Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:17am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Sarang: I really hate people being disrespectful. Change the bible,where? You are blind, even from a few posts ago, you said " I am Alpha and Omega" in rev 1:8 was the Father when it was Jesus. phony jw lie constantly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:03am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Sarang: Rev 1:1 A revelation given by Jesus christ which God gave him...
It was Jehovah that gave Jesus this revelation and he was acknowledged on verse 8.
ALMIGHTY The word “Almighty” is translated from the Hebrew word Shad·daiʹ and the Greek word Pan·to·kraʹtor. Both words evidently convey the idea of strength or power.
Jehovah used the title “God Almighty” (ʼEl Shad·daiʹ) when making his promise to Abraham concerning the birth of Isaac, a promise requiring that Abraham have great faith in God’s power to carry out that promise.
In the Christian Greek Scriptures the word Pan·to·kraʹtor occurs ten times, nine of them in the book of Revelation. The word basically means “Almighty,” or “All Powerful.”
Similarly, throughout Revelation the title Pan·to·kraʹtor is applied to the Creator and King of Eternity, Jehovah. The title’s application to Jehovah God is made obvious at Revelation 19:6 by the use of the expression Hallelujah (Praise Jah, you people!).
Likewise, the expression “the One who is and who was and who is coming” (Re 1:8; 4:8. clearly points to the God of eternity (Ps 90:2), who not only “was” the Almighty in ancient times but continues to be so and “is coming” as such with an expression of his all-powerfulness phony jw again and again change the Bible The Father gave Revelation to Jesus this was not John acknowledging the Father in red is Jesus Speaking. johnw74: Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
It is Jesus Christ that is coming with clouds, and John also shows that in saying "and they also which pierced him" Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
It is Jesus Christ giving revelation to John saying "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending", phony jw does call Jesus "Jehovah" they translate Lord (kurios) as "Jehovah" Here is Jesus speaking again to John: Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Mat_7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:55am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668: You are talking as if you don't know him, jman5 calls him phony and someone who was once like him has seen the truth and told him he is even blinder than blind. He keeps repeating the same things over and over again. He and his cohorts no longer have time for themselves again all they do is wallow in anger and hate, Next thing they'll open another thread and start their slanderous message again. If I see theae unserious fellow I always ignore them, let them wallow in their hate and anger. He always judge and condemn yet he can't identify with any religious group, who does that? Again he has refused to tell us the better organization since he knows all, until he do so he will remain insignificant. Those who are honest no longer takes him serious, they way he lie even make the devil to fear. However, I talk to you about you, and not to somebody else like a sniveling coward.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:48am On Apr 22, 2016 |
dolphinheart: and you go blank when you read rev 1:1 abi!
the blankness continues when you read verses 4 to 6 too!
Those who want to know the truth read all of it! not only some parts that favour their beliefs.
and after your eyes where opened to this verse, it went blank again when it got to rev 3: 2,12. cuS none of you have found the courage to say who you think is making that speech!
you accuse those who translate kurios as Jehovah, yet you will say nothing against those who translated the name of God as Lord!, see human imperfection at its best. evil jw who calls the Word "a god" and who calls God and the Word per John 1:1 "a two headed god" Says this verse is not Jesus speaking but is the Father, phony jw change the Bible all over the place, what a suprise, not. johnw74: Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
It is Jesus Christ that is coming with clouds, and John also shows that in saying "and they also which pierced him" Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
It is Jesus Christ giving revelation to John saying "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending", phony jw does call Jesus "Jehovah" they translate Lord (kurios) as "Jehovah" Mat_7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:36am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Sarang: 2cor 4:4 Among whom the god of the this system of things..
In the above text Satan is refered to as a god,and you think it's inapproriate for Jesus to be?
Col 1 verse 14"by means of whom we have our release by ransom,the forgiveness of our sins. 15"He is the image of the invisible God,the firstborn of God's creation. Here clearly shows that it's Jesus. First,by his death we were saved. Secondly,he was made in God's image. In other words he too was created.
But know this,Jehovah has been referred to countless times as the ancient of days. The one existing even before.....alll days.
