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Christianity Etc › Re: Open Minded Discussions by johnydon22(m): 12:24am On Nov 27, 2015

rickfreeman:
let me start by asking this question, u can answer or add yours, but let's respect each other please

does the fact that you don't understand a concept mean that its wrong?

Nope not at all, concepts can only be disproved by scrutiny of the tenets of such concepts.

But when the one propounding the concept itself does not even understand it in the first place then the concept is not far from being wronger than wrong

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God. by johnydon22(m): 6:11pm On Nov 26, 2015

sonmvayina:
In all the council..from Nicea to vatican 2, where all attended by men..not a single woman was present in those meetings..so the men did what they do best subjugate women...

Most religions have always been misogynistic . . .Take a look at the bible or Quran as a case study... the glaring discrimination and relegation of women is stupendous..

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 6:01pm On Nov 26, 2015

Cc. lalasticlala

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are The Atheist Not Seeing This? by johnydon22(m): 5:41pm On Nov 26, 2015

Muhammed said humans eat, gbaaaam atheist where are you can't you see muhammed knew humans eat in the quran therefore God exists

The type of daft arguments people put up these days is almost boring me to death..

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 5:13pm On Nov 26, 2015

thundafire:
GEJ legacy nd soon lai mohammed nd his kunu drinkers will soon claim dy glory GEJ may u live long cs anytym ur achievement is mentioned ur enemies do have nightmares like,e-rats,keyamo,lai mohammed,APC as a whole

That is if it doesn't drop way too low soon..

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 5:11pm On Nov 26, 2015

menesheh:
Nigeria have outgrown this sort of person as a president. It is demeaning and belittling.

It is embarrassing... A country of 170million settled for a one time military head of state, old and half educated to lead her in the 21st century. . . Instead of moving with time we went back more than 30 years backwards

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 5:00pm On Nov 26, 2015

Kyase:
Shatap if the news was "Nigeria drop to 35" would you say its Gej's legacy?
Baba carry go.

Forget the emotional attachment here, We all know the line between Goodluck's achievements with that of Buhari for now this government is still a bit young.

Give your baba few more years and we will check Nigeria's position in the World economy list then you can know if you will shout baba carry go..

for now don't give another man's credit to another because you are emotionally attached to one.

This is glaringly Goodluck's handwork. . . Say other wise betrays a lot of naivety and blind sentiment

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 4:57pm On Nov 26, 2015

modath:
But does the ratio of the unemployed outclass the employed ...

2/3 of US & China are not living from hand to mouth...

You can never hope to Jump from where you were to where China or U.S is now in a day..

What was U.S.A doing 60 years after their independence, they were still busy killing each other fighting a civil war over who needs slaves and who don't.. Now they are here after more than 250 years of independence.. 70 years ago 80% of Nigeria still have no idea what really a car is..

Nigeria can never jump to the level of U.S and China in a day, we are barely in our 50s after independence, development is a slow but consistent process that achieves desired results with time..

we only need leaders that care ..

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Politics › Re: Latest IMF Figures Show Nigeria As World's 22nd Largest Economy by johnydon22(m): 4:33pm On Nov 26, 2015

modath:
All these statistics that don't reflect the reality of the citizens day to day existence are just tiring...

22nd Largest economy & youths by their 22nd bithdays are still begging parents & older relatives for small change to recharge their phones!!!! Issokay!!

Even China and U.s the largest economies still have unemployed, homeless people, poor people and what have you... not only in Nigeria.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Nairalanders; I Am Not An Atheist. by johnydon22(m): 8:30pm On Nov 25, 2015

Ymodulus:
Let me just use the term AGNOSTIC. From her post above she is just an Agnostic.

Reading all through her write up here equates Agnosticism.

Agnosticism = Boundary line belief of god existence; Dont want to fall in any side of the divides; they believe there is much more than we know; they believe no one can know exactly.

Agnosticism mostly leans on either of the both positions. . . You would see someone who leans towards the position of agnosticism but in actuality do not believe any of the God claims around, that position makes that person atheistic, like myself (Agnostic Atheist)

One may also be agnostic but in that unsure wit tends to lean towards a small amount of belief or a particular religion all the while admitting to be unsure of the actuality of such God concept. that position makes them theitic too..

