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Jozzy4:
" for us there is one God, the Father, from
whom are all things " 1 Cor 8:6 ESV

False jw jozzy, there is only one God the Father, and you left out the rest of the verse that shows that the Father and Jesus Christ are two persons in the one God, that of whom and by whom are all things:

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Also:

the Father (theos) means: a diety, especially the supreme Divinity, God

one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios) means: supreme in authority, God

some will also know that there are many lord's,
but Jesus there is called "one" Lord Jesus Christ


Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Or it could be said:
One God, one faith, one baptism, Lord and God in these verses both = God

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


There is the father (theos God)

There is one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios God)




Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
You mean there is no difference, see your life.

humans will be ressurected To heaven to share in the divine nature of God , does it mean this humans will become Almighty Gods ? 2 pet 1:4

Lie Lie jozzy

zodiak is talking about God's nature and Divine nature,
and of course there is no difference, it's the same nature.


of course false jw jozzy who loves to lie - twist things around all over the place and say's:

"does it mean this humans will become Almighty Gods ? 2 pet 1:4"

Sharing in God's divine nature is obviously not becoming almighty god's.

Duh

PEARLS FOR THE CHRISTIANS HERE


THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD


The Holy Spirit is Father God:

Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
^^^
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Father God, Father God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.



And Father God gives believers another comforter (the Word):



The Holy Spirit is the Word:

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; (Jesus is the truth) whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

@bold, Jesus is letting the Apostles know that He is the Holy Spirit: "he dwelleth with you", Jesus dwelled with the Apostles, "and shall be in you"

Jesus said:
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.



The Holy Spirit is God the Father and the Word, in other words the Holy Spirit is God - God and the Word is God:

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.



Because God and the word is God, and God is the Holy Spirit, is why Jesus can be called:

Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

In (brackets mine)

Lie Lie jozzy


false jw jozzy thinks that one verse where the Holy Spirit is referred to as "it", proves that the Holy Spirit is not personable, and he disbelieves all the very many scriptures that show the Holy spirit is a person.

jozzy, you say the Holy Spirit is a thing - a power,
but God is Holy, God is Spirit, is God a thing - a power?

ANSWER

Jozzy4:
False Teacher , Go And study personification in the scriptures , is " it " used for a person ?

Lie Lie jozzy




Bill said about Jims pet Tiger: "it eats a lot"
Bill said "it" because he didn't know what sex it was
But the Tiger is not a thing but an animal.

It could be in the same way that a writer calls the Holy spirit "it"
because spirit doesn't have sexual gender, but that's just one possibility.

Now why don't you believe all these scriptures showing that the Holy spirit
is personable and not a thing - a power.


ANSWER

johnw74:
The Holy Spirit is somewhere referred to as "it", and false jw jozzy runs with that to support his satanic doctrine that the Holy Spirit is a power, and not a person, and he ignores the many verses showing that the Holy Spirit is a person.
The Holy Spirit is not just a person, but is God, but of course he doesn't know that either.

Some verses showing that the Holy Spirit is more than just God's power, but God Himself:

The Holy Spirit searches, the Holy Spirit is God:
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
^^^
God is Spirit
@red, The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.

The Holy Spirit teaches:
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The Holy Spirit can be grieved, the Holy Spirit has sealed believers:
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
^^^
You see there @red that the Holy Spirit, is the Holy Spirit of God, God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.

The Holy Spirit can think things are good:
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

The Holy Spirit chooses to give gifts to some:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

The Holy Spirit directs activities to Christians, the Holy Spirit forbids, the Holy Spirit let (suffered) them not:
Act 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
Act 16:7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
Act 16:8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
Act 16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
Act 16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
Act 16:11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis;

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Spirit sent the three men to Peter, the Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
Act 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for [/b]I have sent them.

