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So true, supposed jw's know who they are.

supposed jw lies many times,
supposed jw shown his lies many times,
supposed jw cannot admit his lies,
supposed jw then falsely accuses the other.

bad supposed jw.

goodnews201668:
Just listen to yourself.

ok i listen to myself again

johnw74:
^^^
More supposed jw lies, the verses are clear and are concerning the Word being God,
and not the trinity as you said.
Everytime you open your mouth, you are so dumb.

yep that true, and supposed jw still cannot admit he was wrong

JMAN05:
Yap. And I know how to follow those not honest-hearted. We can dance azonto together without giving them what is holy. So that they will keep being in the dark. When I see those sincere, we ll have what is called a bible discussion. For now, its good to dance.

wish you would stop giving us what is holy to you:

jw, which say they are Christians and are not but do lie, and are the church of satan, say:

"the Word is "a god"

Christ' body was not resurrected etc etc"


Yes you should stop giving us those lies which are holy to you,
but you-supposed jw won't as you just said you would, because you lie, just like you breathe,
all the time.

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atheist Miz Janet and follower of supossed jw's are allies in faith.

goodnews201668:
Don't go yet I told you I still have other questions.

Well I appreciate the fact that you believe that thoughts, plans and purposes stops at death which is in agreement with the Bible.

Though you still believe one can still be alive after death, yes through your statement that man is truine in nature.
If so it betrays the idea that thoughts, purposes and plans cease to exist at death and that would also contradict the Bible that stated the dead are unconscious.
I also noticed you embrace the resurrection hope.
Resurrection means to revive or bring back to life, if you alive after death the hope of resurrection will be meaningless.
Opposite of life is death!, either you are alive or you are dead helpless, unconscious and awaits resurrection.
The Bible doesn't teach anything like half dead or dead physically and alive in spirit.
One is either dead or alive.
Two extremes.
You didn't explain the portions of the Bible I cited(Romans 6:7 and 6:23).
Again we are created in God's image as you said right. But the scriptures does not support the idea that man is spirit, I believe those were you ideas or what you think.
Being created in God's image doesn't mean we are spirits like God rather we can live and reflect God's qualities.
God already created uncountable number of spirit beings in heaven before creating humans so he had in mind something different.
1 Corinthians 15:40 says there is earthly body and heavenly body.
The last time I checked the Bible said only after resurrection can one possibly assume a spirit body.
1 Corinthians 15:43,44 Talks about faithful ones going to heaven as been down like a seed in flesh(describes death) and are made alive in spirit (That's resurrection)
PONDER OVER THIS if one is dead and his spirit is alive the Bible won't talk about resurrecting a person as a spirit being.
Again at (Luke 20:34-36) Jesus made mention of faithful resurrected ones not getting married because they'll be like Angels and will be sons of God!
So transforming someone to a spirit life means the person is worthy of a heavenly life and have no need to dwell on the earth. Because corruption can't inherit incorruptible.
Jude 1:7 is not talking about what will happen in the future as you said, because you rightly pointed out it will serve as a warning example. So the Bible using fire in this instance was figurative, the fire burned enternal in the sense the destruction was everlasting.

Lastly I actually cited (Revelations 20:15) That said hell and death were thrown into the lake of fire which means the second death.
You didn't say anything about it, are they (death and hell) also sinners? Doesn't the fire mentioned mean destruction or second death?

Duh, who cares about supposed jw questions,

analice said: "After now, I won't reply to you anymore."

but supposed jw doesn't know the truth when they see it.


Like jmano who said "I won't reply to you again"

and replied to me the very next day

When supposed jw lie they are speaking naturally.

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Supposed jw calling someone a liar, that's just as ridiculous as satan calling someone a liar.

goodnews201668:
There truth is clear but I know you can't see it, I have done my best. Keep mocking yourself.

Ha ha, If you think you are a Bible teacher then you have so been deluded.

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More supposed jw lies, the verses are clear and are concerning the Word being God,
and not the trinity as you said.
Everytime you open your mouth, you are so dumb.

goodnews201668:
Why don't you stop misrepresenting the Bible

You must be referring to those verses I posted in the other thread showing that the Word is God,
and to which you replied:

"Stop misrepresenting the Bible, all those scriptures doesn't in any way support Trinity."

Nothing was made except what the Word made, the Word - God's Spirit, has of course always existed

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Can you see that, the Spirit of God - the Word Jesus Christ, has made me,
the Word is God, He is God's own Spirit, the breath of the Almighty, God and the Word is God.



