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malvisguy212:
you are a liar a father of it, am I not the first that provide the link DProDG provide? I even paste it to pleatton on one thread. Pleased don't quote me if you are bias. Respect!!!

On another thread... i think you need to read this thread again... lol.. oga what we need is first hand argument from the brain of the debator not copy and paste.. YOu are not debating muslims that you all embark on copy and paste work... we need first hand brain work when debating an atheist. Go and learn then come back

malvisguy212:
you claimed you read the thread dint you come across this;

To explain why, we need to go back to
Augustine who puzzled over the following
argument:
1. God created all things.
2. Evil is a thing.
3. Therefore, God created evil.

Then what kind of trick you want to play?

hahahahaha now i got what i want... so evil is a thing and not a name humans ascribe to ACTIONS and events that is not favourable to the general human well being or survival... Good..


Now give me one example of evil that is a thing... (please don't point at actions or event i want you to tell me the thing)

malvisguy212:
even though I do not copy and paste, but you keep on saying this in all your post. I got most of this idea from C Lewis (a former atheists) on stealing from God.but you keep on accusing me of copy and paste. Keep it up.

scroll up and see where DProDG provided the link to most of your post here, even your op is also a copy and paste which he also provided a link to..

Now please answer my question, Is evil a thing? (yes or no)... chai

malvisguy212:
then why are you asking? The answer is in the op .

I need just. a simple Yes or No from you... why are you dodging.. (are you scared)

malvisguy212:
see, I have even forget hell exist until I joined nairaland where Hell is one of the most discus issue here.read the post I quoted to pleatton, I did not ignore you, I waited to here the view of many atheists on" evil is a concept", Alas they agreed with you, you guys a very wrong.
1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of
the world to confound the wise; and God
hath chosen the weak things of the world
to confound the things which are mighty;

Can you just answer my question...is evil a thing? yes or no... should i start shouting it?

malvisguy212:
now I believe, you did not read the op before commenting, I will Not answer you until you read the op. Good morning.

Lmao i freaking read the Op, i was even the one that refuted it line after line...simple question.. Is evil a thing? yes or no. (you keep dodging questions)

malvisguy212:
I produced rich deem homepage link on many occasion, but the atheists don't click the link, I paste one of rich deem teaching to pleatton on why natural disaster must happened, but he called me a lazy man. Thank you for posting it, maby this time they will tak it serious. Rich deem is a genius, he is a tormentors of atheists.

for crying out loud present your own arguments not copy other people's work. . .
Natural disasters are all natural and any learned man know their causes... Told you before atheist do not blame an imaginary deity for anything, they only use that language when a theist start thanking a god for a good fortune then atheist present the bad ones and ask y the deity left that part.

malvisguy212:
http://www.utilitarianism.com/utilitarianism.html
Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart
Mill that an action is right if it
tends to promote happiness and
wrong if it tends to produce the
reverse of happiness—NOT just
the happiness of the performer
of the action but also that of
EVERYONE AFFECTED BY IT.

I still maintain,evil is beyond human brain and not a concept,I have seen a little boy that is illiterate but when it come to evil, he is an expert, does it come from his concept?

Simple question question, is evil a thing (material thing)? yes or No?

Malvisguy Human morality is as a result of empathy and compassion.... too bad you theists yours is as a result of fear of hell and hope for reward, thats why i have been asking you ur standard for recognizing morality but you cant even answer that.... next time you want to debate stop the copy and paste and bring on your own words...

I wonder when this guy will stop this copy and paste that practically is always out of context. . . He thinks he is talking with muslims that they exchange copy and paste wars.


#Sighs... i throw ma hands up

menesheh:
Just thanks for listening to PROFFESOR RICHARD DAWKINS anyway.

Just continue, a day is coming soon

Who will be thanked for listening to you then bro. . . i think you should air your own opinion on this.

menesheh:
Hitler was a catholic (a Christian) research well

I think you are missing the point here. . . the point was that hitlers actions were evil and that is it. . whatever he is. . he was giving me example of evil deeds. . please first understand the contest before.

he is pulling the gather with his teeth, its a foreign tradition buh hell yes i can, the gather is worn just around the thighs..

so e see booby and better hips na. . .

same way u started loving her...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah so its even copy and paste, no wonder he couldn't defend it... Now i will be damned.. DProDG, you badt

malvisguy212:
I see, you guys are missing the points, we are not talking about the existence of God, it's ATHEISM, social network dominated by atheists, when ever disaster befall man, atheists blame God.

Atheist do not blame a mythical being that they dont share belief in..
Because we know it has to be in existence first before influencing anything.

Atheist tend to use that language when a theist starts thanking a god for some good fortunes, then an atheist points out the bad ones and ask why the god forgot that part too.. Hope you get the drift now

its like if i say, My dad just made rain fall in my house, and u will ask you, "then how come that your brother is having drought in his own house" ...

malvisguy212:
I read the post. Do you agreed evil got nothing to do with God ? Since evil is a concept.

