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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 12:44am On May 30, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
Amen! cheesy
Yea

OLAADEGBU:
He rose from the dead. Melissa's armour is shattered. shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:15am On May 30, 2016
dolphinheart:
EVERY ONE, PLS NOTICE THAT HE COULD STILL NOT POST OR QUOTE MY FULL POST

ON MAY 26 , 1:37 am( page 64 of these thread) John74 stated categorically that I said this :

"dolphinheart said that God and the Word is "a two headed god""
And of course he did, everyone including himself knows it, who was he referring to, Jack and Jill smiley
but Oh how he twists and lies, like a good little false jw


concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:
dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.
Lie Lie dolphinheart
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:11am On May 29, 2016
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:46am On May 29, 2016
Christians know that God and the Word is God

false jw preach that God and the word are two gods, Almighty God and mighty god
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Christians know that God is one
false jw obviously don't believe it (above)

Christians know the one true God is: God and the Word and the Holy spirit, three persons, one God
false jw will never understand it, they don't have and cannot have a personal relationship with God, they think His Spirit is just His power,
Duh, God is Spirit, He is not just a power.





This is interisting brocab:

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

The original word “Elohim,” God, is certainly the plural form of “El,” or “Eloah,” and has long been supposed, by the most eminently learned and pious men, to imply a plurality of Persons in the Divine nature. As this plurality appears in so many parts of the sacred writings to be confined to three Persons, hence the doctrine of the Trinity, which has formed a part of the creed of all those who have been deemed sound in the faith, from the earliest ages of Christianity. Nor are the Christians singular in receiving this doctrine, and in deriving it from the first words of Divine revelation.

(Shema Yisrael, Yehowah, Elohainoo, Yehowah aichod.)
"Hear, Israel, Jehovah, our God, is one Jehovah."
On this passage the Jews lay great stress; and it is one of the four passages which they write on their phylacteries.
An eminent Jewish rabbi, Simeon ben Joachi, in his comment on the sixth section of Leviticus, has these remarkable words:
On the word Elohim, Simeon ben Joachi says: "Come and see the mystery of the word Elohim. There are three degrees, and each degree is by itself alone, and yet they are all one, and joined together in one, and are not divided from each other."See Ainsworth. He must be strangely prejudiced indeed who cannot see that the doctrine of a Trinity, and of a Trinity in unity, is expressed in the above words.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:47am On May 29, 2016
Lie Lie captivator


more lies from false jw:

Jehovah Witness Facts

1 What the individual Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) are
teaching others is NOT original with them. They did
not get that by reading the Bible for themselves!
They were taught those twisted and deadly concepts
from their Governing Body (the Watchtower Society),
which is a Bible-defined false prophet. (Often the JWs
think they discovered those so-called truths by their
own research and Bible study, but somehow seem to
forget their own intense indoctrination through
Watchtower literature and Kingdom Hall visits.
PRIDE then helps to keep them spiritually blinded to
God’s truths in the Bible.)

2 The founder of that group (Charles Taze Russel)
did not get his weird doctrines from reading the
Bible! Russell got those doctrines from others such as
Arius of Alexandria, a fourth century heretic. (Arius
was an outspoken enemy of the deity of Christ, like
Russell and all JWs.) Russell revived his doctrines and
arguments and presented them as his own.

3 Some of what Russell taught regarding various
subjects important to the JW is now being denied
and/or avoided because they are clear and definite
contradictions to their own current teachings.
Those teachings by Russell reveal him as a false
prophet and unable to understand the Scriptures!
For example, Russell wrote:
The next chapter will present Bible evidence that
1874 A.D. was the exact date of the beginning of
the “Times of Restitution,” and hence of our

Lord’s return. (Study In The Scriptures, Vol. 2,
(Watch Tower Bible And Tract Society),1908 ed.,

p. 170.)
NOTE: The JWs today are teaching that 1914 was
the Lord’s return, thereby denying the “light” (really
darkness taught as light) from Russell. Also, note that
Russell stated 1874 was derived from Bible evidence.
Obviously, Russell’s Bible evidence was nonexistent
since they now teach 1914 instead of 1874.
Russell was therefore a deceiver, which is what the
Lord said false prophets are (Mt. 24:11).