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Ghost gives Barnabas and Saul work to do, The Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

The Holy Spirit talks, The Holy Spirit's voice is called "His" voice:
Heb 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

The Holy Spirit talks:
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

The Holy Spirit talks, the Holy Spirit is called "He", the Holy Spirit guides and shows you things to come:
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus, and is called "He":
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The Holy Spirit gives us words to speak in times of need:
Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Spirit can be lied to:
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?




Of course false jw cannot know the Holy Spirit, He is not in them, neither does God know them.

Luk_13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


Lie Lie jozzy

goodnews201668:
They're mocking you not because you're doing the right thing, but because you're confused! Jesus never claimed to be God!

saying:
you are confused,
you are a liar,
etc etc, is funny coming from false jw.

Jozzy4:
The KJV said holyspirit is "IT" Numbers 11:17 , fight it

The Holy Spirit is somewhere referred to as "it", and false jw jozzy runs with that to support his satanic doctrine that the Holy Spirit is a power, and not a person, and he ignores the many verses showing that the Holy Spirit is a person.
The Holy Spirit is not just a person, but is God, but of course he doesn't know that either.

Some verses showing that the Holy Spirit is more than just God's power, but God Himself:

The Holy Spirit searches, the Holy Spirit is God:
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
^^^
God is Spirit
@red, The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.

The Holy Spirit teaches:
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The Holy Spirit can be grieved, the Holy Spirit has sealed believers:
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
^^^
You see there @red that the Holy Spirit, is the Holy Spirit of God, God is Spirit, the Holy Spirit is God.

The Holy Spirit can think things are good:
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

The Holy Spirit chooses to give gifts to some:
1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

The Holy Spirit directs activities to Christians, the Holy Spirit forbids, the Holy Spirit let (suffered) them not:
Act 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
Act 16:7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
Act 16:8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
Act 16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
Act 16:10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
Act 16:11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next day to Neapolis;

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Spirit sent the three men to Peter, the Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
Act 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for [/b]I have sent them.

The Holy Spirit speaks, the Holy Ghost gives Barnabas and Saul work to do, The Holy Spirit calls Himself "I":
Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

The Holy Spirit talks, The Holy Spirit's voice is called "His" voice:
Heb 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

The Holy Spirit talks:
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

The Holy Spirit talks, the Holy Spirit is called "He", the Holy Spirit guides and shows you things to come:
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The Holy Spirit glorifies Jesus, and is called "He":
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The Holy Spirit gives us words to speak in times of need:
Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Spirit can be lied to:
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?




Of course false jw cannot know the Holy Spirit, He is not in them, neither does God know them.

Luk_13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
False teacher ... Jesus, the Word is not Gods spirit

Duh

johnw74:
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was mad

"the Spirit of God made me"
"the Word made all things"

The Spirit of God is the Word of God
you have no understanding at all
and you don't believe the Bible.


Lie Lie jozzy



Score update:

Jozzy4 lies = never ending

johnw74 lies = 0

brocab:
KJV {Numbers 11:17} the Holy Spirit is given to other members of Moses tribe so they can share in the burdens together, In your NWT Bible "IT" is describe as the Holy Spirit. You should watch what you say when describing to Spirit of God, do you call the Son and the Father an "IT" too?

Jesus said:
Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

But of course Lie lie jozzy doesn't believe the Bible
he has a different bible (and believes the watchtower), and a different jesus (an angel), and a different holy spirit (impersonal)

Lie Lie jozzy



more lies from false jw:

It is only by studying the WATCHTOWER magazine and kindred publications that they can get the needed life--giving knowledge. There is no other source. (Informant, July 1940, p. 2)

NOTE: To believe only the Watchtower Society can correctly teach the Bible, as they teach the gullible Jehovah's Witnesses, is to also cause the individual Jehovah's Witness to thereby disregard all correction from Christians, since the Christians are not spreading Watchtower teachings! It is a win win situation for the dangerous Watchtower Society and a lose lose situation for the individual Jehovah's Witness, who is in dire need of eternal life

keep reading here: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm


https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/bound-to-jw-taking-in-knowledge-click.jpg




more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Jozzy4:
The holyspirit was personified in those scriptures man.

