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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 24, 2016
Efrankbblog:
Jehovah's Witnesses are often mistaken to be something else. Some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.. And proudly to tell you my readers that I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Below is 17 fact that shows Jehovah's Witness is not a cult....


1. There are currently about 8 million Jehovah's witnesses around the world.

2. An average of over 800 people become Jehovah's witnesses daily

3. We keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by Jesus Christ.

4. We do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 Jehovah's witnesses were killed by Hitler

5. There are currently over 300 Jehovah's witnesses in Prison in South Korea and Egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.

6. We don't salute the flag or say national Anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to God.

7. Yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted

8. Not many of us know the name of the President of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him He is a fellow servant of God just like the rest of us are.

9. You earn the privilege of becoming a Jehovah's Witness. It's not given to you or passed down.

10. We sin too

11. 1 out every 455 Nigerian is a Jehovah's Witness and 1 out of every 262 American is a Jehovah's Witness

12. Every year, more people read our monthly magazines than any other magazines in the World.

13. Not until 2 years ago Jehovah's witnesses were the only religion required to pay taxes in France.

14. Do you know as a Jehovah's Witness I could visit China and spend a night at any Jehovah's Witnesses without either of us feeling suspicious of each other.

15. Last year Jehovah's witnesses around the World spent a total of 1,841,180,235 hours preaching .

16. We own the largest printing press in the World (The "Meps"wink & yet non of our publications are for sale.

17. The first motion picture ever made with sound and color were produced by Jehovah's Witnesses. (THE PHOTO DRAMA OF CREATION BY RUSSEL). Am proud to be a Jehovah's Witnesses.
Not one of those 17 points show that false jw is not a cult


1 There are more rc's than that, and they kneel before statues,

2 numbers don't make right or wrong

3 yet false jw's told me "don't talk about Jesus He is no one"

4 many more Jews than that were killed, and like false jw, they don't believe Jesus is God either

5 many people are put in prison for not obeying their countries laws

12 many people reading your magazine doesn't prove you are not a cult, many people read playboy too


these sites show that false jw is a cult:

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:02am On May 24, 2016
goodnews201668:
must you sound like a broken record all the time? ignore their thread na or stop quoting them, yes they are dogs!
I will one day
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:24am On May 24, 2016
SCORE so far:

false jw lies = very many, with very many still to come

johnw74 lies = 0



More false jw lies exposed:


Just Like 1975

Today the Watchtower Society claims to be the
“faithful and wise servant” of Matt. 24:45-47. They also
teach that Russell never claimed for himself to be that
“servant,” but said that “servant” was a class of people.
The evidence reveals this is only a partial truth! Russell
originally taught it was a “class,” but obviously changed
his mind afterwards and admitted he alone was that “servant”
(THE WATCHTOWER, 12-1-16, p. 357). Also, it
was openly taught by the Watchtower, after Russell’s
death, that he [Russell] wa\s that “servant” (THE
WATCHTOWER, 3-1-17, p. 67; THE WATCHTOWER,
12-15-16, Reprints p. 6024)! Why the cover-up about
Russell being that “servant”? So the Society can create or
abolish doctrine and policy at will and without question.
If the Society didn’t deny it, then their many publications
could only be a rehash of Russell’s teachings!

More Revealing Truth About The Watchtower

In THE WATCHTOWER, 4-1-83, p. 31, the
Society addresses Johannes Greber, his involvement in
spiritism and his demon-inspired New Testament translation.
In that article, they imply from the foreword of his
1980 edition of his N. T., that they just learned about his
involvement in spiritism. Is this the truth or just another
deception?
The truth is, The Watchtower Society knew about
Johannes Greber and his demon-inspired New Testament
since 1956. This is evident from their expose of him and
his translation of the New Testament (THE WATCHTOWER,
2-15-56, pp. 110,111). However, The Watchtower
Society quoted his demon-produced New Testament
for backing of their own literature numerous times
AFTER 1956 (The Word, Who is He?—According to
John, 1962 ed., p. 5; Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971
ed., pp. 1134,1669; Make Sure of All Things, 1965 ed.,
p. 489; THE WATCHTOWER, 9-15-62, p. 554; THE
WATCHTOWER, 10-15-75, p. 640; THE WATCHTOWER,
4-15-76, p. 231). Do you think it was proper
for The Watchtower Society to do this?