Many sincere people back then were clearly deceived
by Russell’s Bible evidence and still are today
in other areas! That is the deceiver and man who started
the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Here are more empty
words and false teachings from him:

... likewise the forty years of the Gospel age
harvest will end October, 1914, and that likewise
the overthrow of “Christendom,” so-called, must
be expected to immediately follow. “In one hour”
judgment shall come upon her.—Rev. 18:10, 17,

19. (ibid., p. 245)
Russell was a deluded, yet convincing false
teacher. It should be apparent he was darkness, not
“light,” not a “righteous man,” but a spokesman for the
devil, who has stumbled millions over the years. Russell
even went outside of the Bible to the Great Pyramid
for his weird and lethal doctrines:


... the Great Pyramid of Egypt is one of God’s
Witnesses (Isa. 19:19,20), whose wonderful message
is a full and complete corroboration of God’s
plan of the ages, together with its times and seasons.
(ibid., p. 366)

Isa. 19:19,20 has nothing to do with the Great
Pyramid. Here is what that passage says:

In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in
the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the LORD
at its border. It will be a sign and witness to the
LORD Almighty in the land of Egypt. When they
cry out to the LORD because of their oppressors,
he will send them a savior and defender, and he
will rescue them.

For more strange Russell statements exalting the
importance of the Great Pyramid, click here and read
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/IMG_0742.JPG
(They are found on what would be pp. 374,375 in vol.
2 of the Studies In The Scriptures.)


4 The JWs are constantly telling others about the
1,000 year reign of Christ of perfect peace on paradise
earth. WHY? They wrongly think that is
preaching “the good news of the kingdom.” In other
words, they think that message is the “gospel.”
When the Christian mentions that NEVER in the
book of Acts—not even one time—did any of the
Apostles (Peter, Paul, etc.) or other disciples like
Stephen, Philip, etc. ever mention the 1,000 year reign
of Christ as they spread the gospel, the JWs are speechless
and exposed. The JWs are spreading “another
gospel,” which has no power to save anyone. That is a
FACT and a death-blow to their chief, central message.
That is also the rotten fruit from their own Governing
Body in Brooklyn, NY.

The real preaching of “the good news of the kingdom”
is related to spreading the true plan of salvation,
which brings eternal life and which they also deny one
can have now! The plan of salvation is shown in detail,
in part and/or by inference dozens of times in the Book
of Acts. It is concisely stated in Acts 20:21:

I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that
they must turn to God in repentance and have
faith in our Lord Jesus.

That is the message which sets the sin-slave free

and brings eternal life, because then and then only does
a person “have the Son,” as mentioned in 1 John 5:12,
13, etc.

The JWs are under the dangerous delusion that
taking in (accurate) “knowledge,” as defined by the
Watchtower Society, is related to getting eternal life!
(Eternal life to them is simply living forever on Paradise
earth. They know nothing about eternal life NOW,
this side of the grave, through instant salvation.)


5 JWs often deny what others accurately say
about them so they don’t have to deal with it! They
say something like, We don’t believe that! Or We
don’t teach that! Or I don’t see your point! That is,
in part, how they were trained by their leaders in
Brooklyn. That is part of their war strategy. In other
words, at times they are taught to lie and deceive! Here
is how they define a lie in their own literature:
Lying generally involves saying something false
to a person who is entitled to know the truth ....
(Aid To Bible Understanding, Watch Tower Bible
And Tract Society, 1971, p. 1060.)

If you are an enemy of the JW false gospel you
are not entitled to know the truth from them, if you
make a point they can’t deal with. We have seen this
even when exact quotes and full documentation are
supplied. Shocking, but true! Such Watchtower robots
are sealing their own damnation by closing their eyes
to such evidence.

Some JWs even think any evidence, even from a
non-credible source, is sufficient backing for their
point. Anything will do, as long as it aligns itself with
what the Watchtower literature says. Hence, many remain
blind followers of the blind.

In conclusion: Many JWs were never saved, yet
some were. They are all lost now and refuse to come to
JESUS for the living water and salvation he holds out
to all (John 4:10; 5:39,40; etc). They claim they “have
the Son” yet they don’t claim to have the eternal life
now which goes with having the Son. They also can’t
look to and trust Jesus for their salvation, since they
even have another Jesus. All that is what a false prophet
does to their victims.


EvangelicalOutreach.Org


PO Box 265 Washington PA 15301

read it here: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovah-witness-facts.pdf





more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:19am On May 29, 2016
brocab:
huh Like always nothing you say makes sense.
Lie Lie dolphinheart is so confused. Lies against the truth and causing strife do that to one

Jas 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
Jas 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Jas 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:06am On May 29, 2016
dolphinheart:
it has been proving to you that you keep adjusting your allegations.
you could not post the post and tell us where I said so .
It is also noted by everyone that you could not respond to scriptures posted to you on that thread !
dolphinheart:
can you imagine!, he started with one allegation, saying I said something, told him to show where I said so, he must have gone back to check it, knew his allegations are false , he now came back to adjust the allegations.
dolphinheart:
well, you had been lying before Johnny joined you. You cannot come out to say this is what I said, even when johnw74 provided you with supposed evidence. johnw74, on the other hand keep changing the words he claimed I said.
concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:
dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.
Lie Lie dolphinheart
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:03am On May 29, 2016
goodnews201668:
One God?
Yet one is giving the other authority?
Na waoo, by the way john 1:1 didn't say they are one God.
John 1:1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word,and[b][/b] the Word was with God[b][/b], and the Word was God.

