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LordReed:
gender
/ˈdʒɛndə/
noun
1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Nothing in this definition says it is impossible to change one's gender. As we are starting to see not even our biology is unmalleable.

vaxx:
Layman understanding, they are the same, scienctific speaking both are different. Sex is the biological identity you are born with. Gender is the socio-cultural stereotype that is fed into your system as a result of the society or environment.

""Absolute"" nothing of such in science, what we have are provisional.

Martinez19:
I am with you on this one. A man cannot be a woman and a woman cannot be a man. Liberal folks need to distinguish between gender and sexual orientation. There are two genders and you can't switch.

vaxx:
what you are talking about is sex change. Nothing like gender change

The definition of a man or a woman is not limited to a minor biological organ, or its reproductive purpose. Even if a man loses his penis in an accident, he still remains a man because his gender is not limited to his genitals,

the psychological identity is a factor too. Similarly someone having the genitals of a particular gender cannot define them completely if their psychological identity perceives itself as another gender.
All major psychiatrist and psychiatric bodies agree that it is more beneficial and plausible for the individual to conform to their psychological identity than their biological one.

budaatum:
And people are more concerned about homosexuals.

It seems people can change their gender these days, though you need to be in a country that condones such things. Men dressed up as a girls in Thailand is a huge tourist puller, and a man dressed in iro and buba on the streets of Lagos would get chuckles. But when you start asking people to see you not as the gender you were born with there might be issues.

I find it silly really children having sex changes because they have cooked up in their head that they were born with the wrong organs! They should be sent to Nigeria to be cured. Worrying about what to feed you as a child would make you consider wrong gender not a topic of importance to bring up with mummy and daddy. Still here we are.

I can't convince you. I have met people who have changed their gender and have no reason to think different of them. There's a nice one in Tesco who is all laugh, and there's one who walks in my park in summer, though, I don't know how far they've gone since all I see is men dressed as women. They live their lives and let live so what's my problem?

I guess it could be when the person I hook up with at a bar turns out not to be the gender I thought they were. Hopefully, I'd be finding out before, and not afterwards!

CAPSLOCKED:
[color=#990000]"CHANGE MY MIND" IS AT THE END OF THIS TOPIC. OH, WHAT A JOKE.

YOUR MIND HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE UP SINCE YOU EVER LEARNT ABOUT THIS TOPIC, AND THAT IS WHY NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION YOU NEVER LET GO OF YOUR OWN OPINION, NOR ACCEPT ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND SO I'M SURPRISED HOW YOU NEVER TIRE FROM TALKING ABOUT THIS EVERYTIME.

vaxx:
Your question is flawed. people don’t change their gender, they change their sex to match their gender, and its not a choice.

johnydon22:
I will eventually. But summary is; it is not morally permissible.

Give me time my boss.

LordReed:
What is grossly nonsensical is this cop out. No one is asking you for a long statement, the length will reveal itself as we prod but here you are providing yourself an escape hatch for something you said you would do, that's just disingenuous.

frank317:
Why all these back and forth... Its beginning to sound childish to me... If he said he did not see where u stated ur position and u claim u have, what stops u from restating it clearly. U have enough time to tell him u have presented ur argument, why don't u use that time to restate it, It actually will cost u nothing

LordReed:
And it is nonsensical to say give me time to state my position then later come back with the excuse that you don't need to. So were you lying before?

LordReed:
I don't need you to fear me but since you are so good at stating and defending your position that why are you not following through?

tintingz:
Lol, you didn't even see it.

Martinez19:
If you want to know johnydon22's position, read the entire thread. I think it's cumbersome for him to keep on repeating himself.

tintingz:
He should present his position in a single file so that we can know his flaws, contradictions, not the one he pick up an argument from someone and ask questions like that of a fallacy.

LordReed:
It is because I read it that I know there is no statement. I am not asking him to repeat his arguments, I am asking for a statement of his position, these are clearly 2 different things. His arguments against others may show where his sentiments lie but they don't tell us what exactly they are. Why he doesn't want to make a statement feels like he doesn't want his position rigorously examined. If you can't bring your position to be tested then it to me reveals a prejudice, most likely one that shows you believe it has a serious flaw. Test your positions to destruction, that's how you create better ones.

LordReed:
Why are you afraid to make a statement of your own position?

Arguing against other people's positions is not a statement.

Unless you are willing for people to construct strawmen arguments for your position to which you can easily accuse them of so doing.

obonujoker:
Almost all articles of atheism, devil worship etc, are always to attack Christianity...

Now to many persons, Christianity is a religion ( true followers though know its a lifestyle ), like other religions I.e Islam, Buhdism etc, and the end point of all these religion is that there is a God.

The main point of Atheism is to prove that there is no God...

Atheist believe in fairness (so to speak), so why concentrate more on Christianity when juxtaposed with attacks on other religions??

Tell us why you atheist focus on Christianity...

Anas09:
The whole point of the thread is revile Jehovah and i say to you that, even if that was the case, you cannot do jack.

LordReed:
No, you argued with people about their position. You need to give a statement of your position and its justification for us to see how sound it is.

tintingz:
Ok.

DeSepiero:
Yes! because a spermatozoa, zygote, embryo foetus can pass for 'being a member' of Homo sapien species right?

LordReed:
Then you should give us the opportunity to see what's great or otherwise about your position.

Anas09:
Even if he actually did, who is to demand any explanation from? He created man, if he wants to eat up all humans on earth who can ask him why?

For Heaven and Earth and everything in them belongs to Him. He created everything for Himself.

He sets up Kingdoms and Overthrows empires. He rules in army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth and no man can say to Him, 'What doesth thou'.

If e too pain you, try slapping him.

LordReed:
Yeah but you've not stated it clearly, you've been arguing with others about their positions not about yours.

DeSepiero:
Please, could you briefly explain what you mean by "being a member" of Homo sapiens.
The argument is seemingly anchored on who a human is.

Martinez19:
I get you now. My intending meaning of the word human is not a scientific definition. My definition is subjective and arbitrary based on my limited knowledge of embryology.

Any body who burns us is burning a cluster of cells but, unlike the kidney cells, we are "human" (my intended meaning applied), so it's wrong.

tintingz:
A human needs the brain to be term "alive".

MrPresident1:
We will celebrate Christmas with Jesus

MrPresident1:
You no get dictionary for your house ne? Let's educate you
I got the meaning from Google. You don't have Google on your phone? Is your phone android or java?

criminal

/ˈkrɪmɪn(ə)l/

noun

1.

a person who has committed a crime.

"these men are dangerous criminals"

synonyms:lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, malefactor, culprit, wrongdoer, transgressor, sinner;More

adjective

1.

relating to crime.

"they are charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage"

synonyms:unlawful, illegal, against the law, illicit, illegitimate, lawbreaking, lawless, felonious, delinquent,culpable, villainous, nefarious, corrupt, fraudulent; More

2.

INFORMAL

(of an action or situation) deplorable and shocking.

"he may never fulfil his potential, and that would be a criminal waste"

synonyms:deplorable, preposterous, shameful, reprehensible, disgraceful, inexcusable, unforgivable,unpardonable, unacceptable; More