Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 6:03am On Apr 25, 2016 |
[size=14pt] Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies[/size] by Matt SlickThe Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct Biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom. If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's Word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature. Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do. In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God. IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21). 1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621). 1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101). 1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii). 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262). 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106). 1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3). 1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262). 1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232). 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338). 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288). 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968). 1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494). A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also? A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" ( Matt. 24:24). https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 5:56am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: The best comedy to look at, is your inability to reason independently as a disciple of Christ, in order to be tolerant. The was a time the Church believed there is no salvation ex cathedra. The Catholic church has moved on. Now you see the new HOLY father breaking boundaries. Grow Up spiritually. Don't be disappointed when it suddenly dawns on you, that only a MINORITY will be on the right-side-of-God.
So having a look at YOUR sites is good, but the comedy am enjoying is YOU! THE PASTOR Over and over again you show you are truly deluded first you said I belonged to a big church then you said I didn't belong to any church now you imply I belong to the rc church You have been deluded for not loving the truth evil jw lie constantly |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 5:48am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: See how you're finally EXPOSED. BUSTED. Only in the eyes of the deluded |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 5:46am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: Oh I've just discovered the truth speaker church.
Bigdreams Concept International Ministries The Apostolic Church Ojuwoye District Centre 49, Post Office Road, Mushin, Lagos.
So you know all the jw to be liars about the bible, their beliefs and religion! And you still believe yourself a Christian in this country?
Why then don't you then show the way, by not lying about what you know is false, only to win an argument and lure converts. Why don't you drop your arrogance and dogmatism. Do that for Christ and your reward is great in the heaven. I have been saying what I know is false about phony jw's I know it's impossible for you, but stop your lying "and lure converts", Ha, you fake jw's really are deluded |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 2:08am On Apr 25, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 2:05am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: For all those who are interested in hating God, JW Religion, Minority Belief Group and so on, for all those whose blood pleasure are normalized when they bigot sincere worshipers of God, let me help you to the hate websites where you can have more weapons against your fellowmen. I want to help you. You'll find the sites INFORMATIVE.
LIST OF HATE WEBSITES: 99% Truth, but 1% FATAL POISON! Very effective. 1. http://www.jwfacts.com 2. www. jwsurvey.org/ 3. www. jehovahs - witness.com/ 4. www.cultwatch.com/ 5. www.alwaysbeready.com/ 6. https://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com 7. www.jesus-is-savior.com/
BRB You are right in the 1% thing: the sites are informative you are wrong about the other 99% things |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 2:02am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: Of course you're either in a big church or you're too arrogant and undisciplined to belong to one. Fact. Either way you keep doing your 99% truth and 1% poison submissions, confirming that you are a WOLF in sheep covering. No lasting benefits comes from believing your plagiarism. When I use someones else's work I give the name and the URL but evil jw constantly lie about everything they cannot help it when you say a lie you are talking naturally |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:08am On Apr 25, 2016*. Modified: 2:15am On Apr 25, 2016 |
Sarang: 2cor 4:4 Among whom the god of the this system of things..
In the above text Satan is refered to as a god,and you think it's inapproriate for Jesus to be? Evil jw compares the Lord Jesus Christ to satan and it wonders why I'm not respectful to satans church, duh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:34am On Apr 25, 2016*. Modified: 2:14am On Apr 25, 2016 |
Sarang: The first verse of revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by Jehovah God and through Jesus Christ,hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative)at times is God himself and at other times Jesus christ.(Rev 22:8. Therefore Rev 1:8 says "I am the alpha and the omega",says the Lord God,who is and who was and who is to come,the Almighty."Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus,it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to"the ALMIGHTY" God.
