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Christianity Etc › Re: Ten Stupid Things Theists Say by johnydon22(m): 5:28pm On Sep 12, 2015
urheme:
@op, religion adherers are programmed to say these things, we were born and raised that way, and those of us who have reasoned out of these religious theories still partake and raise our kids that way.
I totally disagree with this, you were subjected to unfair indoctrinations into these things, as you put it programmed with what to think and you want to subject your little ones to the same fate? No to me that's cruel.

I was born into that shackle and i tell you my children will not be subjected to any form of psychological shackle or abuse. I will allow them develop their own opinion, i will show them the world as it is at the same time encourage them to agree with things only when it conforms to their reason..


I have problem with religion because i feel it has lost its human face, but i'm still raising my kids as christians, i would prefer them singing in the church than in clubs.
[b]Threatening Children with the image of hell, teaching them dependency on abstract concept and all other psychological quagmire is one thing i will never subject my kids to..

Go to Nigerian Night Clubs i can bet that more than 96% of the people there are theists all raised Christians and stuff. i personally see no problem with someone going to a club to dance and have fun though i have never been to one, not that it is bad but because it is just the way my life is, i love serene environments though i will sure go to one anytime i feel like or want to.

So these kids raised christians and stuff but still end up in Night clubs shows that it is not about raising a kid the christian way, it is about knowing how to get to their young minds, it's about knowing how to show them the society for what it is and most of all teaching them to know what conforms to their reason.

Using threats (like hell as Christianity & Islam) employs in inciting morality into young lads simply is a psychological abuse on the young minds of these innocent ones because you are getting them to conform to your idea of morality with a factor of fear, that to me is immoral itself.

Teach the young ones to be NICE because it is good to be Nice to others.
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Op how were your parent raised?
My parents were raised Christians

How are you being raise?
[b]I was born into Christiandom and i know the guilt and fear i grew up with, i remember the first day i kissed a girl as a 9year old kid (you know Children love wink) That one act haunted my mind for years. The fear that i have done a terrible thing, the fearful thoughts of going to hell because i kissed a girl. (Worst of all the parents don't even know or notice their Children are going through these psychological trauma )

I won't have my Children go through same abuse, i won't let my Children grow up with an unfounded fear weighing heavily in their minds. i won't let my Children be discouraged of cultivating healthy questions and developing their own ideas, i won't lie to my Children by telling them that they are sinful, that they are terrible persons, broken, inherited the sins of some mythical jewish couples who ate an apple, or make them dependent on abstract concepts for favours.

No i will teach them that they are beautiful, strong, wonderful, great. i will teach them to be dependent on themselves, i will teach them the world is good and they should strive to be good to be sure the world is good.
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How are you raising your kids or how do you intend to raise them?
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I am an agnostic atheist but i will neither raise my Kids as atheists or theists. That ideology is for them to cultivate.
They need to see the world as it is then develop their own opinion. I can only teach them to always think but will never force or impose on them what i want them to think, they are the ones to decide and make their choices when they are old enough.

I intend to raise them to "Be Good for goodness sake" i intend to teach them to place humans first before ideas.

I intend to show them that only their actions towards others is what makes them either good or bad.

I intend to show them that their nature as humans is very beautiful, intelligent and strong.

And i will never teach them myths as truth or fables as truths But rather i will teach them myth as myth and fables as fables and reality as reality.

The young minds no nothing like hatred, intolerance, racism, sexism, indoctrination, bigotry, homophobia, prejudice, misogyny.

They do not yet understand things like Love, tolerance, joys, compassion, acceptance, human decency, empathy, integrity, beauty and truth.

nor disturbing emotions like fear, greed and jealousy.

For the first and most important formative years of their lives they will only know what you teach them.

So choose well.
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Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 4:31pm On Sep 12, 2015
Krystalzkris:
i will love this... It will be more fun if aliens visit us once.. Lolgrin
Of course want to feel how almost zero gravity feels. . space will be so fun
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Devoted Christian Should She Study Islamic Studies In The University? by johnydon22(m): 11:59am On Sep 12, 2015
The most important thing here is gaining a university degree. But i really don't see what good Islamic studies can do for as regard securing a Job with her degree after graduation.

