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Jozzy4:
the Word- Jesus Christ , abi ?

Truly, He is



Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
confused johnw74



with that statement, johnw74 claim the Word is the holyspirit .

who is the Word ?



https://www.nairaland.com/2010346/jesus-really-god/13 .


confession . on top all your denial

You so confused, everyone even false jw know that Jesus Christ is the Word, duh
like I said you don't understand anything


Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
the Word is spirit , Jesus is flesh and blood. see how this liar twists a simple statement. lol, who is the Word ?

Lie Lie jozzy



The word is the Spirit of God as shown in scriptures earlier
The Word (Spirit) was made (flesh and blood) Jesus Christ

Like I said you have no understanding at all

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

johnw74:
Like I said you have no understanding at all, and cannot have without the Holy Spirit.

Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
phony lie lie , lol The Word is now different from Jesus ?

Like I said you have no understanding at all, and cannot have without the Holy Spirit.

Lie Lie jozzy

johnw74:
To start with you need to know that the Word is Spirit, and Jesus is flesh and blood, I haven't even mentioned Jesus here, but that doesn't matter to you who misquotes all over the place, liars do that.





false jw cannot ever admit to a wrong

the truth is as I said and according to the verse, that the Lord and His Spirit sent Isaiah


jozzy said the Lord Jehovah sent Isaiah through His Spirit
but the Lord Jehovah is Spirit
so jozz is saying the lord Jehovah sent Isaiah through the lord Jehovah


I was going to say Just believe the bible, but he won't do that, he need to change it all over the place to suit his false doctrines.


"the Lord and His Spirit in isaiah 48:16 is God and the Word"




In (brackets) is mine
Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit (God and the Word), hath sent me.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me (God and the Word) in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (God and the Word), and the Word was God.



Lie Lie jozzy

Lie Lie jozzy



more lies from false jw:


JWs Falsely Claim To Be In The Truth (PDF print free tract)

jehovahs witnesses politics The Jehovah's Witnesses who come to our doors and who are seen on the streets holding up their magazines are victims and slaves of the Watchtower Society. They have bought into the single lie that God's truth can only be found through the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's materials. Because the Jehovah's Witnesses have been deceived with that single concept they, therefore, rely solely on materials from the Watchtower Society for the correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible. They also think, by doing that, they are taking in knowledge for everlasting life! (NOTE: it was the Watchtower who taught the Jehovah's Witnesses that only the Watchtower can correctly interpret the Scriptures!)

read more: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm


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more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Jozzy4:
Jesus is Gods spirit .... another error from johnw74, how can someone say Jesus is holyspirit ?

I never said "Jesus is God's Spirit"

and I never said "Jesus is the Holy Spirit"

Even though the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, and God and the Word is God, I certinally wouldn't discuss such matters with false jw who don't have any understanding at all of things of the spirit.


but when jozzy is misquoting which is lying, he is at his best,
he is doing what comes naturally to him.



Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
hahahahahaha, See what removing Gods name from the bible did to johnw74.

isa 48:16 " and now the sovereign Lord Jehovah himself has sent me, even his spirit " .,. Isaiah testify that Jehovah sent him through his spirit !

it didnt say Jesus is Gods spirit as u said

To start with you need to know that the Word is Spirit, and Jesus is flesh and blood, I haven't even mentioned Jesus here, but that doesn't matter to you who misquotes all over the place, liars do that.





false jw cannot ever admit to a wrong

the truth is as I said and according to the verse, that the Lord and His Spirit sent Isaiah


jozzy said the Lord Jehovah sent Isaiah through His Spirit
but the Lord Jehovah is Spirit
so jozz is saying the lord Jehovah sent Isaiah through the lord Jehovah


I was going to say Just believe the bible, but he won't do that, he need to change it all over the place to suit his false doctrines.


"the Lord and His Spirit in isaiah 48:16 is God and the Word"




In (brackets) is mine
Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit (God and the Word), hath sent me.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me (God and the Word) in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (God and the Word), and the Word was God.



Lie Lie jozzy

zodiakzax:
okay read and lemme know what you think. I bet we will understand eachothe there.

There are those who see it diffrently to me zax, I don't know what is the most popular scenario.

Here is another short read that I think is similar to the read at the link you gave:

http://www.equip.org/article/who-is-wisdom-in-proverbs-8/

But we won't discuss it here, you know how phony jw interject with falsehoods.

