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dolphinheart:And of course he did, everyone including himself knows it, who was he referring to, Jack and Jill ![]() but Oh how he twists and lies, like a good little false jw concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God: dolphinheart:Lie Lie dolphinheart |
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. |
Christians know that God and the Word is God false jw preach that God and the word are two gods, Almighty God and mighty god Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Christians know that God is one false jw obviously don't believe it (above) Christians know the one true God is: God and the Word and the Holy spirit, three persons, one God false jw will never understand it, they don't have and cannot have a personal relationship with God, they think His Spirit is just His power, Duh, God is Spirit, He is not just a power. This is interisting brocab: Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: The original word “Elohim,” God, is certainly the plural form of “El,” or “Eloah,” and has long been supposed, by the most eminently learned and pious men, to imply a plurality of Persons in the Divine nature. As this plurality appears in so many parts of the sacred writings to be confined to three Persons, hence the doctrine of the Trinity, which has formed a part of the creed of all those who have been deemed sound in the faith, from the earliest ages of Christianity. Nor are the Christians singular in receiving this doctrine, and in deriving it from the first words of Divine revelation. (Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod.) "Hear, Israel, Jehovah, our God, is one Jehovah." On this passage the Jews lay great stress; and it is one of the four passages which they write on their phylacteries. An eminent Jewish rabbi, Simeon ben Joachi, in his comment on the sixth section of Leviticus, has these remarkable words: On the word Elohim, Simeon ben Joachi says: "Come and see the mystery of the word Elohim. There are three degrees, and each degree is by itself alone, and yet they are all one, and joined together in one, and are not divided from each other."See Ainsworth. He must be strangely prejudiced indeed who cannot see that the doctrine of a Trinity, and of a Trinity in unity, is expressed in the above words. |
Lie Lie captivator more lies from false jw: Jehovah Witness Facts 1 What the individual Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) are teaching others is NOT original with them. They did not get that by reading the Bible for themselves! They were taught those twisted and deadly concepts from their Governing Body (the Watchtower Society), which is a Bible-defined false prophet. (Often the JWs think they discovered those so-called truths by their own research and Bible study, but somehow seem to forget their own intense indoctrination through Watchtower literature and Kingdom Hall visits. PRIDE then helps to keep them spiritually blinded to God’s truths in the Bible.) 2 The founder of that group (Charles Taze Russel) did not get his weird doctrines from reading the Bible! Russell got those doctrines from others such as Arius of Alexandria, a fourth century heretic. (Arius was an outspoken enemy of the deity of Christ, like Russell and all JWs.) Russell revived his doctrines and arguments and presented them as his own. 3 Some of what Russell taught regarding various subjects important to the JW is now being denied and/or avoided because they are clear and definite contradictions to their own current teachings. Those teachings by Russell reveal him as a false prophet and unable to understand the Scriptures! For example, Russell wrote: The next chapter will present Bible evidence that 1874 A.D. was the exact date of the beginning of the “Times of Restitution,” and hence of our Lord’s return. (Study In The Scriptures, Vol. 2, (Watch Tower Bible And Tract Society),1908 ed., p. 170.) NOTE: The JWs today are teaching that 1914 was the Lord’s return, thereby denying the “light” (really darkness taught as light) from Russell. Also, note that Russell stated 1874 was derived from Bible evidence. Obviously, Russell’s Bible evidence was nonexistent since they now teach 1914 instead of 1874. Russell was therefore a deceiver, which is what the Lord said false prophets are (Mt. 24:11). Many sincere people back then were clearly deceived by Russell’s Bible evidence and still are today in other areas! That is the deceiver and man who started the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Here are more empty words and false teachings from him: ... likewise the forty years of the Gospel age harvest will end October, 1914, and that likewise the overthrow of “Christendom,” so-called, must be expected to immediately follow. “In one hour” judgment shall come upon her.—Rev. 18:10, 17, 19. (ibid., p. 245) Russell was a deluded, yet convincing false teacher. It should be apparent he was darkness, not “light,” not a “righteous man,” but a spokesman for the devil, who has stumbled millions over the years. Russell even went outside of the Bible to the Great Pyramid for his weird and lethal doctrines: ... the Great Pyramid of Egypt is one of God’s Witnesses (Isa. 19:19,20), whose wonderful message is a full and complete corroboration of God’s plan of the ages, together with its times and seasons. (ibid., p. 366) Isa. 19:19,20 has nothing to do with the Great Pyramid. Here is what that passage says: In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the LORD at its border. It will be a sign and witness to the LORD Almighty in the land of Egypt. When they cry out to the LORD because of their oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and he will rescue them. For more strange Russell statements exalting the importance of the Great Pyramid, click here and read http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/IMG_0742.JPG (They are found on what would be pp. 374,375 in vol. 2 of the Studies In The Scriptures.) 