Other than that i see no reason why she should not because it won't make her change her position as regard her religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: 87 Killed, 184 Wounded In Crane Collapse At Mecca Mosque by johnydon22(m): 11:39am On Sep 12, 2015
menesheh:
What's mother nature, the crane has some hitches then gat to obeyed the law of nature by pulling down by itself .
Yea the crane obeyed the law of gravity but the issue of asserting it punished the people that disobeyed the law of nature is one thing i can't relate with bro cus i don't see how their going for a Hajj or whatever that crap they went for is called went against nature.
Christianity Etc › Re: Being Atheist Doesn’t Make You Smart, Rational, Or Logical by johnydon22(m): 11:21am On Sep 12, 2015
undercat:
It is. People are smart or not before they become religious or not. I agree with much more than just the title tho.
Yeap
Christianity Etc › Re: 87 Killed, 184 Wounded In Crane Collapse At Mecca Mosque by johnydon22(m): 11:08am On Sep 12, 2015
Weah96:
Mother Nature is God. She brings swift judgment to those who break her laws.
So mother nature pushed down the crane?? What laws did they break exactly?

secondly you forgetting humans are also nature
Christianity Etc › Re: Being Atheist Doesn’t Make You Smart, Rational, Or Logical by johnydon22(m): 11:04am On Sep 12, 2015
undercat:
The OP is quite right, if you think about it. Especially that part about misusing "logical".
I quite agree with the Op title, it is very true...
Christianity Etc › Re: Difference Between A Roman Catholic Church And Catholic Church. by johnydon22(m): 10:42am On Sep 12, 2015
nobilis:
No. That's not true. The church of England has no ties with the catholic church. They do not share any doctrinal articles.
The Anglican Church has never been called Anglo-Catholic Church. Get your facts straight.
Alright then . . Have fun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Catholicism
Christianity Etc › Re: 6 Days To The Appearance Of Jesus Christ (13th September 2015) by johnydon22(m): 9:36am On Sep 12, 2015
MrPresident1 tomorrow is the D day that you will meet Jesus. grin

which county will he arrive at first, Maybe Nigeria so he can pick up his first passenger who might even pick pocket him grin

anyway we will be waiting tomorrow... cheesy cheesy even your father Vooks is regretting why he allowed you out into the world grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Difference Between A Roman Catholic Church And Catholic Church. by johnydon22(m): 9:30am On Sep 12, 2015
@nobilis there is a third called Anglo catholic Church or Church of England.

Otherwise known as Anglican which is a short word for Anglo Catholic...
Christianity Etc › Re: Being Atheist Doesn’t Make You Smart, Rational, Or Logical by johnydon22(m): 9:15am On Sep 12, 2015
I very much agree to the title of the thread. .it is very true.

WarRLaY:


1: All things created have a creator.
This is a lie, how do you determine what is created by a creator. The last i checked Planetary formations, star formations and other celestial phenomena are due to the action of gravity on matter and not a bearded man saying let there be light. . . These phenomena needs no creator like man has rightly observed. I wonder what planet you came from

Going by this analogy "everything have a creator" it only means even the creator must have a creator who in turn must also have a creator who also must also have another creator and so it spans into a chain of infinite regress of unfounded creators.



2: The Earth was created.
Murder of logic by someone who wanted to claim sound logical reasoning. How did you deduct earth was created? ( what an ancient goat herder wrote?) ... This is a logical fallacy because by concluding the earth is created and removing the possibility of the earth not being created you have begged the question because it must have one conclusive answer. . . and one would even think you knew a little about logic.


Therefore: The Earth has a creator.
Earth was formed by the activities that formed every other entity in the universe. Gravity and matter.


This also is a logically valid argument and a
perfect example for why attacking religion as
illogical is a terrible debating tactic. Religions
can and have produced many perfectly valid
arguments for the truth of their beliefs based on
the assumptions of their faith. While we can
certainly attack the truthfulness of their
assumption speaking of religions as illogical only
exposes our own ignorance. Speaking of
ignorance…
[b]It is a very very idiotic deduction. First you could not postulate your observatory method of data scrutiny in order to come to the conclusion of creator brouhaha.

