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solite3:
Jesus' church is not of this world

goodnews201668:
lairs

amazing,

solite is right, Jesus' Church is not of this world,

Joh_17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

and all false jw gooknews and jozzy and other jw's can do is call everyone liars, while it's they themselves and other false jw's who lie all over the place.

goodnews201668:
Lair

That's funny, false jw gooknews calling solite a liar.

goodnews201668:
you are just a clown, you have light. then tell us your church or ministry, only then will you be taken serious.
you are no better than atheist, they tell you who they are!

Why would brocab give false jw gooknews his pearls for
false jw gooknews to trample under his feet.

goodnews201668:
are you sound upstairs? always double posting!

Lie Lie gooknews


Your double posting was saying the same thing twice in the one post,

but false jw gooknews loves to lie.

solite3:
well said broda they will always hide from these truths because it will expose their lies, false witnesses love darkness rather than light so that their evil works will not be exposed.

Acts 5:3-4 shows that the Holy Spirit is not only a person, but is God,
antichrist jw won't believe it though.

Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Of course we know false jw is a liar, these verses speak of them:

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also

antichrist false jw denies Jesus, saying He is "a god" "an angel", and dolphinheart saying the Father and the Son _ God and the Word, is "a two headed god".
antichrist false jw denies the Father by not believing the Bible, and by not keeping His commandments,
for one thing calling out liar where there is no lie (shalt not bear false witness)

funny how those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses are continually bearing false witness.

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Says a lot, doesn't it, no man can say Jesus is the Lord (kurios - God) but by the Holy Spirit.

More Bible verses that false jw don't believe saying the Holy Spirit is not a person but an "it":



Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Jozzy4:
haaaaaa where is the bold written in the bible ? i need u to show me where thomas said so to JESUS when JESUS was baptized


barristter07 , dolphinheart , jessicha ... keep your eyes on this liar

Lie Lie jozzy

is wrong in every post, he lies and he falsely accuses.
The lies and false accusations shows the spirit that dwells in false jw's

Score:

false jw lies = uncountable (there are to many)

johnw74 lies =0

1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

The Holy Spirit gives gifts to people as He will,
the Holy Spirit is not only called He, but He has a will,
He is more than a "it" or a thing or a power, wouldn't you say.

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.


and grievous wolves are at work today preaching a false god, saying things like:
Jesus is "a god"
Jesus is "an angel"
the Holy Spirit is an "it"
God and the Word is "a two headed god"
disobeying the commandments, and so denying Father God.

The Church are people of faith in Jesus Christ, some are in the Christian denomination Churches, and some don't belong to a denominational Church, but belong just to The Church - God's Church:

1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

^^^
Me too

Bible verses that show the Holy Spirit is a person, and which false jw don't believe, saying the Holy Spirit is not a person but is an "it",
even though very simple examples were given showing how "it" can refer to any person, even to Father God.
Even if examples were not given, Christians can easily see from the many other scriptures, that the Holy Spirit is indeed a person, the person of God in fact, but that's way to much for satans disciples:

The Holy Spirit searches, the Holy Spirit is God:
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

^^^
God is Spirit, the Spirit of God (the Holy Spirit), is God.


The Holy Spirit teaches:
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The Holy Spirit can be grieved, the Holy Spirit has sealed believers:
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.


The Holy Spirit can think things are good:
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

The Holy Spirit chooses to give gifts to some:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

The Holy Spirit directs activities to Christians, the Holy Spirit forbids, the Holy Spirit let (suffered) them not:
Act 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
Act 16:7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
Act 16:8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
Act 16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
Act 16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
Act 16:11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis;

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Spirit sent the three men to Peter, the Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
Act 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Ghost gives Barnabas and Saul work to do, The Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

The Holy Spirit talks, The Holy Spirit's voice is called "His" voice:
Heb 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

The Holy Spirit talks:
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

The Holy Spirit talks, the Holy Spirit is called "He", the Holy Spirit guides and shows you things to come:
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus, and is called "He":
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The Holy Spirit gives us words to speak in times of need:
Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Spirit can be lied to, the Holy Spirit is God:
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
^^^
They lied to the Holy Ghost - to God.