In this regard Barnes' Notes on the New Testament 1974observes. It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer mearnt to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically... There is no real incongruity in supposing,also,that the writer here mearnt to refer to God as such". See also revelation Rev 21:6. It's Jesus, but you haven't a clue: Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. It's all about the Son, to throw the Father in their, is to try and make it support your satanic doctrine that the Word is not the Almighty but "a god" the Almighty is God, God, is God and the Word You will never understand, the Holy Spirit is needed satans spirit will never cut it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:27am On Apr 25, 2016*. Modified: 2:13am On Apr 25, 2016 |
Sarang: By their Fruits you shall know them. every good tree produces good fruit and every rotten tree produces rotten fruits. You take a verse that I have posted to phony jw many times and post it back at me duh you couldn't be truthful if your life depended on it (and it does) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:23am On Apr 25, 2016 |
Sarang: By their fruits you shall know them. You actually who is been disrespectful and calling others names do not exhibit a christian attitude. Your right, I'm not respectful to satans church |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:15am On Apr 25, 2016 |
joyandfaith: false accusations? with evidence of genocide committed by ur church. again and again phony jw cannot help but lie. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 12:10am On Apr 25, 2016*. Modified: 12:52am On Apr 25, 2016 |
themall: PARANOID! ROTF. I guess you are too arrogant and dogmatic to JOIN a church. Are you not a WOLF! You are right in one thing, I am not a wolf. First you imply I'm in a big church now you say I don't belong to a church you can deny and lie all you like, but by your words you are paranoid and a false accuser |
Christianity Etc › Re: Will World Be A Better Place Without Jehovah Witnesses by johnw74: 3:21am On Apr 24, 2016 |
joyandfaith: when some of guys become history like Hitler and Stalin, jw will keep browning . no attacks, intimidation, or propangada can stop jw. in fact, u are helping more people to learn about JW.we love ur hatred. it is nice. it brings blessing to jw. phony jw love hatred, it is nice they say do they lie, or are they so weird? A. both  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 1:51am On Apr 24, 2016 |
joyandfaith: which God church? Rwanda genocide, and other crimes are encourage by ur church. ur church attitude to Bible breeds teaching of evolution,promote gay marriage etc. examine itself and ur church and have a rethink. u a pastor swindling members thru tithes and fake miracle. u guys have turned church into business. and keep on looking at minor fault of jw while as a pastor u are sleeping with young girls in altar. holy sex. of course nothing can be done to you as long as head office of ur church sees you are bringing money for them. worst still, your daddy g.o will transfer you to another church to continue your sex and tithes ministry. u na well done. I am waiting for ur denial. You really shouldn't make all of those false accusations of God's Church like that, I have warned you before. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:43am On Apr 24, 2016*. Modified: 3:30am On Apr 24, 2016 |
goodnews201668: You just made me truly realize who you, I thought as much I'll stop quoting you nor replying your post, Evil John, hater, apostate, liar, slander, hypocrite, impostor you actually had to operate with this account and you know the reason. What the Bible said about you is true, you fit all the descriptions. Ha ha, amazing. Paranoid is not the only word for you, deluded, psycho, and more goodnews201668: Just wait he will come here probably by midnight and qoute you only to say trash and nonsense or repeat the same things again. The way he talks I wonder if he's sound mentally.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:14am On Apr 24, 2016 |
goodnews201668: Evil John, you are phony! Stop quoting me goodnews201668: I am not surprised you guys will just beating around the bush always and shifting the goal post. Any sound mind will see the sense in my explanations, I was even thinking you will come up with another portion. You are Paul Grundy, I know I have seen his traits!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:00am On Apr 24, 2016 |
goodnews201668: What will happen I you don't lie? Must you? Even the devil will be scared of you because of the way you lie, very soon you will take over from him as the father of lie.
Who told you Jesus wasn't resurrected? That he was resurrected as a spirit or made alive in spirit as was also shown you from the Bible is it a lie?
You are here twisting the whole thing to make JWs appear bad, yet it's obvious you are the one spreading falsehoods and hateful message here. Everything is in this thread and it was shown you in the Bible, someone asked you question you dogded it. Obviously because you don't have anything reasonable to say as usual other than accuse JWs and shift attention from the main issue. He is the question again for you and your cohorts.
ince they say ? or the bible say ?
1 pet 3:18 Jesus was killed in the flesh [ which the bible calls earthly body] and was made alive in the flesh ? NO , it said : MADE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT .
fight with that verse .
" And there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But truly the glory of the heavenly is one kind, and that of the earthly is another ,." 1 cor 15:40
you mean Jesus use an earthly body in heaven ? thats silly , its called earthly because its specifically designed for the earth !
heavenly body is the body specifically designed for those in heaven , angels e.t.c
For what happen to Jesus earthly body , I Challenge you to tell me what happen to the body of moses ?
secondly, when angels came to earth and materialize, TELL me what happen to that earthly body they put on after they finished their mission ?
