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[size=14pt]Are Jehovah Witnesses Christian?[/size] The Jehovah's Witnesses were founded in 1874 by Russell, who was a 33rd degree Freemason. The Mormon religion was founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith, also a 33rd degree Freemason. Scientology was founded by Ron Hubbard, a 33rd degree Freemason and devout follower of Satanist, Aleister Crowley. [url=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw-exposed.htm]Click for more[/url] |
Those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses, but are not and do lie and are the church of satan, preach that Jesus-the Word is not God Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. God and the Word is God John 1:1 God is a Spirit John 4:24 = God and the word is the Spirit of God Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. |
dolphinheart:@bold just above, you lie lie dolphinheart cannot see or believe the truth as there is no truth in you truly again, I'm not to interested in your debate as I said, and as you cannot possibly believe truth ![]() of course Jesus was right about pharisee jw: Joh_8:44 Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. johnw74: |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart it's impossible for you not to lie and falsely accuse dolphinheart:my one post in a debate of many posts fits into my statement of: "not to interested" but you love to lie dolphinheart:ha ha repeating your lies is what you do most, and there is more of them you lie lie dolphinheart called god "a two headed god" dolphinheart: it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!. lie lie dolphinheart The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians, that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie |
dolphinheart:you have no discernment to tell the difference dolphinheart:I didn't think you thought that highly off me dolphinheart:duh, a joke and someone stealing from you are quite different |
Jessicha:Pro 26:17 He who passes by enraging himself over strife not his own is like one who takes a dog by the ears, Pro 26:18 or like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death. Pro 26:19 so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, Am I not joking? you should have posted the before verse but that would have been honest and you wouldn't have been able to accuse of being mad bro was not about strife but was having fun, and I was not enraged at his having fun however you sound enraged and mad and satan like you has no sense of humour also me think you being hysterical |
false jw say the Holy Spirit is not God 'Grieve Not the Holy Spirit' By Charles H. Spurgeon 'Grieve not the Holy Spirit.'Ephesians 4:30 All that the believer has must come from Christ, but it comes solely through the channel of the Spirit of grace. Moreover, as all blessings thus flow to you through the Holy Spirit, so also no good thing can come out of you in holy thought, devout worship, or gracious act, apart from the sanctifying operation of the same Spirit. Even if the good seed be sown in you, yet it lies dormant except He worketh in you to will and to do of His own good pleasure. Do you desire to speak for Jesus-how can you unless the Holy Ghost touch your tongue? Do you desire to pray? Alas! what dull work it is unless the Spirit maketh intercession for you! Do you desire to subdue sin? Would you be holy? Would you imitate your Master? Do you desire to rise to superlative heights of spirituality? Are you wanting to be made like the angels of God, full of zeal and ardour for the Master's cause? You cannot without the Spirit-'Without me ye can do nothing.' O branch of the vine, thou canst have no fruit without the sap! O child of God, thou hast no life within thee apart from the life which God gives thee through His Spirit! Then let us not grieve Him or provoke Him to anger by our sin. Let us not quench Him in one of His faintest motions in our soul; let us foster every suggestion, and be ready to obey every prompting. If the Holy Spirit be indeed so mighty, let us attempt nothing without Him; let us begin no project, and carry on no enterprise, and conclude no transaction, without imploring His blessing. Let us do Him the due homage of feeling our entire weakness apart from Him, and then depending alone upon Him, having this for our prayer, 'Open Thou my heart and my whole being to Thine incoming, and uphold me with Thy free Spirit when I shall have received that Spirit in my inward parts.' |
false jw claim to be Christian, yet they say Jesus Christ is "a god" "a god" died for the sins of the World "a god' gave us Salvation through "a god" we are saved, we are saved through having faith in "a god" However we Christians are saved through having faith in God there is only one true God "a god" and all other god's are false god's. false jw write John 1:1 as: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god false jw have God in the beginning with a false god, a false god created all that exists a false god is the image of God etc. |
dolphinheart:I'm not to interisted in your hell- spirit body-flesh body debate else I would be in it with many scriptures but you are just getting away from answering my post on your blaspheming it's here: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/110#48043376 |
dolphinheart:more false accusations from phony jw accusing of forgery where humour was given, for one fancy lie lie dolphinheart accusing of lying ![]() |
dolphinheart:of course satan has no sense of humour either like you false jw he is the great accuser. |
Jozzy4:how they love to play with words - lie but it is ingrained in them |
Barristter07:lie lie barristter you also have no comprehension bro was being humorous which false jw don't seem to understand but love to lie and make a big deal out of their own false accusations |