4 The JWs are constantly telling others about the 1,000 year reign of Christ of perfect peace on paradise earth. WHY? They wrongly think that is preaching “the good news of the kingdom.” In other words, they think that message is the “gospel.” When the Christian mentions that NEVER in the book of Acts—not even one time—did any of the Apostles (Peter, Paul, etc.) or other disciples like Stephen, Philip, etc. ever mention the 1,000 year reign of Christ as they spread the gospel, the JWs are speechless and exposed. The JWs are spreading “another gospel,” which has no power to save anyone. That is a FACT and a death-blow to their chief, central message. That is also the rotten fruit from their own Governing Body in Brooklyn, NY. The real preaching of “the good news of the kingdom” is related to spreading the true plan of salvation, which brings eternal life and which they also deny one can have now! The plan of salvation is shown in detail, in part and/or by inference dozens of times in the Book of Acts. It is concisely stated in Acts 20:21: I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus. That is the message which sets the sin-slave free and brings eternal life, because then and then only does a person “have the Son,” as mentioned in 1 John 5:12, 13, etc. The JWs are under the dangerous delusion that taking in (accurate) “knowledge,” as defined by the Watchtower Society, is related to getting eternal life! (Eternal life to them is simply living forever on Paradise earth. They know nothing about eternal life NOW, this side of the grave, through instant salvation.) 5 JWs often deny what others accurately say about them so they don’t have to deal with it! They say something like, We don’t believe that! Or We don’t teach that! Or I don’t see your point! That is, in part, how they were trained by their leaders in Brooklyn. That is part of their war strategy. In other words, at times they are taught to lie and deceive! Here is how they define a lie in their own literature: Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth .... (Aid To Bible Understanding, Watch Tower Bible And Tract Society, 1971, p. 1060.) If you are an enemy of the JW false gospel you are not entitled to know the truth from them, if you make a point they can’t deal with. We have seen this even when exact quotes and full documentation are supplied. Shocking, but true! Such Watchtower robots are sealing their own damnation by closing their eyes to such evidence. Some JWs even think any evidence, even from a non-credible source, is sufficient backing for their point. Anything will do, as long as it aligns itself with what the Watchtower literature says. Hence, many remain blind followers of the blind. In conclusion: Many JWs were never saved, yet some were. They are all lost now and refuse to come to JESUS for the living water and salvation he holds out to all (John 4:10; 5:39,40; etc). They claim they “have the Son” yet they don’t claim to have the eternal life now which goes with having the Son. They also can’t look to and trust Jesus for their salvation, since they even have another Jesus. All that is what a false prophet does to their victims. EvangelicalOutreach.Org PO Box 265 Washington PA 15301 read it here: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovah-witness-facts.pdf more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
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brocab:Lie Lie dolphinheart is so confused. Lies against the truth and causing strife do that to one Jas 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. Jas 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. Jas 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. |
dolphinheart: dolphinheart: dolphinheart:concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God: dolphinheart:Lie Lie dolphinheart |
goodnews201668:If the article didn't encourage you to study the matter, then neither can I. |
brocab: The more false jw lies that are exposed, the more they call out "LIAR" |
Lie Lie barristter more lies from false jw" continue reading here: https://carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/jesus-abaddon-and-apollyon-destroyer more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
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goodnews201668:You have to understand that they are one God, God is one, and you have to understand that they are two persons,concerning John 1:1 I won't say more on the matter than that, with the disbelievers that frequent this place, don't give your pearls to the dogs etc. also others explain things much better than I. theres plenty of good explanations given with scripture backing if you want to read them here is one: https://carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/john-11-word-was-god brocab, you will like this, a good read: |
brocab:Yeah he did lie and twist all over the place , captivator was happy to support him in his lies, they are truly satans disciples as per John 8:44 |
dolphinheart:ummm, the subject is did dolphinheart call God and the Word a two headed god, I showed that he did I said he would twist and lie Dolphinheart on God and the Word being God: dolphinheart:Lie Lie dolphinheart |
CAPTIVATOR:I havent changed from "God and the Word are one God" at all, the two statments mean exactly the same thing, there is only one true God. false jw loves to lie Lie Lie captivator |
When false jw's lies are exposed they then start calling you liar and I expose plenty of their lies. Just look at dolphinhearts attempts to deny having said "your god is a two headed god" concerning God and the Word, he knows as clearely as I do that he said it, but Lie Lie dolphinheart twists away so as not having to truth up. And barristter who quoted my post of bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to the post, afterwards he denied calling the Bible verses lies, duh why would he post the quote if he just wanted to say Lie Lie John to me, he has done that plenty of times before, but Lie Lie barristter loves to lie And Lie Lie captivator jumping in to support his fellow false jw's in their lies, and calling out Liar himself as the false jw accusers love to do. Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm |
brocab:Here it is: Here is the first post in the thread https://www.nairaland.com/3051431/jesus-christ-god#44743007 As you can see the thread is titled "Jesus Christ is God" and as you can see the opening post is an Exegesis of John 1:1 Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The thread is about John 1:1, the Word being God, which I also said in post two the OP and myself are agreeing with John 1:1 that God and the Word are both God, two persons one God, it's always been my belief. dolphinheart said in post four "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God" and that is referring to my God, "God and the Word" John 1:1 |
brocab:Finding it won't shut him up, he will just twist away and lie, you know that, But ok I will look for it. |
Barristter07:score false jw lies = so very very many johnw74 lies = not one ![]() wow I'm so far ahead more false jw Lies coming Lie Lie barristter |
Lie Lie captivator more lies from false jw: Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct Biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom. If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's Word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature. Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do. In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God. IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21). by Matt Slick some false jw's false prophecies listed at this link, Continue reading ...https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm |
CAPTIVATOR:Hey, keep fooling yourself, someone might believe you |
CAPTIVATOR:all Lie Lie captivator can do is accuse off what is true of him johnw74: |
CAPTIVATOR:What do you mean they, you are false prophets, the sites below will show you, do read them. Lie Lie captiivator read about this evil as well, there is more on this and false prophets at those sites. Watchtower Child Abuse Policies Watchtower is coming under increasing scrutiny for how they have dealt with pedophiles by the media and courts. This includes an Australian Royal Commission in 2015 finding Watchtower procedures to be out of date and damaging to victims, $13.5 million awarded to Lopez in 2014, and the 2012 case Candice Jane Doe vs Watchtower resulting in a judgement against Watchtower to pay $2.8 million dollars in damages. This article explains Watchtower policy regarding child abuse, and how these policies have provided protection for known pedophiles to continue offending within congregations. continue reading: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophilia.php https://jwfacts.com/images/pedophilia-secrets.jpg more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm |
CAPTIVATOR:Ha ha, Lie Lie captivator, all false jw can do is twist and Lie Lie Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
CAPTIVATOR:giving false prophecy and then changing it to another false prophecy when the event never happened is not adjusting understanding, you do lie, the false jw's are false prophets, false everything. @bold, yes we have seen the pharisee jw hypocrites all along |
CAPTIVATOR:ha ha, false jw lies all over the place Lie Lie barristter made reference to my post of bible verses, theres no other reason he would quote it and then say Lie Lie john about my post false jw loves to lie and support each other in their lies. |
dolphinheart:oh I am very sure, and so are you Lie Lie dolphinheart |
Lie Lie dolphinheart more lies from false jw: Dishonesty within JW.org Website Watchtower is using jw.org to present a whitewashed image to the public, garnering trust through presentation of an attractive and professional looking layout, yet its' feature articles are filled with dishonest and misleading information. read here: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/jw-org-website.php Even children are subject to comments designed to extract their money through guilt. The following images from the 2015 cartoon Be Generous encourages children to show generosity to Jehovah by donating pocket money at the kingdom hall, rather than spend it on ice-cream. https://www.jwfacts.com/images/sophia-icecream-2015.jpg https://www.jwfacts.com/images/sophia-donating-2015.jpg |
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Wow, Lie Lie barristter, and Lie Lie dolphinheart, and Lie Lie captivator, you are confirming over and over that Jesus in that verse is speaking off pharisee jw. |
Lie Lie barristter here are more lies from false jw: Favourite Watchtower Quotes Watchtower has made an incredible range of audacious statements over the years. For instance: “If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.” Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 Or compare the difference when referring to people who want to join Jehovah's Witnesses, with those that leave: “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” Awake! 2009 Jul p.29 “Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.” Watchtower Study Edition 2013 Jan 15 p.16 Here are some of my favourite. Continue reading ...http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/favourite-quotes.php more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm |
johnw74: God and the Word is God dolphinheart: your god is a two headed god and now dolphinheart says he didn't call God and the Word "a two headed god" what a phony Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. @underline, the pharasee along with satan were part of Jesus' murder Lie Lie dolphinheart |
Barristter07:Lie Lie barristter you lie every time that you say I lied again for the blinded, Lie Lie barrister posted my quote of Bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to it if he wasn't referring to my post then why did he quote it Lie Lie barristter cannot help but Lie Lie Truth couldn't be proved to Lie Lie barristter who has been blinded you have proved that yourself in your inability to see the truth ![]() johnw74: |
Barristter07:Lie Lie barristter rejected my honest explanation because he has been blinded and cannot see truth Barristter07:You posted my quote of Bible verses and replied Lie Lie John to it but Lie lie barristter loves to continue lying. score false jw lies = so so many johnw74 lies = not one ![]() even it it was one, which isn't, wow I'm so far ahead more false jw Lie Lie tomorrow |
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Like always nothing you say makes sense.