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OLAADEGBU:
Who do you accuse of killing in the first place? Is it the 2 bears, Elisha or God?

Read the topic of your thread again. . .am pretty sure you have made that assertion already

OLAADEGBU:
God's moral law is binding on all humans don't be deceived.

Moral laws? Alright thats great...

Why are you not stoning non-virgin brides to death?

For a human to refer this as a moral law, Shows how sick of a moral basis christians like you have because of jewish myths. . You are really sick

OLAADEGBU:
If you now believe that Elisha didn't physically kill anyone, why do you now believe in the existence of God who can honour or dishonour a curse?

Dude its a story. . . Can't you discuss spiderman without believing it's real?

Seriously i have known you to be quite dumb but you are proving me wrong by showing me you much more dumber than i previously thought...

OLAADEGBU:
Show me where in the scriptures that said the bears killed the thugs?

Dude you need help...

OLAADEGBU:
Who said the act was wrong, you?

Wait up. . . Please was the act (Killing 42 children) morally right or wrong

OLAADEGBU:
Thinking about it, the Scripture did not actually say that the bears killed the thugs, did it?

Boy you are seriously a confused being

OLAADEGBU:
You guys should just be grateful for Jesus who has redeemed us from the curse of the Law. It is my prayer that you will take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late.

Lmao Jewish law? it has never ceased to amaze me how some africans just hype jewish cultural dispose as theirs. . . Lets start from the first laws that predates the jewish laws.

Egyptian
mesopotamian
babylonian
sumerian
mayan
ugarit
canaanite

Dude am sure you should be thanking horus, ea, molech for freeing you from these laws. . I hope you take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late for you...

OLAADEGBU:
You might as well team up with theAtheist101 to find out. The fact is that you may never survive it to tell us your findings.

Wait up, i don't understand. . . Am i supposed to take you serious

AcesIni:
new religion I said.

something they all deny

Yes bro tell them, atheism is a religion just like OFFING the t.v is another t.v station

I don't even understand, are we supposed to Comment or just read and pass

RobinHez:

There are times when conflicts arise between Theory an Faith. How do i resolve such??

Lol...low ba3. . . I will surely be back for this thread later.. Interesting and promising.. GOOD QUESTION THO

I have been reading thru the thread only this word scrabble on buttered misrepresentation or maybe willful ignorance on your part caught my attention and so i think i've gat to teach you what science really says on evolution cus for someone who claims to have studied zoology and biolchem, you really are not that cognitive with scientific studies.

Barnabaseloka:
I have read the much I can from this link. Know that I studied Zoology and Biochemistry in school. I have read a lot about man evolving from ape.

First the bolded clearly shows you have never read anything on evolution (you are just claiming to) If you ever did you would know evolution never stated man evolved from apes, but apes and man (Both hominidae) evolved from one common ancestor just like Cats, lions, tigers (falidae) evolved from one common ancestor. . SCIENCE101 next time read before you comment on a particular subject.

But, they kept speculating and were not precise. They kept reconstructing their theories in order to prove that their theories were true. Let me tell you that more and more findings are yet to come.

Truth changes with new facts. Science is study and the more new findings are made the better the truth gets on the subject...That is how real truths are unraveled not just believe what some ancient men scribed down without facts backing them up.
(e.g) We were told there were 9planets in the solar system but with discoveries of new planets, that TRUTH (that we have 9planets) changed and we know to have 8main/8mini planets now. and this truth is not constant because more studies are being carried out and with more discoveries, this truth will improve.
(Truths should be based on discovered facts not mythical beliefs)

They do all these things in order to contradict and counter God's word on creation of man, which has never undergone any reconstruction.

Nobody is trying to contradict the word of ur god, the word of ur god did that by going contrary to observed facts…

And that is the difference between beliefs and real study based on observations. . Belief establishes a truth based on myths that must remain unchanged even when evidences goes contrary to it.(its called blind belief) science is clearly the opposite.

Why can't you prove the existence of God by scientific discoveries? Yet, you subject His word to discoveries. No one needs to subject God's word to scientific discoveries to prove its authenticity, for God's words are spiritually discerned, and cannot be understood through human wisdom.

Can you prove God's (Osiris) existence by scientific discoveries? Dude science has nothing to do with trying to prove myths.

It cannot be discerned by human wisdom yet you are human, how come you know this? let me help; ASSUMPTIONS.

Do you believe in the creation story that God created all that He needed to create within xix days, and rested on the seventh day? If God had not finished His creation work, why would He rest on the seventh day? In evolution, it takes a large number of years for evolution to occur. Yet, man has not evolved to a higher form. People know what the Scriptures say but go after discoveries in order to counter God's word.