gmaribel:It is known by him that Jesus is the Son of God, your accusation is false You don't understand how Jesus can be the Son of God and can be God God, is God and the Word John 1:1 there are many Bible verses showing Jesus to be God saying Jesus is not God as you do, is being an antichrist. |
Jessicha:duh, he is referring to the future event, non comprehension seems to run through all false jw's |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart Ha ha, your lies are never ending, oh desperate one dolphinheart:@bold, You are deluded, "the world" is not reading this more lie lies, I have told you that I'm not interisted in your false doctrine post about the Word being "a god" I told you that I'm only interested in where you blasphemed God. Of course there is nothing stopping you from posting your full post here, the reason you don't is because there is nothing in it that shows you were not blaspheming. You want to discuss all your false doctrine in your post to get away from your blasphemy, however I won't allow you to do that lie lie. dolphinheart:more lie lies, I did reply to your post as I have told you many times, if you didn't like my reply, that's to bad for you, stop crying and lying, ha ha, as if you could @bold, "the world" ![]() dolphinheart:more lie lies, truly your words were copied and pasted, as you know dolphinheart:more lie lies, Jesus is the Word, you called God and Jesus - the Word "a two headed god" dolphinheart:more lie lies, God and the Word is God John 1:1, you called God "a two headed God" dolphinheart:more lie lies, I'm not avoiding the part where you say "your god is two persons in one, a two headed god" and never have, but you false jw cannot help but lie. Yes it's my God you called "a two headed god", my God, the God of John 1:1, my God, God and the Word who you called "a two headed god". You unwittingly again confirmed your blasphemy. lie lie dolphinheart you continually twist words - lie, to avoid the truth you twist and lie to cover up more lies, it's an ongoing thing, liars are not very good at it you know, but you have been blinded to that: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians, that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie |
Jessicha:Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. John described the Spirit body of the Angel of the Lord: white head and hair, eyes as a flame of fire, feet like fine brass, his tongue also would have been spirit, perhaps you think it would have been flesh and blood @jessicha, dolphinheart, jozzy4: Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. |
Ignatius who was a student of the Apostle John said: "Our God Jesus Christ, indeed, has revealed himself more clearly by returning to the Father. The greatness of Christianity lies in its being hated by the world, not in its being convincing to it." And of course it's true and can be seen even here where Christians are hated by false jw - the world and of course false jw cannot be convinced of Christianity, they even teach that Christ is "a god", "an angel" Heb_1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Father called Jesus "God", the Bible also informs us there is only one True God, not two a almighty and a mighty god, so false jw believe Jesus is a false god Heb_1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Father said them things to Jesus, but He never said them to an angel, just as He said so false jw don't believe Father Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, The truth is everywhere so is false jw lies Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Rom_2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Rom_2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Christians will one day be caught up to our Lord while others will go through the Lord's wrath for their lies and blasphemy etc. against Him |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart what a phony dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!." Ha ha phony, they are exactly the same, when you lied - denied saying it, I quoted your whole sentence showing that you did indeed say it and this one: " dolphinheart said that god and the word" is a two headed god" is true, your sentence above is saying that God and the Word is "a two headed god", your lying and twisting of words doesn't change that at all Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. the OP was about John 1:1 and the Word being God lie lie dolphinheart referred to the God of John 1:1 as being "a two headed god" dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." God and the Word is God, dolphinheart called God, "a two headed god' you way heap big lie lie dolphinheart, and worse, you blaspheme God |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart you know as well as I that your quoted statement has not been modified, no parts of your full sentence has been cut off, modified, removed , or adjusted, as you know you just cannot help but lie lie post after post dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart:your sentence was left exactly the way it was, oh dubious one dolphinheart:no part of your post has been modified giving a diffrent understanding and explanations, here it is again exactly the way you wrote it, isn't that so lie lie dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." dolphinheart:lie lie I rightly accused you and continue to, and modified nothing in your sentence, your sentence has not once been modified, I have explained your sentence although it doesn't need explaining it's very clear that you referred to God and the Word as "a two headed god" lie lie dolphinheart: "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!." Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John showed that God and the Word was "God" lie lie dolphinheart referred to God and the Word as in John 1"1 as "a two headed god" you just a way big lie lie lie lie dolphinheart your near every word is a lie Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Jozzy4: dolphinheart:lie lie jozzy and lie lie dolphinheart cannot comprehend so they call out liar fancy lie lie false jw's calling out liar |
