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Misogynist2014:
Atheism is a faith and believe that there is no enough proof of God, though our universe is complex, unique and unbelievably has every materials necessary for all needs of man. It is a one-sided belief that doesn't explore the fact that they don't have enough proof of His non-existence.

Lol please can you give a reference of where you hewned this definition from..?

shahydbinaliyu:
greek

what? .

You are kidding right?

Misogynist2014:
Is the bolded word a Greek word or Arabic. Jonydon22 help me explain to this guy.

ingeel/injil is fvcking arabic..who said its not

Misogynist2014:
Jonydon22 is atheism a faith according to the definition of Faith in Bible (substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen)?

can you define atheism for me?

shahydbinaliyu:
ok..what is science explanation for mysterious beings and things? like where did sun come from? what is the existence or creator of moon , earth...

How do science explain aliens?

woooow what is this?
Can't you just do a simple google search and read about stuffs before coming here to ask such questions..
here, start fromhere http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

By aliens you mean extra-terrestrial life, the search for such is very on going now and more than 100,000 planets are found to be in the habitable zone of their respective parent stars through out the milky way galaxy. . so they are all possible candidates to harbour extra-terrestrial life

Misogynist2014:
Hebrews 11:1

Aaaaah the bible exactly as i guessed..

shahydbinaliyu:
You believe there is no God and you believe in proof and test case issues and thats science

are you saying science is always correct about everything?

Nope am saying Science is study... and they can only be study when their are questions..

shahydbinaliyu:
Ok...let me give u a reason to believe in God.

Everything holy books prophesised comes to pass
holy books teaches science in lots of area..

Honestly ur naivete is cute ..

Misogynist2014:
Go back to the question, you've skipped a lot Also, don't redefine the divine definition of Faith.

i gave you a definition as given by the [size=20] English Dictionary[/size]

please where did you get this ur divine explanation.. lol

shahydbinaliyu:
Like i said before you started insulting me... You guys always side with science...

even after all my explanations.. anyways am glad you no longer term it belief in science.

shahydbinaliyu:
My question is .. does science exist before the existence of holy book? Where do the scientists come from?,where did the d first scientist learn to be a scientist.. besides' everything holy book said is true about man, death,earth and heaven ...and thats even before the advent of science

All these things began as philosophy, philosophy started with question, pouring in questions.. Then religion (theology) employed a god to the questions without experiment then Science employed observation, test and experiment on the subject of the question to deduct knowledge about the question thereby giving an answer.. which method is better?

shahydbinaliyu:
even when science is well know , quran corrects science i many areas... Like how man was created, how earth look like, about moon and sun, stars and others

Aaaaaawww really? please can you give me examples of such corrections.

Give me the scientific quote then give me the quranic correction

Misogynist2014:
That makes it nonexistent? Just read the definition of Faith again (substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen). Do you have proof Heaven doesn't exist? Is it provable or testable? What will you lose being Christian?

Faith : A belief or strong conviction that something is true without empirical evidence.. So you see? faith can never be a reliable source of knowledge.

I can belief by faith that a white sky man with beards created the universe doesnt make it true.. its only a conviction..

Justfollowit:
Nice to meet you

Can you please do me a favour

Please **** off my mentions

No need to get frustrated boo

i will do just that... **Done**

Misogynist2014:
Enjoy your fair share

lol no be small thing ooo just saw it

shahydbinaliyu:
You dont believe in heaven? You dont believe life will be returned back into us when in grave?,, that simply means you dont believe in God

Thats correct sir

None of those things are demonstrate able or provable, or testable either.

Justfollowit:
Who the hell are you again?

I am Johnydon22

shahydbinaliyu:
Yeah.. Bro.. Since you dont believe in God.. How do you explain the existence of man

First of all employing a god to the existence of man doesn't solve the problem of how man came to be, it only postpones it and kills the curiosity and ability of man to know the truth.

I do not claim to know the origin of man, as we speak now scientific studies are being carried out on that.
so i say …I dont know the origin of man

so now my question to you is "Which do you think is more reliable? scientific method (tests, observations and experiments) OR belief?

Misogynist2014:
Thanks, I have no job, but not a parasite on you. How come you came online swiftly? I do check your profile and know when you come online to share a post and run away. Case closed! Go and focus on your carrier, die and become my slave.

hey please personal trash talks and insults are too childish..

please bro try and stop the trash talks..