Jozzy4:
bookmarked. its on record that u said the Word (Jesus ) is Gods spirit ( holyspirit)

got ya.

phony jw, I said exactly what the bible verse said, which you obviously don't believe:

quote johnw74: "the Word is not created, He is God's Spirit"

Isa_48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

By the way you added to, and took away from what I said, so you also get a new name


Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
john, the Word is Gods spirit ? do u mean Jesus is Gods holy spirit ?

johnw74:
I won't say more here at this thread, but that gives you something to study on.

fancy thinking I would give pearls to phony jozzy or to any false jw

zodiakzax:
you didn't answer my question. I believe none of us wrote the Bible here, in fact it doesn't matter what my brother Johnw74 thinks, it doesn't even matter what I think. What matters is the truth so answer my question and stop talking nonsense. And besides we are not like you guys, if am wrong he can simply tell me what he thinks and give me his reasons and I will also do my research to see if it's true. Any reasonable person who wants the truth will do that. In any ways you can read this if you want.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/q_wisdom_created.htm

zodiaczax, jozz probably only knows about proverbs 8:22-30 because I done a short post on it here at this forum long ago.

In proverbs 8:22 the Hebrew word "qanah" can mean create, and it can mean possess, I say possess because
it aligns with John 1:1

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

also the Word is not created, He is God's Spirit.

Isa_48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

I have no problem for the Word being created, in as much as He was made into another person, and that's what happened at that time, but the Word has always existed in God, He was set up, God bought Him forth.

Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

I won't say more here at this thread, but that gives you something to study on.

I'm going to read from that link you gave and I may learn something as well.

be of good cheer

Jozzy4:
dont mind phony

These are jozz at his best.

Jozzy4:
stop displaying ignorance here
even phony johnw74 knows proverb 8: 22-30 is talking about Jesus

Barristter07:
johnw74






You didn't say "did captivator said he worshipped angels ?"
,

I asked brocab ' did HE said he worshipped angels?

, despite the fact that its clear I represent captivator with the PRONOUN " he " . grow up.

It's not clear at all when you use "said" instead of "say" and then also leave the name "captivator" out of it

I was beginning to think it could have been a error of grammar on your part,
but with all your continued twisting, it could just be more:


Lie Lie barristter

Lie Lie barristter




https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/watchtower-magazine.jpg



The history of the Jehovah's Witnesses from its founder Charles Taze Russell on is filled with a long list of failed false prophecies, changed doctrines and ruined lives! The organization headquarters is a clear and definite example of a false prophet, a ferocious wolf in sheep's clothing: jehovah's witnesses bible new world translation
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (Mat 7:15)
jehovah's witnesses answeredHence, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is a dangerous enemy to God's truth and to SOULS! They are diabolical deceivers and have gone so far as to conveniently produce their own so-called translation of the Bible, which they call The New World Translation. The foremost feature of the Jehovah's Witness Bible is supposed to be the restoration of the divine name Jehovah, but in reality it is a dark perversion of God's word where words are changed, added or omitted to alter the meaning according to Watchtower doctrine! WARNING: Do NOT be influenced by the NWT. It is NOT reliable or consistent. It is a satanic tool and on a par with the Book of Mormon and Koran. So, is God's name Jehovah? Not according to the evidence! (Keep reading.)

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm



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more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Barristter07:
johnw74



See your life @ bold
low comprehension , because I quoted his post. Don't u see I was asking him a question?


I asked brocab a question with reference to captivator, whom I address as " he " ,

Grow Up

Lie Lie barristter



You didn't say "did captivator said he worshipped angels ?"

You said "did he said he worshipped angels ?" referring to brocab's post - which you quoted, hence brocab.

If you meant captivator, then you need to work on your grammar.

Barristter07:
Johnw74



When u dive into what doesnt concern you, na wahala.

you ignorantly in your post fail to comprehend two things

That 1. Brocab accused captivator of worshipping an angel. ( note that am not defending captivator)

Brocab said " [size=25] so you worship angels, [/size] even after God said not too "

That 2. Captivator never said so in his post.

so dear lie lie John, what exactly is ur problem ? Are u saying brocab never said he ( captivator,) worship angels ?

You so confused barr, not suprised mind you.

You asked concerning brocab: "did he said he worshipped angels ?"

you were adressing what brocab said, you quoted his post, which said:

So you believe Christ is a angel-so you worship angels, even after God said not too.




Lie Lie barristter

CAPTIVATOR:
Midnight crew, nobody asks for ur opinion. Just look at what u wrote, it doesnt make any sense, u know ?

Lie Lie captivator

brocab:
So you believe Christ is a angel-so you worship angels, even after God said not too.

Barristter07:
brocab



did he said he worshipped angels ?

johnw74:
it's very clear what brocab said, but false jw is forever twisting and disbelieving things said,
including scriptures.