MzMyColi can be deducted to be agnostic in essence but yet in a little way leans towards a belief even though obviously it is an unsure one. . . I respect such positions.
(Agnostic Theism)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Nairalanders; I Am Not An Atheist. by johnydon22(m): 7:44pm On Nov 25, 2015

Tallesty1:
You're an atheist Mizz.

She is not atheistic from what she provided up there, not just sure what she disbelieves or believes .. Looking from the post it is clear enough she finds many God attributes to be disturbing and so chooses to disbelieve them and believe the ones that goes well with her own reason.

You can not dub her an atheist when she clearly stated up there she believed in God though there is a little touch of confusion, conflicting views and unsure dishonesty.

she cherry-picks what to believe

I call that " Conflict of "Faith and Reason" "Belief and Reality" it is a remarkable journey am sure she will with time come to be in full control of what she believes or not, she will find or realize where she truly lies or what in general is in coincide to her reason.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Nairalanders; I Am Not An Atheist. by johnydon22(m): 7:40pm On Nov 25, 2015

menesheh:
I sensed confusion, contradictions, semantic tricks and dishonesty in this post

It is glaringly clear

Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Nairalanders; I Am Not An Atheist. by johnydon22(m): 6:29pm On Nov 25, 2015

Hahahahahahaha Quite funny ...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Moslems Are Now Turning To Atheism. by johnydon22(m): 8:05pm On Nov 24, 2015

There are far more Agnostics, atheists, deists or generally people who find the Islamic faith to be absurd in the Muslim world than we know..

But most of these people are afraid because of the huge threat the society they are in poses if they acknowledge such in the open.

They might be mauled, beaten, killed and put through many inhumane treatments just because of it so many choose to remain in the closet and pretend.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Did You Know Japan Bans Islam And ALL Muslims? by johnydon22(m): 6:45pm On Nov 23, 2015

Annunaki:
Definitely more countries will follow suit.

Very good development but my question is "what if it was Christianity they banned?

Am sure you would have been shouting "Persecution" "End time" "Anti-Christ" "Devilish country" we are all smiley now that islam is the victim of ban in Japan, i only hope you won't react differently if Christianity happens to be the case my brother..

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Nairaland General › Re: 15 Threads Have Made Front Page Since Late Prince Abubakar Audu's Death by johnydon22(m): 5:40pm On Nov 23, 2015

and lalasticlala can't even consider moving science threads to the front page..

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Science/Technology › Re: Why Is It That Africans Are Not Scientific Inclined? by johnydon22(m): 10:55am On Nov 23, 2015*

[b] There are two factors that contributed to the kind of pitiable state of Africans or Africa in terms of Science..

Cultural factor: A kind of mindset that Science is a foreign culture, Cultural restrictions and an undying effects of such dangerous mindset to the curiosity of a young mind in scientific enquiry.

Idiotic superstition have bolted Africans into such a state of chronic idiocy that most times it is sad to watch.

A bird fell from the sky---> Scientifically for one to ascertain what really went wrong with the creature, enquiry and deep study of the details and available datas can reveal such.

To an African -----> It's witchcraft.

Someone gets a headache, witches and enemies did it..

Religious Factor:: I have often watched in total sadness and dismay as many young minds on nairaland tag Science the work of devil..

How can Science in african ever improve when religious beliefs have murdered the minds of the youths, when their curiosity to know what is has been killed, when the youths see results of consistent deductions and approximations (science) to be an enemy because most of their dearly held ridiculous religious beliefs falls to mere idiocy in the face of scientific explanation.

therefore science is seen as an enemy..

We can never improve scientifically in this age that is marked by scientific wonders if we keep deluding our youths with such absurd ideas.

I have always affirmed that the only way to murder the intellectual development of our species is to indoctrinate in them as children unsubstantiated beliefs and superstitions of primitive men..