Justfollowit:
You are so full of shi.t

Unlike you I do have a life

A practical one with friends, family, academics and work.

Jobless he-g.oat

Hey dearie this is supposed to be a civilized discussion

Please just leave the insults on msogynist2014 and employ factual arguments in refuting his claims.

its a free world, we are all free to disagree with each other...please dear lets leave the insults and bashing.. its just a discussion not a fight.. Dont get emotional over it..its not personal.

shahydbinaliyu:
atheist av have discussion with always stay on science side... Ok i accept i know nothing about athiesm.. Enlighten me

So because most atheist you discussed with holds that only scientific method should be the reliable way of deducting knowledge you take it to mean they believe in science.. Now let me define what science means so you will see its not a belief system.

Science is the branch of study that employs testable explanations through observations and experimentation..

So you see? Science is just a branch of study not a belief. . . If science says that "if you throw a stone up it will fall, you dont need to believe it just throw a stone up and see for yourself"

So which do you think should be a reliable means of deducting knowledge?
Scientific method (tests, observation and experiment) OR belief?

About atheism, Atheism is not science .. atheism simply means The disbelief in every god concept

shahydbinaliyu:
Give me proof that Muhammad sex and beat Aisha at 9..and may God never forgive you for this if you know its a lie and you saying it intentionally to downgrade Islam.

Which verse in injeel... Try bring quran verses about heaven too and also where you see the 72 virgins.. Bring em all ea

Sahih Al-Bukhari , Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234; Aisha's narration goes thus
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to
Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I
got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my
mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with
some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing
what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made
me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when
my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my
face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the
house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's
Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they
prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to
me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that
time I was a girl of nine years of age.

shahydbinaliyu:
19 years he married Aisha. Check shahydcharming.

According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years
old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was
consummated. Why do you resort to lies?

shahydbinaliyu:
And that strike there doesn't mean beat... Its explained that one should take a soft cloth and use it on ones wife just once..... That strike isn't punching bag oooo

seriously your lies are too cheap. Let me define the definition of strike to you according to the dictionary.


verb (used with object) , struck or ( Obsolete ) strook; struck or
especially for 31–34, stricken or ( Obsolete) strook; striking.
to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a
weapon, or a hammer; hit. Just take a second look at your post above and see the type of stupendous lie you employ.

shahydbinaliyu:
So you expecting a heaven with no pleasure.... See as he's thinking like a.....

Lmao.. expecting what.. Heaven is a myth boy, stop being delusional. . both christian, islam, hindhu and a thousand and one other heavens are all myths born out of sheey greed for more life after u are fvcking DEAD.

shahydbinaliyu:
Everything in this universe is a proof that God exist...

Can you tell me how everything in the universe suggests a sky man created them. Can you mention what thing in the observable universe?

shahydbinaliyu:
If God doesn't exist, everything predicted in holy books won't be coming to pass

lmao things like what? please give me examples

shahydbinaliyu:
Very sweet question... Sex in heaven.. Yes.. Because man will be married to woman in paradise and sure.. It will result in pregnancy. To ascertain your curiosity... Google about what Qur'an said about paradise

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha as absurd as this sounds... this is a very good heaven if you ask me..

shahydbinaliyu:
9 years old is not allowed to marry islamically

Ooh really? remind me at what age did muhammad marry aisha again please?

shahydbinaliyu:
Islam prohibits beating of one's wife

Abi? please tell me again what this verse says Sura 4:34 Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for
maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence
what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - advise them; [then if
they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], [size=20]strike them[/size]. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means
against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

shahydbinaliyu:
See this one.. So what you trying to say is Quran is not the word of God?

You have to first prove your god exists before claiming he has a book written by a hallucinating arab man who copied from other texts is the word of ur sky fairy..

