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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:08am On Aug 02, 2016
[size=14pt]Are Jehovah Witnesses Christian?[/size]

The Jehovah's Witnesses were founded in 1874 by Russell, who was a 33rd degree Freemason. The Mormon religion was founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith, also a 33rd degree Freemason. Scientology was founded by Ron Hubbard, a 33rd degree Freemason and devout follower of Satanist, Aleister Crowley.

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:20am On Aug 02, 2016
Those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses, but are not and do lie
and are the church of satan, preach that Jesus-the Word is not God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



God and the Word is God John 1:1
God is a Spirit John 4:24
= God and the word is the Spirit of God

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:05pm On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
READERS PLS NOTE.
This verses where quoted by John74
johnw74 :
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

johnw74 now said:
"John described the Spirit body of the Angel of the Lord:
white head and hair, eyes as a flame of fire, feet like fine brass,
his tongue also would have been spirit, perhaps you think it would have been flesh and blood
@jessicha, dolphinheart, jozzy4:
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts."

I ASKED THE QUESTION AND I SPECIFIED WHO THE QUESTION IS BEING DIRECTED TO
@ solite3, look at the bolded, do you believe spirits have bodies?
@ solite3, do you believe humans have this kind of body after they die?
@ Johnw74, this body that you say the angel has, is it the same as the one the rich man has in hell?
@johnw74, (concerning second bolded above )look at brocabs own words posted about the flesh and hell.
11:27pm, June 17, page 96 of these thread, brocab said thus :
" His flesh would end up in hell, where you flesh is heading"
so do you believe brocab, do you believe flesh goes to hell?

PLS CAN YOU NOTICE THEY ARE GIVING EXCUSES, REFUSING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION!
@bold just above, you lie lie dolphinheart cannot see or believe the truth as there is no truth in you
truly again, I'm not to interested in your debate as I said, and as you cannot possibly believe truth smiley

of course Jesus was right about pharisee jw:
Joh_8:44 Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


johnw74:
I'm not to interisted in your hell- spirit body-flesh body debate
else I would be in it with many scriptures

but you are just getting away from answering my post on your blaspheming

it's here: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/110#48043376
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:53am On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
how can you be interested!
when truth is shown to you, you become not interested
lie lie dolphinheart

it's impossible for you not to lie and falsely accuse

dolphinheart:
you commented on the issue, but when questions that will expose you is being brought out, your interest dissapears!
my one post in a debate of many posts fits into my statement of: "not to interested"
but you love to lie

dolphinheart:
there was nothing to reply to
1. you could not post the full text of my post
2. you could not comment on "your god is two persons in one"
3. you could not show where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you posted
4. on John 1:1, you could not respond to my post constructively when I talked about that verse, so why should I repeat myself!.
ha ha repeating your lies is what you do most, and there is more of them

you lie lie dolphinheart called god "a two headed god"

dolphinheart:
it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.


lie lie dolphinheart


The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:19am On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
wait till forgery is committed in your name, and you are told it's only homour.
you have no discernment to tell the difference

dolphinheart:
lawyer John,
I didn't think you thought that highly off me


dolphinheart:
your excuse is like catching a thief stealing your property and he says he is only playing with you!
duh, a joke and someone stealing from you are quite different
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:09am On Aug 01, 2016
Jessicha:
@ bold , are you okay at all , I don't think so. someone played a trick with me and you called that an humor ! do u think this kind of thing is a joking matter


Proverb 26 describe you as a °Madman°

"

18 Like a madman who shoots fiery missiles, arrows, and death 19 Is the man who plays a trick on his neighbor and says, “I was only joking!”