Clearly Jehovah and Jesus are two distinctive individuals. evil jw compares Jesus with satan more Bible verses corrupt jw don't believe: johnw74: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
More showing that the Word is God and not "a god" Mat_7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 10:29am On Apr 21, 2016 |
^^^ Jesus was not talking of works that even self righteous and evil people do He was talking about the works of God Jesus started by warning against false prophets, such as the supposed jw's
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
verse 15 is Jesus describing phony jw to a T. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 7:36am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit, of course the answer is no. Charles Taze Russell began gathering his followers after he founded the watchtower bible and tract society, that the so called jehovahs witnesses get their beliefs from Unlike so many other false teachers before and after him, Russell did not rely upon visions or other extra-biblical revelation. Rather, he simply interpreted, and misinterpreted, the Bible. While claiming to be a Christian http://www.challies.com/articles/the-false-teachers-charles-taze-russell1000 cases of child sexual abuse not reported to the police that occurred in Australian JW's circles.? Reported by the Australia Royal commission into institutional sexual child abuse. Shame shame shame.? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3175840/Jehovah-s-Witnesses-destroyed-1000-cases-child-sexual-abuse-1950-protect-wives-Royal-Commission-told.htmlsupposed jw have given very many false prophecies they have changed what the Bible says, and so much more, so it can be seen by just those few things that phony jw is corrupt Christians believe Jesus when He said "a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit" Mat_7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Yes that is speaking of much of christendom, and is certinally speaking of fake jw. Look here and find out more about the evils of fake jw's: www.jwfacts.comand here: https://carm.org type jehovahs witnesses in their search box the internet if full off info. on the evils of fake jw. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:43am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
More showing that the Word is God and not "a god" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:35am On Apr 21, 2016*. Modified: 5:05am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
It is Jesus Christ that is coming with clouds, and John also shows that in saying "and they also which pierced him" Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
It is Jesus Christ giving revelation to John saying "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending", phony jw does call Jesus "Jehovah" they translate Lord (kurios) as "Jehovah" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unbelievable Quote From Watchtower Publications! by johnw74: 3:05am On Apr 21, 2016 |
goodnews201668: My sister he is a shameless slander and hateful liar ooo, just seeking for attention. The devil will even be disappointed with the way they lie, the have collected his title as the father of lie from him.  no matter how many times you lie, Christians know that the father of lies is the phony jw's god. Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 1:30am On Apr 21, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 1:02am On Apr 21, 2016 |
clementy117: I followed this thread because i taught there will be some objectivity, but all the is here is apathy, bigotry and apostasy. AM OUT.
HINT: if you want to take JW to your doom side you have to be more subtler and know the scriptures and not just copy and paste things.
I joined the jw not because they are perfect but because the sincerely want to learn about God and live properly. When i meet guys like you and other apostate am convinced i made a good choice. he didn't join phony jw because they were perfect he joined phony jw because their founder was corrupt he joined phony jw because their prophecies were fake he joined phony jw because they corrupt the bible etc etc etc duh  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:50am On Apr 21, 2016 |
clementy117: I followed this thread because i taught there will be some objectivity, but all the is here is apathy, bigotry and apostasy. AM OUT.
HINT: if you want to take JW to your doom side you have to be more subtler and know the scriptures and not just copy and paste things.
I joined the jw not because they are perfect but because the sincerely want to learn about God and live properly. When i meet guys like you and other apostate am convinced i made a good choice. don't slam the door on your way out |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:49am On Apr 21, 2016 |
clementy117: You don't understand the Bible... You couldn't refute my point or the Bible verses I cited. phony jw cannot help but lie. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:40am On Apr 21, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:33am On Apr 21, 2016 |
clementy117: Paul you left the truth all i will say to u is Return to Jehovah. JW AND GB are not perfect and you and I knows there are no other organization out there trying to follow the Bible as they do. What rot changing the Bible is not following it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:32am On Apr 21, 2016 |
clementy117: So what's your point? Jesus was lifted above other heavenly sons of God by God himself,Act 2vs 36, 1Pet 3 vs 22, Though everything was subjected to him, the Almighty God was not among.
He was created Col 1vs 15 and 16. He was then used as a master worker to create all things Prov 8 vs 22, 23, 30 n 31.
There are occasions where Jesus is call God (isa9vs6, John 1 vs 1, John 20 vs 24-29, , does this means he is the Almighty? No!!!! Those verse clearly supports Jesus' divinity. They are in now way saying he is equal to his father. He himself said it the father is greater than i am John 14vs 28. He refers to his father as his God John 20vs17,. So, concerning John20 vs 24-29, Thomas may have addressed Jesus as “my God” in the sense of Jesus’ being “a god” though not the Almighty God, not “the only true God,” to whom Thomas had often heard Jesus pray. ( John 17 vs 3 ).
So the above quoted verses are not contradictory but support JW teachings. Nonsense and more lies from phony jw the below verses I quoted don't support phony jw teachings the below verses show Jesus is not an angel the below verses show Father God called Jesus God phony jw lies all over the place changing God's inspired word to suit their demonic doctrines Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Chrtistians? by johnw74: 12:43am On Apr 20, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 12:31am On Apr 20, 2016 |
satan began gathering his followers after his fall from Grace and Heaven Charles Taze Russell began gathering his followers after he founded the watchtower bible and tract society, that the so called jehovahs witnesses get their beliefs from Unlike so many other false teachers before and after him, Russell did not rely upon visions or other extra-biblical revelation. Rather, he simply interpreted, and misinterpreted, the Bible. While claiming to be a Christian http://www.challies.com/articles/the-false-teachers-charles-taze-russelltaze is the founder of the so called jehovahs witnesses, can a rotten apple ever turn good, of course the answer is no. so called jehovahs witnesses to this day continue to blaspheme God calling Him "a god" and even " a two headed god" |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 1:07pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
^^^ phony jw lie and twist a very straight forward post, just as they do the scriptures.
