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HCpaul:Yes this is what the story says.. Muhammed also claimed to be a great prophet of God who even split the moon and rode a flying horse operating under a high frequency of heaven of earth. That is the story, and bringing out the story no matter how you put the story can never make such stories true.. empirical back up can be in form of a demonstration.. |
1feness:I won't dare slap him, remember we are debating in front of an audience not wrestling . so i will use the slap against him in the debate, and over here we are taught not to ever touch elderly people according to Igbo tradition. Thats what baffles me when i see people lynching old women calling them witches.. |
HCpaul: Wait, do you think a debate is reciting biblical verses? Is that the loaded you think? Lol.. Paul you need to update.. Knowing the bible means nothing in such a debate my brother. We talking Logic and facts. The man will defeate you.well, maybe we will find out one day if it is possible.. But what about my local church pastor that just came from kenya? Am in Enugu, any way we could organize? |
hahn:I think a video documented debate will make more sense now. I will buy drinks too to make it an enjoyable discussion.. |
1feness:Oyedepo no fit slap me na.. i am a young man not a little girl. Besides that will be a social scandal too.. Imagine the news headlines. "Oyedepo frustrated in a debate, slaps young man .. " |
HCpaul: I wish i can have an open debate with Oyedepo.. that will be the day your heart will be broken because you will discover how little your pastor knows. As long as Oyedepo doesn't attack my person like making remarks like this "This young man is leading himself to hell" that will be unacceptable, as long as he sticks with plain debate and not personal remarks then we are good.. |
hahn:Lol.. i have had debates with religious people, none of them have killed me yet. Most people treat the position of atheism/ agnosticism and theism to be enmity but its not |
hahn:Hahahaha you will get it .. |
HCpaul: Yeah i wouldn't be surprised if someone like you did, maybe you also think someone not playing playing any sports is another type of sports. But i really want to be free with you guys, because i have many important things to discuss with you. I am always open for a good discussion.. I always ignore most of your threads when you start making ridiculous remarks instead of bringing out constructive points. well if you are close by we can have real face to face documented discussions.. |
hahn: Yeah Nigerian Christians can be quite violent as in the case of lynching Old women calling them witches or little children. But that'd be a different scenario from having an intellectual debate.. no insults, no ad hominems .. we will talk as debating friends and make jokes too with utmost respect for each other.. |
1feness: I would disagree with this, nobody was really born an atheist or theist.. for some to either believe or disbelieve something, that person must be aware of such thesis. but nobody was born being aware of the deity thesis ..so nobody was born either believing it (theist) or disbelieving it (atheism) i'd say Agnostic because it encompasses the position of neither believing or disbelieving a thesis.. |
1feness:Hahahaha that'd be a trade mark of muslims.. can never debate a muslim unless with armed escorts like police. But at least with my Christian brothers and sisters there would be less possibility of a violent turn out.. Just a fun filled debate with a good audience.. |
hahn: I will like something like that offline offline.. |
HCpaul:Hahahaha actually the spiritual part is what i am there to debunk.. But before then, were you born an atheist? we were all born without the knowledge of any deity .. so you neither believe or disbelieve them until someone starts filling your head with outright absurd myths.. so you could say we were all born Agnostics.. that includes you tho I have something to tell you. Please is it about our offline real life preaching? i will love to have you preach to me in front of an audience and a camera.. who knows you might convert me with your spiritual knowledge bro.. |
hahn:Any of them can put up, the more the better... They can be 3 or more.. the main thing is get together.. we can/may have a small audience and a small stage.. then the preaching .... sorry debate starts.. well documented by a video camera.. it will be fun.. |
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I wish one of you nairalanders could preach to me before or lets say we have a discussion in real life not online.. Face to face We will film the whole discussion or debate and upload it on youtube and share it for nairalanders to watch. How about that .. |
virginboy1: Lol.. i did everyone has the right to hold any belief they want no matter how ridiculous it may seem to others. She thinks someone, a kind of humanoid somewhere created everything .. then this thing that is big enough to create the whole universe, powerful enough to create the whole universe and everything in it.. Comes to a lone small tiny planet and is begging humans to worship it and is worrying over whether you have sex or not and then loves jews more than others.. It's not only absurd, it is a nonsensical idea but well people can hold what ever belief they need to give themselves a moral compass. If anybody needs some fairy in the sky to tell them whether they should masturbate or not, or tell them not to kill. then you have every reason to be afraid of such persons because they can kill you when ever they think that fairy told them to.. |
hahn:Sure do... |
hahn: Lol.. it was a Geographical weathering.. https://www.viewzone2.com/noah111.jpg those are rocks not wood and wood don't fossilize.. Apologists will sell just about anything these days.. |
hahn:Sumerian flood deluge predates every other by almost 1000years.. Its actually exactly the same motif, style and theme with that of Noah the only difference is that the God in this case is Ea and the man is Gilgamesh and the sumerians wrote theirs even before there was anything like Isreal or jews. And Ea over heard other Gods plotting to flood the whole earth not he himself wanted to flood it.. You can find the flood myths from every culture here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth.. I have an e-book of Gilgamesh epic too ... its a nice book.. |
Dolypson04:Bro no Noah's ark was discovered on any mountain in turkey.. The Noah's flood story is a younger version of an older sumerian flood story found in Epic of Gilgamesh and Ziusudra . I have always believed more in biblical events. It is chronological with event dates well documented unlike that other book solely between an angel and one man. Fact. No offence! Troy and Greece were actual bronze age civilizations in this planet with archeological back up... That doesn't make the story of Odysseus travelling to tartarus true as recorded in Homers Iliad or Perseus having a flying horse. Mount Olympus is an actual mountain in Greece even till today remains the tallest mountain in greece.. (Hellinistic greeks believed it was the abode of Zeus and the Gods) that mount Olympus is an actual mountain doesn't make the claim of Zeus and other Hellenistic Gods living on it true.. so learn the difference between myths within an actual setting.. |