Yea since god finished creating everything within six days magically, how come the universe is still expanding (formation process) Maybe your god didn't rest then but still creating.

Talking about large number of years for evolutionary trends, let me help you with that cus its obvious you dont know;
It takes millions of years. . . modern homo sapiens according to evolution emerged 200-300years ago, so that duration is still very short for humans to evolve (improve) You'd have to stick around a couple million years from now to get that

I say again that if God's word has a part that is untrue, as a result of scientific discoveries, then God has falsehood in Him, and cannot be trusted. And those that believe in God are of all men most miserable.

Yes and this is the very reason why you so very much try to cling to this obvious myth as truth even when it goes contrary to discoveries and evidences because you don't want your illusions destroyed.

And how come you so much price the genesis story, a jewish reworked copy of an older story, the babylonian Enuma elish as the word of god.
If it is then i seriously find the intellectual capability of that being very unimpressive.

The Scriptures tell us how Adam was created, but these scientists could not tell us how man came from ape precisely.

Yea adam popped out magically out of thin air when god said the magic words.
But then again you commit the same blunder;Evolution never asserted man came from apes, am sure i have addressed this above.. You need to read something before bringing it up on a public forum like this

All they made in their theories were calculations and speculations and were never definite. Some even talk of 'missing link' in evolution, whereas the word of God was definite about the creation story. It is better to believe God's word as it is, than to believe speculations from the discoveries of men with limited knowledge and understanding.

Science: Study, observations, experiments. .
Belief: This is true because this book says so, and this book is true because this same book says it (itself) is true.
Which do you think is more reliable

Learn to know the difference between myth and facts.
[b]The study on man's development is still under heavy study and researches And with this method one can rightly say the truth is not far from being known.

And if the ba3 is still gonna be the same then fvck the phone, sticking with my Tecno...

Orunto:
NO!!! athiests are insane animals. They do not have Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding of good character. God is good and Christ is Character. The Bible, the main Instruction of God instructs Believers not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers, athiests to be precise.

The bolded is your example of good character? Then i can rightly say thats an epileptic concept of good character and i don't want any part of it..

macof:
Off topic - what's it with women and white wedding? I still don't understand

I don't know ooo its a societal trend and i think its cool tho..

rationalmind:
Not your baby bro.

You have lots of atheist female friends who will love to get married to an atheist. Rationalmind is an atheist, obviously single. So, do the needful

Hahahahahahaha Oloshi, na so your life be?? . . . You wan nack ma friends ba.. Oya head down east make we link up over some beers..

rationalmind:
Do the needful

Lmao. . . I love ma baby ooo

Orunto:
Devil has no Power. All Powers belong to God. The devil is all wickedness and God is aware and very firmly in control of all of devil's wickedness.

so god is aware and is in control of all devil's plots. . .why then is he executing them

SpeedyConnect:
Please what do we make of juju or charms, whence comes the powers in those. Or don't nobody believe in them?

That will be a subject of study.. Let us get to see this juju shenanigans and place it under scrutiny and see... All we see are mere tricks and hearsay exaggerated accounts..

chommyAngela:
really , i hv not seen girl wey b atheist oo .d mata big oo.

You really need to get out more.. Lets start from nairaland.. Nana228 and many i cant remember their names...

rationalmind:
Boss, how far?

Hahahahahaha i deh ooo

In a superstitiously and religiously society like the african society, being an atheist is seen awkward and some fanatics will brand you a demon.

It is understandable why religious men/women will run away when they find out their partner is an atheist, sound minds that are tolerant and understanding are very rare.

I for one is an agnostic atheist a very proud one for that matter and i must say even as an atheist people in my street respect me a lot and seek my counsel on religious arguments, i rarely say am one openly but everyone knows for sure and has distinguished me from many who always loves talking and discussing with me even the girls tho am a one man guy so i stick with my girl friend who is also a theist.

She knows my atheistic stance and is cool with that, insist she will like a church wedding which am ok with cus Atheism doesn't mean Anti-theism... That i don't drink star doesn't mean i can't wear a t-shirt with star brand.
To me wedding in church for her is just a ceremonial process which am ok with.

I have many atheist friends who are girls and they are of the opinion of marrying a fellow atheist. If i was not in a relationship with the love of my life i would have loved to marry one of these my atheist female friends tho..

Anyway I think Ideologies evolve with time, so african superstitious mentality will soon be redefined to suite a secular world of which our world is evolving into...