African is a typical case study.. [/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Atheists Disbelieve In Impersonal God? by johnydon22(m): 7:39am On Nov 23, 2015

FOLYKAZE:
Sorry dude, I comprehend the term atheism.

Maybe if you read the OP gently and comprehensively, you will see the angle I am driving at.

Atheism is disbelieve in God. This is all athesm is about.

The question now is what is God?

how can you tell me there is no water in mars when you dont know what water is?

How can you tell me a soup is salty when you didnt taste from it?

How can someone that claim there is no god turn around to ask me what is god again?

This rhetoric questions from dalaman, gayjesus and frank317 who only want to save face because they obviously dont know what they are saying.

You cant tell us something dont exist when you dont even know what that something is.

Just like atheism, I expect much explanation on what you guys mean by God. I know God mean lot of things to different religion. I think I have engaged you on that when you were confusing theism with monotheism. You made the mistake of defining the God in atheism as supreme monotheistic God.

This thread is opened because another atheist define God in the context of atheism as personal God. If we should agree with him, what happen to non-personal or impersonal God?

Does that mean definition of atheism is disbelieve in personal God? What happens to impersonal God? Do you believe or disbelieve it too? Reasons.

This is a very simple question. You guys can share likes and throw insults but pls answer the simple question begging for simple answer.

Johnydon22 defined the God in atheism context as personal God. What then is his stand and other atheists on impersonal God?

johnydon22:
Alright then but i believe i have answered the Question of the thread at least from own part..

You have defined what you think Impersonal Gods are..

And the Question was "Do atheists believe in Impersonal Gods?"

As we have established the definition of that concept i have tendered my answer which is..

"No I don't"

I will like to pretend you didnt see this post on the first page… Please i wouldn't like you to mention me again asking for my stance or asserting that i haven't made my stance clear even right from the first page.

"No i don't believe in impersonal Gods either" i hope am clear now

Christianity Etc › Re: Time To Question God's Existence by johnydon22(m): 7:13am On Nov 23, 2015

frederickokey:
first ask ur self of the magic/miracle behind the creation of the existing things u see around... even urself

WTF Religion have just murdered the minds and intellect of our youths.

How in the world did someone think that planetary formation, an elementary knowledge, a product of gravitational effect on matter is Magic/miracle...

This is why i am against indoctrinating our young minds with unsubstantiated primitive superstition of ancient men..that is the only way to mar the intellectual evolution of our species....Just take a look.. this is sad

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Christianity Etc › Re: Time To Question God's Existence by johnydon22(m): 6:53am On Nov 23, 2015

jaymejate:
Just know that God's not Dead.

Yes bro, God is not dead. . How can God die? For you to assert something is dead you have to show it has ever once lived..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Time To Question God's Existence by johnydon22(m): 6:51am On Nov 23, 2015*

[b] Do not be confused, Belief in God has only FAITH as a basis..

Humans are very much intriguing creatures, we destroy real and visible nature all the while worshipping and revering invisible Gods.

We kill, discriminate, maim real humans to please invisible mute Gods and all these while we have imagined up this God showing up to the rescue.

Trusted and hope for help to come from the sky..

Was God aware of the incident and powerful enough to stop it and willing to stop it? Then why didn't it?

Was it aware, powerful enough but not willing? then why disturb yourself over what doesn't care about you

was it aware, willing but not powerful enough to help? Then it nullifies the all powerful feature

Was it not aware it was happening? Omniscient is murdered

In all this we may always take a second to look around and realize..

As long as there is a planet with conscious beings there will always be negativity and positivity stemming from their relationships ..

There is no aliens comings to attack us, no vampires coming, zombies , deities with anger issues flooding the earth or horse flying legion of deities coming to rapture earth neither is there a devil destroying earth. . . . .The only problem and threat to us is us.

The power to either help or mar this planet rests with us..

In all this i have come to realize that Humans are the only threat to this planet not abstract vague concepts like deities.
Gods do not kill anybody, people do so while shouting "God"

Gods should be able to say "HI" first before being able to do anything or save anyone.