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm

to be continued tomorrow



more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites:

http://jwfacts.com/

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Sarang:
You don't know what to say bro.

You don't know 1cent of the scripture.
the 1cent I do know, I don't change


Sarang:
I tell ya!
I tell you, you won't be telling me anything



Sarang:
If you are going to point out someone's wrong then at least be ready to assist them learn,is that not why we are here?
Not all are to be assisted, including the self righteous pharisees

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op):
1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;

1Jn 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Joh 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Barristter07:
johnw74





[size=28] None of Jesus disciple told him that !!! u are a plain liar [/size]



just imagine , you share a false information about Christ disciple from ur memory . grin grin grin
There is false jw's true colors, they appear as lambs at your front door
but you see the true them at these anonymous forums

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Jesus is speaking off false jw there, and others, we know false jw to be false prophets as Jesus said
a lot of their false prophecies have been posted





Barristter07:
BUSTED! then wat do u mean by search for it in Translations ? kindly lie again that what u mean by translations is not bible hahahaha




BUSTED !




from where do you told Barrister to look for it ?

I adressed your concerns in my post, if you had eyes to see truth



false jw trying to trap a Christian in his words
is like their pharisee forefathers trying to trap Jesus in His words.

Trying to make a Christian out to have told a lie, is to try to make themselves look better because of their multitude of lies, but Christians don't lie as they do

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


johnw74:
ha ha, every word I said is true, and look how pharacee jw tries to trap me in my words
like their forefathers tried to trap Jesus

Matthew 22:15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words

Luke 11:53 When Jesus went outside, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law began to oppose him fiercely and to besiege him with questions,
54 waiting to catch him in something he might say.

Mark 12:15 Should we pay or shouldn’t we?” But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.”




I said from my memory "look out Jesus, said a disciple, they are trying to trap you"

I never said it's from the bible although at the time I thought it would have been


barristter jumped in with provide the scripture
I told him he could look for it


I remembered later that I saw and heard it in one of the Jesus movies,
no lie said by me at all
but plenty of false jw lies have been exposed in this thread alone



ha ha they tried so hard to trap me in my words, and look at the many many false jw lies that have been exposed
just in these few pages











cheesy they are a queer lot
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 3:52am On May 23, 2016
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 3:52am On May 23, 2016
the truth attracts evil
the title of this thread attracts evil

If anyone doesn't believe all the Bible verses posted
then there is nothing that would have them believe
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 2:28am On May 21, 2016
Father is God:
Rom 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Son is God:
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Holy Ghost is God:
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:17am On May 21, 2016
mote pharisee jw lies, false prophets:

1925 - "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"

"Millions now living will never die!" was exclaimed by Rutherford in a series of public lectures starting 1918. This was related to his prophecy that the earthly resurrection would commence 1925, with the return to life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and became the focus of the preaching work in the following years.
must read this: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1925.php

Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

that and many scriptures describes pharisee false jw so well
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:06am On May 21, 2016
lying is so ingrained in pharacee jw that they think everyone lies like they do
when they speak a lie they are speaking naturally

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

like father like son
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:32am On May 21, 2016
dolphinheart:
but you can quote them, and anytime they ask you a question about the scriptures, you remember you dnt discuss with them! phony
yes, you are right I quote false jw and show them where they are wrong and lying
and yes, I don't discuss with them, you've got it
boy, ****
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Barristter07:
johnw74



you are putting yourself in more trouble .


- [size=27] this post above shows that you johnw74 is deceiving the readers by posting MISLEADING INFORMATION.
[/size]

there are some readers on Nairaland that doesnt bother to comment, so at first glance they will be mislead by your statement.

" look out Jesus said a Disciple
" . u never reveal this statement wasnt found in the bible UNTIL you are PreSSEd like an Orange. so such a reader who belives every thing, on seeing disciple
will believe its from the Bible ? thereby spreading false information.