*** answer those two questions and lets see if u also understanding . We know phony jw's reject all Bible verses that go against their satanic doctrines, and yet again here are more verses rejected by satanic jw's johnw74: At some point in time the dead in Christ will be resurrected incorruptible, and we in Christ who are alive at that time will be changed also and caught up To Christ with them in the clouds in the air.
In the same way Jesus who was flesh, was resurrected, with His body changed from corruptible to incorruptible, His body was changed and resurrected the same as all flesh in Christ will be.
false jw say that Jesus body was not resurrected
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
fake jw don't believe that God raised Jesus from the dead, they just believe that His Spirit was raised. They won't be saved.
Spirit doesn't die, it doesn't need to be raised. When Christ comes He will bring the Spirits of those who died in Him to be joined with their new changed resurrected body's, then those in Christ still alive will be changed and rise also to meet Christ in the air.
1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The catching up to Christ is all about redemption of our bodies: Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Do you see also in that verse that Jesus has a glorious body, He is not just a resurrected Spirit as lying jw say, but He was resurrected with a changed glorified body as will the saved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 12:49am On Apr 24, 2016 |
themall: That's what those whose cathedrals have been devastated since the coming of the JW like to say! mr you are paranoid, all you see is organized religion, and you see it everywhere. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:39am On Apr 24, 2016 |
joyandfaith: it is ur church that corrupt the Bible by breeding immoral behavior, encourage tribalism, murder and rituals. if most people love peace like jw many wars and genocide would been averted. ur church members killed themselves in Rwanda during genocide. love is only mark that identify true Christianity say our Lord Jesus, the son of only true God Jehovah. love, an fruitage of holy spirit, is seen clearly among true Christians in respective of their background-racial, social etc. Gal 5:22,23. John 13:34,35. God's Church doesn't corrupt the Bible by breeding immoral behavior, encourage tribalism, murder and rituals, you fake jw's cannot help but lie. Phony jw don't have Love, they have self righteousness, two phony jw's who visited me many moons ago, sat in my only two chairs, the woman looked down on me with a hateful look on her face and then would look at the man jw all googly eyed, I walked down to the shops with them and the woman said to her fellow jw, "after armageddon I'm going to move into that big house". She had already judged that the people in that house would not be saved, and that she would take it. The man said to me when I talked about Jesus, "listen don't talk about Jesus He is no one" I know phony jw, and they are evil. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:23am On Apr 24, 2016*. Modified: 12:43am On Apr 24, 2016 |
clementy117: We call God :Jehovah... Now i know you don't know anything. 2Cor 4 vs 3 n 4 fulfills on you perfectly. I know that the Word is "God" and you know well that those verses concern phony jw |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:35am On Apr 23, 2016 |
At some point in time the dead in Christ will be resurrected incorruptible, and we in Christ who are alive at that time will be changed also and caught up To Christ with them in the clouds in the air.
In the same way Jesus who was flesh, was resurrected, with His body changed from corruptible to incorruptible, His body was changed and resurrected the same as all flesh in Christ will be.
false jw say that Jesus body was not resurrected
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
fake jw don't believe that God raised Jesus from the dead, they just believe that His Spirit was raised. They won't be saved.
Spirit doesn't die, it doesn't need to be raised. When Christ comes He will bring the Spirits of those who died in Him to be joined with their new changed resurrected body's, then those in Christ still alive will be changed and rise also to meet Christ in the air.
1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The catching up to Christ is all about redemption of our bodies: Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Do you see also in that verse that Jesus has a glorious body, He is not just a resurrected Spirit as lying jw say, but He was resurrected with a changed glorified body as will the saved.
This is how His changed Glorified body looks:
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Wow absolutely Awesome. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:09am On Apr 23, 2016 |
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
evil jw do not confess the Lord (kurios God) but call Him "a god" evil jw don't believe that God raised Jesus' body from the dead evil jw are not saved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:36am On Apr 23, 2016 |
joyandfaith: A disgruntled apostaste can/will never say good things about jw. for someone who thinks apostate website is honest is a joker becasuse ur enemy can/will never says good things about you. www.jwfacts.com copies from evil jw publications, your own publications show the hyprocisy and false prophecies etc of phony jw even fake jw's material condemmm them. They know all of this and they are happy to remain in the church of satan. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:28am On Apr 23, 2016 |
clementy117: Apostate website...