That deduction based on the assertions of ancient primitive men is as degrading as it is shameful for 21st century beings to abandon study and subscribe to such.

This type of idiocy is called "Argumentum Ad ignorantum" a logical fallacy which entails assuming up any answer to explain a premise where you lack answer. "I don't know how the earth was formed, then a God did it" is that not the worst form of intellectual laziness and dishonesty.

You don't know the earth formed then that should be a call for study, observations, scrutinization of available datas and this is the only way the real truth can be ascertained and not just assume up any absurd explanation you saw in an ancient book and believe it by faith.

Assuming up a Creator for the Question of how things began does not solve this problem rather it postpones it by killing you drive to strive and know exactly what happened.
Man used to think rain was a God pissing, now we all know that is blatantly untrue. Such primitive explanations has time without number being replaced by scientific explanation (A deduction based on study and scrutiny) So not knowing how the earth was formed is a call to study, observe and scrutinize in order to know and not subscribe to primitive explanations of ancient men who thought sun and moon were inside the earth.

You see where ever you copied this from, you need to check next time before posting.
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Christianity Etc › Re: S. Arabia Has 100k Empty Tents With AC For 3M People- Zero Refugees Taken (pix) by johnydon22(m):
They value religion more than human lives, they value the hajj or what ever that shiiit is called more than the lives of millions.

They have this much of well cozy tents and most refugees are sleeping outside in European countries.

Both Saudi and the God they profess are bitches!!!
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:43am On Sep 12, 2015
Krystalzkris:
whoa.. The world is fascinating.. Space is too... Wish i could space travel..
You can, as a tourist. .

People now go to space for tourism but it is very expensive but just hang on for about 20years from now, you will not only be able to go to space as a tourist if you have the cash, you can even travel to Mars and back
Jokes Etc › Re: When The Kids Start Coming: Before And After (PICS ILLUSTRATED) by johnydon22(m): 8:37am On Sep 12, 2015
sinaj:
Many tinz to show dem lyk pes 13 huh grin
Like teaching them how to be happy in life by making their wives happy, using their mother as an example
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 10:41pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
grin
Of course, there are two possibilities here.

it is either
(1) We are alone
or
(2) We are not.

No(1) is almost impossible and both are equally scary grin
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 10:29pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
scary!!! Isn't it? To find out that one day earth will be no more and humans will be extinct
Humans might actually be just 1 out of billions of life forms inhabiting this universe.
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Feared Dead as Crane Collapses In Mecca.. #pics by johnydon22(m): 9:33pm On Sep 11, 2015
onetrack:
Accidents happen, and given the poor construction in many parts of the world this should not be surprising, even in Mecca. But I agree: very sad and condolences to the dead. Neither "God" nor "Satan" have anything to do with this.
God and satan should be able to say "HI" first before being able to push down a crane.

Yea i know it's an accident but the coincidence is uncanny. . 9/11 will soon be known for tragedy around the world embarassed
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Feared Dead as Crane Collapses In Mecca.. #pics by johnydon22(m): 9:12pm On Sep 11, 2015
menesheh:
It's funny nah. Almighty allah (glory be to him) traveled to the other part of multi-verse to administer his protectorate over there. That's why such Hideous and shameful harsh trial could happen in his holiest site on planet earth.
Those are human lives bro, it's sad very sad only embarassed


But it's strange this stuff happened on 9/11 exactly!!! shocked Very creepy lipsrsealed
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:54pm On Sep 11, 2015
menesheh:
Young star which still take millions/billions year to form. Am not quite doubting what experts are coming up with on the field. Need a layman methodological explanation.
Maybe this will help http://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Sept10/Krumholz/Krumholz2.html

The complex calculations and methods involved here is way beyond my basic level men, someone shouldn't run mad bro grin
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:43pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
hmmmm.. Seems to me dat its d legitimate end of the world
Stars die, planets get swashed by asteroids, other stars, galaxies collide into each other and other chaotic weird stuffs all over the universe.