Can the existence of this your god be demonstrated?

shahydbinaliyu:
Laughing... Atheism.. In my own view and many other atheist view. They only believe in science.. Besides, to me, atheist are bunch of losers trying to control their fate and blames God for their misfortunes

Why u keep getting dumber.. Atheist blame your mythical fairy sky daddy for their misfortunes? lmao this is the most naive notion i have ever heard. The above clearly shows you have no knowledge of what atheism means. Now sir please quote out the atheists that defined atheism as the belief in science, Do you even know what science means? i mean who in the world thinks that science require belief, i have told you this before you need to read more and get a better education..

these your fallacies are becoming too much and i wonder how you cope with such glaring ignorance.

shahydbinaliyu:
Please enlighten me on what your own atheism means o

Can you do me a favour and post for me exactly how your dictionary defines atheism.. Just post it here please

shahydbinaliyu:
Atheist.... People who believe in science... Lol.. Chai.. Hell go full eh . .. Alhamdulillah am a Muslim

hahahahahahahaha can you imagine? someone who thinks the bolded is what atheism means..
Oga please stop disgracing yourself with your naive assertions. .I wont bother defining atheism to you. you clearly need to start reading. almajiri education is too feeble ..

You are a muslim, remember the christian hell awaits you, so see you in hell

shahydbinaliyu:
Bible is the real old testament.. While Qur'an is new testament.. That's why original Bible credits Qur'an

lmao then the jewish scriptures that sourced it all will be called what?

You see the christians make claims i find laughable but the islam claims are far more ridiculous . . .

You think that a book compiled about 1900 years ago (bible) is the old testament and the reworked version compiled 1600years (quran) is the new testament, you must be high on wet weed.
The quran did what we call "Copy and paste"

. why don't you get me a 2015 book and call it the new testament then i will listen to you.

shahydbinaliyu:
Real Bible is written in Greek and its translation is very different from the common Bible used now. Besides old and new testament contains thousands of contradiction.

This is what we get when you talk about something you don't really know.. You asserted the quran predicted people will believe Jesus is God, i corrected you by proving the belief in the Deity of Jesus started right from 2nd century. Now you jump into another thing all together.
Good the bible is riddled with glaring contradictions but one thing is also certain. [size=20] The quran is a reworked plagiarism of the bible [/size]
.

shahydbinaliyu:
Jesus never say he's God, he claimed there is one God and he's the servant (_prophet of God) he even said people should not worship him(jesus) that he's a servant of God just like us all.

I am not here to argue with you on jesus being god or not i dont buy any of that crap.. I only came to correct ur ridiculous assertion that the quran predicted the belief in the deity of jesus.

shahydbinaliyu:
Allah, Muhammad is in real bible...

Lmao... it's evident enough that muhammad copied the bible god (copied from canaanite pentheon tho) and reworked it into a universal god merging it with his native arabic deity of makkah. Their is no doubt that he succeed in inventing a different god all together..the three abrahamic religions have different god concepts hewn from one source. As for muhammed name being in the bible that is very laughable and ridiculous..

shahydbinaliyu:
And recently discovered dead sea scrolls credit Barnabas gospel..

Aaaaah yes the gnostic gospel of barnabas (didnt make it into the bible) The quran also copied from the gnostic work..

shahydbinaliyu:
Do lots of research on your religion.. Don't stay on what you are told in church...

Lmao i am an atheist, i dont buy any of the fairy tales .. I only quoted you to correct your misguided or should i say ignorant assertions. Next time try and be certain before letting something out in public.
now take the advice Research about your religion, and am sure you will dump that crap

shahydbinaliyu:
But I have read many article written by Christians and they against the trinity... Although it has been predicted in Qur'an that people will have such believe

Kindly visit shahydcharming.

And read the article on Trinity

The quran came 6000 years after christianity, the trinity doctrine started in the 2nd century AD, opposed by arianism that maintained jesus was not God.

Then in the 3rd century at the council of nicene, the council came to a unanimous agreement about the deity of jesus.. That Jesus is God..

Ok now how can your quran that came into existence in the 7th century predict what was in existence since 2nd century... its like saying Muhammed predicted Jesus. .

If you were born were they were born and taught what they were taught you would believe what they believe... it's called child indoctrination and thats the only thing that keeps religion, without child indoctrination religion would die off..

If ur parents waited till you are 21 to teach you that death and sin entered the world because two naked people ate an apple in a beautiful unexistent garden, You wouldn't have believed that crap.

mimijj:
Ds thread was just created for silly attention (I'm sure u ve ur hidden agenda), if you don't believe in the story WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? Why not talk about what you accept and believe in so people can understand you. D quoted plus Op

calm down and stop being so defensive. . . i dont reply this type of post. . if you cannot contribute and bring up an intelligent argument then am sorry.

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