2) To examine ur statement, I asked: show me where that statement can be found in the bible ? [size=23] you didnt confess
[/size]
instead

to which you johnw74 replied:



you now denied you never said its in the bible , shocked shocked ,why did you now said readers should search the translations for it ?
ha ha, every word I said is true, and look how pharacee jw tries to trap me in my words
like their forefathers tried to trap Jesus

Matthew 22:15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words

Luke 11:53 When Jesus went outside, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law began to oppose him fiercely and to besiege him with questions,
54 waiting to catch him in something he might say.

Mark 12:15 Should we pay or shouldn’t we?” But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.”




I said from my memory "look out Jesus, said a disciple, they are trying to trap you"

I never said it's from the bible although at the time I thought it would have been


barristter jumped in with provide the scripture
I told him he could look for it


I remembered later that I saw and heard it in one of the Jesus movies,
no lie said by me at all
but plenty of false jw lies have been exposed in this thread alone



ha ha they tried so hard to trap me in my words, and look at the many many false jw lies that have been exposed
just in these few pages






dolphinheart:
oh my!
dolphinheart:
I do understand sir, I've been following his denial on these thread ever since you asked him that question
cheesy they are a queer lot
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:11am On May 21, 2016
Barristter07:
Jozzy4



hello sir ,

would u belive that this same guy johnw74 alias ",lie lie john " actually told me to go and search for those words in [[bible]] translations.


now he changed and said its not in the bible, but its movie ... but yet can tell me to go and search the translations for it ?



to sustain a lie, more lies have to be told.. thats his case. grin
pharacee jw cannot help but lie, I never said it's in the Bible
you asked for scripture I told you to look for it

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:04am On May 21, 2016
dolphinheart:
everyone can always do what they want to do , you are not special when it comes to that.
But along with such privileges comes responsibility , the responsibility of doING things the right way.
one must always remember that when we do what we want, such actions determines who we are and what we are after, our personality and intentions.

If during a discussion or arguement about the scriptures, I ask you questions about the scriptures and seek your understanding of such scriptures but you refuse , despite replying and talking to me, IT SHOWS WHO YOU ARE!
Yes it shows I don't have anything to do with satans church
except expose their lies
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:26pm On May 20, 2016
some false jw's have gone back through their posts cleaning them up
we remember all the bolded large texts screaming out liar etc etc

they don't go to peoples homes that way, do they, they are like lambs there
but in these forums they are like wolves


Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

and we have seen some of their false prophecies also

Pro_19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

some of pharacee jw false prophecies:

1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy

One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather, 1914 was predicted to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise.
you must read this: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:44pm On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:
but you can raise yourself to quote me abi? phony!

when you are being asked questions about your doctrines , that when you remember your self glorified status!
@bold, yes of course, I always do what I want to do, and with false jw, it's showing what liars they are
I do that very well smiley

as for the rest, it's just more of pharacee jw loving to lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:07pm On May 20, 2016
pharacee jw accuses and accuses non stop
and every single time they are shown to be lying smiley
still on and on they go, with the same old thing-lies, lies and more lies
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:58am On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:
the guy gave u a fitting name : lie lie John

look out Jesus said a DISCIPLE. grin where in the bible ? none , u just lied.

update: na Jesus movie grin
I never said it was in the Bible
but keep lying, it's all pharacee jw knows
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:55am On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:
UP TILL THIS MOMENT, NEITHER YOU NOR BROCAB COULD SHOW OR POINT TO WHERE I SAID THE WORD HE IS ACUSSIN ME OF SAYING.
Christians are not supposed to make false allegations, it is not a good thing, "liar" is a word used for those who do what brocab had done, it is not good to lie against someone else.