Nice try. To be apostate to evil jw who are false prophets, call God "a god", corrupt the bible etc etc is indeed a good thing |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:21am On Apr 23, 2016*. Modified: 2:47am On Apr 23, 2016 |
dolphinheart: 1 ti 3: 16 New International Version Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh....
New Living Translation Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body...
English Standard Version Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh....
Berean Study Bible By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in the flesh....
Berean Literal Bible And confessedly, great is the mystery of godliness: Who was revealed in the flesh....
New American Standard Bible By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh...
Holman Christian Standard Bible And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh.....
International Standard Version By common confession, the secret of our godly worship is great: In flesh was he revealed to sight.....
NET Bible And we all agree, our religion contains amazing revelation: He was revealed in the flesh....
Aramaic Bible in Plain English And this Mystery of Righteousness is truly great, which was revealed in the flesh....
GOD'S WORD® Translation The mystery that gives us our reverence for God is acknowledged to be great: He appeared in his human nature.....
New American Standard 1977 And by common confession great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh.....
American Standard Version And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh......
Douay-Rheims Bible And evidently great is the mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh....
English Revised Version And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh.....
Weymouth New Testament And, beyond controversy, great is the mystery of our religion-- that Christ appeared in human form.... And many more!
"Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory. (NIV) 1. Although the above verse in the NIV does not support the Trinity, there are some Greek manuscripts that read, “God appeared in the flesh.” This reading of some Greek manuscripts has passed into some English versions, and the King James Version is one of them. Trinitarian scholars admit, however, that these Greek texts were altered by scribes in favor of the Trinitarian position. The reading of the earliest and best manuscripts is not “God” but rather “he who.” Almost all the modern versions have the verse as “the mystery of godliness is great, which was manifest in the flesh,” or some close equivalent. 2. In regard to the above verse, Bruce Metzger writes: [“He who”] is supported by the earliest and best uncials…no uncial (in the first hand) earlier than the eighth or ninth century supports theos ; all ancient versions presuppose hos or ho [“he who” or “he”]; and no patristic writer prior to the last third of the fourth century testifies to the reading theos. The reading theos arose either (a) accidentally, or (b) deliberately, either to supply a substantive for the following six verbs [the six verbs that follow in the verse], or, with less probability, to provide greater dogmatic precision [ i.e. , to produce a verse that more clearly supports the Trinitarian position].” [1] 3. When properly translated, 1 Timothy 3:16 actually argues against the Trinity. “By common confession great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Beheld by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory” ( NASB ). This section of Scripture beautifully portrays an overview of Christ’s life and accomplishments. It all fits with what we know of the man , Jesus Christ. If Jesus were God, this section of Scripture would have been the perfect place to say so. We should expect to see some phrases like, “God incarnate,” “God and Man united,” “very God and very man,” etc . But nothing like that occurs. Instead, the section testifies to what non-Trinitarians believe—that Christ was a man, begotten by the Father, and that he was taken up into glory.
> Bibliography > Codex Alexandrinus > 1 Timothy 3:16 1 Timothy 3:16 in Codex Alexandrinus Reproduced below is the text of 1 Timothy 3:16–4:3 from Codex A, as presented in the photographic facsimile volume published by the British Museum in 1879. Of particular interest here is the reading in 3:16, where it may be seen that the manuscript reads ΘC " God was manifested in the flesh," employing the usual abbreviation ΘC for ΘEOC, with a stroke over the letters to indicate an abbreviation. However, textual critics believe that the ink in the center of the Θ and the stroke above were added by a corrector in modern times. Reasons for this belief are the color of the ink, and the fact that a "dot" has been placed in the Θ instead of a line. Tregelles writes, "The ink in which this has been done in A is sufficiently modern and black to declare its recent application" ( An Account of the Printed Text of the Greek New Testament, London, 1854). Without these marks, the manuscript originally read ΟC " He who was manifested in the flesh." In the photograph below the ΘC in 3:16 is circled. Further down, in verse 4:3, there is another ΘC circled for comparison. Click on the circled areas for a larger view.