Pro 26:17 He who passes by enraging himself over strife not his own is like one who takes a dog by the ears,
Pro 26:18 or like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death.
Pro 26:19 so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, Am I not joking?

you should have posted the before verse but that would have been honest
and you wouldn't have been able to accuse of being mad
bro was not about strife but was having fun, and I was not enraged at his having fun
however you sound enraged and mad
and satan like you has no sense of humour also

me think you being hysterical
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 7:15am On Aug 01, 2016
false jw say the Holy Spirit is not God



'Grieve Not the Holy Spirit'

By Charles H. Spurgeon

'Grieve not the Holy Spirit.'­Ephesians 4:30

All that the believer has must come from Christ, but it comes solely through the channel of
the Spirit of grace. Moreover, as all blessings thus flow to you through the Holy Spirit, so also no
good thing can come out of you in holy thought, devout worship, or gracious act, apart from the
sanctifying operation of the same Spirit. Even if the good seed be sown in you, yet it lies
dormant except He worketh in you to will and to do of His own good pleasure.

Do you desire to speak for Jesus­-how can you unless the Holy Ghost touch your tongue?
Do you desire to pray? Alas! what dull work it is unless the Spirit maketh intercession for you!
Do you desire to subdue sin? Would you be holy? Would you imitate your Master? Do you
desire to rise to superlative heights of spirituality? Are you wanting to be made like the angels of
God, full of zeal and ardour for the Master's cause?

You cannot without the Spirit-­'Without me ye can do nothing.' O branch of the vine, thou
canst have no fruit without the sap! O child of God, thou hast no life within thee apart from the
life which God gives thee through His Spirit! Then let us not grieve Him or provoke Him to
anger by our sin. Let us not quench Him in one of His faintest motions in our soul; let us foster
every suggestion, and be ready to obey every prompting.

If the Holy Spirit be indeed so mighty, let us attempt nothing without Him; let us begin no
project, and carry on no enterprise, and conclude no transaction, without imploring His blessing.
Let us do Him the due homage of feeling our entire weakness apart from Him, and then
depending alone upon Him, having this for our prayer, 'Open Thou my heart and my whole
being to Thine incoming, and uphold me with Thy free Spirit when I shall have received that
Spirit in my inward parts.'
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:44am On Aug 01, 2016
false jw claim to be Christian, yet they say Jesus Christ is "a god"
"a god" died for the sins of the World
"a god' gave us Salvation
through "a god" we are saved,
we are saved through having faith in "a god"

However we Christians are saved through having faith in God

there is only one true God
"a god" and all other god's are false god's.
false jw write John 1:1 as: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god

false jw have God in the beginning with a false god, a false god created all that exists
a false god is the image of God etc.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:29am On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
@ solite3, look at the bolded, do you believe spirits have bodies?
@ solite3, do you believe humans have this kind of body after they die?
@ Johnw74, this body that you say the angel has, is it the same as the one the rich man has in hell?
@johnw74, (concerning second bolded above )look at brocabs own words posted about the flesh and hell.
11:27pm, June 17, page 96 of these thread, brocab said thus :
"His flesh would end up in hell, where you flesh is heading"
so do you believe brocab, do you believe flesh goes to hell?
I'm not to interisted in your hell- spirit body-flesh body debate
else I would be in it with many scriptures

but you are just getting away from answering my post on your blaspheming

it's here: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/110#48043376
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:08am On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
did not even see your post when I was accusing him of forgery, I've said months ago that his sole aim is to find fault by any means possible, he had lied, tried character assassination, defamation and now forgery.
more false accusations from phony jw
accusing of forgery where humour was given, for one

fancy lie lie dolphinheart accusing of lying smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:04am On Aug 01, 2016
dolphinheart:
see how low you have become, you have to commit forgery to pass your message across. why do you do such a thing and put jessicha name on it?
of course satan has no sense of humour either
like you false jw he is the great accuser.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:02am On Aug 01, 2016
Jozzy4:
Since you confess the story has a spiritual meaning @underlined , if so that renders it a parable and not a literal event . therefore your using it as an evidence of spirit in hell or heaven is clearly WRONG. So far its not meant to be taken literally . cheesy cheesy cheesy