I've asked you and brocab to quote and explain
1. reV 1:1,4-6,
2. heb 1:9
I be also asked you to tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12

THIS REQUEST YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FULLY CARRY OUT!
I don't lower myself to answer questions from pharacee jw's
I've said it many times and you know it,
but pharacee jw loves to lie


I don't have to answer for brocab
but pharacee jw cannot help but lie all the time


it's really funny-pathetic false jw lecturing on lies



false jw agree with the Pharisees that Jesus wasn't God

the Pharisees denied the Trinity and the Deity of Christ, so do pharacee jw's

the Pharisees denied the physical resurrection of Christ and salvation by grace alone, so do pharacee jw's

false jw's are todays pharacees.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:25am On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:
in one Movieeeee grin grin grin not the bible hahahaha

lie lie John , lol
no, true true pharacee
pharacee jw and their supporters love to lie

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:35am On May 20, 2016
false jw twists and changes verses so much to suit their satanic doctrines, and they cannot see how ridiculous and confused it is that they write,
their god has blinded them:

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Jozzy4:
Jesus IS NOT Him who is , who was and who is to come . (Rev 1:4-6] Jesus is a faithful witness of that one .

its Him who is, who was and who is to come ,Jesus God and Father thats speaking in verse 8 .


@ saying : thats when Jesus speaks



your own focus is alpha and omega. SO WEAK ! two people sharing same title doesnt make them same person , your desperation to insert Jesus into verse 8 when its clear that the one speakin is not Jesus ( Rev 1:4-6] is weak. can u say Jesus is actually the 12 apostles because both ar called APOSTLE ?




your case is pathetic o, John turn to see the voice that speak with him in verse 11 SAYING
he should write to the seven congregations of Asia

[size=28] 11: Saying [/size] I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto pergamos, and unto thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia and unto Laodicea

not the voice of verse 8




Even Jesus and his 12 disciple are all called "APOSTLE" mr . cheesy ur point is weak.

Read verse 1: 4-6 , the scripture did a perfect Job separating Him who is, who was and who is to come from Jesus the faithful witness.
Jozzy4:
@ dolphin heart and barister .

this your friends are funny o , they quote Rev 1:12 that John turn to see the voice speaking to him , when its clear he is reffering to the voice speaking in verse 10 and 11 telling him to write to the congregations .


lolzzzzzzzz.
cheesy
If there is anyone in this forum more confused than this one
then I haven't seen him

and another false jw actually gave his post a "like"
boy are they dumb
but they do love to lie
and they do love to support lies
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:05am On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:
bold fits you @ johnw74

Barrister don show you pepper , pls mr liar where did a disciple tell Jesus he should look out they want to trap him ?
@bold, now now, your upset, I know you hate the truth

@red, in one of the Jesus movies is where I saw and heard a disciple say to Jesus " look out Jesus, they are trying to trap you"
I don't remember which movie I've watched most of them.




The pharicees who are today's false jw's did try and trap Jesus in His speech
matthew and luke testify of it, Jesus Himself said to the pharicees who are today's false jw's “Why are you trying to trap me?”


Matthew 22:15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words

Luke 11:53 When Jesus went outside, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law began to oppose him fiercely and to besiege him with questions,
54 waiting to catch him in something he might say.

Mark 12:15 Should we pay or shouldn’t we?” But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.”

You can see there that false jw are exactly like the pharacees
false jw are the modern day pharacees, and like the pharacees of old, they love to lie over and over again
and to try and trap people in their words smiley just like the pharacees of old did



false jw's agree with the Pharisees that Jesus isn't God

the Pharisees denied the Trinity and the Deity of Christ, so do false jw's

the Pharisees denied the physical resurrection of Christ and salvation by grace alone, so do false jw's

false jw's are todays pharacees and they love to lie just like their fore fathers.
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 1:54am On May 20, 2016
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:21am On May 20, 2016
solite3:
Revelation 1:8 is really about who was speaking n that person was Jesus
Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the endingsaith the Lord which is,which was, and which is to come,the almighty.
PLEASE NOTE VERSE TEN AND ELEVEN
VS10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,and heard behind me a great voice,as of a trumpet.
11. Saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto pergamos, and unto thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia and unto Laodicea
we can see that it was the same voice that identify himself in vs 11 as Alpha n Omega is the same in vs8
AND WHO IS THAT PERSON?
Vs 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Again the question is about who was talking and who referred to himself as Alpha n Omega in those verses
They will never understand, and they cannot:

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

their god blinds their minds
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:
YOU ARE NOT ONLY A LIAR , YOU ARE CHIEF OF LIARS.
where did I tell you to tell us who is talking each of the verses!?