Lie Lie barristter

I added a couple of thing that false jw also do, that might have thrown you cap - been your excuse to lie yet again.


Lie Lie captivator

Lie Lie barristter






more false jw lies here:


https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/kingdom-hall-sign.jpg

LEARN What The Single LIE Is That Holds The Sincere JW To The Watchtower?

What does it take to effectively answer a Jehovah's Witness (or Jahova's Witness as they say in certain parts of the world) to the place that he is shaken from his spiritual delusions? It will take exposure to God's truth plus, on the part of the Jehovah's Witness, a heart which is open to Scripture.jehovah's witness Kingdom Hall Sign Jehovah's witnesses beliefs seem to be set in stone. Many of the Jehovah's witnesses are so indoctrinated and their lives are so wrapped up with their religion that they refuse to consider the evidence which any Christian may offer, even if it comes from their own literature! They know they would lose it all if they became a Bible-defined Christian since those who leave the organization are considered apostates and shunned by others, even their own natural family members. Hence, the price seems too great for many, but not all of them. Some Jehovah's witnesses do come to salvation. Christians must try to win them to God, for they desperately need eternal life. [Eternal life is ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ (1 John 5:12,13) and NOT any organization or denomination. Eternal life is also spiritual life, which Christians have now this side of the grave before their physical death. These are true Christian beliefs.]

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm






more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

Barristter07:
brocab



did he said he worshipped angels ?

it's very clear what brocab said, but false jw is forever twisting and disbelieving things said,
including scriptures.

Lie Lie barristter

brocab:
So you believe Christ is a angel-so you worship angels, even after God said not too.

https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/images/jehovahs-witnesses-1john51213.jpg

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/eternallife.htm



more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

So many lies, to defend a lie

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

dolphinheart:
pls, pls, pls ,pls pls pls, DNT LIE AGAINST ME!, DNT ALTER MY WORDS TO MEAN SOME THING ELSE.

You can refuse to discuss, but lying against by altering their words is a new low, a really deep one!

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
AND UP TILL NOW YOU COULD NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF WHERE I SAID SO!
lie lie john!

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
when someone wants to lie or defend a lie, the bolded words will Come up.
They will never categorically say " this is what I said and this is where and how I said it"
they are sure of what I said and where I said, but when asked to produce facts, they are now fomulating probabilities.
imagine saying I said something from a conversation that you are not sure of!

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
it has been proving to you that you keep adjusting your allegations.
you could not post the post and tell us where I said so .

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
EVERY ONE, PLS NOTICE THAT HE COULD STILL NOT POST OR QUOTE MY FULL POST

ON MAY 26 , 1:37 am( page 64 of these thread) John74 stated categorically that I said this :

"dolphinheart said that God and the Word is "a two headed god""

ON MAY 26, 1: 53 am on these thread (page 64) brocab asked johnw74


CAN YOU NOTICE THAT UP TILL THIS MOMENT, JOHNW74 HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROVE WHERE I SAID " GOD AND THE WORD IS A TWO HEADED GOD?

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:
well, you had been lying before Johnny joined you. You cannot come out to say this is what I said, even when johnw74 provided you with supposed evidence. johnw74, on the other hand keep changing the words he claimed I said.

concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

brocab:
Johnw74 had brought it back to your attention, this proves you don't even believe the truth in Christ.
None of you JW's do.

dolphinheart:
Brought what back to my attention, I know you desperately want him to bring those words he accused me of saying out, it pains you that he could not, hence you have to find alternatives!

false jw lies over and over again, false jw loves to lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



concerning John 1:1, God and the Word, Jesus and God:

dolphinheart:
your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

Lie Lie dolphinheart

CAPTIVATOR:
Trust me, u guys are kids ... None of u can debate the bible with a Jehovah Witness, cos witnesses are trained by Jehovah God himself.

the worst u can do is dig up events that happen before u are formed in the womb, at a period clearly different from now. even with thag Jehovahs Witnesses are progressing.

let me introduce you to the Live Jw Broadcasting channel TV.Jw.org and the best website ever Jw.org , accessible in over 500 languages of the world.

You lie against Jehovah, would Jehovah teach things that are not true, only to change them later on

This is what Jesus said about the pharisees of the day, and the pharisees of today false jw:

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

proselyte = a convert

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

Of course it was Jesus body that they destroyed, and which He-Jesus raised
Jesus temple is the same as our temple, it is our body's
Jesus raised His body from the dead

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Lie Lie captivator




more lies from false jw:

https://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/IMG_0742.JPG





more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm