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dolphinheart:
then it should be easy for you to post it na! right? , wrong!, cus you too refuse to post the full text of what you have seen!

brocab:
I had seen it myself bro, Dolphinheart will never own up to the truth.

Ha ha, you saw it because you saw the link I gave to it, where dolphinheart said: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

and see how he still lies, denying he said it.

false jw in lying is just taking after his father, it's impossible for him not to lie.


Jesus was talking to here, yes you guessed it, to the pharisees, the fore fathers of the supossed jehovah's witnesses:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Lie Lie dolphinheart


false jw's have a false god - a false jehovah

a jehovah whose only begotten son is "a god", "an angel"

a jehovah whose holy spirit is an "it", a "thing"

dolphinheart:
must I agree to what the op says,? no!
can I counter what the op says,? Yes
was the op right about God and the word? no
could the op counter my arguments and comment on the scriptures I used as proof? no
did I counted the ops arguement? Yes!

up till this moment, he could not show where he responded to my explanation!



did dolphinheart talk about God and the word?
has dolphinheart been able to proof without response from the op that the real god and the word is not his god? Yes !.
This is the reason why up till now, he cannot provide the transcript of what transpired in that thread!, he could only try and justify his accusations based on his understanding and could never provide the full texts of our posts.

PLS NOTE, HE IS USING THE PREVIOUS ISSUE TO COVER UP HIS INABILITY TO SHOW US WHERE HE RESPONDED TO MY EXPLANATION( the main issue at hand)


you have still refused to apologise for your first accusation, but as you have decided to modify it without apology, you could not provide the post I said it!


you did not provide a link to my post sir!, you could provide a link to all the post , but you where asked to provide a link, to my post. I short , I dare you to post my full text in your next post if you can!
at least when issues of who said what comes up, I point to the date, time and page which the statement came up. This you gave refused to do!


oga, show where you responded to my explanation and let's see!

Just the same lies as before.

I told you I'm not doing more searches for lazy false jw,
but false jw hates the truth and loves to lie all the time.

dolphinheart concerning God and the Word: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You know as well as I do that you said it, you just cannot help but lie

Lie Lie dolphinheart

Similarities between the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Pharisees:


The Pharisees denied the Trinity

The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the trinity



The Pharisees denied the diety of Christ

The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the diety of Christ



The Pharisees denied the physical resurrection of Christ

The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Christ



The Pharisees denied salvation by grace alone

The Jehovah's Witnesses deny salvation by grace alone



The Pharisees were self righteous

The Jehovah's Witnesses are self righteous

more here:
https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

Modern Pharisees

Similarities between Pharisees and Jehovah’s Witnesses



The Pharisees went to great lengths in making proselytes. (it-2 625)

Jehovah’s Witnesses go to great lengths in making converts.



Jesus declared that … the Pharisees, had added many things, making the Law burdensome for the people to follow, loading the people down. (it-2 878)

Jehovah’s Witnesses have added many things to the Bible (ca. 50 Watchtower study articles and numerous other publications every year), making it burdensome for the people to follow all these instructions. They keep loading the people down.



The Pharisees were so biased in their application of the Law that they made it burdensome for the people, insisting that it be observed according to their concepts and traditions. (it-2 625)

Jehovah’s Witnesses are so biased in their application of the Bible that they make it burdensome for their followers, insisting that it be observed according to their concepts and traditions.



To a blind man whom Jesus had cured on the Sabbath they said concerning Jesus: “This is not a man from God, because he does not observe the Sabbath.” (it-2 625, 626)

Regarding members of other religions groups who perform works of Christian charity they say: “These people are not Christians because they don’t go from house to house.”



Jesus voiced God’s rejection of the Pharisees: … “This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.” (w95 10/15 29)

Jehovah’s Witnesses honor God with their lips (in their field ministry). But this is in vain, because (at the people’s doors as well as in their meetings) they teach commands of men (from the Watchtower) as doctrines.

more here:
http://eng.svhelden.info/?page_id=22

brocab:
I had seen it myself bro, Dolphinheart will never own up to the truth.

False jw dolphinheart's lies are truly amazing aren't they, as is the constant lying of all false jw's, we see Bible verses coming true before our very eyes concerning them.

It's amazing how false jw's stay right away from the truth, using every means of lying known,
one of their favorite means is to twist what is said, including twisting the scriptures.

These verses are Jesus Christ talking off false jw and their fore fathers:

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?



Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

More on the sect who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses

In 1949 Dr. Pescor found that 8% of his
total examples of jw's were classified as
psychotic. This meams the level of
psychosis among witnesses is about 40
times higher than the rate for the popu-
lation as a whole.

read it here:

on jw mental health:
http://www.jwfacts.com/pdf/jws-mental-illness-john-stedman.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-82,354



some other similar articles:

more on jw mental health:
www.jwfacts.com/pdf/mental-health-jws-john-spencer.pdf

mental health issues in jw women
www.jwfacts.com/.../Wifely-Subjection-Mental-Health-Issues-in-JW-Women. pdf

jw's and schizophrenia:
www.jwfacts.com/pdf/jehovahs-witnesses-schizophrenia.pdf

dolphinheart:
just like that issue on where he lied against me, that I said " god is a two headed god", he could not provide the date and time I said such. He adjusted his accusation without apologising, yet he still could not post the details or post the post where such statement was made.
He kept on trying to define and explain my statements, yet he could not provide the full texts of that post so that everyone can cross check his explanation , nor point out the post where such statement occurred .

This is the same thing he is doing now, claiming he responded to my explanation but Could not provide it !

Lie Lie dolphinheart

The thread - the OP, was about John 1:1, about God and the Word being God.

and you false jw dolphinheart said concerning God and the Word: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

and you false jw dolphinheart continue to twist and lie and deny that referring to God and the Word you said: "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."


and I did post a link to it, absolutely everything you said is lies, not just part of it, but all of it is lies.

Speaking lies is speaking naturally for you Lie Lie dolphinheart

Jesus is definately talking off false jw's here, as well as other habitual liars of course:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Lie Lie jozzy

More truth about the sect who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses:

In these forums, in the different threads, we see false jw going on and on, post after post, and thread after thread, about about how they are God's chosen people, how they are unjustly persecuted etc etc., trying to convince others that they are the true Church, we constantly read that from false jw in the different threads in these forums.

Christians don't go on and on and on about themselves, about how we are persecuted and murdered, even though we are in parts of the World.

With false jw's it's all about them, them, them, me, me, me, it's all about false jw

With Christians it's about the Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour.

goodnews201668:
Lie lie john the baby slander, the false teacher. Double poster and impostor is everything alright with you? "Do you still have something upstairs"?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

dolphin:

HE IS TRYING TO CHANGE THE ISSUES AGAIN, WHEN THEY ARE EXPOSED , THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

that's what Christians say about false jw

copycat dolphinheart.



brocab:

{Matthew 23:13} "But who unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men; for ye neither go in yourselves, nor will you allow those who want to enter in.
Listening to you dolphinheart really makes a difference on peoples lives, you won't go into heaven nor will you allow anyone else to go in.

dolphinheart:

that thought, only exist in your mind.

pharisee jw, that thought exists in Christs' Mind too:

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.



brocab:

Don't you realise the truth about Christ is travelling at a faster rate across the nations, the word of God is spreading faster then you think dolphinheart, and their is nothing you can do to stop it.

dolphinheart:

yep, in many lands, the good news is being preached everyday, in homes and on the streets.

The good news is not being preached by false jw, who preach that Jesus is "a god", "an angel", "a two headed God", that the end is coming in 19 whatever, and all the multitude of lies that supposed jw's have preached over the decades, and continue to preach.

pharisee hypocrit jw preach lies in many lands, in homes and on the streets.

Jesus said:

Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

dolphinheart:
EVERY CAN SEE ONE MORE TIME, HE COULD NOT POST HIS RESPONSE TO MY EXPLANATION OF THOSE SCRIPTURES.

you could not show your response, but you want to talk about if I liked it or not! imagine

Lie Lie dolphinheart

Last time I done a search for lazy antichrist dolphinheart,
he then denied it for many posts, saying one lie after another,
page after page, even though I gave the link to him saying it,
false jw twisted and lied about what he said.

I have to admit false jw's are good at one thing:
using every means known to lie, twisting what is said, taking away from what is said, adding to what is said, etc, etc.


false jw dolphinheart said about God and the Word:

dolphinheart:

your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Just a few of false jw gooknews double postings,
is all well there

goodnews 201668:

goodnews201668:
;DConfused baby,

goodnews201668:


a baby like you

goodnews201668:
You are just a baby like i said.

;DYou are just a baby like i said.

goodnews201668:
This baby please stop quoting me.

goodnews201668:
Its clear you are just a kid.

goodnews201668:
Baby slander!

anyone home upstairs missy?

dolphinheart:
EVERY CAN SEE ONE MORE TIME, HE COULD NOT POST HIS RESPONSE TO MY EXPLANATION OF THOSE SCRIPTURES.

you could not show your response, but you want to talk about if I liked it or not! imagine

Lie Lie dolphinheart

Such an habitual liar, false jw's lies never end,
do your own searching lazy antichrist.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4:
Only a deceiver will say the Word ( Jesus christ ) is Gods spirit. False teacher

Lie Lie jozzy

The following two verses are talking of the Word - Jesus Christ,
and job shows that the Word - Jesus Christ is "the Spirit of God":

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

The Word - Jesus Christ made job:

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was mad

It's amazing how antichrist jozzy is wrong absolutely every time,
well not really amazing, having the wrong spirit as he does.