Here is my request again brocab:
pls quote and then explain the following scriptures
rev 1: 1,4-6
heb 1:9

pls tell us who is talking in rev 3: 2,12

you have not done this, you think splitting the verses into different comments will help you, it will not!
@bold, you do err, it is your god satan that is chief of liars

his spirit can be seen in you right now

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
barristter, more false jw lies for you
so far the score is very many to none, you lose big time
 
1.John 10:30-34 is a section of verses where the Pharisees say that Jesus is making Himself out to be God (v. 33).
1."I and the Father are one. Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, 'I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?'  'We are not stoning you for any of these,' replied the Jews, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.'"
2.You can say, "See, even the Jews knew He was claiming to be God." The Jehovah's Witness (if he's quick enough) will say something like, "Jesus wasn't God. The Jews only thought that Jesus was claiming to be God." Then you can say, "Oh, I see. Then let me get this right. You agree with the Pharisees, Jesus wasn't God? Is that correct?" The Jehovah's Witness will not like it that he agrees with a Pharisee.
2.Plurality in the Godhead.
1.The following group of Scriptures strongly suggests a plurality within the Godhead. These verses are translated correctly in the Jehovah's Witness Bible, so you can encourage them to use it. The NIV is not as literal in its translation in the Amos verses, so I recommend using either the King James or the New American Standard Bible when doing your own.
1.Gen. 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness . . . '"
1.They will say that angels are the ones who helped God make man. However, there is no Scriptural evidence for that. God is the only creator.
2.You can also take him to Col. 1:15-17 where it says that Jesus is the creator of all things--including man and Isaiah 44:24 where it says that God created the heavens and the earth all alone.
2.Gen. 19:24, "Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven."
1.Is this saying there are two Lords, two Jehovah's?
3.Amos 4:10-11, 'I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah . . . '"
1.Jehovah is the one talking, and He says, "I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah . . . " Very interesting.
4.Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me . . . '" See also, Isaiah 48:16.
5.If you are reading these verses to a Jehovah's Witness, he might say something like, "Are you trying to show the Trinity from these verses?" You can then say, "You got the Trinity out of these?"
6.These verses and others are more fully developed in The Plurality Study, which is a powerful tool for witnessing to the Witnesses.
3.John 20:25 says, "The other disciples therefore were saying to him, 'We have seen the Lord!' But he said to them, 'Unless I shall see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe,'" (NASB).
1.The Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus was crucified on a cross. They say it happened on a torture stake where His wrists were put together over His head and a single nail was put through both. If that is true, then why does Thomas say, "Unless I shall see in His hands the imprint of the nails . . . " In the Greek the word used here for "nails," helos, is in the plural. Therefore, there was more than one nail used in the hands of the crucifixion of Christ.
4.First and Last.
1.How many firsts and lasts are there? In the Bible God is called the first and last and so is Jesus. Since God says there is no God apart from Him and Jesus and God are both addressed by the same title, then that poses a problem for the Jehovah's Witness.
1.Isaiah 44:6, "This is what the LORD says---Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God."
2.Revelation 1:8, "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
3.Revelation 1:17-18, "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades."
1.Obviously, Rev. 1:17-18 can only refer to Jesus.
4.Revelation 22:12-13, "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
1.Here, both the "Alpha and the Omega" and the "First and the Last" are said to be one and the same.
2.Also, at this point go to Titus 2:13 where it says that Jesus is the one who is coming soon, therefore, Jesus and Jehovah are the same.
5.The Holy Spirit
1.Jehovah's Witnesses teach that the Holy Spirit is an active force like radar. They deny that He is alive and that He is a person. This is, of course, because they deny the Trinity. Yet, if the Holy Spirit is simply a force then . . .
1.Why is He called God (Acts 5:3-5)?
2.How is it that He can teach (John 14:26)?
3.How can He be blasphemed (Matt. 12:31, 32)?
4.How can He be the one who comforts (Acts 9:31)?
5.How is it possible for Him to speak (Acts 28:25)?
6.How then can He be resisted (Acts 7:51)?
7.How can He be grieved (Eph. 4:30)?
8.How can He help us in our weaknesses (Rom. 8:26)?
2.If the Holy Spirit is a force, then how is it possible that the above-mentioned characteristics are attributed to Him? A force doesn't speak, teach, comfort, etc.
3.Nor can you blaspheme against a force.
6.The Resurrection of Jesus
1.The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus. They say that if the sacrifice of Jesus were real, then the body had to stay in the grave. They say that He rose in a spirit body. This body was a manifestation similar to the way angels manifested themselves in the Old Testament.
1.The problem with their view is that the angels were not incarnated, that is, they are not born of women. Jesus became a man by birth, therefore, He had a real, physical body--a permanent body. In fact, right now, Jesus is in Heaven in the form of a man though He is a glorified man. Also, He still has two natures, God and man, and will eternally be in this state.
2.Jesus rose from the dead in the same body He died in. For Scriptural proof of this, consider the following verses.
1.In John 2:19-22 before the crucifixion Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up . . . He was speaking of the temple of His body." Since Jesus said He would raise the same body He died in, then it must be true.
1.This last verse is worth focusing on. Remember, Jesus said that He would be the one to raise His body. So, it must be true.
2.John 20:27--Jesus said to Thomas, "reach your finger . . . and put it into My side . . . "
1.If Jesus were not raised from the dead, then why did He have a physical body?
2.The Jehovah's Witnesses will reply that it was a temporary body materialized so the apostles would believe that He was raised. Yet, this is not what Jesus said in John 2:19-22. He said that He would raise His very body.
3.Luke 24:39--"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." 
1.Jesus said that He had "flesh and bones" not "flesh and blood." This is important because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 15:50). The blood of Jesus was the sacrifice for sin (Rom. 5:9). It is the blood that cleanses us of our sin (Heb. 9:22).
2.The blood of Jesus was shed on the cross, and so, most probably, Jesus doesn't have any functioning blood in His body.
7.Similarities between the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Pharisees:
1.The Pharisees denied the Trinity and the Deity of Christ--as do the JW's.
2.The Pharisees denied  the physical resurrection of Christ and salvation by grace alone--as do the JW's.