Two different persons, the word was with God. Can he be with God and still be the same God?
If the article didn't encourage you to study the matter, then neither can I.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:36am On May 28, 2016
brocab:
JW's are all the same, without them having the spirit of God, what more can I say? They argue over words they don't even understand, their own blindness allows them to only see what isn't there.
I have had arguments with dolphinheart myself over scriptures, his own blindness won't allow him to go any further with the word of God.
JW's can't see the scriptures the way the Spirit of God shows us.
Dolphinheart is like a broken record he will find every verses he could find, that he believes it sounds-he doesn't understand what the Lord shows us.

He is actually turning the word of God up side down, every verse we have given him, he finds another that sounds sightly different and sits on it, calling us lairs because we have given to him 'what God had given to us.
Under false pro-tenses, he is actually calling the word a lie. If he knew the word of God as he makes himself out he does, then his rotten fruit wouldn't stand out in the open so much as it does now.

These JW's haven't a clue who's speaking the truth, half of them wouldn't even believe dolphinheart, if you look at their fruit, most of them are trying to take scriptures from the KJV rather then take scriptures from their own NWT bible. The reason to that is" they don't believe in their own bible, because they have scriptures written in their, that proves their Jehovah God is actually Jesus.
smiley The more false jw lies that are exposed, the more they call out "LIAR"
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 28, 2016
goodnews201668:
1 Corinthians 15:24-28New International Version (NIV)

24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, [/b]it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.[b]

28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
You have to understand that they are one God, God is one,
and you have to understand that they are two persons,concerning John 1:1
I won't say more on the matter than that, with the disbelievers that frequent this place,
don't give your pearls to the dogs etc.
also others explain things much better than I.

theres plenty of good explanations given with scripture backing if you want to read them

here is one: https://carm.org/religious-movements/jehovahs-witnesses/john-11-word-was-god

brocab, you will like this, a good read:
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:33am On May 28, 2016
brocab:
How good are you Johnw74 and lets watch dolphinheart lie against this one.
Yeah he did lie and twist all over the place , captivator was happy to support him in his lies,
they are truly satans disciples as per John 8:44
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
dolphinheart:
READERS SHOULD PLS NOTE THAT HE HAS ADJUSTED THE ALLEGATIONS!
what he stated I said before is different from what he stated I said now!
ummm, the subject is did dolphinheart call God and the Word a two headed god,

I showed that he did

I said he would twist and lie




Dolphinheart on God and the Word being God:


dolphinheart:
if you make jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.
Lie Lie dolphinheart
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:16am On May 28, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
lol, forget that guy . do u notice he has changed his status quo from " God and the Word are one God " TO " God and the Word are God " . since he realize he couldn't prove his former statement biblically.
I havent changed from "God and the Word are one God" at all, the two statments mean exactly the same thing, there is only one true God.

false jw loves to lie

Lie Lie captivator
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:52am On May 27, 2016
When false jw's lies are exposed they then start calling you liar
and I expose plenty of their lies.

Just look at dolphinhearts attempts to deny having said "your god is a two headed god" concerning God and the Word,
he knows as clearely as I do that he said it, but Lie Lie dolphinheart twists away so as not having to truth up.

And barristter who quoted my post of bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to the post,
afterwards he denied calling the Bible verses lies,
duh why would he post the quote if he just wanted to say Lie Lie John to me, he has done that plenty of times before, but Lie Lie barristter loves to lie

And Lie Lie captivator jumping in to support his fellow false jw's in their lies, and calling out Liar himself as the false jw accusers love to do.



Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:40am On May 27, 2016
brocab:
For me I believe you, but If you can find it, show it, too shut him up. Lets see dolphinheart once more in Action, lying to the public.
Here it is:

Here is the first post in the thread https://www.nairaland.com/3051431/jesus-christ-god#44743007

As you can see the thread is titled "Jesus Christ is God"
and as you can see the opening post is an Exegesis of John 1:1

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The thread is about John 1:1, the Word being God, which I also said in post two
the OP and myself are agreeing with John 1:1 that God and the Word are both God, two persons one God,
it's always been my belief.

dolphinheart said in post four "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God"
and that is referring to my God, "God and the Word" John 1:1
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:00am On May 27, 2016
brocab:
For me I believe you, but If you can find it, show it, too shut him up. Lets see dolphinheart once more in Action, lying to the public.
Finding it won't shut him up, he will just twist away and lie, you know that,

But ok I will look for it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:43am On May 27, 2016
Barristter07:
johnw74



enough of this rant , prove that I post a lie ? you no get!
cheesy grin

Lie Lie John
score
false jw lies = so very very many

johnw74 lies = not one smiley

wow I'm so far ahead

more false jw Lies coming

Lie Lie barristter
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:01am On May 27, 2016
Lie Lie captivator

more lies from false jw:

Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies


The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct Biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom.

If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's Word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature.

Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21).

by Matt Slick

some false jw's false prophecies listed at this link,
Continue reading ...https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies



more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 27, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
Many religious groups have made "prophecies"--actually, predictions--of things that would occur, some even giving specific dates. These include Lutherans, Baptists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians, Mormons, Assemblies of God, the Anglican Church, Catholics, and more. Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only group who have ever made predictions based on their understanding of Bible text that proved to be wrong. However, many lay more blame on Jehovah's Witnesses then any other religious group due to the fact that they hate us, thinking of us as a unorthodox.
Some argue that Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten too specific, choosing certain dates as the return of Christ. To them, this is what characterizes us as a cult? Well, look at three people who predicted times for the return of Christ who are well respected religious leaders.
"1836 [will be] the end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan."
-John Wesley Wesley's Notes of the Bible , written throughout his life, 1703-1791
"I sincerely believe that the Lord draweth nigh. We may have another year, maybe two years, to work for Jesus Christ, and, Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe it is all going to be over ... two years and it’s all going to be over."
-Billy Graham, 1950 at a rally in Los Angeles, California
"Christ has given a sign by which one can know when the Judgment Day is near. When the Turk will have an end, we can certainly predict that the Judgment must be at the door."
-Martin Luther

[size=27] Martin Luther, Billy Graham, and John Wesley were not false prophets. They did make predictions based on their interpretation of the Bible that turned out to not be true but that does not make them guilty of false prophecy. They are guilty, though, of making these things seem as if they were without a doubt. [/size]


Jehovah's Witnesses, on the other hand have always told people that their interpretations of events could be wrong.
"We are not prophesying; we are merely giving our surmises . . . We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. We have merely laid these before you, leaving it for each to exercise his own faith or doubt in respect to them."
-Regarding 1914: Zion's Watch Tower, January 1, 1908, page 4110

"The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year."
-Regarding 1925: The Watch Tower, January 1, 1925, page 3



"'What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?' asked Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. [size=28] But we are not saying. [/size] All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don’t any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975.'"
-The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631
Hey, keep fooling yourself, someone might believe you
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
CAPTIVATOR:
can you now see that u are just a pathetic liar ?
all Lie Lie captivator can do is accuse off what is true of him

johnw74:
Ha ha, Lie Lie captivator, all false jw can do is twist and Lie Lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:04am On May 27, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
Are they interpreting Bible prophecy or claim to be an INSPIRED prophet ?
What do you mean they, you are false prophets, the sites below will show you, do read them.


Lie Lie captiivator

read about this evil as well, there is more on this and false prophets at those sites.

Watchtower Child Abuse Policies

Watchtower is coming under increasing scrutiny for how they have dealt with pedophiles by the media and courts. This includes an Australian Royal Commission in 2015 finding Watchtower procedures to be out of date and damaging to victims, $13.5 million awarded to Lopez in 2014, and the 2012 case Candice Jane Doe vs Watchtower resulting in a judgement against Watchtower to pay $2.8 million dollars in damages. This article explains Watchtower policy regarding child abuse, and how these policies have provided protection for known pedophiles to continue offending within congregations.

continue reading: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophilia.php


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more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:52am On May 27, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
Lie Lie John. referenced to John NOT Bible, are u the bible ? or why cant u comprehend with your God given brain ?
Ha ha, Lie Lie captivator, all false jw can do is twist and Lie Lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:49am On May 27, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
Daniel 12:4 makes it clear that at the end of the days , the knowledge of truth will become many. increased knowledge often requires adjusted understanding. which is why I commend Jehovahs Witnesses for willing to change if they discover yheir understanding is not fully scriptural. thats Humility . an evidence of been guided by Gods spirit.


Hellfire , Immortal soul and Trinity has been shown to be scripturally false, yet ur churches find it hard to let go of this FALSE teachings received from The Catholic Church , can u now see the hypocrites ?
giving false prophecy and then changing it to another false prophecy when the event never happened is not adjusting understanding,
you do lie, the false jw's are false prophets, false everything.

@bold, yes we have seen the pharisee jw hypocrites all along
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:38am On May 27, 2016
CAPTIVATOR:
Use your brain, he said Lie Lie John, NOT lie lie Bible . he made reference to you
ha ha, false jw lies all over the place
Lie Lie barristter made reference to my post of bible verses, theres no other reason he would quote it
and then say Lie Lie john about my post

false jw loves to lie and support each other in their lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:34am On May 27, 2016
dolphinheart:
when someone wants to lie or defend a lie, the bolded words will Come up.
They will never categorically say " this is what I said and this is where and how I said it"
they are sure of what I said and where I said, but when asked to produce facts, they are now fomulating probabilities.
imagine saying I said something from a conversation that you are not sure of!
oh I am very sure, and so are you

Lie Lie dolphinheart
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:21am On May 27, 2016
Lie Lie dolphinheart


more lies from false jw:


Dishonesty within JW.org Website

Watchtower is using jw.org to present a whitewashed image to the public, garnering trust through presentation of an attractive and professional looking layout, yet its' feature articles are filled with dishonest and misleading information.

read here: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/jw-org-website.php



Even children are subject to comments designed to extract their money through guilt. The following images from the 2015 cartoon Be Generous encourages children to show generosity to Jehovah by donating pocket money at the kingdom hall, rather than spend it on ice-cream.

https://www.jwfacts.com/images/sophia-icecream-2015.jpg
https://www.jwfacts.com/images/sophia-donating-2015.jpg
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Wow, Lie Lie barristter, and Lie Lie dolphinheart, and Lie Lie captivator,
you are confirming over and over that Jesus in that verse is speaking off pharisee jw.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:46pm On May 26, 2016
Lie Lie barristter


here are more lies from false jw:

Favourite Watchtower Quotes

Watchtower has made an incredible range of audacious statements over the years. For instance:

“If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.” Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
Or compare the difference when referring to people who want to join Jehovah's Witnesses, with those that leave:

“No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” Awake! 2009 Jul p.29
“Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.” Watchtower Study Edition 2013 Jan 15 p.16
Here are some of my favourite.

Continue reading ...http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/favourite-quotes.php



more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
johnw74:
God and the Word is God

dolphinheart:
your god is a two headed god


and now dolphinheart says he didn't call God and the Word "a two headed god"

what a phony

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

@underline, the pharasee along with satan were part of Jesus' murder

Lie Lie dolphinheart
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:59pm On May 26, 2016
Barristter07:
johnw74



enough of this rant , prove that I post a lie ? you no get!
cheesy grin

Lie Lie John
Lie Lie barristter you lie every time that you say I lied


again for the blinded, Lie Lie barrister posted my quote of Bible verses and then replied Lie Lie John to it
if he wasn't referring to my post then why did he quote it

Lie Lie barristter cannot help but Lie Lie
Truth couldn't be proved to Lie Lie barristter who has been blinded
you have proved that yourself in your inability to see the truth
smiley


johnw74:
Lie Lie barristter rejected my honest explanation because he has been blinded and cannot see truth








You posted my quote of Bible verses and replied Lie Lie John to it
but Lie lie barristter loves to continue lying.

score
false jw lies = so so many

johnw74 lies = not one smiley

even it it was one, which isn't, wow I'm so far ahead

more false jw Lie Lie tomorrow
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:32pm On May 26, 2016
Barristter07:
johnw74,



but I got prove that u lied, u know ? loser

- 1. no disciple ever told our Lord Jesus Christ that look out they are trying to trap you, its a lie by one lie lie John.

- 2. You also lied that u never said it was in the bible. whereas I got solid proof of you telling readers to check translations for ur lie. we search translations and it wasnt found ; D hehehe.


johnw74 actually is a fraud. he thinks his lie will be in the bible thats why he tell me to go and search the translations for it
only for him to realise he has entered OnE Chance. grin
Lie Lie barristter rejected my honest explanation because he has been blinded and cannot see truth





Barristter07:
hehehe , another lie, please quote me saying bible verses is a Lie.
You posted my quote of Bible verses and replied Lie Lie John to it
but Lie lie barristter loves to continue lying.

score
false jw lies = so so many

johnw74 lies = not one smiley

even it it was one, which isn't, wow I'm so far ahead

more false jw Lie Lie tomorrow

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