eposho: If it is confirmed by the archeological community then it is a very good development.. It will help more to make out the actual history of the Hebrews which is nice... Its a nice development... |
Christianity is older than Islam by almost 6 centuries.. |
armadeo: Gas giants are entirely made of Gas with a solid core.. though Neptune and Uranus differs and so are mostly referred to as Ice Giants |
God got you into the mess in the first place right? This is where religious people amaze me.. Attributing results of their own action to God in order to escape or bear responsibility for their own decision and actions.. |
demolagilbert:Phenomenons that have no explanations YET are phenomenons that require to be studied, scrutinized... Once anything is studied, the whole picture becomes clearer the main problem is studying it.. As a scientist which you say you are asserting that things defy explanations can never be explained makes one question what exactly you mean by claiming a scientist.. Because last i checked science never asserts nothing can be explained, only the necessary approach needs to be taken. Ancient men couldn't explain what the milky way band was, now we have .. nothing is beyond ascertaining as long as you have the right approach and means towards that subject. Till today despite that we have studied the blood and know virtually all that there is to know about it, science still cannot make blood.....and dats even citing something as comprehensible as blood.So you are banking on the gap of what is in order to get a basis? that is starkly shallow. Humans never knew how to grow flesh in the lab, now we do... Meats are being grown in the lab from one single cell, human flesh is being regrown instead of using plastic. Gaps left by ignorance is never supposed to be filled by assumptions.. How can science explain how a simple pituitary gland controls the entire body without fail from birth till death. The pituitary gland is so amazing it know what your body needs, or even what you want to think or feel before hand..Its so amazing yet it over secretes in some and results to Gigantism and under secretes in many and results to dwarfism.. I thought you claimed to be a scientist yet for one with such claim you sound very off the hook.. there is never a stipulated way of natural manifestation. Please stop roping your ignorance of a premise as a basis to instigate correctness of an assumption. how can science explain how the most complex machine known as the brain came into being from series of simple cell divisions.it is quite simple, interactions of different and distinct simple cells results into a larger and complex result.. Look at it critically, and you will find that from the very simple to the very complex, even the strides of science are still small fragments of a much much bigger picture. Science is great but it is limited.I wonder if you view science as some kind of knowledge fountain. Science is study, if there is nothing unanswered will there be need to study? Science is a method of systematic deduction through consistent study to reach a truthful approximation and never at any point asserts to have reached an absolute truth because it recognizes that there is no limit to what is to learn. No offence meant but you don't sound to me like one scientifically inclined. That's my take. As per my life's experiences, i would know better. I don't need to over-flog that. Burning of flesh? Lets be specific, we'r talkin animal flesh. None of all the numerous rites conducted during that foregone era are of any relevance in our time. A heartfelt prayer more than suffices. I do not see how even in the least sense address the point.. something big enough to create the universe comes to a small rocky dot and is asking for the smell of burnt animals because it loves you. None of you ever realize how ridiculous you all sound regurgitating such absurd savagery.. And if you look at it critically right from the start, GOD never got it wrong, Man did and always has. Tell a child not to touch a flame n you can bet he/she will.. n only learn from the burn that will follow. It's inherent. I wont bother going into the doctrines, Not when there is no need to keep the flame there in the first place.. i do not need to even banter of such ridiculous myths here.. it is plain myth and has no sway of reality. That you believe such stories by the jews (not even your own people) is your own cup of tea and a product of your own gullibility. commandments, rites or comparative analysis of Old vs. New testament ish..none of that. There's a saying that if you dont stand for something, you fall for anything. My stand? I go about my daily bizniz whilst recognizing that force that flung the sun to burn in space,But gravity is responsible for this, gravity is responsible for the sun you see, for the nuclear fusion that makes it burn not some humanoid and gravity is not a force sir but an effect due to space/time distortion. . . . So much for claiming to be a scientist. that painted the night skies with stars,And you keep woowing me with such absurd comment... the stars were not painted into the night sky but are visible because that part of the planet is facing away from the sun and so the distant light source can be visible. Am sure you know this, "painting the night sky with stars" is a incredibly nonsensical statement and keeps making one wonder what it takes to claim scientist when ridiculous ancient beliefs still influence your thinking. It is hugely disappointing. that did not cause my stomach to be disintegrated by the same acid it produces. And he doesnt need me, nor my dad, or mum, or any future kids i might have to be GOD. He just IS. I KNOW i need him, i choose to believe he is the source of all i am and have, and all that i will be and will have. And here lies that preposterous belief.. attributing unrelated events to some assumptive mythical humanoid that has anger issues somewhere.. Well everyone has the right to believe what ever they want or even to think the rain is because the Gods are pissing.. sharing this belief in public is when i challenge and refute it.. |
No one can ever really hope to change the world unless you change yourself first.. How can Buhari hope to fight corruption when his very team are the corrupt officials. How can Buhari fight corruption when he is not any better than those he accuse like IBB reminded him. How can Buhari fight corruption when he is dinning with the very people that are corrupt. How can he fight corruption when his method of fighting corruption (excluding some) is corruption itself. Holier than thou doesn't make any one holier One can never fight himself, so too is the condition with Buhari and corruption fighting.. |
Teempakguy:where is lalasticlala and mynd44 ...? |
uzoonyx:Everything is normal, what we call abnormal are things that don't work the way we expected. How are we sure we are not the abnormal ones... |
macof:Its quite sad. |
Culin:You see people... she is only interested in the diamond planet... No wonder diamonds are girls best friend |
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