Barnabaseloka:
I wish not to speak with you from human ideologies or wisdom. I believe in Jesus and have to back up my points with the Scriptures.

Ok shall we now say that it is valid to back up spiderman with spiderman's comics?

I also see that you write 'God' as 'god' deliberately. I stand to be corrected in my opinion that you have not believed in the existence of God. But to be clear on this, I want to know if you believe in God.

god, God, dog, Dog... changes nothing in the simple noun. . . I think your intuition is correct...I do not believe any god concept. . Ranging from the very first concepts humanity conceived.. Ugarites concepts, sumerian, egyptian mesopotamian and babylonian down to the recent ones.. Zeus, thor, yahweh, allah, horus, krishna, vishnu, dynonsus etc...

Rev father or not, I think a disciplined man won't get any ideas living with a 16year old but i wouldn't count on the chances... Maybe you should go do the cooking instead since you are older and more mature.

Barnabaseloka:
1. The Devil gets his power to hurt people from SIN.

Is this power independent of god's power?
If yes then all power does not belong to god..
If No then its still same as using god's power.

2. Anyone who has not believed in Christ is under the power of sin, and thus, devil has power over the person.

Buh seriously i have never seen an atheist tormented by an evil spirit, i think the devil's power really works more on you theists.

3. The devil has no power over anyone that believes in Jesus and lives his/her life as it pleases God,

Really? Well thats true cus neither does it have any power against the one who doesn't believe. . .It only does for those who think it does, that's how fiction works

4. Devil only has power over such believer when he/she sins against God and does not immediately ask for forgiveness from God. and forsake such sins.

Yea just like Job sinned i guess.

5. Devil can also have access to the life of one who does the will of God but with permission from God. In this case, the devil will be given restrictions to the life of such a believer. This is a testing period for such a believer.

There we have it as i rightly asserted before. The devil is just god's employee. he is working for god.... So why condemn an employee for doing what he was employed to do and not the employer... You condemn devil for tormenting job but not the main oga that gave the permission (which literally means the main oga is the one tormenting the victim only with the help of his worker (devil)..)

6. Know that in this world, there is time for everything. Good things and bad things will always come to anyone living on earth, with the bad, not being necessarily the devil's work.

Good and bad things has nothing to do with any deity...

7. God is in control of anything that happens on earth. But to believers, God has promised us 'victory' in every of these bad things.

god is in control meaning everything that happens are his works. . whatever the devil does are all gods plans because he is in control of everything...yes?

it leaves us wondering; Who really is the Villain in this fable

The 2011 elections saw many bloody turn outs after the results were announced, Destructive protest mainly in northern states that got many people displaced, killed and properties destroyed.

Now after the 2015 elections even with everyone expecting the same out come of event to take place, many people relocated back to their region of origin to ensure their safety after the elections but things took a surprise turn after the results were announced to even earn Nigeria international commendations.

What did we do differently this time that turned the tide?

TalentedMedia:
dnt u knw dat God purposely Left satan with his power in order to torment d sinful ones!!!!

That means the devil is just god's employee.. he is working for god. so why all the fuse about satan then since everything he is doing is exactly what god want him to do..?

TalentedMedia:
mind u it God not god at least respect him with dat,

Spelling dog as Dog changes nothing in the simple noun, so how ever you like spelling it is your business not mine... After all I don't get what you mean by respecting a concept with capital letters.

back to business wen i say God left him with his power i do not mean all his power at d same time he uses Gods Power

god left him with his powers which he god gave him in the first place... So all the powers he is using now is still god's power.

So devil's power is synonymous to god's power... Its very clear.

kayo80:
Hmm! But can't he take his power away from the Devil. I mean, since he is 'God' he should be able to do that, and save us all the hardship that 'the devil' causes on earth. Don't you think?

Exactly, if that happens there will be no need for the god and devil rivalry fables.... So you see?.leaving the power was very vital

TalentedMedia:
remember according to d bible he was d head of d angels nd as d head he wuld be more powerful dan d rest

so which literally means he is using god's power then?

lmao... Lets Wait and see the answers then

bingbagbo:
Evolutionists claim the universe and all its components evolved
They clown about that, man evolved from apes.

Ok, why is it that, in our lifetime, we have never seen any ape turn to man?

How come the universe is so orderly and planned?

How come humans since they evolved, themselves have not evolved into other beings?

Thank you

Hahahahahahahaha Dude go and read, you need it cus am totally ashamed for you now... **Covers eyes**