The writer of Hebrews testifies that the Father never called an angel His son
etc, and the writer also testifies that Father God called His Son "God", and the writer himself testifies that
Jesus is not an angel. But supposed jw's don't believe the testimony of the writer of Hebrews, and the so called jw's don't believe the
testimony of Father God.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also
he made the worlds; Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by
the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name
than they. Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And
again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of
God worship him. Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is
the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Father God said of the angels," who made them spirits" but to the Son He said,Thy throne "O God" is for ever and ever.
The writer of Hebrewes and Father God show a clear distinction between the angels and the Son in all these verses.
supposed jw's change and twist the plain words, and try to make these sentences say something else.
supposed jw's don't believe the writer of Hebrews and supposed jw's don't believe Father God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 10:55am On Apr 19, 2016 |
^^^ phony jw who don't believe all the Bible verses posted showing that the Word is God and that He isn't an angel and that Father God Himself called the Word Jesus Christ "God" but instead they blaspheme God and call Him "a god" and "a two headed God"
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
phony Jw don't know the Truth, because the Truth is not in them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 4:58am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Freksy: Jozzy4 said it all.
So long! yes jozzy say's so much, not much true though Jozzy4: the johnw guy ....
....but I like him Ha ha  |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 4:43am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Freksy: Jozzy4 said it all.
So long! Yes jozzy says a lot of rubbish good riddance phony |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 12:39am On Apr 19, 2016 |
The writer of Hebrews testifies that the Father never called an angel His son etc, and the writer also testifies that Father God called His Son "God", and the writer himself testifies that Jesus is not an angel. But supposed jw's don't believe the testimony of the writer of Hebrews, and the so called jw's don't believe the testimony of Father God.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Father God said of the angels," who made them spirits" but to the Son He said,Thy throne "O God" is for ever and ever.
The writer of Hebrewes and Father God show a clear distinction between the angels and the Son in all these verses.
supposed jw's change and twist the plain words, and try to make these sentences say something else.
supposed jw's don't believe the writer of Hebrews and supposed jw's don't believe Father God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Compilation Of 1975 end of the world Watchtower Quotes by johnw74: 12:30am On Apr 19, 2016 |
^^^  and that's only one of the very many of fake jw's false predictions |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 12:18am On Apr 19, 2016*. Modified: 3:05am On Jun 28, 2016 |
goodnews201668: Boy grow up na, this is already stale.
You sound like a broken record, you're just here throwing tantrums and making noise up and down yet you can't make any single sense.
Must you die in falsehood?
Quote me this time only if you'll make sense. You fake jw antichrists don't understand sense and reject it, you have been blinded for not loving the truth. When you call the Word "a god" you are an antichrist, when you say God, is " a two headed god" you are an abomination to Him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 12:09am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Freksy: If you can't answer simple question(s) concerning your comments, then stop confusing and misleading people.
1. You asserted Jesus is God and is one of the persons in God, is it beyond you to tell us how?
2. You acknowledged the father, the son and the holy spirit were each at different positions, but concluded were together, shouldn't curious minds wonder how?
3. You claimed the three are persons; every person has a name, what is the name of the holy spirit? There is no misleading with me, you are lying, and the confusion is definitely with you. sounds like you probably think the Holy Spirit is "a thing" like fake jw do, perhaps you are fake jw, with that being the case you couldn't be told anything, except perhaps that God is "a god", " a two headed god", you would believe that, go talk with fake jw they understand confusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 11:53pm On Apr 18, 2016*. Modified: 3:03am On Jun 28, 2016 |
dolphinheart: to those who read this thread.
I've said time and time again that those who believe that Jesus is almighty God will never explain the relationship between jesus and the father to you. They know jesus is not the same person as the father yet they endeavor to merge the two of them together. jehovah had said he alone is the Almighty God and no one else except him. Jesus has said that only the father is the only true God, but some will prefer to force jesus to assume that position too. Jesus has shown us that the father is his God and our God , but some will want to another person as our God. Jesus has always shown subjection to the father, but some no gree, they want jesus to take up equality with the father. Jesus has been exalted to sit beside our God who is the most high, but some will want jesus to sit where the most high God is sitting. God gave jesus the Revelation, but some will prefer that the revelation came from Jesus, cus they call him almighty God.
pls notice, you would or will ask these people about their beliefs, but they will not be able to explain to you, they will not be able to explain how the word can be with God and still be that same God, how the word can be God and still have a beginning. more importantly, they will not be able to answer or explain or use any of the numerous scriptures I've quoted so far on these thread.