But to me, it is a nobler thing for us to realize there is no help flying down from the sky, to realize our place among the vast deep universe swamming with countless stars, planets and galaxies.

And realize only us can either Help or mar ourselves, that it is a more nobler thing to put visible humans and nature first before any abstract ideas we have conceived like deities

Realize it is our obligations as humans who must live together to love and treat each other right for our continuity [/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Six Types Of Atheists That Exists... (by Reseachers) by johnydon22(m): 6:27am On Nov 23, 2015

CoolUsername:
I'm talking about the bold text, what's the reason behind it?

Oh ok but bold text is not same as shouting, the letters are the same size as yours only the font is different. . . . Well i love the font format i use and that is it sir... that's the reason, because i love it and want to use it...

Christianity Etc › Re: What If You Suddenly Wake Up, Only To Realised You Been Living On A Mere Dream? by johnydon22(m): 12:39am On Nov 23, 2015

TheMoonChild:
This reminds me of the movie The Matrix, who knows? Maybe this is all a dream and the real world is somewhere out there

Let us first live the one we have as we see it and not delude or dwell in such fantasies or we may end up living this one as a shadow of "What if" ..

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Belong To An Occultic Group by johnydon22(m): 12:25am On Nov 23, 2015

castancassy5:
I have be suffering for a long time and I want to join a cult that will make me very rich. Am from Abia state and my number is 08108047848. Pls those with information should comment

[b]

I feel sad very very sad when i read this type of post, how on earth did we get to the stage where our youths think magic and imaginary concepts can solve their economic needs.

There is nothing any abstract concepts or occultic shenanigans can do for you except delude you more into wishful thinking or Con men utilize your gullibility to extort the little money you think you have.

If wishes worked all of us would be billionaires right now.

You better be truthful to yourself and accept these sufferings as they are and recognize you are responsible for your own situations..

Seeing your self as a victim of your circumstance will only diminish your ability to change them.

Many clamor for life without ups and downs forgetting without these negating values it means you are dead.

You are the only one who can help yourself in relation to the societal networks of economic interactions can boost your economic standard higher but it doesn't just poof out in a day..

Rather than complain and ring about looking for easy ways that don't work, You'd better find tangible tactful approach to your problems..

This is the effect of filling our young ones up with nonsensical superstition [/b]

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Six Types Of Atheists That Exists... (by Reseachers) by johnydon22(m): 12:01am On Nov 23, 2015*

hahn:
On second thought, I guess he is being misled by you consistently embolden your fonts. And you know theists have very ~~negative~~ creative imaginations

Hahahaha hahn now your imagination is the one running wild..

i doubt if coolusername is a theist, he is an atheist or agnostic ... There is nothing wrong with his question though..

I just don't understand his basis cus i can't recall always shouting or maybe he mistook me for someone else or probably because i used "o o" in the post he quoted.. i simply have no clue ..

Christianity Etc › Re: The Six Types Of Atheists That Exists... (by Reseachers) by johnydon22(m): 11:42pm On Nov 22, 2015

hahn:
Just say yes and make his day

Hahahahaha abi.. Ok boss

CoolUsername:
Dude, no offense but are you like, always shouting?

Yes sir

Christianity Etc › Re: The Six Types Of Atheists That Exists... (by Reseachers) by johnydon22(m): 10:51pm On Nov 22, 2015

CoolUsername:
Dude, no offense but are you like, always shouting?

If i tell you i understand this then am seriously kidding...

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Christianity Etc › Re: You Only Noticed 5000 People Jesus Fed....why??? by johnydon22(m): 10:13pm On Nov 22, 2015

ByfireByfire:
I agree that your assumption may be possible where there are 500 people. But where it involves 5000 or even 13,000 people the possibility is so remote.

It'll only make meaning to you if you ever saw an event with 5000 seated. However an atheist's mind is already made up. Even a glaring scientifically confirmed truth will turn to a lie to an atheist once Christianity or God gets into the mix.

So don't bother to explain your disbelief cause I already understand and neither will I bother you further. Cheers

WTF are you yapping about

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Christianity Etc › Re: You Only Noticed 5000 People Jesus Fed....why??? by johnydon22(m): 9:32pm On Nov 22, 2015

Hahahahaha let me try to tender an explanation...

