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Misogynist2014:
9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault?
For who hath resisted his will? 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against
God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Johnydon 5:7 This is crap

Joshthefirst:
Kay17 is right, God is responsible for all life. But the bi me says life has been corrupted because of imperfection and sin. God didn't create killers or pathogens. He created everything good. But under the original failure of mans management creation has been corrupted.

I'm very sure this answers your question completely.

Nope this answer is very contradicting.. first you stated he created all life in the bolded and all life surely must include plasmodium.. then you turn around and say he didn't created killers or pathogens as in the second bolded (after saying he created everything)…

Why not just say once and for all, did he create everything (including the bad things).or did he not create everything.. Stop going in contradicting circles..

5solas:
Atheist right?
Bad news for you is that God cannot be frustrated. He will always achieve His purpose whether you like it or not, know it or not . That's the honest truth and for you trifling with His revealed will,there is a big pay day coming soon as you have heard afore.

WTF. . answer his question . . what dah heck is this nonsense above ? seems to me you dont even grasp what you are yapping about looks like frustration to me.. Answer his question please..

5solas:
How does that sound to you? "The things you do are not your own?"
The good or evil you do, you do ,as far as you are concerned freely, though you can't do otherwise as He foreknew and purposed.
Logically then you at once jump to the conclusion that man cannot be culpable for those sins. Sad truth (for you) is that the Bible says they are. I am telling you the Bible's position.

you see honestly the above makes no sense to me, please just make it simple stop the going around.. honestly i asked a simple question.[size=20] so everything you do, the sins you commit and the good things you do are actually not your own doing but is already willed to you by god [/size] whats this crap you yapped above..please give a simple answer

Macelliot:
You atheist can be funny atimes.

and you really got me wondering how that post is in anyway funny

5solas:
Yes.

so everything you do, the sins you commit and good things you do are actually not your own doing but is already willed for you by god?

5solas:
Man has a will. This will is subservient to God's.

So you mean to imply that what ever man does is already what god willed for the person right?

Alleluyah!!!! riots and protest rocks lagos!!! means end time things.. praise tha lord

Macelliot:
A.D - After Death.
B.C - Before Christ.
The "religion" still remains a problem to you particularly and everyone, but not the Faith.

that is the roman calendar (modernized chistian inspired.. borrowed from julius caesar by pope gregory. . . B.C and A.D was a christian concept am sure you know this)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

Macelliot:
Thanks 4 ur question.
Jesus never started any religion but gave his Disciples the mandate to do so....
There is different between Religion and Faith.
Christian religion and The Christian Faith.
Christ gave us the faith and not a religion.
FAITH= ONE.
RELIGION= Denominations, idealogies, beliefs due to races and cultures.
Tag: Johnydon22

lmao clearly you have not the slightest idea what faith is.
According to the dictionary;

Faith: A feeling, belief or conviction that something is true or real [size=20] without having empirical evidence

Every religion in this world is about faith which is not even a good thing as it shuts out reasoning and encourage believe in implausible things.

About Jesus starting a religion, very laughable.. Hewn from the bible it is easy to discern that Jesus and his disciples were jew (practises judaism) even after the death of jesus. the name christian was given to them in antioch as a sort of mocking (this is the biblical tale tho)

If you read about the first jerusalem council (also in acts) you will see where it is beinf argued whether for the gentiles to observe the law too (judaic law) . . bro the emergence of christianity was a slow process..

Macelliot:
Thrash.
Saying Jesus didn't exist is a falsehood from the evil-one.
I haven't heard anyone saying Muhammad does not exist. Is it because there are numerous Muslims that bears the name "Muhammad." why Christians doesn't or seldoms.
REMEMBER that the WORLD TIME and DATE is 100% attributed to Jesus Christ.(B.C and A.D)...
Jesus didn't formed any religion. Being an Anti-religion is at your own peril, but Being an Anti-Christ(Jesus), then that individual is trying to Justify EVIL.
Bless ur Heart, Johnny.

Lmao typical of a religious emotional sentiment.
We are talking history here, historical antiquities are silent on the character Jesus only early christian write ups most of them contradicting themselves are the onlh source we have.

Lmao AD is a roman inspired calendar sanctioned by the church, so it is built on a roman inspired work. Remember what we are using is Julian and Gregorian Calendar. the mayan, jewish and other calendars says a different story.

I have not claimed to be 100% that a character Jesus didnt exist (that name is pretty common in isreal) I am only stating the opinions of scholars on the matter. No single evidence or external source have suggested he did.

And what is this your anti-christ crap? bro am not anti-theist neither am i anti-christ, if stating the obvious is anti-your religion that is your problem not mine..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

nsiazu:
Do as the bible says and you shall will be given eternal life.

Do as the quran says and you will also be given eternal life with 72 beautiful bootilicious babes to spend it with

Misogynist2014:
Wait, let me read something on the case and I'll reply. You know sometimes argument can be boring, you just wish to settle it once and for all.

please no copy and paste cus i wont waste my time reading any copy and paste from any biased apologist website.. Just make your points as snappy as i make mine.. anyway you are free to go read anything you want..

Misogynist2014:
What if more than one person wrote the book of genesis? Isn't it written, 'by the words of two or three a case can be judged'? At least, Glory be to God Almighty that the both do not contradict. The law was the only thing confirmed given to Moses, while a lot of the other texts confirms the account of genesis and its genealogies. As per our argument, thanks be to AMEN that you concur you are mistaken. That to me is a great gentlemanly attribute.

Lolzz you definitely didnt get what i wrote..reconciling both accounts is like trying to reconcile Harry potter and Lord of the rings.. two different books.. The Contradiction is glaring, it is you that just choose to throw in your own fable in forgetting they are both different accounts by two different authors in two different times inspired by other more ancient creation myths. .. You don't really even argue these days. You more like apply more assumptions each passing day..