Jesus is the Truth

satan is the father of lies

Jozzy4:
False Teacher , Go And study personification in the scriptures , is " it " used for a person ?

You are wrong yet again false jw, here is a couple of imaginery examples to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for many things, including animals and persons, even for Father God:

Bill said about Jims pet Tiger: "it" eats a lot
however the Tiger is not a thing an it, but an animal.

When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
Thomas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.
However the Father God is not a "it", a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

Christians know it's God that saved us, not "a god" or "an angel", but God:

3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

Notice verse 4, Father God is "our Saviour"
and in verse 6, Jesus Christ is "our Saviour".

Jesus is Jehovah, our Saviour.

Just a few things Jesus said to the pharisees, and it applies to their descendants, the pharisee false jw hypocrites of today,
read these verses and see just how true it is:

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

goodnews201668:
Its clear you are just a kid.

Lie Lie gooknews

Now come on, stop your crying and put your dummy back in

goodnews201668:
This baby please stop quoting me.

dolphinheart:
then it will be easy for you to show us na! so what is holding you!
pls show where you responded to my explanation of those scriptures !

pls note that he will not !

false jw cannot help but lie again and again.

Truly I did respond to false jw's post,
you may not have liked my response , but that's your problem isn't it, and it is there isn't it,
Lie Lie dolphinheart

I posted the scriptures, and of course they are perfectly true,
but false jw responded to the scriptures I posted, twisting and denying the plain meaning of them.

Lie Lie dolphinheart


Jesus is Jehovah:


Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


....


Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


....


Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


....


Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


....



Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


....


Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


....


Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.





The Jehovah verses are referring to Jehovah
and
the Jesus verses are referring to Jesus.

But there are deceivers and antichrists that will twist it all around.

2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

deceiving antichrist jw would say: a god, an angel, has come into the World,
a god, an angel, is the saviour of the World.

Christians know it's God that saved us.

3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

Notice verse 4, the Father is "our Saviour"
and in verse 6, Jesus Christ is "our Saviour"

Jesus is Jehovah, our Saviour.

Jozzy4:
I dont know ur false teachings blind you to this extent . very wrong @bold .

false accuser liar jw jozzy couldn't be truthful if his life depended on it
and it does.

Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
go and do your assignment, find out why they put " him " in bracket . then your eyes go clear

false accuser liar jw jozzy, believes something here and there, and disbelieves a multitude of scriptures.

Jesus said about the blind teachers, which of course includes blind pharacee jw:
Mat_23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Lie Lie jozzy

solite3:
yes it can be used for a person

Jozzy4:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3833839_meme20160613115751_jpege8ea3aacfe44055d5ccfd8c808c8afe6

Bill said to Jim: "is that your sister Jim?"

Jim replied to Bill: yes Bill "it" is.

Jim could have easily replied: yes Bill "she" is
buy many people use "it" when referring to persons.


Lie Lie jozzy.................all over the place

Jozzy4:
lol @ red, can you see ?

I know you are not an honest person, those that use HIM in those verses commit great grammatical blunders and they are blinded by doctrine just like you!!! I won't explain now, one simple assignment, why do you think Him was insert in a bracket @ blue ?

false accuser jw jozzy picks one or two things and disregards all the rest,
that's what satans disciples do, because they have nothing else.

This translation doesn't have "Him" in brackets, but things like that don't mean anything, except to you who has nothing.

Numbers 11:17 (NAS) "Then I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take of the Spirit who is upon you, and will put "Him" upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, so that you will not bear it all alone.



Lie Lie jozzy you have been blinded, you work hard at rejecting the truth, and believe all lies.

Jesus again speaks off false jw:

Mat_23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

dolphinheart:
hope you where not sleeping when I quoted and explained those scriptures on this thread, you could not respond then, you are bringing it up again, typical!

well I do not discuss with those whose believe comes from the search for similarities who refuse to respond to direct statements from God, Jesus and the apostles!
IF I quote the scriptures for you, you will NOT SEE IT!

Lie Lie dolphinheart

I did respond, but false jw loves to lie,
I saw your lies and twisting and explaining away the true meaning of every one of those verses,
but they are true, and show that Jehovah is Jesus.

false jw loves to lie.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3704758_verse22_giff1affdaf132c2b0820981af68b6147d5
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3704760_jesusisjehovah_gifc481fd19266bbfb832bf8799776cc213

goodnews201668:
This baby please stop quoting me.