There are 5,000 men not counting women and Children include that it stretches up to 13,000 or less or more..

Let me assume the venue was a hill side with hills bordering each side, the crowd being extremely quiet could help propagate even a slight sound wave, the direction of the breeze in relation to the position of the crowd and that of Jesus can also move the sound wave farther.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Arch-bishop Of Canterbury Doiubts Existence Of God Becos Of Paris Attack by johnydon22(m): 9:19pm On Nov 22, 2015

End time things .... Hey guys can i send you my bank account so you can send me all your money because nobody should need that, we in the End times

Well for the Ach-Bishop, That is his business. . .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Athiests And Their Logic (how Logical) by johnydon22(m): 9:06pm On Nov 22, 2015*

BETATRON:
lol..it isn't an emotional yarn or something close to that ( how can saying there should be a painter behind a painting be an emotional plea?)

Not when the paint is a self replicating value. . .Likening Biological development to inanimate things like a paint is not only shallow but absurd.. Wish you people proofread your arguments.

A leaf is green going by your logic it must have been painted by someone..lol.. But it was just a result of Chlorophyll and that is it..

Chemical reactions are the result of liveless element fusing together.saying they only give what the possess I mean the compound produced should also be liveless..countless chemical reactions have been performed by men of intelligence and scientific assent yet non has resulting in the emergence of life..so for life to have sprung out from some chemical reaction we need a more knowledgeable scientist so to speak

Pheeeew i do not know you all liken Chemical and Biological elemental interactions to Lab Chemistry..

Biological metabolisms otherwise called LIFE in plain words is not a lab chemistry like you just naively represented above.

There are countless distinct values in a biological, chemical, electrical and even quantumized sense in this regard.

lol..I don't think it is the result of chance..first is He is not bounded by time and space and as such is infinite..in einstein's theory when to twins (one taken to space(moving at a great speed relative to the speed of light) and the other kept here on earth,on bringing both together after some time it is realized that the one taken to space is younger than that kept here on earth-time dilation) from this law what do you think will happen if a being exists outside the bound of time and space??

-First there is no way for you to ascertain anything lives outside space and time unless you assume it up.

- If there is also such that thing also would be bound by the tenets of such reality and so your assumptions it needs no beginning is a special pleading to shield your assumption from the principle of causality which you insist the universe must have

- Going by your assertion something cannot give what it doesn't have: This thing is not material how then can it give what it doesn't have.

- Now i wil let you to start ruminating over that your assertion of an intelligent conscious nothingness..

Chance is millions of trillions of cells coming together and using the law of probability created something(the universe) within which a lot of precision and calculation is seen....its like trying to pick number one from a box with countless numbers

[b] Oh there is nothing like precision in universal effect.

Gravitational effect is responsible for complexity of the universe as we know it, The universe is nature and nature as we know it has no one way of manifestation.

A blackhole breaks almost all the laws of physics in our reality therefore affirming that natural manifestations in reaction to the interacting values have no one established or precise way of manifestation..

The universe as can be observed is just a Chaotic dance of interactions and results, it is not a precise establishment that asteroids crash into planets ..

What you call precision is the effect of your own perception of these results, A sand dune i can also classify to be Precise therefore was drawn by an invisible artist or the Face of Mars
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRC2j54DDK8V9APVyL2lAC08anXuwoQe_Ak7kfeZ9s78JHBlgEcCKqHwQ[/img] therefore something intelligent must have molded it..

Surely simple case of weathering and chaotic action of wind on dust as in the case of sand dune.. It's not precision but resulting value of an interaction..[/b]

Thanks for the last lesson.will make avoid such blunder next time

Alright

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Six Types Of Atheists That Exists... (by Reseachers) by johnydon22(m): 8:35pm On Nov 22, 2015

Hahahaha i don't really know where i fit in, better someone point that our for me..

But am sure am not dogmatic about unbelief that's why i am an Agnostic Atheist..

Someone help tell me which one i am oo

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