New and sometimes more modified celestial entities emerge from this chaotic events. . The universe goes on..
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:40pm On Sep 11, 2015
menesheh:
Give nore highlight on the methods used to determining star formation since it takes billion of years for such to form. It is like evolution consuming huge amount of time to arrive at a more complex living form of which utilizes natural selection.
On a basic level from the observations of Star forming nebulas, Hydrogen and even very young stars. .

There is a lot more involved that is way pass my basic level
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:26pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
actually what i want to observe is the effect it will have on our planet earth and our solar system in general
If you were around when that happens, you won't be alive to observe it because you will literally be a roasted or fried meat.

But mercury and Venus will be history because the size of the sun will extend pass them and the earth will be closer to the sun more than Mercury is now. . So you see?
Earth will be like more or less a red hot fried waste land. not even the oceans will be around embarassed
[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyCrsl1SCEW2XtrCIbQzsKQl0lUIMO8cZej-TvyCRbN-8wTU_S0xRmtJ9V[/img]
(Artist impression)
Christianity Etc › Re: Hope, Faith And Love: What Do These Mean To An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 8:18pm On Sep 11, 2015
menesheh:
Still believe in magic?
You probably didn't understand the sarcasm grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Feared Dead as Crane Collapses In Mecca.. #pics by johnydon22(m): 8:15pm On Sep 11, 2015
Freemanan:
grin
Whats funny exactly?
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 8:08pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
lolz... Wherever,buh I'd just love to see it
Aaaaaaw Sowie hun... wink

Anyway man has observed a Red Giant named Betelgeus 430light years away.. Here is the image as captured by the Hubble deep space telescope

https://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/graphics/betelgeuse_visual.jpg

But wait undecided what are you implying? You mean you will like to see our own Sun turn into a red giant? shocked
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 6:58pm On Sep 11, 2015
lalasticlala where art thou huh
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 6:31pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
wish I can be alive till then.
Impossicant!!! embarassed

Or waithuh Maybe you will get to see it from heaven cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Hope, Faith And Love: What Do These Mean To An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:54pm On Sep 11, 2015
musKeeto:
You never know. God might beam it live around the world using the sky as screen. SexyJesus coming to pick up his sheep on a chariot with horses. Santa would be so pissed.
Hallelujah!!!! grin grin
Jesus riding horses when man is now riding rockets grin lets see how that goes.

Maybe the sky will be turned into an OLED screen and a reoccurring image made to appear all over the screen ..That should be fun grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The Pastor Who Prays And Provokes Miracle Calls On Phones by johnydon22(m): 5:48pm On Sep 11, 2015
This is what you get when you propagate idiotic superstition to the public, when you inbuild pyschological retardness in the populace using absurd superstition and belief in abstract concepts.

I wonder when people will learn to get hold of their own reason and think for themselves. Who in their sane mind will fall for this nonsense... But alas people are and even the pastor is a victim of this psychological retardness so wouldn't blame him
Christianity Etc › Re: Hope, Faith And Love: What Do These Mean To An Atheist? by johnydon22(m): 5:09pm On Sep 11, 2015
HCpaul:
Well, that does'nt change the context of the bible.

He is coming in the cloud, i really shout it loud. Every eyes will see him, including you athiest and satanist.

Keep satisfying ur concience.
Ok this is impossible.

The earth is spherical please undecided
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 1:52pm On Sep 11, 2015
freecocoa:
You are now telling someone else to imagine something I asked you to, but you refused abi? Isi aki.tongue
Calm down sweetheart, Don't you like 1 man 1wife? grin

Don't you know that more wives means more trouble wink

johnydon22:
Jupiter now counts 67

Such gravity feasting on a body as little as earth will literally tear us apart... So forget the greedy bastards Jupiter and Saturn grin
1 is just fine cheesy
Science/Technology › Re: Star Formation by johnydon22(op): 1:37pm On Sep 11, 2015
Krystalzkris:
thanks for the mention... Its interesting,but ah wanna ask,whenever the sun exhausts its gases nd dies off.. Will there be anoda star to replace it?
Yeah it's likely.
i think the sun will form a white dwarf after its Red Giant stage though most of it's materials will shed off to form a planetary nebula like the Helix nebula (picture on the Op)

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