They want you to believe without details, but I encourage you to ask questions, the answers will help in your quest for knowledge and search for the truth. ask them: does jesus have a god? is he the same person as this God? is he equal to his God? or is he subjected to his God? who gave jesus authority, did he give himself or was given? did Jesus ever claim to be almighty God? who anointed jesus? who is that person to jesus? when Jesus was is the presence of God, was he the same person as the God he was in presence of? who sent jesus, was the person who sent jesus superior to jesus?
the answers to these questions and more supported by scripture verses, will help those who want to know the truth, know it.
John 1:1 14th century - Wycliffe's Bible (from the 4th-century Latin Vulgate ) reads: "In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word.
1808 “and the Word was a god” - Thomas Belsham The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome ’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text , London.
1822 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament in Greek and English (A. Kneeland, 1822.);
1829 "and the Word was a god." - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829);
1863 "and the Word was a god." - A Literal Translation Of The New Testament (Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick Parker], 1863);
1864 “the LOGOS was God, This was in the Beginning with God” A New Emphatic Version (right hand column)
1864 “and a god was the Word” (left hand column interlinear reading) The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson , New York and London.
1867 “In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God” - The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible .
1879 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (J. Becker, 1979);
1885 "and the Word was a god." - Concise Commentary On The Holy Bible ( R. Young , 1885);
1911 "and the Word was a god." - The Coptic Version of the N.T. (G. W. Horner, 1911);
1935 “and the Word was divine” - The Bible — An American Translation, by John M. P. Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed, Chicago.
1955 “so the Word was divine” - The Authentic New Testament, by Hugh J. Schonfield , Aberdeen.
1956 The Wuest Expanded Translation reads: “In the beginning the Word was existing. And the Word was in fellowship with God the Father. And the Word was as to His essence absolute deity”
1958 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Anointed" (J. L. Tomanec, 1958);
1962, 1979 "'the word was God.' Or, more literally, 'God was the word.'" The Four Gospels and the Revelation (R. Lattimore, 1979)
1966, 2001 The Good News Bible reads: "...and he was the same as God."
1970, 1989 The Revised English Bible reads: "...and what God was, the Word was."
1975 " and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word" Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, by Siegfried Schulz, Göttingen, Germany
1975 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (S. Schulz, 1975);
1978 “and godlike sort was the Logos” - Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin.
1993 The Word was first, the Word present to God, God present to the Word. The Word was God, in readiness for God from day one. - The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson.
one thing is sure , the apostles told us who our God is , and they recorded it, so that we can be protected from man made doctrines. and as christians we should follow what the scriptures says.
King James Version Eph 4:6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
King James Version 1Co 8:5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 1Co 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
King James Version 1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God
do you know and accept the God is the head of christ?
Surely if you accept, you would also accept when the apostles told us who that God is
King James Version Eph 1:17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him
Col 1:3We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, fake jw doesn't believe much of the Bible including John 1:1 they blaspheme God calling Him "a god" and dolphinheart also calls Him " a two headed God" Why people have discussions with sectarians and other non believers, I don't know, but this Christian doesn't waste his time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 10:17am On Apr 18, 2016 |
Freksy: If the father was in heaven, the son on earth and the holy spirit descended from the heaven, how were the three entities still together and in one thing you call "God"?
Jesus is God and still one of the persons in God, how? You will have to work out your own confusion. perhaps start here: Luk_3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. |
Christianity Etc › Re: J C i G by johnw74(op): 10:09am On Apr 18, 2016*. Modified: 11:37am On Apr 18, 2016 |
dolphinheart: who is the Christian God ?
King James Bible One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
King James Bible But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
King James Bible Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.!
King James Bible Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
those that believe in 2 headed god , two persons in 1 god, can never ever adress those scriptures, they will always act as if it did not exist. perverse fake jw dolphinheart again blasphemes God, calling God and the Word, who is the one true God, a "two headed god" Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. They don't believe that verse and change what is says to call God "a god", because they have no understanding, not having the Holy Spirit, they have been blinded through having no Love of the truth. It's easy to see fake jw are part of satans church, calling God, "a god", "a two headed god" Their lot is the LAKE OF FIRE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Will World Be A Better Place Without Jehovah Witnesses by johnw74: 2:01am On Apr 18, 2016 |
paulGrundy: Blind man Good one Paul, are you sure you are not me? dumb jw mano will be pulling his hair out now wondering if I am you or you are me.  blind jw mano, makes up lies and then believes his own lies satan certainly has them in his grip. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Jehovah Witness Not Given Attention by johnw74: 1:55am On Apr 18, 2016 |
fake jw won't let you go analice, as you see, they like to argue and cause strife, they are nothing like Jehovah, they are like their god though. |