@ Numbers 11:17,, the holyspirit is identified as " IT " so get sense.

Lie Lie jozzy




We know you don't know that the Holy spirit is God, how could you, you are false jw
we know you don't believe the Bible, you are false jw


Acts 5:3-4, “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”

Heb 3:7 Wherefore as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

There are many more but believers already know, and Lie Lie jozzy will never know.

Jozzy4:
Only a deceiver will say the Word ( Jesus christ ) is Gods spirit. False teacher

Lie Lie jozzy




Of course you don't know that the Word Jesus Christ is God's Spirit, how could you, you are false jw
of course you don;t believe the Bible, we know that, you are false jw

The Spirit of God hath made me
who made me?
the Word Jesus Christ

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was mad


Lie Lie jozzy, by your own words you are a deceiver and false teacher, but we have long known that

goodnews201668:
See who's talking, you that doesn't even know who Jesus is. Jesus is son, father, holy spirit and Almighty according to you guys, continue.
No wonder atheist even mock you people!

solite3:
should atheist be praising me before, let me tell you it takes one who has the holy Spirit to say Jesus is Lord. If atheist start to praise me without coming to Christ then something is wrong with me.

solite you must be doing something right to be mocked by non believers, it says something about you if you are mocked, but the blind cannot see that.

atheists and pharisess jw's of old, and other sectarians and believers in a false Christ
mocked Jesus to.

Mat_20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Mar_10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.

johnw74:
God and the Word, is the Holy spirit

CAPTIVATOR:
, remain in your blindness ... the bold said it all

Jozzy4:
Blindness @ bold

Pro_14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.



Christians know that the Holy Spirit is God
Christians know that God and the word is God

false jw will never know.

Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible.

God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17... "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."


Jesus SAID in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."


The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2... "Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."


Each Person of the Godhead was Operative in the Old Testament.

The Father — Isaiah 64:8, “But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.”


Jesus — 1st Corinthians 10:1-4, 9, “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: AND THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.”


The Holy Ghost — Hebrews 3:7-11, “Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved ME, and saw MY WORKS forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, they shall not enter into my rest.)”
From the very first chapter in the Bible, God makes it known that He consists of more than one Person--

Genesis 1:26-27, “And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him.”

Genesis 3:22, “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...”

When Isaiah had a vision of the Lord sitting upon a throne, the Lord asked him a question…

Isaiah 6:8, “Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me.”

In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son (Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit (Isaiah 40:13, 2nd Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, et cetera). We also find that the LORD [Jesus] said that the LORD [God the Father] would send Him to the earth (Zechariah 2:10,11).


Didn’t the Trinity Teaching Originate in Pagan Religion?

Some false teachers today are claiming that the Biblical doctrine of the Godhead (Trinity) has it’s origin in pagan religion. This is not true at all. The fact of the matter is that Christianity predates ALL known religions. We read in Genesis 15:6 that Abram (Abraham) “believed in the LORD; and he [Jesus] counted it to him for righteousness.” Abraham lived around 2,000 B.C. It was the heathens who tried to imitate and corrupt genuine Christianity. This has always been Satan’s dirty game.

John 8:44 and John 10:10 tell us that the Devil is a big liar who comes only to kill, steal and destroy lives. Only a woefully ignorant person would dare claim that Christianity didn’t exist before the time Christ was born into the world. History and archaeology document that Old Testament Israel very much awaited and centered their religious beliefs around the coming Messiah. It was because of earlier prophecies that the 3-wise men journeyed from the east (likely from Babylon) to witness the birth of the Savior, Jesus, in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2). Is the Trinity "Pagan?"


Conclusion

The modern Bible perversions take out the word, "Godhead" and they attack the deity of Jesus Christ. One man told me that it was difficult for him to understand the deity of Jesus Christ while he read the New International Version (NIV). Once he changed over to the King James Bible, it was abundantly clear. This is no surprise to me.