You are posting to me and then say: "This baby please stop quoting me."
Duh false jw, put your dummy back in


Lie Lie gooknews

false jw cannot help but lie, it's the spirit in them,

Christians have the Spirit of truth, haven't you noticed.

^^^ (website link was deleted)
If you don't follow the Bible, then what Jesus do you follow?
the Bible is the only place you can learn of Him.

That article is not at that link.

I don't believe Jesus looked European with hair like a woman.

false accuser jw jozzy thinks that one verse where the Holy Spirit is referred to as "it", proves that the Holy Spirit is not personable, and he disbelieves all the very many scriptures that show the Holy Spirit is a person.

Lie Lie jozzy



is an "it" a Holy Spirit?

No, but God is a Holy Spirit.

dolphinheart:
does jehovah have a beginning ? how can the person that was with another person now be the same person he was with?

well, there is no need to wait and see if you will answer, the scriptures has told us who jehovah is, the problem you had was because the kjv removed jehovahs name in many many places it was mentioned in the scriptures, if not, you would have know Jesus is not jehovah God!

Jesus is Jehovah:


Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


....


Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


....


Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


....


Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


....



Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


....


Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


....


Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

solite3:
John1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God

dolphinheart:
does jehovah have a beginning ? how can the person that was with another person now be the same person he was with?

well, there is no need to wait and see if you will answer, the scriptures has told us who jehovah is, the problem you had was because the kjv removed jehovahs name in many many places it was mentioned in the scriptures, if not, you would have know Jesus is not jehovah God!

Duh, much confusion with false two headed god jw, solite already showed how two persons are one God by posting a verse that says it.

two persons:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

One God:
and the Word was God.

Jozzy4:
okay , @ Numbers 11:17 KJV , holy spirit is an IT , is "it " used for a person ?

Jozzy4:
false teacher answer the question instead of this rant

is IT used for a person? numbers 11:25 KJV

The same lie over and over again from false accuser jozzy
Yes "it" can be used for a person, examples were given but false jw jozzy ignores then because they go against his satanic doctrine that the Holy Spirit is not a person.

Lie Lie jozzy hangs onto one verse - word, and ignores many verses showing that the Holy Spirit is indeed a person,
but that's what satans disciples do.



By the way "it" wasn't in the Hebrew text that the English is taken from, it was added by some translators.

The KJV says: "and will put it upon them;"
The New KJV says: "and will put the same upon them;"

These following Bible verses give a better translation of Numbers 11:17 so as not to be to difficult for the unlearned, who think The HOLY SPIRIT is an "it"


ummm I wonder what is HOLY about an "it", a thing
Answer: nothing,.... but God is HOLY.


Numbers 11:17 (CSB) Then I will come down and speak with you there. I will take some of the Spirit who is on you and put [the Spirit] on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.

Numbers 11:17 (NAS) "Then I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take of the Spirit who is upon you, and will put Him upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, so that you will not bear it all alone.

Numbers 11:17 (NIRV) I will come down. I will speak with you there. I will take some of my Spirit that is on you. And I will put the Spirit on them. They will help you carry the people's load. Then you will not have to carry it alone.

Numbers 11:17 (NKJV) Then I will come down and talk with you there. I will take of the Spirit that is upon you and will put the same upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone.

Numbers 11:17 (NLT) I will come down and talk to you there. I will take some of the Spirit that is upon you, and I will put the Spirit upon them also. They will bear the burden of the people along with you, so you will not have to carry it alone.

Bamidbar 11:17 (OJB) And I will come down and speak with thee there; and I will take of the Ruach [Hakodesh] that is upon thee, and will put [Him] upon them; and they shall bear the massa HaAm (burden of the People) with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.

Numbers 11:17 (RHE) That I may come down and speak with thee: and I will take of thy spirit, and will give to them, that they may bear with thee the burden of the people, and thou mayest not be burthened alone.

Numbers 11:17 (TYN) And I wyll come doune and talke with the there and take of yt spirite which is apon the and put apon them ad they shall bere with the in the burthen of the people and so shalt thou not beare alone.

Numbers 11:17 (WYC) that I come down, and speak to thee; and I shall take away of thy spirit, and I shall give to them, that they sustain with thee the burden of the people, and not thou alone be grieved. (and I shall come down, and speak with thee; and I shall take away some of the spirit that is upon thee, and I shall give it to them, so that they can help sustain the burden of the people along with thee, and so that not only thou be travailed.)

Numbers 11:17 (YLT) and I have come down and spoken with thee there, and have kept back of the Spirit which [is] upon thee, and have put on them, and they have borne with thee some of the burden of the people, and thou dost not bear [it] thyself alone.