How will an atheist even think evil has anything to do with a mythical being he doesnt share a belief in.. is this the way ur brain works . . you theist share that ideology. .

Prove your god exists first before attributing anything to it. . be it evil or good or event that happens.

plaetton:
Lol.
Didn't you just read the beautiful rubbish I posted ?

The two hemispheres of your brain accommodate both good and evil, God and Satan, waging an internal and eternal war to dominate you, your thoughts, impulses and actions.

Evil is a concept ,because, just like good, it is the externalization of the dynamics of neural impulses.

That's why I asked you whether animals are evil or not.
If evil was a real thing, then animals and other living species would also be subject to its machinations.

Animals are neither evil or influenced by evil because evil is a purely human CONCEPT.

No be small o, the guy thinks evil is a thing or an entity. . . ask him to give an example of evil instead of showing us the entity or thing like he thinks evil is, he points at human actions.

Showing evil/good are actions but still he argues like a primary school student.

wordcat:
Evil remains a concept as Johnydon22 has rightly said.
Hitler and his followers justified their action in the same way you and your fellow christians justified the killing of about 42 innocent children just because they make jest of a prophet.

Exactly but that still doesnt make those actions to bear any immoral weight no matter how hard they try to justify them. . . it still remain a despicable and immoral act. . . therefore evil.

malvisguy212:
Joshua has don what he did, ok, does evil exist?

Evil is not an entity or a thing for crying out loud...

The moral/immoral weight of your action bears determines if it is evil or good.

malvisguy212:
Johnny say evil was a concept, I want to hear your own view first.

woooow seriously am surprised. . . so after all the discussions you still do not grasp what a concept is all about... OK let me break it down to primary level, lets hope you get it this time.

a moral act: is an act that decreases individual human suffering and/or betters the societal well being, freedom, justice and equality.

an immoral act: is an act that increases individual human suffering and is a detriment to societal well being, freedom, justice and equality.

Now if you give a coin to a begging poor man, it is easy to discern this action falls on the scope of a moral act therefore is good.

If you steal a coin from a begging poor man, it negates the action of giving to the poor man. and it is easy to discern that taking from the poor man falls of the scope of an immoral act therefore is evil.

It takes a human mind to distinguish between the two actions...

Misogynist2014:
He needs to empty his mind from delusions.

Lol... i think he just needs to man up, build up his confidence and approach a girl. . . they don't bite for crying out loud. and he is handsome. this thing he's doing here is just pitiful.

Anyway i hope it works for him, Op i hope you get lucky and get a call from a beautiful nairaland lady..

Omg, dude you cant talk to a girl for real

wordcat:
Don't shake your head yet until you give us just ONE example of evil please.

He already did but he is now dodging from telling us why he finds it to be evil..

tartar9:
lame article,thou we already know the xtian god was an utterly! useless crucified thief! how will GMB even benefit Islam.will he create a Caliphate in Nigeria.

i think boko haram has already started the struggle, why not join them and get a caliphate

Yeah am following the guy on twitter, he gives detail to detail news about his journey. . and retweets tweets too.. He said he was rejected by a church and was looking for a police station the last time i read my tweet feeds. . Good human empathy shown by the muslim family tho... #TrekForGej

..Ok am starting to love this osibanjo shaa...

truthman2012:
There is a meeting point for muslims and atheists. The spirit that is responsible for atheists not believing in God is the one that is also responsible for muslims believing in false god.

Ok you are very sick. . quote.

So telling someone to take it easy with insults and harsh words is now a problem to you... insults makes no point.

I think you should go take your pills first then read the post again. . .

plaetton:
Lol@op

The following argument proves that the Invisible Pink Unicorn exists.

1. The Pink Unicorn is Pink.
2. Pink is a well known color that exists.
3. Therefore, The Invisible Pink Unicorn is well known to exist.

Without the pink invisible unicorn, from whence cometh pink?

malvisguy212:
read the op one more time. we are just
material molecular machines "dancing to the music" of our DNA (as Dawkins
himself put it). Right?

Like i always say; Morality and immorality are all human because it takes human actions and mind to recognize. No one is inherently good or evil, your actions makes it discernable. . if it is evil or good.

Dawkins himself put it what is my business with that? am i Dawkins?. . Dawkins ideologies are not mine same way mine are not his. . .

If you studied chemistry you would understand what a molecule means.

Humans are biological entities....

My question remains; How do you recognize actions as evil and good?
Is this not from your mind based on empathy and compassion or is it from the bible?

malvisguy212:
ok. I gave you an example of hitler but you are not satisfied, you keep on insisting.so hitler killed 6million Jews and to you it was a concept? How?

I am not insisting cus i agree that hitlers ACTIONS were evil and i have my reasons for this...it was pure evil. . You can go ahead and ask me how i recognize hitlers actions to be evil and i will gladly answer that not dodge it like you..

Concept means it takes a mind to recognized that which is good or evil..

My question was; How did you recognize hitlers actions as evil? (what are your reasons or criteria from whence you recognize actions as good/evil)