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

MizJanet:
what a heartless being you are ?


those who worship a cruel god becomes exactly like their god . the last line said it all

Jesus said BODY go to hell , not ur crazy theories up there . " Your WHOLE BODY IN Hell "
matthew 5:29 to 30

analice107 , as uv seen that ur lie lie spiri spiri theory is CRUSHED and Exposed in that Matthew, can you now tell me how many Body uv seen disappearing to ur imaginary hellfire ?



if none, does it mean Jesus lied ?

Yes his last line said it all,
with all the evil you have said about the Christian God and the Bible,
the LAKE OF FIRE is for you.

you shall be thrown down there. Him and you all will burn equally

You are an atheist and you use the Bible to mock baby Christians who don't know much.
You don't do it with the supposed jw's or rc's because even though they don't know much, truth that is, you are scared, knowing that not just one but many will oppose you.

goodnews201668:
Whenever you are told the truth you start causing others, this is what you have been doing on all the threads that bothers on JW.
Stop behaving like a child, be a man and stand and defend the truth for once stop looking for straws here and there to hold.
I am glad you have been shown maturity no one is retaliating or acting like you.
Why don't you stop misrepresenting the Bible and support the truth. Come on I expected some decorum from you in this forum.

Why do you still think I want to have a discussion with evil jw,
I have showed you and every other jw wrong at one time or another,
and I will again.

Trying to show supposed jw truth would be like teaching satan how to be good.

Are you still seeing Paul Grundy's? that's the devil in you, you know.

You couldn't be more wrong, the truth doesn't need defending, It just needs being told.
I show truth with scripture, and supossed jw's reject it.

Supposed jw are constantly defending, not the truth, but their false beliefs.

I never misrepresent the Bible, but supposed jw who changed the Word was God, to the Word was "a" god cannot help but lie and misrepresent and change the Bible.

JMAN05:
phony phony phony!

Paul Grundy, Paul Grundy, Paul Grundy
paranoia, paranoia, paranoia

what a girly you are

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The truth is as clear as mud to supposed jw

jmano you said I'm phony at around the same time g news said another user is Paul Grundy
your god inspires you with fear, you supposed jw's see Paul Grundy's everywhere

JMAN05:
Just see grammar. Your teacher would be proud of you sir.



Emusan, I recommend you employ someone to give you 24 strokes of cane in the morning, 24 strokes in the afternoon and another 24 strokes in the evening. Try it for one month, your delirium will evaporate.

English teacher, I no go school. Let us see you that went to school. I said:



You replied:



First, your sentence shows lack of grammatical knowledge. Yet you deem it fit to talk about English.

The bold face; you acknowledged from the above that what you mentioned is in the plural while I asked for a church. Who then is not understanding english? You whose sentence is more of grammatical disunity. "are" and then "a name", and "church". Teacher Emusan, if you dont know how to convey your thoughts well in english you ask for help. English teacher!



You should have stated you were a spiritual prostitute. Why should I be like you? Do I not read Eph 4:4, 5 and 1cor 1:10?

If that is what you are, no p.

jmano you know nothing about God, you might as well talk about English Grammar

Hey g newsy, have you seen any more Paul Grundy's lately?


see what your god's (satans) spirit does in you, and above

johnw74 posts verses for the Word being God

supposed jw, g news said: "Stop misrepresenting the Bible, all those scriptures doesn't in any way support Trinity"

dolphinheart:
tHought it was only girls that use to do this "duh""duh" thing, never knew it was a trait that can be adopted by grown up males too.

Duh, you don't know much do you

dolphinheart:
you even edit my post when quoting me

pls pls pls, dnt cut off my post when replying .

oops, sorry I edited-deleted all your confusion and kindergarten stuff

JMAN05:
phony phony phony, Isaiah really prophesied about u, u serve with ur lips but ur heart are far remove from God. U dont deserve my time.

Yes jmano my heart is far removed from your god who beget "a god"

As you keep showing jmano, speaking a lie is speaking naturally for you

Supposed jw's early teachings:

1799- last days began

1874 - Start of Jesus' invisible presence

1878 - Jesus became King in Heaven

1914 - End of the world


Have a look here also: https://www.nairaland.com/3033798/compilation-1975-end-world-watchtower#44652819

[size=14pt]Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies[/size]

by Matt Slick

The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct Biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom.

If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's Word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature.

Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21).

1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?



A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies

goodnews201668:
Are you serious, fearful, murderers, idolaters, lairs and so forth. You truly know Jehovahs witnesses. But what troubles me is that you haven't been able to prove them liars. I wish your opinion about JWs count, it doesn't!

I have shown supposed jw's to be liars on many many ocassions, but of course you have been blinded
you even call the Word "a god"
you have two god's, the Father is Almighty God and the Word Jesus Christ is mighty god,
so ridiculous and you are blind to see it.