spiritual tongue tinz grin grin buhahaha
how they love to play with words - lie
but it is ingrained in them
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:56am On Aug 01, 2016
Barristter07:
Brocab




are you aware of Nairaland Rule Number 8 : which says " don't post false information on Nairaland "

the below screenshot in which you quoted and Actually EDITED Jessichas post to seem she said what she didn't say is a falsification of evidence on your part. and I believe people like you should be look into by MR Seun and the mods because if you can do this in a small issue as this , who knows what you will do in a more critical issue . this is how it starts.


Later , you will say you are a so called born again grin . I can see , it really showed in you . posting false information about someone is rude and indecent behaviour on your part.




The original post by Jessicha is also included, to prove how dubious and the kind of person brocab is.
lie lie barristter

you also have no comprehension
bro was being humorous which false jw don't seem to understand
but love to lie and make a big deal out of their own false accusations
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 12:40am On Aug 01, 2016
gmaribel:
Can't belive I just wasted my time trying to show an Anti Christ that Jesus is the Son of God.
It is known by him that Jesus is the Son of God, your accusation is false

You don't understand how Jesus can be the Son of God and can be God
God, is God and the Word John 1:1

there are many Bible verses showing Jesus to be God
saying Jesus is not God as you do, is being an antichrist.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:07am On Jul 31, 2016
Jessicha:
the funniest thing about the underlined is that the ressurection hasn't occur yet. just contradicting himself here and there
duh, he is referring to the future event,
non comprehension seems to run through all false jw's
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
dolphinheart:
continue with your desperate attempt to explain my own words, I don't mind, sincere ones will see through your folly.
lie lie dolphinheart

Ha ha, your lies are never ending, oh desperate one

dolphinheart:
months now Ive asked you to a least once, just show the world the full text of that post, you refuse to.
@bold, You are deluded, "the world" is not reading this

more lie lies, I have told you that I'm not interisted in your false doctrine post about the Word being "a god"
I told you that I'm only interested in where you blasphemed God.
Of course there is nothing stopping you from posting your full post here, the reason you don't is because there is nothing in it that shows you were not blaspheming.
You want to discuss all your false doctrine in your post to get away from your blasphemy, however I won't allow you to do that lie lie.


dolphinheart:
I've asked you to show the world where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you mentioned, you refused to
more lie lies, I did reply to your post as I have told you many times, if you didn't like my reply, that's to bad for you, stop crying and lying, ha ha, as if you could

@bold, "the world" smiley

dolphinheart:
You have a right to believe anything, ive shown your accusation to be false, it came out of deliberate manipulation of my words and can only be sustained if you believe what it means is different from what the originator of those words believe it means.
more lie lies, truly your words were copied and pasted, as you know

dolphinheart:
everyone again pls note
1. I never called god and the word a two headed god
more lie lies, Jesus is the Word, you called God and Jesus - the Word "a two headed god"

dolphinheart:
2. I never called god a two headed god
more lie lies, God and the Word is God John 1:1, you called God "a two headed God"

dolphinheart:
3. you can notice he is always trying to avoid the part that says "your god is two persons in one".
only If he can be confident enough to post the full text of my post, but he will come up with some excuse.
more lie lies, I'm not avoiding the part where you say "your god is two persons in one, a two headed god" and never have, but you false jw cannot help but lie.
Yes it's my God you called "a two headed god", my God, the God of John 1:1, my God, God and the Word who you called "a two headed god". You unwittingly again confirmed your blasphemy.

lie lie dolphinheart you continually twist words - lie, to avoid the truth
you twist and lie to cover up more lies, it's an ongoing thing, liars are not very good at it you know, but you have been blinded to that:
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:35am On Jul 31, 2016
Jessicha:


OMG@ bold ! spiritual tongue grin grin grin grin
grin grin grin grin , what about the fire ? spiritual fire too ; D , spiritual Water , Spiritual Finger . mehn , religion is crazy.

so the whole story has a spiritual meaning after all , not to be taken literal anymore ?