Jozzy4:
it lacks sense to bring an imaginary occurence to prove a point . gerrout

in other words, you cant find where " it" is used for the Father, that u have to used your head

that shows ur point is meaningless, holy spirit is called " it" , so once again is IT used for a person ?

bull, false jw couldn't understand a simple example,
but it's more than just not understanding, false jw hates the truth
because it goes against false jw satanic doctrines.

false accuser liar jw jozzy doesn't believe a plethora of scriptures showing that the Holy Spirit is a person, and clings to verses which he doesn't understand to support his satanic doctrines.

The Holy Spirit: searches, teaches, can be grieved, seals, thinks, chooses, directs, forbids, lets,
preaches, speaks, sends, calls, gives work to do, calls Himself I, talks, is called "He",
guides, shows, glorifies, gives

an "it" - a thing, cannot do any of those, they are attributes of an intelligent being.
And all false accuser, liar, false jw jozzy can say in the face of all those scriptures is: "is IT used for a person ?"

Duh




it's amazing to see how all false jw's deceive, twist, and lie non stop, just like their pharacee fore fathers.
and just as the Bible shows they would:

2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,


I know false jw jozzy doesn't, and cannot, understand things of God, but I like to show others how false jw lie and falsely accuse all over the place, and to see just which spirit is in them.

Barristter07:
johnw74




in this kind of discussion, using imaginary occurencies only prove you are pointless, now answer jozzy4 question if u get mind , IS IT used for a person ?

Lie Lie barristter

is as pathetic as false accuser jw jozzy, they ignore the plethora of scriptures showing that the Holy Spirit is a person
and cling to one which they don't understand.

they disbelieve the verses posted so as to support their satanic doctrines.

goodnews201668:
Another example!

Lying comes naturally to false jw

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4:
haaaaaa where is the bold written in the bible ? i need u to show me where thomas said so to JESUS when JESUS was baptized


barristter07 , dolphinheart , jessicha ... keep your eyes on this liar

Lie Lie jozzy

You keep calling liar where there is no lie, but that's just you taking after your god, while lying yourself.

Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night

The words "an imaginery occurence" means it's not real,
it's just giving an example.

I have to keep saying that you have no understanding at all,
and you keep showing it to be true.

johnw74:
You are wrong yet again false jw, here is an imaginery occurence to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for anyone including Father God:

When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
Thomas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.
However the Father God is not a "it" a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

You are wrong in every single post to me in this thread, have a look bach through them, you don't believe the Bible scriptures posted, and you call others who post and believe the scriptures, liars.

Are there people more evil than that in the world

^^^
@blue, And you once again show all of that to be true.

goodnews201668:
Another double post.

That was no double post from me, but lying comes naturally to false jw

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

goodnews201668:
The question should be directed to you, you re the father of double post.

all false jw can do is lie
show where I keep posting the same thing twice in the same post, as you do

goodnews201668:
You are just a baby like i said.

;DYou are just a baby like i said.

What's with all the double posts?

Are you alright upstairs?

goodnews201668:


a baby like you

goodnews201668:


first grade!

^^^
There is the very best of false jw gooknews

false jw don't believe the Bible and attempt to mock those who do, and who present their views with scriptures.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

goodnews201668:
So the holy spirit is now the father?
First grade like i said

Mat 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


Jesus shows that the Holy Spirit in His Apostles is the Spirit of His Father

goodnews201668:
;DConfused baby, very soon you will say that the holy spirit is now the father

Of course the Holy Spirit is God - God and the Word, who else could this verse be referring to:

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

goodnews201668:
;DConfused baby, very soon you will say that the holy spirit is now the father

Of course the Holy Spirit is God

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

goodnews201668:
This your style is getting stale.

The truth is stale to false jw, that's why they don't eat of it.

johnw74:
What are you talking about, false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

false jw has a false jesus
false jw has a false bible
false jw doesn't know that "THE" "HOLY" "SPIRIT" is God.
everything about false jw is false

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

ummm, better beware of these "it's" and things.

goodnews201668:
You are the one creating that impression, bible doesn't teach that Jesus is Jehovah. That's a lie, Jehovah's the father! Thank God you at least agreed Jesus is not the father, that's why you are confused sorry but its the fact

false accuser,
like I said, talk about confusion, you are full of it

again:
Jehovah means God, Jehovah doesn't mean Father.