To no surprise, the NIV oftentimes agrees with the Jehovah's (false) Witness’ New World Translation (NWT) in the verses it deletes. In fact, EVERY complete verse that the NIV deletes is deleted in the NWT. It also deletes many of the same words and phrases including 1st John 5:7.

The precious and trustworthy King James Bible teaches that there is ONE God, Who exists as a Godhead. It may not make good math; but it makes good Bible. We don’t need to comprehend or even partially understand the mystery of the Godhead to be saved, we simply need to come as a guilty sinner to the cross of Calvary and trust upon the blessed Son of God to wash away our sins with His redeeming blood (1st Peter 1:18,19).

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/god_is_a_trinity.htm

Someone has said that "BIBLE" in acronym forms means:

B = Basic
I = Instructions
B = Before
L = Leaving
E = Earth

I like that. Too many people refuse to accept God at His Word and continually put God on trial in their mind. Can anyone really explain how ONE individual can exist in three Persons? I don’t see how. Some Bible-teachers like to use the fact that humans are composed of body, soul and spirit; but we are still one person; not three. This is not a good example of the Godhead. I can’t give you a good example, and won’t try. God is God and we don’t have to figure out how to describe Him to an unsaved world of Christ-rejecters. To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who believe not, no explanation is possible. Let us just accept God as the Bible portrays Him.

The Scriptures identify each Person of the Godhead as “God.” The word "Godhead" is a Bible word (Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9).

The Father is called God.
Romans 15:6, “That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”


Jesus is called God.
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1st Timothy 3:16

Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”

Colossians 2:9, “For in him [Jesus] dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”


The Holy Ghost is called God.
Acts 5:3-4, “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”

1st Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS manifest in the flesh, JUSTIFIED IN THE SPIRIT, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”


The Godhead and Our Salvation

God the Father sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16).
John 5:36, “But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.”


The Son was sent to be the propitiation (to appease the wrath of God) for our sins.
1st John 4:10, “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.”


The Holy Spirit reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.
John 14:26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

John 15:26, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.”


More Scriptures Testifying of the Godhead

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." —Matthew 28:19,20

"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him [Jesus], and a voice came from heaven [God the Father], which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." —Luke 3:22

Biblical Evidence for the Godhead

By David J. Stewart

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE." —1st John 5:7

The Bible, God’s Word, proclaims that there is ONE God (Deuteronomy 6:4), Who has revealed Himself to mankind in three distinct Persons; namely, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Although the term “Trinity” is not found in the Scriptures, the word “Godhead” most certainly is — in 3 places!

Romans 1:19, 20 states…

“Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse.”

Some people (such as Muslims) foolishly claim that belief in a Godhead (aka, Trinity) means worship of three gods (polytheism). This simply reflects their woeful ignorance of the Word of God. The LORD our God is ONE Lord (Deuteronomy 6:4); but He does exist in three Persons, i.e., a Trinity.

Acts 17:29 states…

“Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”

Colossians 2:9…

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily.”

1st John 5:7 is in the Original Greek. If there were no other verse of the King James Bible testifying of the Godhead, 1st John 5:7 would be enough for any Bible-believer to know that God exists in three Persons — the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.” —1st John 5:7

Now if you have a modern corrupt bible, then you won’t find 1st John 5:7 correctly rendered. I went out and bought a literal translation of the Bible in Greek and Hebrew, based on the “Textus Receptus” (or Received Text). It contains 1st John 5:7 just as the King James Bible faithfully renders. The translators of the King James Bible rejected certain manuscripts as heretical. The manuscripts which they did accept became know as the “Received Text.”


How Can One God Exist in Three Persons?

Some people feel like they have to provide an answer for every question. Well, that’s not true. Doctors are still perplexed as to what causes the human body to sneeze; but it’s an obvious fact. Mankind’s brightest secular scientists cannot with any certainty tell us how life began, nor can they tell us how big the universe is, nor can they create even the simplest of life forms in a laboratory. It makes infinite more sense to accept the Bible’s claim that God spoke the universe into existence by the Word of His mouth (2nd Peter 3:5). Ironically, the same people who refuse to believe the Bible without proof; readily believe the bogus tales of unsaved scientists, even without as much as a single shred of credible evidence to support their claims. This clearly evidences the wickedness of man’s heart against his divine Creator.