@bolded can you please point out or quote where i implied such, bro such straw man fallacy really pisses me off in an argument..

5solas:
No, you don't have the freewill. Man has no freewill. The belief that man does is a grave error.

Lol really? tell me again according to your own Correct analogy what man have?

gatiano:
don't put your complete picture(body frame) of you online. The last picture was ok with your children or neice or nephew.
everything we are is detailed in our body structure.

How does this relate to the topic? whether the dude is short or tall isn't the issue.
1st thing is his health, blood type and genotype.
2nd is the body physical structure which dictates 100% of his character.

Black people possess both polarities in their everything; from the lightest to the darkest, from the thinnest to the fattest, from the tallest to the shortest, from the prettiest to not so pretty, from tightly coiled hair to almost straight and we may sometimes produce a blue eyed or hazel. everything is present in each one of us regardless of our physical appearances.

So now you want to tell me the picture i should put online common dude this is me, i am proud of me and i only do me..

Misogynist2014:
That to me is a needed digression, arguments on who wrote Genesis can never be won, so hold it constant, all we are all about is the animals. Like I said, God planted a special garden, there was life outside the garden, God was not as wise as you are to leave the extremely vast forests desolate, so He was foolish enough to form other animals, which required only that He SPOKE.

Lol its not an argument bro i wont even argue with you on who wrote the genesis you just need to visit here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_narrative and read to know all you need, wikipedia is one of the best encyclopedia in the world if not the best... Bible and historical scholars reached that consensus not me

Tho it is night 10:38pm, i took the trouble of snapping a picture of the Explanation as given by the New Jerusalem bible.. now read it and read the wikipedia encyclopedia and you will see its no argument my bro..

So about reconcilling it, am not sure you would want to reconcile harry potter with lord of the rings..

Misogynist2014:
God planted a Garden out of the forests after creating man Gen 2:8, put man there and formed the replica of the animals He had formed, took it to man, who obviously could communicate with him for naming. Where is the contradiction?

Lol and this explanation is according to who? you?
so he started all over making the animals to put in eden..

Now to be clear Both accounts are from two different authors.. the account in chapter is written by a scribe bible scholars call the yahweist because of his usage of "yahweh adonai" (lord God ) in his texts and his draft is much older than the first account in chapter one
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The chapter oneaccount was written by a scribe scholars identify as the Priestly author, and is a more younger account than the chapter 2 account.
and it borrows heavily from the mesopotamian creation myth and his style of writing is different and his usage of "elohim" when referring to yahweh..

You all should always endevour to know more about the bible before trying so desperately to reconcile what you don't fully grasp..

RexBrita:
@Johnydon22

There is almost some sort of stigma attached to atheism by the religious in Africa (no, not just African). But deeper analysis of the thought processes involved on both sides will reveal we all chase after the same thing and do the same thing but dressed differently. So forget the window dressing.

Atheists are our brothers. We should mean you no wrong. And same goes for you guys to theists. The fights really ain't necessary.

Some atheists are better born-agains. And vice versa.
Just look deeper.

What is that same thing we are chasing after please?

and what do you mean by born-again you got me lost there

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stardragon:
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see me oooo

ever wonder how it is that when yahweh was with the ancient jews in the desert he behaved like them, when he fell into the hands of romans he became civilized.. why?? people's ideas change, so does the god they worship because people speak, fight and say what they want to be the mind of their god or its attributes.. lmoa...

Misogynist2014:
You certainly haven't opened a Bible you entire life. Its like a film in which me and my sister made fun of a lady for saying 'mans' only for it to be correct. This is ironically one of the verses that make me accept Bible as divine inspiration.

Me? . . . . **sighs** Owk since you asserted i have never opened a bible, very good lets leave it that way to avoid more assumptions and straw man fallacy

nsiazu:
My bro, its very easy. You too can see JESUS CHRIST if you follow this scripture (Luke 11:9-10 ) And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

that is it **sighs** why am i not surprised..

nsiazu:
It looks like Him but no one knows. But I can tell you that I've seen JESUS before.

It looks like him? if that thing looks like ur jesus.. **sighs** then his looks definitely is not impressive..

You have seen jesus? now this is interesting.. please tell me how ?

Misogynist2014:
Don't mind him. O ye of little faith, who seek after a sign!

lmao very funny.. Soon he will be eating bread and makes out a face in it. he will rush to nairaland and open a thread and be like "Omg Jesus appeared to me today, here look at it on my bread.. End time things"

nsiazu:
Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

lmao.. ..so all this thing weh u deh do now na for people to agree say jesus face appear there ba?
first u dont even know what jesus looks like buh u are want so much to believe that some landmark that you can make out a face in it is jesus..

Lol ok ok we don agree.. na jesus abeg.. free person ..

gatiano:
You are osseous; tall and bony, thus you are a rigid kind of a person. You never forgive but you can be a friend forever, your friendship means a lot to you and if they wronged you, it will be very difficult to forgive them.
You manage money well, thus you can be a good banker or financer.
Your children are in trouble, in a good way, they will only get what they deserve or need, they should forget wants.
you can worth 1 trillion dollars, but you won't give then to you children.
sice you are rigid, it is hard to corrupt you so a policeman can also be a good job.
You don't like noice, you work good when you are left alone and you need a wide space. landscaper is also a good profession that you would like. extremely organised and clean
We can't be close friends, because you would bore me to death.

am i wrong so far?

but also, you may not be osseous all through.

With this knowledge, one can choose for oneself the best compatible partner.

lol... nawa ooo . . . oga abeg no use me do am.. biko..