H3068

יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


And Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1, although false jw cannot possibly understand God's truths,
and false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

solite3:
very good so believing the bible is a false belief. Have I ever said Jesus is the father? Like I said earlier why will you not prefer non Christian belief? Yes the father is greater in position but Jesus is fully God himself.

goodnews201668:
Your beliefs are false not the bible's teachings.

What are you talking about, false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

false jw has a false jesus
false jw has a false bible
false jw doesn't know that "THE" "HOLY" "SPIRIT" is God.
everything about false jw is false

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

ummm, better beware of these "it's" and things.

goodnews201668:
Is Jehovah no longer the father?

I wrote that: "Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1"
and that: "Father and Son are two persons, one God"

but false jw loves to lie, it comes naturally to you.

goodnews201668:
So Jesus is also Jehovah?
Keep wallowing in confusion

Father and Son are two persons, one God.
Jehovah is God
God and the Word is God

talk about your confusion

You disbelieve all the bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah
if you don't want to go back and look at them, just ask and I will post them again.

and keep wallowing in your unbelief of the Bible.

johnw74:
solite said Jesus is God Jehovah,

solite did not say Jesus is the Father,

but false jw loves to lie and twist things around.

Jehovah is a name for "God" not a name for "Father"

And Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1

Father and Son are two persons, one God.

Go back and look at all the Bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, that Jesus is God,
and then disbelieve all those scriptures like false jw do.

goodnews201668:
See what false beliefs have done to you, Jesus is now the father to you. Na woo, even non Christians knows Jesus has a father and he is greater than him in position, continue

solite said Jesus is God Jehovah,

solite did not say Jesus is the Father,

but false jw loves to lie and twist things around.

Jehovah is a name for "God" not a name for "Father"

And Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1

Father and Son are two persons, one God.

Go back and look at all the Bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, that Jesus is God,
and then disbelieve all those scriptures like false jw do.

Jozzy4:
let me open ur thinking faculty bro , the FATHER IS A SPIRIT AND HE IS NEVER CALLED AN IT again can THE pronoun it be used for a person ?

You are wrong yet again false jw, here is an imaginery occurence to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for anyone including Father God:

When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
Thomas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.
However the Father God is not a "it" a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

You are wrong in every single post to me in this thread, have a look bach through them, you don't believe the Bible scriptures posted, and you call others who post and believe the scriptures, liars.

Are there people more evil than that in the world

Jozzy4:
there is one GOD, THE FATHER ...... NOT TRINITY . shame on you liars

Lie Lie jozzy

false jw - false accuser

There is one God the Father.

The liar are those who don't believe the plethora of bible scriptures posted.

johnw74:
False jw jozzy, there is only one God the Father, and you left out the rest of the verse that shows that the Father and Jesus Christ are two persons in the one God, that of whom and by whom are all things:

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Also:

the Father (theos) means: a diety, especially the supreme Divinity, God

one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios) means: supreme in authority, God

some will also know that there are many lord's,
but Jesus there is called "one" Lord Jesus Christ


Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Or it could be said:
One God, one faith, one baptism, Lord and God in these verses both = God

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


There is the father (theos God)

There is one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios God)




Lie Lie jozzy

brocab:
Then you are not reading the scriptures-nor are you listening, when Jesus made His remark by saying I and the Father are One, the Jews picked up stones to stone Him, "why" you asked, because the Jews heard Him say I and the Father are One. Meaning Jesus was telling them He and His Father are one the same God..This is why they wanted to stone Him.
And Jesus is proven to be without sin, so this proves Jesus wasn't lying when He said I and the Father are One {John 10:30}
{John 17:21} That they all maybe one; as you, Father are in Me, and I in You, that they also be One in us, that the world may believe the world had sent Me.

Many verses have been posted showing that the Word - Jesus is God,
and false jw don't believe them.

But unless false jw sees an exact verse where Jesus say's "I am God" they won't believe,
the truth is they wouldn't believe even if there was an exact verse where Jesus said "I am God",
they would twist it and have Jesus saying "I am a god"