"humans"
and your "satan"
and your "a god"
and your "an angel"
and your two god's "an almighty god" who is your false jehovah, and a "mighty god" who is your false jesus.
are all false god's

There is one true God, not two or many

CAPTIVATOR:
ur human thinking is that Jesus and his father are same God , and the scripture proves that false when it said The Father is the God of Jesus . simple and clear point showing they are not the same God as u proposed . so adjust

I have posted many scriptures on these things and on your other false doctrines as well, which satans disciples of course did not believe


about Jesus calling Father God read at link below, also there's much more on it if you really want to know which you don't,
but I post for the benefit of those who do want to know.

Jesus called Father God

CAPTIVATOR:
Scripture that said Jesus and his Father are " ONE GOD " ?

* the Father is the God of Jesus ! anytime, anyday . this won't be possible if they are the same God. comprehend ?

solite told you that John 1:1 tells of God and the Word being God, your elders changed your Bible to sat the Word was "a god"
and you would obviously believe anything that's not the truth to support the false doctrines that they also taught you,
you are the one who cannot comprehend, false jw have this in common, they love to lie.

You have come to this thread to disrupt and take the spotlight of lie lie dolphinheart who is so entrenched in his lies that
he doesn't even know what he is saying now most of the time, that's what satan does to his followers, he is not your friend.

false jw lie so much and they support each other in their lies.

CAPTIVATOR:
you are scared of been exposed , again I ask : who is the only true God ?

duh, I told you, God and the Word, and like other false jw you cannot see it, false jw are blinded by satan
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

CAPTIVATOR:
haba, simple scriptural analysis . the scripture itself proves u lied when it said THE FATHER is the God of Jesus . thus proving they are. not the same God .

God is one
Jesus is one with the Father, they are two persons one God, but satans disciples cannot possibly see or understand, as you keep showing.

Truly God and the Word is God, but you don't believe the Bible and change it,
you say I lied, but you in fact said the Bible is lies, because that's where I get my beliefs, here it is again that say's the Word is God,
and which satans disciples say is a lie:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

all false jw can do is lie, and change the Bible to fit their false doctrines.


Jesus said to the pahrisees, and of course it applies to todays pharasee jw's:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

dolphinheart:
I've proven beyond reasonable doubt that I did not say "a two headed god"

you say you never said "a two headed god"
Here is your full sentence, quoted exactly, copied and pasted from your post with nothing taken out and nothing added

Dolphinheart:

it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

what a lie lie you are.

dolphinheart:
he has not been able to produce where I said "god and the word is a two headed god"

aah, but I did, in my last post to you just for one, I will quote it again at the end of this.

dolphinheart:
why can't you post the full text of my posts, ? WHYYYYYYY!

because I'm noy interisted in your false doctrine about Jesus being "a god" "an angel"
I have told you and captivator that many times, but false jw loves to lie.

dolphinheart:
was I talking about God and jesus when I told you about your god ? no ,

Yes you was lie lie, you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
You just said we should look at my own exact words , but the bolded above are not from me, they are words added at the beginning and middle of my words to try and give my own words a different direction and meaning. The tactic will not work johnw74,

No end to your lies and deceiving, if you cannot see the diffrence there between your words in "these" and my words, you just show again how you have been blinded.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

dolphinheart:
I will tell you this once you retract your false accusation, this is what you should have done first before accusing me falsely and before altering, omitING and adding to my words.

No lie lie I haven't done any of that to your quote, you are talking about yourself again,
and you have been blinded and cannot see where your quote ends and my words begin.

I posted your quote of what you said, showing it's clear that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god". I even asked you to tell who you was referring to as "a two headed god" if you were not referring to God and the Word, and even to that simple question you cannot answer who you were referring to, because we all know, don't we lie lie.

dolphinheart you big lie lie

johnw74:
To all of false jw dolphinhearts above confusion and continued and repeated twisting of words which is lies,
and to the lengthy posts designed to get away from the simple matter at hand, and that is that false jw dolphinheart called God and the Word "a two headed god".

lie lie is playing on words, which is lying, he uses every means of lying known,
he said he didn't say God and the Word is a two headed god, while using words that mean the same thing,
it's just another way of lying,
so lets use his exact words.


The opening post was about John 1:1, and God and the Word, and the Word being God

You lie lie dolphinheart said:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You are talking off "God and Jesus",

and you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God"

as John 1:1 makes Jesus to be that same God, and as the opening post is about

"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



Of course it's very clear to all except those entrenched in lies, that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god", but twist your words some more lie lie, and tell me who you are calling "a two headed god" if not the Word being that same God, if not Jesus being that same God.

Who was you referring to as "a two headed god" if not God and the Word?

Truth doesn't require a long and evasive post,
just a honest answer, like:

I was referring to "God and the Word" being a two headed God
or
I was referring to "Tom and Jerry" being a two headed god.