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definitely JONAH story, got swallowed by a submarine....uuuhm sorry FISH and chilled 3days in there... lol

malvisguy212:
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I don't need faith to encounter my parents and neither do you because it is a certain reality.

I think arranging for me to see something doesn't demand faith, like do i need faith for you to show me a phone?

and my question is not even about me seeing any mythical being, my question still remains.

[size=20]Tell me what they look like since you have obviously seen them[/size]

malvisguy212:
answer yes or no. Which among them do you want to see? Satan or Jesus?

both...... So just tell me what they look like since you have see them

I enjoy this type of stories well well

malvisguy212:
I saw demon claimed to be the christ, (this happened when I was a sinner) immediately I rebuke him, after that he transformed into his real self.

Ok bro tell us what the real self of a demon looks like then...since you saw one..

I tell you the truth my good friend, the first time I had encounter with Jesus christ, I knew it was Him, He called my name and say He love me. I am telling you the truth, I have no proof to give you, but I know what I saw. If you believe me Good and if you did not believe me, I will still say Good. It a choice. Peace

ok we believe you

oya good, now tell us what the Jesus you saw looks like, black or white, long hairs or short?
when he told you he loved you, was it with a silky feminine voice or baritone voice?

(Or you read it from a book)

malvisguy212:
yes satan plotted it.

In the parable of the venyerd.

"and when they saw the heir coming, they say let us kill him so that the inheritance will be ours"

Ooh great, meaning when jesus was sent, he wasnt sent to come and die but the devil saw him and incited the people to kill him....... Now that's another one... Go on

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I rebuke every unfamiliar spirit in u
I set u free from all kind of spirits
And I wash u wif d blood of d lamb dat was slain
U re saved
Bro, blaspheme no more

dude is this the way your life is

Uuuhm this requires some pills i think Guy if you don't know how to address a post, don't quote me...

i think malvisguy needs the saving not me, he did the blasphemy.. so read it up and address it appropriately..

malvisguy212:
yes satan plotted it.
In the parable of the venyerd.
"and when they saw the heir coming, they say let us kill him so that the inheritance will be ours"

Freemanan:
Heaven is a concept.... Just like Justice.... It's not concrete...

Ooh heaven is just a concept and not an actual place... Good..

Let's wait for the ones who believe it's an actual place...

malvisguy212:
you did not read the story very well, judas did not do this on his own, it was through the temptation of satan, as a matter of fact, judas was one of Jesus favourite, Jesus call him my friend.but give heed to satan.

Peter deny Jesus three time, Jesus even say to peter "get thee behind me satan" but peter repent and judas did not.

All the teaching and preaching of Jesus ,STILL he allow satan to enter him.

So then that means satan plotted the death of Jesus then...?


Because without this so called satan as you said, Judas won't betray Jesus and without Betraying Jesus, he wouldn't have been killed (isn't that what he came to do before, to get killed) then if he wasn't killed, no salvation for you then.... This is quite funny...


This means the so called satan plotted and executed the plans for ur salvation..

The first question should be; Why should an all good deity demand blood before he can forgive anybody worse of all the blood of his own son...

this deepsight is not even arguing or mustering any meaningful defence for the op, just attacking plaetton and trying to maneuver other people to his side.

This thread is seriously ruined, the guy steered the thread off from what it should be and pushed it into a word exchange back to back combat..

Its just a sandwich of ad hominems and unrelated words to the op. deepsight i think if you need an argument with plaetton (seems that you don't tho, just want to banter words) Just open a thread on the topic and invite him, we would all be delighted to seat and watch and sure enough call out anytime any of you tries using personal words.

from what i see here, its not an argument just some letting off irked feelings...

If i am to remain silent, i would be guilty of complicity.
I have always said it, the basis of religion is fear not faith. We atheist have a very exciting life outside if not far more exciting.

We make out our precious time to come here because more innocent people out there needs to be shown the need to think for themselves, the fear and guilt religion has filled our world with is a very evil cankerworm that needs to be checked.