Jozzy4:now, now, I know you hate the truth, it upsets you but that's your problem johnw74: |
The Bible shows that Jesus is the Son of God the Bible also shows that Jesus is God, with even the Father calling Jesus God. You can believe the Bible is true, and so believe even the verses that you don't understand or you can not believe the Bible which many do by not believing what is said there, and changing it. As for Christians they believe through faith, even though some don't fully understand how Jesus is the Son of God and God non believers cannot possibly even begin to understand, without God in them. If you think the Holy Spirit is just God's power, then of course He is not in you. |
brocab: Jozzy4:Bro, as you can see false jw jozzy doesn't comprehend anything that is said, either that or he twists things around because he has no answer, which is dishonest - lying, which he does often, and which is another jw trait. As you know he doesn't understand the Bible either, and using a corrupted Bible and being told what to believe just makes it doubly worse. Some say they are not jw, but if they believe false jw teachings then they are false jw and do lie. If they follow satans teachings then they are satans disciples. |
Jehovah’s witnesses are very strongly cultic in both doctrine and behaviour, thus fitting both categories of false doctrine and mind control. They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching. They claim you need to read the Watchtower’s magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don’t read the Watchtower’s books, you will “fall into darkness” – what they call reverting to normal Christianity. They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times. They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died. Click for more |
rodDICK:a cult can be many things, for one, a group of people who follow other people and believes false prophecies etc, are a cult Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. |
Mat_1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Jesus Christ sprung from Mary and the Holy Spirit - God is His Father |
.................... We should expect Satan, the adversary of God and the father of lies, to advance many variants of the person of Jesus Christ. Satan would want all the false views to succeed in some measure to lead people away from the true Jesus. One may recall the temptations of Jesus by Satan in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1–11). The great deceiver even attempted to use Scripture to trick Jesus into sinning (Matthew 4:6). The tactic of the serpent in the garden was to deceive the woman by distorting the plain meaning of the Word of God (Genesis 3:1–6). Satan, through the serpent, quoted the words of God and abused their meaning. We must be aware of the devil’s devices (1 Corinthians 2:11)..................... Conclusion The reality is that John 1:1–3 clearly reveals the deity of Jesus Christ, the Word, being the Creator God. As such it confirms many other passages in Scripture that teach that Christ is God. Early church fathers such as Ignatius, who was a disciple of John the Apostle, also recognized Jesus as God. The significance of this is a matter of salvation. Without the true Jesus, can one really be saved? Click for more |
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Father let's us know that Jesus is indeed God, by calling Him that Father also let's us know that He is the God of Jesus by saying so Father said the Son is God, as John also says: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. the Son is God, the Son's God is His Father |
"From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude . . . They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago . . . " (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981, p. 29). (See the quote in context.)by Matt Slick The Watchtower says that the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the physical resurrection of Christ are all false doctrines. Yet, the Watchtower says that if you read the Bible by itself, you will end up believing these doctrines. In other words, if you read the Bible by itself, then you will become a Trinitarian--believe that Jesus is God and believe that Jesus rose from the dead physically. Why is that? Could it be because the Bible teaches these things? So I ask the Jehovah's Witnesses, what is it in the Bible that would lead someone to this conclusion? Again, what is in the Bible that reading it by itself would lead you to believe in the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and His physical resurrection? This quote from the Watchtower is proof that it is teaching contrary to the natural reading of the Bible and that it is controlling the beliefs of those who follow it. Click for more |
More about the sect who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses: Watchtower quotes prior to 1914 Russell taught that Jesus invisible rulership began in 1874. "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from Apr 1878, A.D." Studies in Scriptures Series IV (1897) p.621 As shown at DaVinci Code, Russell used pyramidology to support this belief. https://www.jwfacts.com/images/1914-pyramid-chart.jpg 1874 to 1914 was described as the greatest time of trouble in human history, with 1914 to be the conclusion of the Last Days. Armageddon would begin, resulting in the wholesale destruction of all government and religion. Russell and his followers were to be raised to heaven and Jesus Kingdom would then be established as paradise on earth. Click for more here and then here |
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