@ red, my opinion doesn't count, but you are commenting on my opinion,
there's yet another supposed jw lie. you can't help it.

lordnicklaus:
Please Scholar8200, malvisguy212 and others who know a lot about the Christian faith come in and contribute.............

I have recently discovered a problem which might pose a threat to the authenticity of the Gospels and the authority of the New Testament... I noticed a significant difference between Matthew's gospel and other gospels. In Matthew's gospel, the event of Matthew's calling to discipleship happens before the event of the healing of the demon possessed man but in other gospels, Matthew's calling takes place after the event of healing the demon possessed.... I want to know if anything has been said about it..... Thanks for contributing.........

You said in a post that you don't believe Paul etc. but you believe in Jesus Christ because you believe the Gospels
And now you are trying to tear apart the Gospels
wolf in sheep's clothing.

One so called jw said: why are so called jw's not given enough attention

another supposed jw said: we are persecuted

they say anything that's written in watchtower or that comes from that dark spirit in them.

one supossed jw posted scripture about the Church being persecuted and murdered,
and they are daily in some parts of the World, but so called jw are not persecuted and murdered,
they are rejected.
Of course they don't care about wrongly using scripture.

dolphinheart:
1. I quoted your words before I said it was a lie
2. I underlined the specific words that are lies in your sentences
3. I explained why they are lies.
4. I gave examples of how the relationship between the father and son is.
5. I asked you to present to me questions or points you made in your post which you accuse me of not responding to, you did not do so.
6. I gave you some points about Jesus, you did not respond to it.
7. I asked you some questions about Jesus and the father, you have up till this moment refused to respond to it.

Okay I found what you underlined and called a lie:

johnw74: The Father God begat Jesus, meaning Jesus is of the Father, God is Spirit, the Word-Jesus Christ is that same God spirit, just as you are the same human spirit and flesh as your father.

And this is what you said about it:

dolphinheart: this is where lies are creeping in into your explanations. I've asked and I've received no response, is Jesus the same person as the father? is Jesus the father?
your father gave birth to you, you HAVE the same spirit and flesh, not " you are " the same spirit and flesh(as you are trying to portray). you are two different persons who could talk, discuss, see, and be with each other. The scriptures have shown extensively that Jesus and Jehovah does this too. The person who Sat at the right hand of the Majesty on high is not the same spirit as the the Majesty on high!

Duh, If you received no response, do you think it could be because I said reply to mine (which you didn't) and I will answer yours.

Of course the son is not the Father what a ridiculous question.

You say I have the same spirit and flesh as my father
but I am not the same spirit and flesh as my father, ha ha you so confused,
would that be a lie, it must be because it is wrong, stop lying dolphin

The Father and the Son talk with each other, are two diffrent persons, really, your post is so enlightening

So do you have scripture showing that the Father and the Son have diffrent spirits, of course you don't
God and the Word are one God because they have the one same Spirit
Only the Father and the Son have God's Spirit, humans have the human spirit, God'spirit can live in believers
but believers are not off God's spirit, the Word-the only begotten son is off God's spirit.

I know it's impossible for you to understand this, but some others will.





Please repost my other lies that you accuse off, so I can show you again who the liar-accuser is.

Yes the World would be a better place without the supposed jw's,
the World would be a better place without all of satans influences.

And the World will be a better place without supposed jw's:

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Doesn't Jesus description of the abominable fit the so called jw perfectly, fearful, unbelieving, liars

No, supposed jw's are not Christians, but are modern day pharacees, they teach that the Word was "a god"
they don't believe these scriptures:


Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

JMAN05:
phony, how things? its been long.

jmano you called me phony
and g newsy said someone is Paul Grundy
I asked you both about it and you are both to scared to say anything
that's the devils spirit, a spirit of fear and lies and paranoia, sound familar?
the spirit of supposed jw

goodnews201668:
I am not surprised you guys will just beating around the bush always and shifting the goal post. Any sound mind will see the sense in my explanations, I was even thinking you will come up with another portion. You are Paul Grundy, I know I have seen his traits!

Mr paranoia, supposed jw doesn't answer anything at all, do you, just lie,
who is the other Paul Grundy?
you know paranoia is from the devil, and doesn't it show, lies, non answering, accusing, etc etc.

This is what the real Jesus says about supossed jw, not your jesus who is "a god"
you have two gods, mighty god and almighty god

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

goodnews201668:
You know the truth since and you are here twisting it, my answer is simple and precise.
You haven't refuted it, why don't you simply acknowledge the truth? Shame the devil for once!

No end to supposed jw lies, truly "Father gave revelation to Jesus, Jesus sent it to John by His Angel"
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

you not only continually lie, but you don't understand scripture and pervert what it says.