Colossians 2:2, 9 acknowledges the Godhead as a “mystery” …

“…to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ… For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

Colossians 2:9 plainly teaches that the Godhead became incarnate in the fleshly body of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Timothy 3:16 declare the same truth…

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh…”

Jozzy4:
Blindness @ bold


ur case ehn na critical one . the spirit of God is the Word , again u said the spirit of God is holy holy spirit. so spirit of God is two ? that quaternity not trinity lolzzzzz

and if u insist its the same thing that means the Word is the holyspirit , are u now admitting the holyspirit ( the Word) became Jesus ?

Lie Lie jozzy



Following captivator is like the blind leading the blind.


The Holy Spirit is not two
the Holy Spirit is God
God is one
God, is God and the Word
God and the Word is the Holy Spirit

The rest of what you say is just more of the same old confusion and repeated lies.

You don't and cannot understand, even a thing that is so simple for Christians,
the Spirit is needed, who you don't know.

Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

Some snippets are from :http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/god_is_a_trinity.htm
some are mine.


(1st John 5:7 is in the Original Greek. If there were no other verse of the King James Bible testifying of the Godhead, 1st John 5:7 would be enough for any Bible-believer to know that God exists in three Persons — the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.” —1st John 5:7

Now if you have a modern corrupt bible, then you won’t find 1st John 5:7 correctly rendered. I went out and bought a literal translation of the Bible in Greek and Hebrew, based on the “Textus Receptus” (or Received Text). It contains 1st John 5:7 just as the King James Bible faithfully renders. The translators of the King James Bible rejected certain manuscripts as heretical. The manuscripts which they did accept became know as the “Received Text.”)



The Father is called God.
Romans 15:6, “That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”




Jesus is called God.
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1st Timothy 3:16

Again false jw say that the word "God" shouldn't be in that verse,
they are wrong and there are plenty more verses showing that jesus is God,
here is another:
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”


Colossians 2:9, “For in him [Jesus] dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”




The Holy Ghost is called God.
Acts 5:3-4, “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”




The Holy Ghost is not just God's power:
Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.





John 15:26, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.”

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.






"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." —Matthew 28:19,20

"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him [Jesus], and a voice came from heaven [God the Father], which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." —Luke 3:22

CAPTIVATOR:
, remain in your blindness ... the bold said it all

Lie Lie captivator



No, you said it all in your few words showing you haven't a clue about things of the Spirit, of course you don't know and don't believe, but for the Christians here:

God is Spirit,
and with God being God and the Word, then God and the Word is Spirit.
The Spirit of God - God and the Word, is the Holy spirit, simple for those with eyes to see.

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Many scriptures show it, but I won't continue throwing the truth before dogs and swine.

Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

double post

Lie Lie jozzy




More lies from false jw:


https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jw-beliefs-must-be-a-JW-for-everlasting-life.jpg