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johnw74, you have not only been lying, you have how joined the league of those who deliberately changed to word of God to achieve their own selfish ends. scholars, science has exposed you! again and again evil jw who say God and the Word "is a two headed god" rejects Bible scriptures, lies and changes the subject. 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. We know fake jw are false prophets and false teachers who teach damnable heresies and deny the Lord that bought them saying it was "a god" or "an angel" that bought them, they deny the Lord God. 2Peter 2:1 is another Bible verse talking off the evil, phony jw's. as well as others ,describing then to a T their destruction will be swift: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. johnw74: I do hate liars, false prophets, Bible corrupters, God blasphemers, calling Him false names, etc. I take after God in hating evil:
Rev_2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
God hated the deeds of the nicolatians. God also hates the deeds of those who call themselves jehovahs witnesses, the deeds of false prophecy, calling God "a god" calling God and the Word "a two headed god" lying changing what the Bible says to suit there satanic doctrines, and on and on and on
2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
We know fake jw are false prophets and false teachers who teach damnable heresies and deny the Lord that bought them saying it was "a god" or "an angel" that bought them, they deny the Lord God. 2Peter 2:1 is another Bible verse talking off the evil, phony jw's. as well as others ,describing then to a T their destruction will be swift:
Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God was manifest in the flesh evil jw say "a god" was manifest in the flesh "God was manifest in the flesh", is Truly Awesome and worth telling, He did this so that we might live. "a god" was manifest in the flesh", who would want to know? who would write it? = Only antichrists can "a god" save you? Answer: a big definite NO |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 7:46am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668: You are talking as if you don't know him, jman5 calls him phony and someone who was once like him has seen the truth and told him he is even blinder than blind. He keeps repeating the same things over and over again. He and his cohorts no longer have time for themselves again all they do is wallow in anger and hate, Next thing they'll open another thread and start their slanderous message again. If I see theae unserious fellow I always ignore them, let them wallow in their hate and anger. He always judge and condemn yet he can't identify with any religious group, who does that? Again he has refused to tell us the better organization since he knows all, until he do so he will remain insignificant. Those who are honest no longer takes him serious, they way he lie even make the devil to fear. I do hate liars, false prophets, Bible corrupters, God blasphemers, calling Him false names, etc. I take after God in hating evil: Rev_2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. God hated the deeds of the nicolatians. God also hates the deeds of those who call themselves jehovahs witnesses, the deeds of false prophecy, calling God "a god" calling God and the Word "a two headed god" lying changing what the Bible says to suit there satanic doctrines, and on and on and on 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. We know fake jw are false prophets and false teachers who teach damnable heresies and deny the Lord that bought them saying it was "a god" or "an angel" that bought them, they deny the Lord God. 2Peter 2:1 is another Bible verse talking off the evil, phony jw's. as well as others ,describing then to a T their destruction will be swift: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God was manifest in the flesh evil jw say "a god" was manifest in the flesh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:49am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668: You are talking as if you don't know him, jman5 calls him phony and someone who was once like him has seen the truth and told him he is even blinder than blind. He keeps repeating the same things over and over again. He and his cohorts no longer have time for themselves again all they do is wallow in anger and hate, Next thing they'll open another thread and start their slanderous message again. If I see theae unserious fellow I always ignore them, let them wallow in their hate and anger. He always judge and condemn yet he can't identify with any religious group, who does that? Again he has refused to tell us the better organization since he knows all, until he do so he will remain insignificant. Those who are honest no longer takes him serious, they way he lie even make the devil to fear. phony jw mano and someone else who is also phony jw only carry weight with fellow jw phonies such as yourself Christians don't believe phony jw's, Mat_7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:51am On Apr 22, 2016 |
phony jw know of the corruption, false prophecies etc. of watchtower and the phony jw church
and they know that a corrupt tree can only produce evil
and yet they are happy to remain with satans church
They don't believe many scriptures they don't believe Jesus here:
Mat_7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
what is the evil fruit phony jw produce, they say God is "a god' they say God and the Word is "a two headed god" they say verses relating to Jesus are relating to the Father they say and go to any length to support their satanic doctrines.
they say so much evil, which even I have singled out a little, and made known at this forum.
There are many reputable publications showing that fake jw's are antichrists.
Even their own watchtower and articles condemms itself and evil jw. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:32am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Sarang: I really hate people being disrespectful. Change the bible,where? Waiting for me to be respectful to satans disciples, will be waiting til you die. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:30am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Sarang: lol@evil.. human calling others evil.
I only showed you that if Satan can be referred to as a god,Jesus too can.
2 cor 4 verse 4. jon 1 verse 1. evil jw compares Jesus to satan. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:19am On Apr 22, 2016 |
This verse just a few down show again that it is Jesus speaking:
Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. |