A Biblical Response to Jehovah's Witnesses
by Matt Slick
https://carm.org/biblical-response-to-jehovahs-witnesses
^^^
a better format at the site, easier reading there
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74:
Barristter07:
johnw74




no Matter how hard u try, this your lie lie John will always be exposed



[i] " look out Jesus , said a DISCIPLE " liarrrrrrrrrr grin grin
@red, stop lying barristter, although I know you can't help it

I haven't tried even once to explain the truth that I said
and that's why you are so obsessed and posessed

In your head you think I have lied
but I have exposed very many of false jw lies
and there seems no end to them

If I am a liarrrrrrrrrr then how much more so is false jw

false jw loves to lie over and over again
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:07am On May 19, 2016
brocab:
AND WHY DOES DOLPHINHEART INSIST ON HIM TO FIRST EXPLAIN REVELATION AND HEBREWS, THE TRUTH IS DOLPHINHEART DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT? NOT ONLY MYSELF' BUT OTHERS HAVE EXPLAINED THESE SCRIPTURES OVER AND OVER, AND STILL THEIR IS NO FRUIT FOUND IN DOLPHINHEART?
ITS SAD EVERYONE IS LAUGHING AT YOU DOLPHINHEART, NO-ONE IS TAKING YOU SERIOUSLY, IT MUST BE LONELY FOR YOU TRYING TO CONNECT WITH YOUR ATTITUDE. BUT DON'T WORRY I AM SMILING BEHIND YOUR BACK EVERY TIME YOU HAVE WRITTEN SUCH RUBBISH AGAINST ME.
YOU WON'T ANSWER REVELATION OR HEBREWS BECAUSE LIKE THE REST OF YOU DONKEYS' YOU ALL BELIEVE CHRIST IS A LITTLE GOD, AND NOT THE JEHOVAH GOD WHO IS, AND WHO WAS, AND WHO IS COMING BACK.
Ha ha, dolphinheart is angry and disappointed that no Christian believes him
he keeps posting his long and ridiculous posts denying scriptures and twisting them to say something else and giving false meanings to them, and no one believes him
except his fellow antichrists

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