Only 144000 can be born again and will go to heaven. The rest of the faithful Jehovah's witnesses will live forever on paradise earth.
Jesus' Body Didn't Resurrect Jesus did NOT resurrect bodily, when he resurrected.
must be a jehovah's witness for everlasting life
Holy Spirit is an active force The Holy Spirit is referred to as holy spirit and is Jehovah's active force likened unto a radar beam - NOT a person.
Second Chance Some people will be given a second chance to accept God's ways during the 1,000 year reign of Christ.
taking in knowledge for everlasting life
Taking in knowledge, as defined by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, is the only way to get everlasting life!
Do NOT Pray To Jesus We can NOT go to Jesus in prayer for salvation and can not have eternal life at this moment. (Eternal life to them is physical life, which lasts eternally!)
must be a JW for everlasting life You must be a Jehovah's Witness to get everlasting life!
The Watchtower (God's visible organization) is God's one and only ark to survive. (See image)
watchtower alone can understand the bible Only the Watchtower Society can correctly interpret the Bible. (See image)
Clearly, the Watchtower Society has taught one can NOT understand the bible apart from their teachings, which therefore are needed to take in knowledge to get everlasting life! If you believe such LIES, you will be hooked and be under their slavish control to never escape:jehovahs witnesses answered
We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the "faithful and discreet slave" organization. (The Watchtower, 2-15-1981)
From Chile's report we read: "A special pioneer making a return visit asked the lady what book teaches us the will of God. ‘The Watchtower, of course,’ she said. Our sister proceeded to explain that it was, rather, the Bible. 'Yes, but what would I do with my recently obtained Bible if I did not use The Watchtower to understand it.?'" (1983 Yearbook of the Jehovah's Witnesses, p. 21.)
It is only by studying the WATCHTOWER magazine and kindred publications that they can get the needed life--giving knowledge. There is no other source. (Informant, July 1940, p. 2)
NOTE: To believe only the Watchtower Society can correctly teach the Bible, as they teach the gullible Jehovah's Witnesses, is to also cause the individual Jehovah's Witness to thereby disregard all correction from Christians, since the Christians are not spreading Watchtower teachings! It is a win win situation for the dangerous Watchtower Society and a lose lose situation for the individual Jehovah's Witness, who is in dire need of eternal life through the Lord Jesus Christ.

more here: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm



https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovahs-witness-false-teachings-jw.org.jpg





more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:


" the Word is the spirit of God" - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word", -,johnw74

Liarrrrrrrr, chai





" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?

Jozzy4:
He is God's spirit - johnw74


Liarrrrrrrr, chai



" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw7

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?






the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, - johnw74

why u dey lie like this ?

Jesus did say don't put your truth before the dogs and swine, didn't he.

Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Jozzy4:
I know my point is too hard for u. U commit many blunders such as the Word is Gods spirit, and my question is : if the Word is Gods holyspirit, are u now saying the holyspirit became Jesus ?

Answer!!!!

Lie Lie jozzy



Of course the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit
God is God and the word
God is Spirit
God and the word is Spirit
God and the word is the Holy Spirit

These simple truths of the Spirit, cannot be understood by sectarians and other non believers.

johnw74:
Job_33:4 The Spirit of God (the Word) hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

1Co_3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God (the Holy Spirit) dwelleth in you?

In (brackets) mine, things are spelt out and false jw still doesn't see-believe it

Jozzy4:
How can a sane Christian say the Word is the spirit of God ( holyspirit) ? a statement depicting lack of proper knowledge

Lie Lie jozzy


you have no knowledge at all of things of the Spirit
nor can you have.

Lie Lie jozzy





" the Word is the spirit of God" - johnw74

Liarrrrrrrr, chai - Jozzy4


" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

why u dey lie like this ? - Jozzy4


He is God's spirit - johnw74

Liarrrrrrrr, chai




Job_33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.






the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit - johnw74

why u dey lie like this ? - Jozzy4




1Co_2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1Co_3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?



1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

^^^ that verse is talking about false jw jozzy

brocab:
The JW's started lying from the beginning of creation of their church.

Yes right from the beginning, and they haven't altered from that path.

The Bible again speaks off false jw here, along with other sectarians and non believers:

2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Lie Lie jozzy


here are more of satans church, false jw lies for you:


Jehovah's Witnesses Beliefs

So what have they been taught and what are Jehovah's Witnesses spreading to others? Besides (correctly) believing in the virgin birth like Catholics do, some examples of the Jehovah's Witnesses weird and dangerous unscriptural teachings are:
1914 Gospel The gospel is that the kingdom was established in the heavenlies in 1914.
Jehovah's witnesses beliefs on Jesus Jesus, Michael The Archangel Jesus is only a god and Michael the archangel, the first and greatest creation of Jehovah God.
No Hell Hell is the grave, where the dead rest unconscious awaiting a resurrection.
man is a soul Man is a soul.
baptism To qualify for baptism one must understand Jehovah's Witness beliefs.
Jesus became the Christ at age 30 Jesus became the Christ after his baptism at the age of 30, NOT at his birth! (See image below.) In contrast to the Watchtower, the Bible says JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST!
But the angel said to them [the shepherds], "Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David A SAVIOR HAS BEEN BORN TO YOU; HE IS CHRIST the Lord." (Luke 2:10,11)
Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that HE WOULD NOT DIE BEFORE HE HAD SEEN THE LORD'S CHRIST. Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying: "Sovereign Lord, as you have promised, YOU NOW DISMISS YOUR SERVANT IN PEACE. FOR MY EYES HAVE SEEN YOUR SALVATION," (Luke 2:25-30)

contunue reading: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm



https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jw-beliefs-Jesus-became-Christ.jpg




more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

There are many forms of lying,
one of false jw jozzy's is to misquote what others say,
adding to and taking away from a quote is lying,
but he wouldn't be aware of that, as lying comes naturally to false jw

Joh_1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.


Score update

false jw lies = it must be hundreds by now, anyone counting

johnw74 lies = 0

Jozzy4:
someone earlier said to cover a lie, more lies have to be told . thats so true and beginning to see your true color.

you admit Jesus is the Word, only for you to deny this again simply because u know the consequence of your statement. and am suprised ur fellows cant correct u with this nonsense u are spewing, the Word is Gods spirit but Jesus is flesh and blood. u are now trying to separate the Word from Jesus christ ? u are a damn liar .


LET me tell you more :

going by your analogy , if the Word is Gods spirit .. you are actually saying Gods spirit ( holyspirit) became Jesus , do u know ?


this is the height of blindness

false jw jozzy is just saying the same lies as before, he twists and misquotes, and adds to and takes away from what is said, in other words he uses all the forms of lying known.




he has no understanding at all

blind as a bat

but more than that, false jw just love to lie


@red, He also talks about himself a lot.



Lie Lie jozzy

Wow, such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all his posts




Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
buhahahahaha , if you now admit that Jesus is the Word , why do u now lied uv never mentioned Jesus when u mentioned the Word ?

I have never said Jesus is not the word, and you cannot post a quote where I did, that's another lie from Lie Lie jozzy

I never mentioned Jesus (flesh and blood) I mentioned the word (Spirit) that's what I was talking about,
the Word became flesh, but you cannot understand and so call out liar like a good little false jw.

Jozzy4:
now its official, you declare Jesus Christ is the Word . so That means Jesus Christ is Gods spirit ?

Lie Lie jozzy, I have always said the Word became Jesus Christ, as for Jesus Christ being God's Spirit, I wouldn't discuss it with false jw who hasn't a clue and cannot have because he has been blinded through unbelief.

Jozzy4:
Johnw74 is a chronic liar

Lie Lie jozzy


Yet you cannot show a single lie.

Jozzy4:


" the Word is the spirit of God" - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word", -,johnw74

Liarrrrrrrr, chai

No lie there at all, that's perfectly true

Jozzy4:


" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?

Again no lie there at all, that's perfectly true

Jozzy4:
see lie,

I never said Jesus is the Holy Spirit
I said the Word is the Holy Spirit
It's not to do with Jesus being the Word
I was correcting your misquoting me all through these posts

Jozzy4:
Liarrrrrrrr, chai

I said the word is God's Spirit, no lie there.

Jozzy4:
why u dey lie like this ? @ underlined

No lie, again I was correcting your misquoting

Jozzy4:
" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

Explained below :

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?

Lie Lie jozzy


Of course the word is the Spirit of God, look at scripture I posted, < that was silly, telling false jw to look at the scriptures
Of course Jesus Christ is the Word, read John 1
Of course the spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, who else could the Holy Spirit be, God is Holy, God is Spirit.


such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all false jw jozzy's posts