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.


John described the Spirit body of the Angel of the Lord:
white head and hair, eyes as a flame of fire, feet like fine brass,
his tongue also would have been spirit, perhaps you think it would have been flesh and blood

@jessicha, dolphinheart, jozzy4:
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Ignatius who was a student of the Apostle John said:

"Our God Jesus Christ, indeed, has revealed himself more clearly by returning to the Father. The greatness of Christianity lies in its being hated by the world, not in its being convincing to it."


And of course it's true and can be seen even here where Christians are hated by false jw - the world
and of course false jw cannot be convinced of Christianity,
they even teach that Christ is "a god", "an angel"

Heb_1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Father called Jesus "God", the Bible also informs us there is only one True God, not two a almighty and a mighty god,
so false jw believe Jesus is a false god

Heb_1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Father said them things to Jesus, but He never said them to an angel, just as He said
so false jw don't believe Father

Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,



The truth is everywhere
so is false jw lies

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:25am On Jul 30, 2016
Rom_2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

Rom_2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

Christians will one day be caught up to our Lord
while others will go through the Lord's wrath for
their lies and blasphemy etc. against Him
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
dolphinheart:
@ bolded, was this how you put my words when you first started with your false accusations? no , I've provided proof of how you cut off parts of my sentence, everyone pls see below, look at his accusation on what I said and pls look at the bolded above and check if some words has not been cut off , removed and modified from my sentence.

On June 29, 2:49 am , page 101 of these thread, johnw74 accused me of saying:
"Of course the same Lie Lies all over again from phony dolphinheart, at least now he is admitting that he said:
god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!."


On that same post he also said this :
"where blaspheming dolphinheart said:
god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!.

for you to know how far back this false accusation had been, pls look at his post on may 26 , 1:37 am , page 64 of these thread.
In that post he said :
[b]" dolphinheart said that god and the word" is a two headed god"


PLEASE EVERYONE , CAN YOU SEE THAT HIS ACCUSATIONS OR WHAT HE IS CLAIMING I SAID IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID!
JOHNW74, YOU CANNOT CLAIM YOU DID NOT CUT OFF, MODIFY, REMOVED PARTS OF MY SENTENCE!


your manipulation of my sentence has been shown to you above once again.


everyone can see that you did not leave my sentence the way it was, it was deliberately done so that it can be manipulated and given a different explanation, all this is done while cutting off the rest of the post
so that everyone wunt see it!


you explained MY OWN WORDS!, are you dolphinheart?, if you don't understand my words ask and it shall be explained to you. Don't give it your own warped and false explanation!

to show you his desperation pls compare his statement above with the statement he make months ago on these thread :
(statement made 11:34 pm, may 26 on these thread by johnw74 )
and now dolphinheart says he didn't call god and the Word "a two headed god"

he is desperately trying to explain my own words and at the same time refusing to post the full text of that post!, but months ago he already knew I was not calling god and the word a two headed god!.



1. pls post my the full text of my post
2. remember you could not respond constructively when I told you about John 1:1
3. you have refused to show us where you responded to my explanation of the scriptures you mentioned!
lie lie dolphinheart


what a phony

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."




god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!."

Ha ha phony, they are exactly the same, when you lied - denied saying it, I quoted your whole sentence showing that you did indeed say it

and this one:
" dolphinheart said that god and the word" is a two headed god"

is true, your sentence above is saying that God and the Word is "a two headed god", your lying and twisting of words doesn't change that at all





Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

the OP was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

lie lie dolphinheart referred to the God of John 1:1 as being "a two headed god"

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



God and the Word is God, dolphinheart called God, "a two headed god'


you way heap big lie lie dolphinheart, and worse, you blaspheme God
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
dolphinheart:
did I deny that I never wrote about a two headed God? no
I refuse to accept modified statements whereby parts of my full sentence is being cut off, modified, removed , or adjusted . I do not deny my own sentences.
lie lie dolphinheart

you know as well as I that your quoted statement has not been modified,
no parts of your full sentence has been cut off, modified, removed , or adjusted, as you know
you just cannot help but lie lie post after post
dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
If you say I said something, leave my sentences the way they are when mentioning what I said.
Secondly , do not try to explain what I said to suit or own whims while deliberately cutting off other sentences of mine that goes a long way in explaining what I said , only dubious people do that.
your sentence was left exactly the way it was, oh dubious one

dolphinheart:
third , I've asked and begged you guys to post the full text of my post where those sentences of mine are, you claim to have seen my post, but even you could not post the full text here so that I can explain my own words. you prefer taking snippets out of that post, modifying it and then giving it your own understanding and explanations.
no part of your post has been modified giving a diffrent understanding and explanations,
here it is again exactly the way you wrote it, isn't that so lie lie
dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
did you question me about my statements?no , you falsely accused me after modifying my sentence, initially refusing to quote my sentence in full and preferring to explain my sentence even when you had the courage to quote them.
A request for a the full text of that post has been made, yet you have not posted it on this thread!
lie lie I rightly accused you and continue to, and modified nothing in your sentence, your sentence has not once been modified,
I have explained your sentence although it doesn't need explaining it's very clear that you referred to God and the Word as "a two headed god"

lie lie dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John showed that God and the Word was "God"

lie lie dolphinheart referred to God and the Word as in John 1"1 as "a two headed god"




you just a way big lie lie

lie lie dolphinheart your near every word is a lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Jozzy4:
Must you add lies to your problems , the strike through are not found in the text, but a insertion by brocab! grin liar
dolphinheart:
YOU CAN LIE!, did those verses say the spirit remains? no , it says the spirit returns! to who! to the one who gave it! God!. you mentioned the outcome of the flesh, you decided to change the outcome of the spirit! liar!
lie lie jozzy and lie lie dolphinheart cannot comprehend so they call out liar

fancy lie lie false jw's calling out liar
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:15am On Jul 29, 2016
Jozzy4:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/4029863_tmpcam665937360_jpeg8ae8f5aa333e77d1dba866b37d380f10
now, now, I know you hate the truth, it upsets you
but that's your problem


johnw74:
Bro, as you can see false jw jozzy doesn't comprehend anything that is said, either that or he twists things around because he has no answer,
which is dishonest - lying, which he does often, and which is another jw trait.

As you know he doesn't understand the Bible either, and using a corrupted Bible and being told what to believe just makes it doubly worse.

Some say they are not jw, but if they believe false jw teachings then they are false jw and do lie.
If they follow satans teachings then they are satans disciples.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74:
The Bible shows that Jesus is the Son of God
the Bible also shows that Jesus is God, with even the Father calling Jesus God.

You can believe the Bible is true, and so believe even the verses that you don't understand
or you can not believe the Bible which many do by not believing what is said there, and changing it.

As for Christians they believe through faith, even though some don't fully understand how Jesus is the Son of God and God

non believers cannot possibly even begin to understand, without God in them.
If you think the Holy Spirit is just God's power, then of course He is not in you.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:48am On Jul 28, 2016
brocab:
It must be difficult for you to accept this scripture, knowing your organisation don't even believe Hell nor Hades ever exist.
So of course you see the rich man could still be alive in the flesh
, when he asked for water from Abraham. grin
Jozzy4:
You are putting yourself in frying pan, if the rich man is still alive in flesh, answer me : of what purpose is the ressurection ?
Bro, as you can see false jw jozzy doesn't comprehend anything that is said, either that or he twists things around because he has no answer,
which is dishonest - lying, which he does often, and which is another jw trait.

As you know he doesn't understand the Bible either, and using a corrupted Bible and being told what to believe just makes it doubly worse.

Some say they are not jw, but if they believe false jw teachings then they are false jw and do lie.
If they follow satans teachings then they are satans disciples.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 3:14am On Jul 28, 2016
Jehovah’s witnesses are very strongly cultic in both doctrine and behaviour, thus fitting both categories of false doctrine and mind control.


They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower’s magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don’t read the Watchtower’s books, you will “fall into darkness” – what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 12:10am On Jul 28, 2016
rodDICK:
this is one of the most insane topic I have seen on NL. are you talking about the JW we know or is it another group of christians?

I do not belong to a religious group because of the hypocrisy in religion. but if I were to begin associating with a religious group it would be Jehovah witnesses. no Christian group is up to their standard.

I know a few persons who are JW and they are so lovely. do you even know what a cult is?

OP you are embarrassing yourself by creating this thread.
a cult can be many things, for one, a group of people who follow other people and believes false prophecies etc, are a cult

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 7:05am On Jul 27, 2016
Mat_1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus Christ sprung from Mary and the Holy Spirit - God is His Father
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 3:29am On Jul 27, 2016
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We should expect Satan, the adversary of God and the father of lies, to advance many variants of the person of Jesus Christ. Satan would want all the false views to succeed in some measure to lead people away from the true Jesus.

One may recall the temptations of Jesus by Satan in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1–11). The great deceiver even attempted to use Scripture to trick Jesus into sinning (Matthew 4:6). The tactic of the serpent in the garden was to deceive the woman by distorting the plain meaning of the Word of God (Genesis 3:1–6). Satan, through the serpent, quoted the words of God and abused their meaning. We must be aware of the devil’s devices (1 Corinthians 2:11).....................


Conclusion

The reality is that John 1:1–3 clearly reveals the deity of Jesus Christ, the Word, being the Creator God. As such it confirms many other passages in Scripture that teach that Christ is God. Early church fathers such as Ignatius, who was a disciple of John the Apostle, also recognized Jesus as God. The significance of this is a matter of salvation. Without the true Jesus, can one really be saved?

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 3:27am On Jul 27, 2016
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Father let's us know that Jesus is indeed God, by calling Him that

Father also let's us know that He is the God of Jesus by saying so

Father said the Son is God, as John also says:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

the Son is God, the Son's God is His Father
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Trinity Logic by johnw74: 1:50am On Jul 25, 2016
"From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude . . . They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago . . . " (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981, p. 29). (See the quote in context.)
by Matt Slick
The Watchtower says that the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the physical resurrection of Christ are all false doctrines. Yet, the Watchtower says that if you read the Bible by itself, you will end up believing these doctrines. In other words, if you read the Bible by itself, then you will become a Trinitarian--believe that Jesus is God and believe that Jesus rose from the dead physically. Why is that? Could it be because the Bible teaches these things? So I ask the Jehovah's Witnesses, what is it in the Bible that would lead someone to this conclusion? Again, what is in the Bible that reading it by itself would lead you to believe in the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and His physical resurrection?

This quote from the Watchtower is proof that it is teaching contrary to the natural reading of the Bible and that it is controlling the beliefs of those who follow it.

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:39am On Jul 25, 2016
More about the sect who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses:

Watchtower quotes prior to 1914

Russell taught that Jesus invisible rulership began in 1874.

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from Apr 1878, A.D." Studies in Scriptures Series IV (1897) p.621

As shown at DaVinci Code, Russell used pyramidology to support this belief.

https://www.jwfacts.com/images/1914-pyramid-chart.jpg

1874 to 1914 was described as the greatest time of trouble in human history, with 1914 to be the conclusion of the Last Days. Armageddon would begin, resulting in the wholesale destruction of all government and religion. Russell and his followers were to be raised to heaven and Jesus Kingdom would then be established as paradise on earth.

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