We are here to show the innocent minds that myth is myth, fable is fable and wishful thinking is wishful thinking.

We are here to unshackle this innocent minds from the shackles of fear and mumu-ish way of believing things even blatant lies that religion have bound them with of which sadly you yourself is also a victim.

We have been there before, so we have the experiences and know the difference between perceivable reality and wishful thinking.

I think when you start keeping your theism to yourself, stop indoctrinating young innocent minds, stop threatening people with a mythical hell, a wishful rapture then i will keep my atheism to myself but as long as these evil societal cankerworms are still there, i will always be there to challenge and place it under scrutiny that you so want to shield it from.

As long as we still see lies being propagated in nairaland as truth, myths passed as history, we will always be here to refute them.
This your post just show you are afraid of atheist and how many people are starting to think rather than sheepishly believe.

Moreover its real fun and a wonderful way to pass time coming here to argue and discuss, i for one love it

And without us, we all know this religion section will be less busy than sahara desert or a complete waist land like the muxlim section...So seat back and enjoy us when we still have time to spare..
You also forgot to mention my brothers Davien, DProDG, menesheh, cupid1, theAtheist101, atheistD, Redlyn, nana228 and many other bright minds..

We are the fun here bro

lol adult still believe and tell this story we heard as kids.. lmao...what has religion done to people abeh

mujahid1339:
BOORING!!

Yeah exactly the point

OLAADEGBU:
The mythological stories you mentioned above does not add up when you put them to scientific and historical tests. Science confirms the Genesis account and above that the Bible is of supernatural origin.

What dah heck? Mythologies? yet they predate the one you believe.
the one you believe copied from them.

Enuma elish is mythology but the genesis story that copied from it is not mythology. . . Now take a look at this!!!

Science confirms genesis story how please
same you went further to term the story supernatural since when did science start studying supernatural shenanigans
Another name for supernatural fables in science is Mythology

And you believed them? Has it not been known that some shady nurses and doctors swap babies?

We are talking about how babies were born not about swapping babies. . . Methods of child births are observed facts of which we have even videos of them now.

It all boils down faith based on solid evidence. My faith is based on solid evidence which can be experimentally or experientially proved.

so you believe the Genesis story by faith and disbelieve the enuma elish from whence it was copied from...isnt that laughable?

Nope your faith is based on mythology taught to you from child birth till now.. am sure if ur parents waited for u to get up to 21 to tell you a certain man harboured all the species of animals in the world for months in one ship you probably wont believe it.

Faith is not certainty, you dont need faith to know you are male (if you are) . . faith is only required in unsure situations.

That i have faith that there is a diamond bearded rabbit that created the universe , doesn't make it true, if u like let your faith reach to the highest mountains it has no weight on truth...

Hindus have faith in theirs
muslims same
xtians same.

(Its all believing mythologies)

Your faith doesnt make anything true, it doesnt even make it probably true. it just means you believe it anyway whether its true or not

OLAADEGBU:
This is nescience per excellence. Do you know when you were born, was it not the record books that you read and believed that gave you an idea as to when you might have been born? Why not believe the account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis?

same reason why you don't believe the Mesopotamian creation story, the Babylonian creation story (enuma elish) the canaanite creation story, the egyptian creation story even though all these stories i just mentioned predates the biblical story by thousands of years. even the biblical saga was a reworked copy of the enuma elish.

actually my mother is a first hand witness of how i was born, same where the doctors and nurses present. i wouldn't say no one knows how i was born cus many people know this first having performed this.

so why dont you believe all these older creation stories i just mentioned even when it predates the biblical story and it borrow theme and motif from enuma elish..?

KellamLeTorneau:
Ad hominems are used by the unintelligent, my attack on your character is justified. In my long dicussions with you, I arrived at the conclusion that you are illogical. Further proof is that instead of you reading the contents you refused to consider it because it was a "copy and paste". Is that how your logic works? So its not the message you're interested in?

Emotional? Please...as illogical as you are I admit there are people far more illogical than you, and even they couldn't stir up my emotions.

You like the word illogical don't you?, . . . .Lol.. one thing i don't do on nairaland is exchange personal words and I won't still stoop that low, you can be the champion on that... when i see something worth refuting hewn from Your own reasoning then i can spare time to refute.

M yet to recall having any discussions with you.. Just reading these things am sure its not hard deducting who really is illogical and emotional about it. ... ok go on with your ad hominems... ..

menesheh:
The guy have no evidence for his jesus existence, we are tired of all these numerous mythical story, what we only need now is evidence for any claims whatever believe. If a Buddha can prove his story of existence and all the complexities, then we can follow him.

There are many evidence of Abacha's existence than all these silly and primeval story.

You see there is a high chance that a Jesus existed 2k years ago in isreali. that name is a pretty common name in isreali means Yahweh saves. Joshua is same name and also another Jesus sirach wrote the deutrocanonical book of sirach. you see the name is pretty common.

The historicity can be deducted but what historical authenticity don't recognize is preternatural occurrences, its called fables which is synonymous to mythology.
e. g

Achilles may have existed but the story of his mother being a nymph and also his invincibility except his heel is pure fable and bears no weight in historical authenticity of the subject.

Jesus may have existed but other fables surrounding him like Virgin birth, walking on water, a new star, death and resurrection just as we have seen in many older stories like that of horus, Mithras,dyonsus and many more and nothing but fables.
mythological reworked sagas... that is the part modern historicity don't recognize.

lomprico:
Hmmm! Thought provoking. Oya tell us the history of allah n budah n shongo n amadioha.

Allah waited 1.7k years ago to show face... took some drunk middle aged sun fried arab man into the cave, gave him some randy revelations and threats to unbelievers then tadaaaaa.. !!!

KellamLeTorneau:
I see you haven't changed since our last encounter. People like you I like to call "illogical atheists". you have no business here, like the first part talked about logic and intellect which I doubt you possess. People like you aren't even atheists for the sake of it, you're just trend followers or rather hollywood chipolatas.

lol really? now thats ad hominems... i'd rather let it pass. think you are beginning to sound emotional...

KellamLeTorneau:
Did you even read it or are you just Trying to sound relevant to the atheist world, if so, what part of the article caught your attention. Please quote.

You see, i wouldn't waste time picking it one after the other... read my post again. ....moreover do i even need to start addressing a copy and paste?

you see this thing up there, ranging from the creator of universe writing a book to the least of trash is exactly what atheists dont believe/buy....

Save from what

menesheh:
Evidence for Jesus existence

No wait, abacha existed we have the evidence... now do you believe abacha is a deity that will come again to save you from a mythical place of punishment he has prepared for you?

malvisguy212:
God will judge.

Uuuhm so ur god will throw the mods in hell for closing the thread?

who missed me

OLAADEGBU:
With all your purported comprehension can you tell us how life originated?

I don't know just like you because none of us were there when it started. it is still a subject of study and research till now...

justsmile:
pls the person you buy from, is he trust worthy and reliable? Cos I also want to buy but I don't want to fall to a wrong hand. thanks.

yes add me on bbm i will buy it for u 7F740386

smartesboys:
are you happy to see your bro in hell?

No Bro i definitely wouldn't wish you or anyone born in hell, its a barbaric concept conceived by a sadistic mind... it was just a sarcastic language..

OLAADEGBU:
How was the universe originally created?

I dont know and i have never claimed to know... am talking about observed events of planetry and star formations not mythology here

OLAADEGBU:
What you tried was traditional religion. Did you have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ His Son?

Seems your comprehension is as retarded as your posts

KingEbukasBlog:
Hmmm ... I gave Noah's account as an example of the effect of God's power on nature . If you dont agree , sorry bro

lmao..mythology is ur example and not an obvious 21st century event.. hahahaha seems convenient enough..

Nothing is hard for God to do .If you dont agree , sorry bro

then the video then? this is funny